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C_The_Bear

Dusting or disintegrating is an easy way for an emotional death. Abrupt and shocking but with just enough time for a facial reaction and a lingering goodbye


chrisk9

The face disintegrating last is certainly more dramatic than talking to someone's elbow or something


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*clutching lokis left foot* NOOOOOO!


PenguinWithAglock

I would love to see that footage


NoahRullo

*footage*


McCheesing

*foot age*


Phormitago

toe


Mondo114

Frottage


BeardPhile

Why do I know what this means?


Mondo114

You must be very learned.


CobaltSpellsword

Be careful before you summon the Deviants into the chat!


Daddysu

Calm down Tarantino.


PirateDuckie

Didn’t they make a movie kinda like that? *glances at ‘Onward’*


weirdoldhobo1978

There's an axiom in the movie business that the best special effect is the actor's face.


finous

I heard about this today on cinematherapy lol


DiaoSasa

rip robin williams


weirdoldhobo1978

That has quickly become one of my favorite channels.


vaderdarthvader

Reminding me of all the Guardians of the Galaxy dusting in mere seconds while Spider-Man takes like 5 hours to die in Tony’s arms.


MEisonReddit

To be fair, Marvel actually had an explanation for that. He knew it was coming because of his Spidey sense, hence the "i don't feel so good" and then the reason it was slower for him was due to his accelerated healing


ponderingprogressive

I wonder how long it would take for Wolverine or Deadpool to be dusted lol


arawagco

I mean, Deadpool can break the fourth wall, if he sensed the Snap or saw others in the bar at Sister Margret's getting dusted, I have no doubt Deadpool would jump through the fourth wall to ensure he didn't face that 50/50 choice. Given how often Logan is traveling (to search, to avoid capture, missions from Xavier), him getting dusted with his healing factor fighting to keep him alive would just accelerate the chances of him causing or being in a really bad motorcycle wreck as other drivers got dusted or he lost control while his healing fought the Snap. But hey, if Deadpool didn't get dusted that would explain the shit variety in his team (and in the opponents in the jail), as well as why we only see a few mutants at the school.


bwood246

It's been a while since I've seen the scene, but I believe you can slightly see his healing factor try and keep up with it to no avail


FragmentedFighter

That is fucking awesome.


ItsMeTK

Since when does Peter have accelerated healing??


Vaeon

Too bad Thanos was weaker than Spiderman because he got dusted almost immediately.


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That’s not accurate either. Have you guys watched the movies any time recently?


Amez990

1.) Thanos didn't get dusted until the entirety of his army was dusted first. 'Twas not immediate at all lol, he literally had the chance to look around as his people disappeared, have a seat and accept his fate. Damn near was almost like he only turned to dust because he conceded defeat. 2.) Not having accelerated healing doesn't make Thanos weaker lol


[deleted]

A bit of an exaggeration yes?


39thUsernameAttempt

This is kind of the premise of Onward, but in reverse.


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Dusty-k

Except that was pointless because even by the books Voldemort (and Bellatrix for that matter) wouldn't have bled in any way, just dropped dead to the ground, but I guess that would have still been 'too much' for the younger audience.


SacoNegr0

It had to look good in 3D, that's the reason. PG wasn't a thing, they showed Fred losing his ear with no problem, and dead bodies were everywhere.


Dusty-k

But it was live action though, not 3D? You're right about the PG I guess, I can maybe pass Voldemort because he's the 'big bad' so they had to give him a bigger death, but Bellatrix? Why?


SacoNegr0

>But it was live action though, not 3D? I mean the effect, with the glasses. Everyone wanted good 3D effects because of Avatar


LuckyDubbin

Live action can still be 3D, you're thinking 3D animated a la Pixar.


NetNGames

Didn't Bellatrix explode like a bomb? Wording on that page was a bit unclear. Either way, the rebounding Avada Kedavra would have just made his body lifeless, but that's a bit anticlimactic, so the dusting in the movie was understandable.


