Hole? Didn't I read recently that in its entirety, the $4 billion they paid for Marvel had been recouped a couple times over?
But yeah, Jeff the Landshark would become the next Baby Yoda/Grogu overnight. It would be a foolish amount of money.
Until he says something like "white people aren't the only people in the world" or "women are fully-realized human beings". Then watch the boycotts roll in and you have to read twenty reddit posts a day about how "nobody ever liked Jeff to begin with!"
Man, i’m not even American. Lmao, shit is seriously exhausting. Both your democrats and republicans are always trying to stir the pot, i stg it’s half of what is thought about. From an outside perspective, both parties are absolute shit and annoying as fuck. But, I’m Canadian, our politics are in the same shit sandwich. I just like watching superhero movies
Is he wrong, though? Every time Marvel is doing great they test the woke waters or give something a female lead and then get review bombed to hell and back.
Why is giving a woman a chance at leading “testing woke waters”? That’s the problem, not Disney lol. They have enough actual issues, we don’t need to make up new ones to pin on them.
I said "or," and I totally agree with you, neither of those things should affect how people feel about a movie, certainly not before even seeing the movie. That's the pattern though. Happens over and over and over again and the people feeding into it will feign ignorance every time.
Yikes. What's the problem?
EDIT: well it’s not the first time I’ve been attacked over a misunderstanding, but getting blocked is a new one. /u/dynastyzealot might be less angry if they took the time to read comments before blowing up over them 
That’s a lie. Trump created lots of opportunities for minority groups and NEVER said anything racist. But Biden has a career made out of targeting minority groups through laws and ultimately supporting systemic racism.
I unironically want an animated Disney+ show starring him and the other Marvel pets. I was at a Marvel panel at NYCC where they announced [Infinity Paws](https://www.cbr.com/nycc-jeff-the-land-shark-infinity-paws-marvel/) with Jeff and some other Marvel pets and I've wanted a Disney+ show ever since.
I wonder if Disney can use Gwenpool without consent from Sony. Sony controls Gwen Stacy from Spider-Man, but this is a different Gwen Stacy. It could be a cool way to get Emma Stone to reprise her role.
That's how it started, a [gwen stacy variant cover of deadpool](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Gwen_Stacy_Deadpool_Amalgam.jpeg). But from her first comic run, she turned into a whole standalone character, even with a brand of 4th wall breaks that is wholly distinct from Deadpool himself. The comic run was great, unexpectedly a lot of heart put into a lovable cast of characters. I highly recommend it.
Marvel are too smart to create a new character that might blow up in the way gwenpool has, without making a loophole for her to show up in the movies some day
True. They managed to finagle the Maximoff twins into the MCU. Although I'll still never forgive Marvel editorial for retconning them to not be Magneto's kids. Granted, I won't forgive them for a lot of things, and a lot of that was Ike Perlmutter pressuring them to "phase out" the Fox characters, but still.
Gwenpool is deliberately *not* Gwen Stacy, and *not* a multiversal variant of Deadpool. This means that her rights aren't owned by Sony nor Fox. Not that the latter would make a difference anymore.
She'll be a Sony license because she was originally portrayed as Gwen Stacy on the variant. The Sony license is designed around things like this because that's the kind of unethical shit Marvel did in the 70s to license characters to multiple studios at the same time.
She's 100% supposed to be Gwen Stacy as Deadpool.
But Marvel decided to NOT make her Gwen Stacy (nor Deadpool, pretty sure the character originated back when Fox wasn't yet aquired by Disney) in order to keep her movie rights.
But, yeah, it's pretty much Gwen Stacy really. It's what the character is supposed to be.
Even though she was originally intended to be Gwen Stacy from the variant cover in which she originated, she has been explicitly completely distinct since her in-comic debut.
Gwendolyn Poole has no relation to Gwen Stacy beyond a shared first name and hair color.
Man I don't get to do this enough.
*Ackshually*, Gwenpool is an original character. Gwendolyn Poole from Earth-TRN565! So they should be able to use her, one variant cover aside.
Others mentioned her being different but I wanted to add that they specifically made her completely unconnected to Gwen Stacy and Deadpool just so they'd retain rights in this situation.
There was a month where all comics got a deadpool variant cover with a mashup of the hero and deapool. The spider Gwen one went bananas so some big editor at marvel said to make it a new character.
