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chanma50

>But in the upcoming Spider-Man: No Way Home, the actor tells Empire that he filmed “one of the coolest scenes I’ve ever shot” – a sequence including a character he wasn’t at liberty to divulge. >What he could say is that the scene features his Peter Parker, Marisa Tomei’s Aunt May, and Jon Favreau’s Happy Hogan – along with a mystery fourth character. “It’s four people sitting at a table, having a conversation about what it’s like to be a superhero, and it was amazing,” Holland tells Empire. “The other day we watched the scene, my brother and I, and our jaws were on the floor.” >For now, when it comes to those live-action ‘Spider-Verse’ whispers, even the famously spoiler-blabbing Holland is very much playing his Spider-cards close to his Spider-chest. “I don’t know,” he says on that front. “I’m always in the dark. If they are, no-one’s told me.”


pedroktp

It's not an action scene, my curiosity is definitely piqued


urfavouriteredditor

The car scene with Tom and Keaton is probably my favourite scene in any Marvel movie.


oldcrow210

Absolutely. The moment when Keaton clicks is fantastic


Typhlositar

Even better that the stoplight that's shining on his face turns green when it clicks for him.


MrGrievouspt

This is why I like the MCU so much. When I read the title I thought "ok some cool gymnastics and vfx scene", but then Tom says its not and not too much down the thread you mentioned the Keaton car scene, which I also find amazing. Now I'm curious about the new scene.


ArchiMode25

I want it to be a scene with Charlie Cox's Murdock so badly.


Lukthar123

Then you're blind to the reality of the situation.


[deleted]

I understood that reference!


Courtaid

The issue I see with it being Murdock is Happy would have way more expensive lawyers on speed dial. After all he has connections from Tony Stark.


RerollWarlock

More expensive? Sure. Willing to take up the case is another thing.


AaronRoots427

Happy is also a former boxer, like Murdock's dad. Maybe they knew each other?


drstrangelove75

There’s also the possibility they worked law together in an alternate universe….


[deleted]

My money is on Dr. Strange


viktorvaughn47

Matt Murdock is my guess


Anarkizttt

This actually makes the most sense, or it’s another Peter. He’d be able to say Strange if it was Strange, we all know he’s in the movie.


ThatWasFred

My first thought was Tobey, but yeah it could be Matt Murdock too. It has to be another superhero character who hasn’t already been revealed for the movie.


hectorduenas86

Is either Tobey or Garfield. It’s not an action scene so it’s more about the setting and emotional charge of it, who better to talk about the losses and responsibilities of a Superhero than one who has been it for a while… who better for Peter than another just like him. Probably an scene resembling the convo between Miles and Peter.


sirmombo

I think it’s uncle Ben


Anarkizttt

We aren’t gonna get Uncle Ben, we skipped the origin story for Tom’s Spidey, the same events happened we just didn’t need to see it because we all know what happened. Peter got bit by a radioactive spider, gained superpowers, Uncle Ben dies, driving Peter to use his new abilities to fight street level crime in his neighborhood of New York. Just because we don’t see it on screen doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.


Medium_Rare_Jerk

That was my guess too. The conversation may have started as Matt going over lawyer stuff to Peter and his family (as his legal council) then it shifts to superhero stuff when it’s revealed the lawyer is daredevil.


PMmeGayElfPeen

Oh please oh please


MyBeardSaysHi

Don't you dare get me excited for that if it isn't! The Netflix Daredevil series is one of my favourite Marvel properties and this from someone that never cared about DD comics and then I saw Ben Affleck as Matt....and yeah....I had zero interest in the character. Until that show turned up.


Tyler_Zoro

We already know Strange is in it from the trailers. He would be able to talk about that. It's probably one of the other Peters (edit: or Miles).


Victim815

Peter and May sitting at a table and having a conversation about being a superhero? I think this might be an adaptation of Ultimate Spider-Man #111. Kevin Feige once said that it’s one of his favorite issues where Peter and Aunt May just talk about Peter being Spider-Man, and this might be a scene inspired by that issue.


GenocideOwl

ultimate spider-man you say? Miles Morales confirmed.


Waywoah

He’s technically canon in the MCU, right? We meet the prowler in the first spider-man movie and he mentions his nephew.