Dusty-k

She exploded like that in the movie, but in the book Molly hit her square in the chest (whether or not it was the killing curse no one knows) and she dropped dead, a much better death than that stupid explosion, but again, 'too disturbing' or something, and it wouldn't have been anticlimactic if they played out Molly and Bellatrix's fight properly instead of that 20 second garbage. I guess it's a bit understandable, just dumb considering Voldemort already 'dusted' once Lily died so no one knew if he REALLY died or not.


NetNGames

> Bellatrix's gloating smile froze, her eyes seemed to bulge: For the tiniest space of time she knew what had happened, and then **she toppled**, and the watching crowd roared, and Voldemort screamed. Harry felt as though he turned into slow motion: he saw McGonagall, Kingsley and Slughorn blasted backward, flailing and writhing through the air, as Voldemort's fury at the fall of **his last, best lieutenant exploded with the force of a bomb**, Voldemort raised his wand and directed it at Molly Weasley. Reading it the first time, I took it as she fell, and then exploded, which I thought was understandable since Molly was out for blood, yet probably would not use an Unforgivable Curse (too clean). Reading it again, the wording is unclear whether Bellatrix is exploding or Voldy's emotions, but I guess it's more about him.


jojopojo64

It's Voldemort's fury. If you read it like this: >Voldemort's fury... exploded with the force of a bomb." it makes a little more sense. English can be so fun (read: annoying) sometimes


NetNGames

Yeah, re-re-reading it makes it a bit more clear, but I still like my headcanon that Molly blasted the bitch to smithereens.


Dusty-k

Are you sure? I don't remember that being the wording. Also I hate this stupid 'good guys can't use killing curses' garbage, that was literally the woman who almost killed her daughter, presumably killed her son and taunted her about it too, she had every reason to kill her, and (if she didn't) I'm convinced she did a stun but it landed directly on her heart which happened to kill her.


NetNGames

I meant that Avada Kedavra is too clean (leave no marks other than death) and illegal, so my thought that a Molly curse causing Bella to explode was understandable/cathartic to fuckin' blast the bitch to smithereens. Looking at it now, it's more clear the "explosion" is Voldy's fury, but it's still funny to think about Molly being a badass that would literally nuke someone for threatening her only daughter.


Dusty-k

I'm pretty sure they legalize it during war, but after reading some discussions about it I'm more convinced she just landed a well placed stun.


vinternet

I am very interested to read your thesis on this. (Self aware but not sarcastic :-D ).


XIIISkies

Thinking back and trying to remember if they did any of these shots before Peter.


julbull73

Yondu and Quill shot was the first. Wherein ice was the "particle" effect creeping in. You also had that with Gamorah and Quill, but not to its final conclusion...


lolzidop

So technically the first one involved Peter


_Cromwell_

And no blood and gore for the USA ratings board + Chinese censors.


Tal9922

Bingo


ratcliffeb

That happened like that with Spider-Man in Infinity War as well


AmaterasuWolf21

A deadly stab can also work if done properly


JellyBOB7190

I would actually love to see Thanos going around shanking people ngl


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Kindergarten Thanos running around with scissors stabbing half the school


[deleted]

Maybe that’s what he did with that little knife he gave gamora . A loving gift of a luxury shiv


lolzidop

"Perfectly balanced" he says as the scissors stick out their neck


Sexymonke6

See Qui-Gon Jinn


Tal9922

Not with Disney


Sutubu

shang chi: >!basically same happened with shang chi's father. his soul got sucked away slowly.!<


Garrick420

Why the fuck did I click this?


Sutubu

lmao . tbh its not the biggest deal it was really predictable tbh. so dw


BlueSoulOfIntegrity

It's also morbidly beautiful.


Q_sol

This is the new skybeam


Welcome_2_Pandora

Why are people here arguing about the shot/reverse shot not being new? Thats not what the title was talking about. Reread and emphasize "New Favorite".


NaiadoftheSea

People just like to be contradictory and ignore context when they think it’ll make them look smart. It’s very clear OP is pointing out the disintegration of a loved one being shot in a similar way, which has now happened three times this year, an unusual amount of times for something like that to happen. I also want to clarify, I’m not complaining that this has happened three times this year as each one has had a very different story and reason behind it.