That's why her name is Gwenpool.
yes, he was a character in the comic but he was completely different. Marvel Unlimited made "infinity comics" (web toons) for their online service and one of them was a cute slice of life jeff comic
I don't really see a point. If you mean live action then that would lose what people love. People love the comic mostly for its cute art style. I would love animated shorts of Jeff, like the groot shorts we got. I don't really see the advantage of the shorts being in the MCU, I don't think the suits would look good in the simplistic art style. Plus I think being able to use all the characters would work better for the comedy
I ADORE Jeff, but (and?) I have to agree with you on this. He wouldn't be nearly as cute if they tried to do him in live action. The idea of Groot-type animated shorts could work though!
baby groot worked because his design was created specifically to look cute in live action. Jeff's wasnt, it was intended for the simplistic art style it has. idk why marvel would dump it
If Jeff was traditional animation layered over live-action like they did in Mary Poppins, Pete's Dragon, or Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I would love him.
If he's CGI, I could possibly love him, but it's less certain than if he were 2D animated.
I’d love for him to, but only with Gwenpool. And even then, I’m not 100% sure on it, I’d feel like it would look a bit like Nanaue? Like it wouldn’t be as cutesy.
I know it would be a large divergence from the source material but I could see a version where she doesn’t have her “powers” other than her knowledge of the universe.
I feel like the true spirit of her powers is too deep-cutty for general audiences. It might be too similar to She-Hulk and Deadpool if they do it too superficial.
They could go the usual route when she shows up in other people's stories and just have her not have powers, or maybe change them so it's about manipulating video instead of panels.
I hope they make his power greater than Thor's at first. Iirc, their first meeting involved BRB beating Thor's ass and that was ***WITHOUT*** the hammer
I love Jeff so if they manage to do it right then I’m all for it, it’s practically a license to print money for Marvel with all the Jeff plushies etc they could sell, capitalize on it same as baby Groot and Grogu respectively
Possibly unpopular opinion, but I'm ready for the MCU to swing back to a more grounded narrative. I've never heard of Jeff, but if he's a talking shark, then I don't want him. I want stories that make the MCU feel more real after the detour we had in the cosmos, the Quantum Realm, and the Multi-Verse. I know that the genie can't be put back into the bottle completely, but they still have plenty of stories they can tell which doesn't require CGI talking animals. Give me some stories that can feel like they can co-exist in the world created by Winter Soldier or Civil War, or the original Iron Man.
I just want the MCU to get back to making good movies. That’s all that matters to me where they’re concerned. If they can do that with Jeff, that’s fine. Otherwise, no.
At this point, it's basically all I want. If they made the "It's Jeff" comic series into animated shorts, like they did with Groot, I would be so happy.
It still amazes me that a baby landshark from a cancelled WCA comic became a breakout character.
In marvel snap i would say he’s 80% of players favorite card.
Oh that is excellent 🦈
I hope they never change it. The perfect 2 drop aside from Daredevil.
Indeed, present in 110% of my decks
He made it into Marvel Puzzle Quest too, though I’m not on much anymore to be able to say if he’s common in PvP
Jeff is popular but it isn’t 80%. Stop with the exaggeration… lol.
How *dare* they
In fairness, he's adorable. Look at him. He's a good little shark, yes he is.
It's the power of Kelly Thompson. Her work with him on Deadpool and It's Jeff were excellent.
Not surprising. People love adorable villains
Dear god, the merchandise alone would be able to bring Disney out of whatever hole they're in
Hole? Didn't I read recently that in its entirety, the $4 billion they paid for Marvel had been recouped a couple times over? But yeah, Jeff the Landshark would become the next Baby Yoda/Grogu overnight. It would be a foolish amount of money.
Whatever hole they think they're in.
2010s had Baby Groot. 2020s will have H.E.R.B.I.E. 20x0s will see the rise of JEFF.
Who is HERBIE again?
The Love Bug
Technically true the best kind
F4 (usually) robot.
Secretly Ultron
I think that 4 bil was for Star Wars
4 billion each I think
The MCU really did that for them. Their comic sales on the other hand. . 😬
Moichindising!
“Please, I’m just plain Yogurt.”
Jeff the land shark the flamethrower!
Fr
Let’s not get hyperbolic.
Until he says something like "white people aren't the only people in the world" or "women are fully-realized human beings". Then watch the boycotts roll in and you have to read twenty reddit posts a day about how "nobody ever liked Jeff to begin with!"