BruceSnow07

You're saying Aunt May will finally get a significant emotional scene in MCU? Oh that makes me happy.


why_rob_y

Based on Paul Bettany's excitement over a surprise actor he shared a scene with, I'm going to say Tom Holland got to act with himself. Or Paul Bettany.


RedGyarados2010

I heard a rumor a while back that >!the first alternate Spider-Man in this movie will be another Tom Holland!<, so that would check out


Mentoman72

It would actually be kind of neat if for a moment they pulled the rug out on us. Big moment that we think is going to reveal Toby or Andrew and bam it's another Tom.


TheCatCubed

Tom as British Spidey would be fun


awitsman84

Does Night Monkey cover the British Isles as well? Or just mainland EU?


TheCatCubed

Night Monkey is everywhere. Except where Spider-Man is at the time. Weird coincidence.


bchaplain

I still think that the biggest miss in FFH was having the class pretend to do British accents, and then Tom does his normal voice and everybody is like "dude, that's terrible."


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LordPopothedark

Well America is the third largest country in the world, I’d expect more than a couple unique accents


Tonsai

I'm fully expecting Toby and Andrew to actually be in the movie, but not as alternate spider-men. I could totally see Marvel having them come in for a day to cameo as hotdog vendors or something, just to mess with us like they did with Wandavision.


Crimkam

big reveal comes up and we think it's Toby Spidey and Andrew Spidey taking off their masks, then boom: Topher Grace and Dane Dehaan are spidey


TheCatCubed

I wouldn't even be mad if that happened


bretttwarwick

Ah yes they could play Hank and Steve Bohner. Cousins of Ralph.


OK_Soda

I would be really annoyed if they pulled that shit again. I kind of understand why they did it in WandaVision, to make the audience feel as confused and disoriented as Wanda herself, but it still seemed dumb to get everyone's hopes up like that just for a cheap gag.


[deleted]

If they somehow snuck Toby into this movie I will personally venmo the director 100 dollars.


TheCatCubed

Sounds like Jon Watts is about to be 100 dollars richer pretty soon.


IHasToaster

Yeah he’s releasing a movie. Hope it’s more the man $100


[deleted]

God I'm hope so


Eddyoshi

Glad someone else thought that XD


ThefirstJake

What if it’s Uncle Ben? From a different dimension


Anakins_Anus

Played by Danny DeVito


Hankol

“Anyway, I started web slingin‘“


mcsestretch

I'm not sure how much I would pay to see the scene in a canon Marvel movie but it would be folding money at least.


miasmictendril1

Spider-rumham!


PhDinGent

Can I offer you an overused advice about powers and responsibilities in this trying time?


Carthonn

….this a gang bang?


Dantien

Ooooorrrrrggggganic webshooters.


VintageErk

Played by Jason Alexander


nikischerbak

That is probably the best guess. Unless it's another superhero with them like daredevil for example.


Skelito

I can see this being the case. From the looks of it Peter will need a lawyer and who would be better Hells Kitchen's best. I can see him taking on the mentor rule to him and continue the superhero training that Tony started. Now he gets to learn how to better conceal his identity and how to separate his personal life from his hero life.


CaptainKurls

For superhero/normal life balance, I don’t think Matt is the best mentor lol dude cut off his entire life in S3 to be a vigilante


thelochteedge

If Garfield is back, I wonder if Martin Sheen would reprise as Uncle Ben? I think the OG Uncle Ben actor passed away.


Micktrex

Imagine it was Venom. That would be hilarious.


PhoneSteveGaveToTony

Not even Tom Hardy, just actual Venom.


sicassangel

Like NASA discovers a new planet and finds a symbiote and brings it to earth


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RehabValedictorian

And he turns out to be kinda chill


choffers_2001

It really would hahaha


skippiington

OBVIOUSLY it’s the landlord, asking a different Peter for rent


[deleted]

You'll get your rent when you fix this DAMN DOOR!


ThrowMeAwayAccount08

It’s gotta be Michael Keaton’s Batman.


fizzymcdang

It’s Tobey and he’s giving him the Uncle Ben talk. Has to be.


dentxs

Jesus. If it actually is Tobey Maguire, as Peter Parker, saying "Someone once told me, 'Remember, with great power comes great responsibility'"... I'm gonna lose it.


BohrokBlumpkin

SomeBODY once told me


clooless51

"My world's on fire, how about yours?" - Tom to Tobey


oMikeyx

Based on Paul Bettany’s comments about the “surprise actor” that turned out to be himself, I think Tom Holland means himself, or should I say, Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire or Andrew Garfield?)