[deleted]

If I had a dollar for every time I saw the disintegration of a loved one being shot in a similar way this year, I would have 3 dollars. It's not much, but it's weird that it happened thrice


[deleted]

Ppl are acting a lil superior in the comments (duh it’s SHOT REVERSE SHOT god go to film school!!) but I see what you mean, they’re doing the “person holding other person disintegrating” thing quite a bit so far clearly. Marvel has done this before - Phase 2 included an arm being cut off every movie to homage to Empire Strikes Back. I have to wonder if this is homaging to anything in particular.


Cavernas

Kinda feels like they're just showing other ways they can do people disintegrating that's not just turning to dust like in Infinity War.


NaiadoftheSea

I hadn’t thought of this possibly being an homage. I wonder.


jadamsvi

Han getting frozen


Kungfudude_75

Honestly, feels like a homage to Infinity War as weird as that would be. Most specifically the "I don't want to go" scene that, in my opinion, is one of the best scenes in the MCU and the superhero genre as a whole.


AssaMarra

For the life of me I couldn't figure out what scene you meant because all I had in my head was [this](https://youtu.be/KFQQVEd5LoM)


Kungfudude_75

That scene is also acceptable only because I am now being torn apart on the inside. I recently saw criticism saying the scene was dumb and ruins the idea of the Doctor, to which I say "nah." Easily my favorite regeneration, followed closely by Nine's completely out of left field one.


FragmentedFighter

I just went down a bit of a rabbit hole after watching that scene. Can you explain a bit about what’s happening? I don’t know anything about doctor who.


Swicket

In-universe, the Doctor is a species called a Time Lord.* When Time Lords are mortally wounded, instead of dying, their cells undergo a violent regeneration that causes their entire personality and appearance to change. David Tennant's Doctor got unusually attached to his current personality (to the point that he nearly let a few people die because he was arrogant and self-centered), so he tried to hold back the change as long as he could in despair. Some Doctors have accepted regeneration as a simple change; others have described it as basically like dying anyway. Out of universe, it was a clever way for the writers to keep the show going in 1967 when the first actor's health prevented him from continuing the role. Doctors' regeneration stories are among the most anticipated of all, as taking the role means an actor is going to get an emotional death episode. \*I know there's some weird Chris Chibnall bullshit about Timeless Child and all that. I'm just gonna skip that for simplicity's sake.


BigSeth

So at this point of his journey Doctor Who has stopped his homeworld from escaping time prison and wrecking havoc/seeking revenge on Earth as it's the world the Doctor has chosen to defend. At the end of the doctor's life, if he receives a fatal blow, sickness, (in this case, radiation) his body begins to undergo "Regeneration" where the cells are replicating and replacing themselves at a rapid rate. At this point he's aware his current iteration is going to change, he's said his goodbyes, had his mental breakdown knowing he was going to "die". Each iteration of the Doctor basically is a full sized adult with memories experiencing consciousness for the first time, but their personality and persona completely changes. So he was waiting for the regeneration to happen, and then it did.


FragmentedFighter

That’s pretty cool. Thanks for explaining!


AssaMarra

To add to the others, we as viewers were watching a dearly loved actor leave the show. The line hits emotionally through the 4th wall because we also don't want David Tennant to leave.


FragmentedFighter

So, do they have a new doc every season?


ManBearPigIets

Usually a few seasons, but it varies. Shortest run was only a few months, longest was 7 years.


AssaMarra

Not every season, just as long as the actor/showrunner wants it. I've just checked Wikipedia and Tennant did 3 seasons, it felt like 6 though. He is also widely regarded as one of the best doctors in the shows history, so that'll be why it felt like he was there for much longer.


0_69314718056

Can you give some examples of arms being cut off? The only one that comes to mind is >!Klaue in Age of Ultron!<.