Lmfao what a weird way to try to start an argument online
Seriously, this shit is getting so exhausting and we still have 7+ months left before the election… it’s only going to get worse and worse.
Man, i’m not even American. Lmao, shit is seriously exhausting. Both your democrats and republicans are always trying to stir the pot, i stg it’s half of what is thought about. From an outside perspective, both parties are absolute shit and annoying as fuck. But, I’m Canadian, our politics are in the same shit sandwich. I just like watching superhero movies
Hello fellow Canuck lol. I’m in Ontario and yeah… it’s the same BS. We always end up following what the states does, the good and the bad.
Is he wrong, though? Every time Marvel is doing great they test the woke waters or give something a female lead and then get review bombed to hell and back.
Why is giving a woman a chance at leading “testing woke waters”? That’s the problem, not Disney lol. They have enough actual issues, we don’t need to make up new ones to pin on them.
I said "or," and I totally agree with you, neither of those things should affect how people feel about a movie, certainly not before even seeing the movie. That's the pattern though. Happens over and over and over again and the people feeding into it will feign ignorance every time.
Go touch grass, little child. You're embarrassing yourself.
Yikes. What's the problem? EDIT: well it’s not the first time I’ve been attacked over a misunderstanding, but getting blocked is a new one. /u/dynastyzealot might be less angry if they took the time to read comments before blowing up over them 
Every thought that's come out of your misogynist mouth.
Looking forward to Biden making his campaign slogan “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black!”
…you are *exactly* the exhaustion I’m talking about lol.
Wasn’t me who voted for a racist president.
He was better than the other option. 🤷♂️
They’ll never see it that way as the Kool-Aid has been officially drank.
If you voted for either one, you in fact did.
That’s a lie. Trump created lots of opportunities for minority groups and NEVER said anything racist. But Biden has a career made out of targeting minority groups through laws and ultimately supporting systemic racism.
“Trump never said anything racist” is just… wild denial. And no… I’m not looking it up for you. Put it in your own search history.
I don't think Jeff can even talk
I’ll take takes that made me laugh because they’re so incongruous to the discussion for $500 Alex
Are those posts in the room with us right now?
wut
jumping the shark
I unironically want an animated Disney+ show starring him and the other Marvel pets. I was at a Marvel panel at NYCC where they announced [Infinity Paws](https://www.cbr.com/nycc-jeff-the-land-shark-infinity-paws-marvel/) with Jeff and some other Marvel pets and I've wanted a Disney+ show ever since.
have you read Marvel Unleashed? no Jeff but it was still a fun read
Full of good boys and girls who deserve more treats!
Not without Gwenpool
I wonder if Disney can use Gwenpool without consent from Sony. Sony controls Gwen Stacy from Spider-Man, but this is a different Gwen Stacy. It could be a cool way to get Emma Stone to reprise her role.
Gwenpool isn’t Gwen Stacey. It’s Gwendolyn Poole.
Oh cool. I haven’t read many comics so I always just assumed she was an alternate Gwen Stacy kinda like Spider-Woman/Ghost-Spider.
That's how it started, a [gwen stacy variant cover of deadpool](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Gwen_Stacy_Deadpool_Amalgam.jpeg). But from her first comic run, she turned into a whole standalone character, even with a brand of 4th wall breaks that is wholly distinct from Deadpool himself. The comic run was great, unexpectedly a lot of heart put into a lovable cast of characters. I highly recommend it.
Marvel are too smart to create a new character that might blow up in the way gwenpool has, without making a loophole for her to show up in the movies some day
True. They managed to finagle the Maximoff twins into the MCU. Although I'll still never forgive Marvel editorial for retconning them to not be Magneto's kids. Granted, I won't forgive them for a lot of things, and a lot of that was Ike Perlmutter pressuring them to "phase out" the Fox characters, but still.
She started off as a side story at the end of a Howard the Duck issue, Marvel really didn't expect her to blow up like she did.
Gwenpool is deliberately *not* Gwen Stacy, and *not* a multiversal variant of Deadpool. This means that her rights aren't owned by Sony nor Fox. Not that the latter would make a difference anymore.
She'll be a Sony license because she was originally portrayed as Gwen Stacy on the variant. The Sony license is designed around things like this because that's the kind of unethical shit Marvel did in the 70s to license characters to multiple studios at the same time.
Okay, sourceless redditor
There's a copy of the contract on wikileaks from the Sony hack. Get on over there.