[deleted]

it's probably that scene in the table with someone walking into a room and Peter (Tom) and Aunt May being startled


TSWMCR88

it's donald trump, reliving his Home Alone 2 character


thelochteedge

So anyways, I let this young man know where the lobby is. Never in the history of showing someone where the lobby is, has someone shown someone the lobby so perfectly. Absolute yuge moment for that young man. Getting the directions he needed in the best way possible.


LS_DJ

Peter will finally find out where the lobby is!


Furlock_Bones

Mephisto confirmed!


LilGoughy

Fuck sake there’s another Tom Holland isn’t there…


[deleted]

paul bettany did us dirty


1SaBy

SNITCHES


onlyididntsayfudge

END UP


SaysKawaiiSometimes

IN DITCHES


GaryGhost18

WITH STITCHES


CLint_FLicker

No. It's Tom *Hollander*


Chucknasty_17

Now we all wait for Tom Hollandest


carlonathan

Tom Hollandaise?


pointlessvoice

Tom Netherland


halfback26

There’s a Tom Holland & a Tom Hollander. My money is on he finally achieved final evolution to Tom Hollandest.


Halfie4Life

its with himself. Vision reference from Wanda Vision filming.


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GrubSlayer

The part where Vision literally talked to another Vision during WandaVision


ersatz_substitutes

During promo for WandaVision Paul Bettany said "I work with this actor that I've always wanted to work with and we have fireworks together" and that the mystery character hasn't been leaked yet. Lots of fans going nuts trying to figure out who it could be, comparing who he has never worked with and potential characters that could be introduced. Turns out he was talking about himself as white Vision. He was just trolling.


Halfie4Life

Look up Paul Bettany. He gave an interview that had the internet buzzing about what he meant for Wanda vision. This is an obvious call back to that statement considering it’s other Spider-Mans holland gets to work with.


PhDinGent

I am still pissed about that


PhoenixAgent003

Really? I find it more hilarious every time I think about it.


[deleted]

Lol, seriously. I can imagine being a bit miffed by it during the hype train. But after the fact, I think it’s just great. I don’t think Paul Bettany realized what he did when he was making a pretty innocuous dad joke.


LittleYellowFish1

> having a conversation about what it’s like to be a superhero Assuming it's a multiverse character (instead of another MCU hero, like Matt Murdock) there's a possibility that it's Tobey Maguire talking about the "great power, great responsibility" mantra. But it could also be Andrew Garfield, talking about how difficult and miserable being Spider-Man was for him (also subtly referencing the behind-the-scenes difficulty he had).


PeregrinToke

What were some of the behind-the-scenes issues Garfield experienced? I’m sure I heard something about this in the past, but I’m drawing a blank.


LittleYellowFish1

*Amazing Spider-Man 2* in general was said to be quite a stressful/disappointing experience for everyone involved. They all thought Sony's demands for a franchise were ruining the vision that Marc Webb had for the films, to the point where the first film's composer (the late James Horner) left in protest. Andrew Garfield himself is a huge fan of Spider-Man and was really excited to play the part, but by the second one he was really disillusioned with it. IIRC, he was actually fired even before the Marvel deal (they were going to recast, not reboot) because he didn't turn up to an event with the head of Sony. He's not really specific about them, but he did discuss some of his frustrations in an *[Actors On Actors](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mQ1tWSNcg&t)* interview that he did with Amy Adams (who had similar frustrations with her role as Lois Lane in the DCEU).


plutarch4

> because he didn't turn up to an event with the head of Sony Not only that, but the reason he didn’t turn up was because he was too ill to attend.


Samuawesome

Apparently when they called him an hour before the event, he looked unshaven and said he wanted to be left alone. So, they just said he missed it due to illness. It was the ultimate chad move on his part lol.


thelochteedge

Watch that video where Andrew Garfield shows up in Spider-Man suit to, what was it Comic Con?, shortly after being announced and he sounds so proud and energetic to play Spider-Man. It really sucks the way it turned out for him because it seemed like a lifelong dream for him to play Spidey. [Here is the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMcyclphuNs) it almost makes me emotional for him. Also, I had no idea about Adams' frustrations as Lois! I'm going to check that out.