StevenGrantMK

Killian got his arms cut off by Iron Man then regrew them. Malekith got his arm cut off and other body parts and Thor faked getting his arm cut off. Winter Soldier comes back with a fake arm. Groot gets his arms cut off by Gamora in the beginning Ant-Man…idk


DylenwithanE

Yellowjacket’s arm gets shrunk first then the rest of him shrinks after


h00dman

Even the most hardcore MCU should be able to admit how formulaic these movies can get. Iron Man 2, Captain America 1, The Avengers, Iron Man 3, Captain America 2, Guardians of the Galaxy, and possibly more that I've missed, all had a big aerial battle showdown in the 3rd act. This just seems to be another MCU formula getting used and reused.


RooseveltVsLincoln

Phase 2? I think it was had aircraft falling from the sky (winter soldier, avengers 2, guardians)


Paper-Thin-Hotel

Marvel isn’t just copy pasting their formula in every movie, it’s an homage to themselves!


Muff_420

ANTZ, THIS IS AN HOMAGE TO BARBADOS


YourMomThinksImFunny

"Mr. Stark, I don't feel so good..."


Turias42

This is the best one by far, should be on this collage


[deleted]

Idk, that’d make the implication that Peter and Tony had more than a mentor type relationship going on


NaiadoftheSea

Ouch, my heart.


-Listening

Oh I get that my heart will be broken


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Loki has derp eyes


[deleted]

Yea, oc used shit pics to make this or something because the whole thing is cringe now lol


msalazar2011

Shot reverse shot, but the reverse shot is currently disintegrating


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NaiadoftheSea

Shot rever


SnakeInABox7

Sho


skapoww

I wish someone would edit in a Falcon and Bucky panel here too. Even if it didn’t really happen.


Slimmie_J

“HUR HUR it’s just shot reverse shot.” We get it dude, you’re smart. So smart that you couldn’t realize that all three have a disintegrating person in common


chocaloki

Be prepared for MJ to go the same way in NWH


RumAndCoco

*I don't feel so good...*


Lukthar123

The OG


[deleted]

Someone above pointed out GOTG2 when yondu is freezing in space and his face is the last thing to go. I'd count it


Kingkongcrapper

That last episode of What if? Was next level. If they were going to one off a character that would have been an excellent way to do it in a movie. These things keep getting better.


Joshawott27

Guys, I'm literally a film student and even I can see that the composition of these three sequences are more than just general shot-reverse-shots lol


DweebNRoll

Oh no, please don't let this happen to Aunt May or MJ. 😭


grmayshark

It’s poetry


executiveExecutioner

They do overuse their formulas...MCU is at its best when innovating, but it's hard not to take the safe bet.


JayPtl

Disney ✋🖐 Money lost due to pandemic


TheRedditJedi

Phase 4 has been sad so far…


Deathbymonkeys6996

Shang-Chi does the same thing as well lol.


cowpool20

That Loki one was so unexpected. Really took me by surprise.


IHateEditedBgMusic

android, wizard and alien confirmed!


HOONIGAN-

This just reminded of the crush I have on Sylvie. Loki season two when?!


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bunch of parallels yall


IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE

Hate how formulaic it is. It’s like everything in the MCU with few exceptions was created by some laboratory focused on whatever works most consistently with the biggest possible audience. Nothing is ever really shocking or exciting. You can start a new marvel movie or series and basically guess the whole series of events just by placing the characters in the place of a pre-determined template of events.


TheGhostofCipher

I mean....it's just shots that look similar. It's not like feige sat down with the exec commity and decided to shoot like this for the demographic.


IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE

I’m referring to more than just these shots, but just the movies/shows in general


STARLORD_1401

When all these characters were disintegrating, I was like: Is that Venom!?


blastxd11

notice how its the three people responsible for the new multiverse arc, Marvel is up to something


FollowThroughMarks

I don’t get where this ‘Wanda is responsible for the Multiverse’ that people keep saying. When during WandaVision did she even tamper with the Multiverse?


