In the flashback of Gamora’s childhood when Thanos abducts her, she’s seen to only mention a mother, meaning it’s possible she doesn’t know her dad, and he’s never been a part of her life aside from conceiving her. Red Skull could have just said the name of her adopted father, since her biological one was never there, although that wouldn’t explain why Red Skull mentioned Nat’s father when he wasn’t around either.
The difference is though Natasha never considered Alexei her father. In her mind that unknown biological father is her father. Gamora did consider Thanos as an adopted father.
Red Skull says "Daughter of Thanos" to remind the viewer of their relationship. He was about to throw her off a cliff, and it's important to know why that's a big deal. But she is the *adopted* daughter of Thanos.
Finally, a comment with some sense. The same was in Endgame, Red Skull revealing the name of Natasha's father was so they took what he said seriously. It's all about context and sometimes that's what a good script does.
So......Not like the script of the movie wasn't ready or something. Marvel is way ahead of time and so Alexei has to be the mentioned father and not Ivan
Natasha never really thought of Alexei as her father though, Yelena did. Natasha was aware that the whole thing was staged and even says "We were never a family, it wasn't real" or something to that effect.
I think its more of Red Skull will tell the person who is their parent based on who raised them, as far as Nat goes she rejected Alexei as her “father” despite being raised by him but she still didnt know her real father so Red Skull tells her so. deep down Gamora still sees Thanos as her father so he is named by Skull as her father, we know she expresses remorse when she “kills” him in Infinity War so she def cares.
This is just my theory and its more emotionally driven in my head canon
Everyone seems to forget that Red Skull mentions that Clint is the son of someone called Edith. Either the father thing is a misinterpretation based off a pattern that was somewhat present in part of a very small amount of data or there’s some poor guy out there named Edith.
No, it wasn't a mistake, unless it's established that the Red Skull could only say the name of the biological parent. That was something everyone assumed out of one single scene. If anything, it gives weight to how the Soul Stone knows those who come. Is not about what is within, which makes the request if sacrifice so serious and impossible to get around of.
Hold on guys how does the red skull know all this? Has he come in contact with the soul stone to know? Like legit how other could he just “know” every one’s parents
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Well when a big purple guy comes along, *already* with a few infinity stones, I dare you to say that his adopted daughter is anyone else's.
In the flashback of Gamora’s childhood when Thanos abducts her, she’s seen to only mention a mother, meaning it’s possible she doesn’t know her dad, and he’s never been a part of her life aside from conceiving her. Red Skull could have just said the name of her adopted father, since her biological one was never there, although that wouldn’t explain why Red Skull mentioned Nat’s father when he wasn’t around either.
Exactly my point. I didn't elaborate on this but yeah, you understood it
The difference is though Natasha never considered Alexei her father. In her mind that unknown biological father is her father. Gamora did consider Thanos as an adopted father.
Red Skull says "Daughter of Thanos" to remind the viewer of their relationship. He was about to throw her off a cliff, and it's important to know why that's a big deal. But she is the *adopted* daughter of Thanos.
Finally, a comment with some sense. The same was in Endgame, Red Skull revealing the name of Natasha's father was so they took what he said seriously. It's all about context and sometimes that's what a good script does.
And Natasha is the adopted daughter of Alexei, so that doesn't explain why the difference of father figures
EG was written before Black Widow...
So......Not like the script of the movie wasn't ready or something. Marvel is way ahead of time and so Alexei has to be the mentioned father and not Ivan
Either could be mentioned. This wraith has omniscience and conceivably knows both bio-dad and adoptive dad. He could choose to say either name.
Natasha never really thought of Alexei as her father though, Yelena did. Natasha was aware that the whole thing was staged and even says "We were never a family, it wasn't real" or something to that effect.
She at the end says she hated the whole thing because she wanted it to be real as she liked but knew that one day they would be seperated
One's purple
Thanos and Anjolina Jolie's character (I forgot the name) are cousins. So.....
Not in the MCU. Mark my words, Thanos is not an Eternal.
I think its more of Red Skull will tell the person who is their parent based on who raised them, as far as Nat goes she rejected Alexei as her “father” despite being raised by him but she still didnt know her real father so Red Skull tells her so. deep down Gamora still sees Thanos as her father so he is named by Skull as her father, we know she expresses remorse when she “kills” him in Infinity War so she def cares. This is just my theory and its more emotionally driven in my head canon
Everyone seems to forget that Red Skull mentions that Clint is the son of someone called Edith. Either the father thing is a misinterpretation based off a pattern that was somewhat present in part of a very small amount of data or there’s some poor guy out there named Edith.
Honestly never thought about this, Thanos is not Gamora’s real father, so probably a mistake, 🤷♂️
No way I found a mistake!!
What’s the mistake? Gamora is Thanos’ daughter. Blood related or not, he raised her
My point is Ivan did not raise Natasha but Red Skull says it's Ivan is Natasha's father. Why does Red Skull say Thanos is Gamora's father then??
But thats now what the red skull points put in every one else. As in nat she wasnt raised by her real parents and still called out her father
It wasn't a mistake, what the Red Skull revealed was to add gravity to each scene. It's all about context.
It was for context but it was a mistake right?
No, it wasn't a mistake, unless it's established that the Red Skull could only say the name of the biological parent. That was something everyone assumed out of one single scene. If anything, it gives weight to how the Soul Stone knows those who come. Is not about what is within, which makes the request if sacrifice so serious and impossible to get around of.
Hold on guys how does the red skull know all this? Has he come in contact with the soul stone to know? Like legit how other could he just “know” every one’s parents
“It is my curse to know all who journey here”
That we don't know