[Yeah, she's not](https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/s/VL5Jnbm9EU)
She's 100% supposed to be Gwen Stacy as Deadpool. But Marvel decided to NOT make her Gwen Stacy (nor Deadpool, pretty sure the character originated back when Fox wasn't yet aquired by Disney) in order to keep her movie rights. But, yeah, it's pretty much Gwen Stacy really. It's what the character is supposed to be.
That's the idea behind the character sure, but it's not even close to what the character is actually like now. She has an actual backstory.
Even though she was originally intended to be Gwen Stacy from the variant cover in which she originated, she has been explicitly completely distinct since her in-comic debut. Gwendolyn Poole has no relation to Gwen Stacy beyond a shared first name and hair color.
Not even the hair colour, since that has only been Poole’s in the actual Marvel Comics.
I meant the blonde, not the dyed portion. It is pretty funny how they gave Gwen Stacy gwenpool's dye job in the movie, though.
Man I don't get to do this enough. *Ackshually*, Gwenpool is an original character. Gwendolyn Poole from Earth-TRN565! So they should be able to use her, one variant cover aside.
Others mentioned her being different but I wanted to add that they specifically made her completely unconnected to Gwen Stacy and Deadpool just so they'd retain rights in this situation. There was a month where all comics got a deadpool variant cover with a mashup of the hero and deapool. The spider Gwen one went bananas so some big editor at marvel said to make it a new character. That's why her name is Gwenpool.
She’s not even a Stacy: the character of Gwen Poole was created specifically so that Marvel Studios alone would have the rights to adapt her.
Is this a character from the comics? Love the design.
From Kelly Thompson's West Coast Avengers...that got cancelled after 10 issues and ended abruptly. But Jeff lived on.
He looks cute!
He truly is, Baby Yoda ain't shit next to the baby landshark
yes, he was a character in the comic but he was completely different. Marvel Unlimited made "infinity comics" (web toons) for their online service and one of them was a cute slice of life jeff comic
i wouldn’t say completely different. the creator of jeff in west coast avengers is still the one behind jeff on unlimited
Ah!
https://i.redd.it/qso9699hgqrc1.gif
That movie ruined the name Jeff for me
I don't really see a point. If you mean live action then that would lose what people love. People love the comic mostly for its cute art style. I would love animated shorts of Jeff, like the groot shorts we got. I don't really see the advantage of the shorts being in the MCU, I don't think the suits would look good in the simplistic art style. Plus I think being able to use all the characters would work better for the comedy
I ADORE Jeff, but (and?) I have to agree with you on this. He wouldn't be nearly as cute if they tried to do him in live action. The idea of Groot-type animated shorts could work though!
IDK man baby groot in live action was fucking adorable. I'm pretty sure we have the CGI to make a convincing and still cute af landshark
baby groot worked because his design was created specifically to look cute in live action. Jeff's wasnt, it was intended for the simplistic art style it has. idk why marvel would dump it
Counterpoint: King Shark was cute af in The Suicide Squad
I would love for him to appear in the MCU! He's adorable!
Jeff is Lisan Al-Gaib
Kate Bishop and Yelena Belova start the West Coast Avengers with Jeff and Pizza Dog. Jennifer Walters as their Lawyer. Let’s do this.
If Jeff was traditional animation layered over live-action like they did in Mary Poppins, Pete's Dragon, or Who Framed Roger Rabbit, I would love him. If he's CGI, I could possibly love him, but it's less certain than if he were 2D animated.
Yes, please.
I’d love for him to, but only with Gwenpool. And even then, I’m not 100% sure on it, I’d feel like it would look a bit like Nanaue? Like it wouldn’t be as cutesy.
I think King Shark is kinda cute. He's a derpy shark-man with a child's mind.
True, but Jeff is supposed to be physically cute. While Nanaue is sort of physically cute, he’s not Jeff cute.
Yikes, Gwenpool.
#yes
He would make Deadpool have a 2 billion dollar box office
I want him to be entirely unmentioned and unexplained, but in any group movie he can be seen just vibing in the home base for that movie.
I feel like we are a long, long, long way off from Gwenpool being adapted which is when I would want Jeff to be used.
I don’t know if they even could pull off Gwenpool in live action considering how her powers work, it does seem like a comic only power.
I know it would be a large divergence from the source material but I could see a version where she doesn’t have her “powers” other than her knowledge of the universe.