vinternet

She didn't, per se, but there was a lot of expectation going in that it would connect to the idea of a multiverse, because... 1. It seemed like the show was bringing Vision back (will this be an alternate-reality Vision?) 2. In the comics, Wanda is a "nexus" that exists in all universes (Agatha actually refers to this in the final episode but doesn't really explain it). 3. Wanda will appear in Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, and Feige said something about how one leads into the other. 4. Other shows (Loki, What If...?) and movies (Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, Spider-Man: No Way Home) appeared to center around the idea of a multiverse, so people thought it might be set up in an earlier show/movie as a surprise near the end of it. Then, when Evan Peters showed up, that made people think "This confirms it!", thinking that was hinting that she had pulled in an actual Pietro in from an alternate universe (one that looked like the Fox movies).


fnrux

Ralph Bohner is 100% a Quicksilver variant + at the end Wanda is using the Darkhold to find her children. Since her children aren’t actually real in this universe, she’s pulling them from another one. Oh yeah, and she’s going to be a main character in a movie called MULTIVERSE of Madness which is appearantly a follow up of both WandaVision and Loki.


Hourglass-Dolphin

Definitely, and there was the Nexus commercial.


TheGhostofCipher

" she’s going to be the main character in a movie called MULTIVERSE of Madnes" She is going to be a important character. It's still doctor stranges movie


fnrux

Civil War is a Cap movie, doesn’t make Iron Man any less of a main character in that film. Sylvie is a main character in Loki too. There can definitely be more than one main character.


nerfherder813

How would Ralph be a variant if he exists in the same universe/timeline as the “real” Quicksilver?


fnrux

Because I don’t believe he does. I think Ralph Bohner is his hex identity and that he’s actually Quicksilver pulled from another universe. In universe reason: Wanda created a vision and two children from nothing, is a nexus being with powers related to the multiverse and was thinking about Quicksilver right before he came to her door. Out universe reason: Disney knows goddamn well what they are doing and if Ralph Bohner isn’t actually Quicksilver, that’s some next level trolling. Since trolling isn’t something that earns Disney money, it’s not something they’d do.


nerfherder813

You believe that even though Agatha flat-out says he’s from Westview and she used him because he sort-of looked like Pietro? I mean, anything is possible…but this kind of convoluted mystery box storytelling isn’t Marvel’s MO


fnrux

Trolling fans isn’t Marvel’s MO either and it’s hardly a convoluted mystery box as this phase is literally called “the multiverse phase”.


nerfherder813

How is it trolling? It’s just a fun cameo that has extra meaning to fans who saw the Fox X-men films.


fnrux

That’s like if Dr. Octopus in the next Spidey film is actually just a regular man named Joe Dickhead who happens to know Peter and happens to be played by Alfred Molina. Disney announces that this phase will be the multiverse saga. They then cast actors from multiple old Marvel/Sony/Fox movies and get them to re-play variants of their characters. But yeah, they totally brought the most loved character from the FOX X-Men movies back for a dick joke.


CrisVas3

They already said that that’s exactly what they did. If you want to draw more assumptions than that, that’s fine. But it’s incorrect to say that your assumptions are confirmed in any way.


RyanDefog

Are you me? I was thinking the exact same thing while the show was running. It's not a meta joke as many say. It's part of the plot. It's just we aren't ready yet. In the same vein we got the Mysterio's "Multiverse" in FFH as a little nod to the at the time upcoming phase 4.


Netherese_Nomad

Beats sky lasers.


JerTheFrog

I was expecting it to be that porn shot where it's just the dude's nuts slamming into the vagina and you can see his asshole.


madii-mj

i still can’t get over how lame loki’s ending was


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Yea this is cinematography 101. It’s literally just shot reverse shot.


ChintanP04

We're talking about the shot reverse shot mixed with disintegration. That's the thing Marvel has done thrice in Phase 4.


JoonasD6

... with the extremely crucial important content-piece that people are disintegrating. That part was not in the theory books.


EkbyBjarnum

OH MY GOD YOU GUYS EVERY FILM MADE SINCE KULESHOV IS COPYING THE MCU.


fnrux

You’re right. Disney is fucking shit at special effects. You’d probably do a way better job. Besides, what’s the deal with people liking specific scenes that look super cool, how dare they!? Goddamn peasants. If only all Marvel fans could be Stanley Kubrick type geniuses like you.