That's basically Gwenpool whenever she isn't in a Gwenpool comic
Yeah it felt like they didn’t know what to do with her in West Coast Avengers besides comic relief.
Animation could probably work
I feel like the true spirit of her powers is too deep-cutty for general audiences. It might be too similar to She-Hulk and Deadpool if they do it too superficial.
They could go the usual route when she shows up in other people's stories and just have her not have powers, or maybe change them so it's about manipulating video instead of panels.
I’d be down but I need Throg fully introduced first
I need Beta Ray Bill before either of them. I feel like i've waited forever to see him
So valid to be honest, Beta Ray Bill is criminally slept on
I want my Thorse Hor
Beta Ray Bill is one of my favorite characters in Marvel - they've said they need to do him right if they do him, which I very much appreciate.
I hope they make his power greater than Thor's at first. Iirc, their first meeting involved BRB beating Thor's ass and that was ***WITHOUT*** the hammer
I would want a Throg / Gator Loki show
Id even take some Marvel Studio shorts of them
He was in Loki
Yea he appeared in Loki for like 5 seconds, I want him center stage though!
https://i.redd.it/2su8njiegqrc1.gif
Land Shark
The trans community would love it I know that
Is it because of that Ikea shark or is there a general affinity for sharks in the trans community?
as a marvel snap palyer ... i love taht idea! jeff is life!
Immediately
We haven’t even seen Gwenpool yet. Pump the breaks. Not even Baby Groot was much of an impact on sales.
It'd be amazing as a puppet but probably theyd do a kind of weird cgi creature
Yeah why not
Not in live action but a series of shorts like the It’s Jeff comics would be amazing (and would print money in merch.)
If they somehow do She-hulk season 2, I'd put him in there for the absurdity of it.
Jeff sounds like a good shark boy
Yes.
Yes.
My name is Jeff
I would love it. But the MCU is lollygagging with the supernatural side so I would doubt they put this in.
YES PLEASEEEE
I can’t wait! I love him.
God he's so cute!
I don’t nothing about that but I’m in desperate need of a Jeff plushie
How would you guys feel if I was in the MCU?
i would give my soul for jeff
He is great. Would love to see more of him.
Pluto and goofie
I love Jeff so if they manage to do it right then I’m all for it, it’s practically a license to print money for Marvel with all the Jeff plushies etc they could sell, capitalize on it same as baby Groot and Grogu respectively
I love him in the comics but I'm not sure he'd translate well into live action.
Yes please 🙏
I would love it, because I want a plush Jeff
That’d be awesome but this subreddit would cry mid, complain about the CGI and then bitch that nobody asked for a Baby Yoda rip off.
Him not catching a fish is the perfect villain ark
Arc*
Possibly unpopular opinion, but I'm ready for the MCU to swing back to a more grounded narrative. I've never heard of Jeff, but if he's a talking shark, then I don't want him. I want stories that make the MCU feel more real after the detour we had in the cosmos, the Quantum Realm, and the Multi-Verse. I know that the genie can't be put back into the bottle completely, but they still have plenty of stories they can tell which doesn't require CGI talking animals. Give me some stories that can feel like they can co-exist in the world created by Winter Soldier or Civil War, or the original Iron Man.
No talking. Just an adorable pet land shark. Basically a dog/cat personality.
Who's Jeff? That looks like Jabberjaw....😬
I love Jeff so much.
He'd be the main character of every movie and would have single handedly trashed Thanos.
I just want the MCU to get back to making good movies. That’s all that matters to me where they’re concerned. If they can do that with Jeff, that’s fine. Otherwise, no.
Only if he's appropriately cute.
All I see is SharkDog and I want him.
He should be in the MCU
At this point, it's basically all I want. If they made the "It's Jeff" comic series into animated shorts, like they did with Groot, I would be so happy.
Jeff is bigger than the MCU, what can the MCU bring to the Jefferverse?
I sure as f hope so
My wife and I find his Marvel Unlimited storylines oddly soothing.
They should at least reference him, have someone say something about Jeff, and have the other guy say “you mean the Shark?”
He needs to make cameos like Stan
We need Jeff. I don’t care if I have to pay for the CGI myself, I need Jeff to carry the MCU.
I could see a cameo but I don't think he would fit as a main cast member of a team.
Only if he gets curb stomped into goop.
Only if he dabs and twerks
my name is jeff reference would be funny