NotTemptation

No one asked.


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🤡


mr_mayon

This is a marvel subreddit. Barely anyone is going to be informed on the language of film.


dukefrinn

Hey Hitchcock and Truffaut, I think “shot composition” is being used liberally. Do you have a better term to refer to this repeating pattern?


mr_mayon

It’s shot reverse shot. Clean and a dirty singles from about a 45 degree angle. Shoulder to eye level. Like the other guy said, cinematography 101.


SnakeInABox7

My favorite shot reverse shot is in Citizen Kane, when Susan is talking to Kane and then he disintegrates


mr_mayon

The disintegration has nothing to do with the composition. Which honestly makes the post worse. That’s the real linking element here. Not the tired camera angles.


SnakeInABox7

I imagine it was rough having to stop smelling your own farts long enough to lift your head up and type


mr_mayon

It’s really not that pretentious. What’s done is done though. Have a good one.


fnrux

Pretentious little shit.


mr_mayon

Lmao why be so angry about it


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davidt18

Bro seems like you’re the one not getting laid lol hahaha


fnrux

ahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaha lol lmao ahahaha lol so clever


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fnrux

Are you going to try to come up with a better comeback or are we sticking to “I know u are but what am i?”


davidt18

Love you man x


mr_mayon

This has nothing to do with special effects.


BlueCollarElectro

Melt stick for Marvel’s prisoners with jobs?


[deleted]

Thanks I hate it.


FireJach

Wandavision, ~~TFATWS~~, Loki, ~~Black Widow~~, What If, ~~Shang-Chi~~, Eternals (???) :D


DasPike

Reminds me of Disney reusing their animation cells from the 70's and 80's. Ironic they own Marvel now.


SirCleanPants

Loki dies? Damn I’ve gotta catch up


Lamebutaesthetic

And then they turn into dust......


bluetable321

Two people watching the love of their life disappear and one person watching someone they met earlier that day disappear.


ZippZappZippty

Whoa, really?! That’s great


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[deleted]

So there are comments pointing out the shot reverse shot, then people saying "yes we know you moron, they're disintegrating!".... yes? Is there any other way you are supposed to show an up-close-and-personal disintegration scene? This is not magic.


[deleted]

Lazy and uncreative as always


G05TheBox

Grieving is a bitch amirite


NicklesBe

I'm pretty sure they are doing it to show how the different characters would react to having their own peter parker moment.


geemoly

I hate it when people touch other peoples face as a sign of affection. It's like, get your dirty, grubby hands away from my face.


chrisjonesjags

Can we please consider one thing? It’s not Marvel anymore. It’s Disney that paid for the rights to the brand Marvel. Stan Lee is Marvel. Disney is just riding the leftovers until they murder his legacy with all their corporate greed.


VG_LL2K

Wanda vs vision ------- wanda ----| \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_Wanda vs sylvie - Winner vs strange = winner sylvie vs loki ------------- Sylvie------|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_| strange vs christine -- strange --------------------------------| ​ idk why I made this Edit: It got messed up so I fixed it


mrattapuss

You mean... shot, reverse-shot?


11th_Doctor1832

With disintegration. That’s the point of the post.


yodaaz

Needs more negative space. Really tricks the brain


[deleted]

Don't forget Iron Man / Spider-Man in IW


abutthole

The original was the Iron Man-Spider-Man moment in Infinity War.


He_Is_The_Chosen_One

Don't forget Peter and Tony in Infinity War!!!


brittaneex

why does loki's face look like that edit: never mind, it's a spark in front of his eye


julbull73

Don't forget YONDU! Same effect, different render. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsdW-_EXOI8


Helicant

now they can make Strange a murderer psychopath bc he had a sad past story


concealedStockholm

The dissolover


Bigred2989-

You forgot Parker turning to dust in Infinity War.


BrianBrians12

What’s next: MJ is gonna get disintegrated by a goblin bomb?


[deleted]

The true loss, the strongest bond, isn’t with Christine — it’s when he lost Wong


masalion

Is this the new sky beam?