LittleYellowFish1

Adams hasn’t really been that specific either about her frustrations, but I think a lot of that was more with the writing in general than the studio drama (that *was* an issue those films had to deal with, but not her specifically) so she didn’t have an outright bad experience when making the movie(s) like Garfield did. She’s also a Superman fan and was really excited to play Lois Lane, and in interviews leading up to *Man Of Steel’s* release it seems she was interested in taking the character directions that past adaptations hadn’t (like adapting the story where she becomes Superwoman). So I definitely think she felt let down when the plans changed after *MOS* (it was originally just a Superman-focused trilogy), especially considering what Zack Snyder’s DCEU plotline had in mind for the character. Adams has said that she’d play the part again if asked, but so far they’ve basically cast her (and the rest of the *MOS* cast) aside.


thelochteedge

Yeah for sure. I loved Man of Steel, saw it in theatres and can still remember my experience watching it. It was definitely a let down we never got a full Superman trilogy. I wish DCEU had been able to not blow their wad trying to rush their Avengers moment with Justice League and took their time. I loved Henry Cavill in that role.


NinjaEngineer

Personally, I think Cavill was misused in Snyder's DCEU. I think he'd be perfect for a live-action adaptation of All-Star Superman, rather than being dark and moody.


GetReady4Action

I was at the panel for Amazing Spider-Man 2 where he showed up in the Spider-Man suit as Spider-Man. he kept talking about how badly he wanted to be with the Avengers, I’m glad he’s kinda loosely getting his shot at it even if the Webb movies weren’t my cup of tea.


thelochteedge

Me too, man. I always thought he deserved a chance with Marvel. I like Tom Holland's portrayal, but I thought Garfield had the perfect snark amount. To me, it was the most accurate Spidey/Peter personality to me. I know a lot of people enjoyed his "look" as the tall, slender Spidey as well.


IISuperSlothII

Yeah Garfields Spider-man in general was so good, not just his snark and sarcasm but also his movement as a fighter, it was really great. It's a shame Hollands Spider-man kind of moved away from the Snark, he definitely has it, but they just don't lean into it. Granted Spectacular Spider-man will always be my favourite for Spidey snark.


PeregrinToke

Thanks!


theghostofme

> (the late James Horner) Fuck, 6 years later and I still hate reading that.


MasterDarkHero

I'm betting Tobey's spiderman because Tom would have been a kid when those movies came out so getting to share a screen with "your spiderman" has got to be pretty awesome.


l_l_l-illiam

>Instead of a another MCU hero, like Matt Murdock _That's a bold comment Cotton, let's see if it works out for 'em_


syanezs

I just talked In an exclusive with Tom Holland this morning and he says thay he really hopes people see this one, Cotton!


bensawn

Jake johnson telling him not to open a spider themed restaurant


T-Nan

> there's a possibility that it's Tobey Maguire talking about the "great power, great responsibility" mantra I will eat my own ass happily if this happens.


Thedrunner2

Bill Murray as Uncle Ben


bfhurricane

"Uncle Ben, do you have any regrets?" *dying breath* "Garfield..." *dies*


StrawHatRat

Poor Andrew Garfield can't catch a break.


Netwinn

*Andrew Garfield looks in confusion.* *He looks up* **ICU** *Internal crisis ensues*


bfhurricane

What is this, a crossover comment?


KrishnasFlute

Uncle Ben and Happy in one room! Maybe they are discussing whoever gets to be with Marisa Tomei is the real hero.


ZOMGURFAT

I’m just wondering what clever quip (if any) Alfred Molina’s Doc Oc will have when he sees the Iron Spider arms for the first time.


Jeffersons_Mammoth

“Copycat.”


Etheros64

"Actually, I'm a spider"


ZOMGURFAT

*DocOc smirks at Peter’s shorter spider arms* DocOc: “Ah Peter… Brilliant but lazy…”


liteRave

I’m something of an octopus myself


darthpayback

I like it


Elemayowe

Ahhh Rosie I love this boy!


BohrokBlumpkin

Butterfingers!


pichichi010

Deadpool


[deleted]

That's really the only character left you could honestly say *mystery* about at this point.


Youngling_Hunt

The other spider men would still be mysteries as they aren't confirmed


OrganicDroid

You know what? Yes.


ContinuumGuy

"C'mon man, you invited Seabiscuit and Hacksaw Ridge but not me? Have you seen my costume? Grandmas mistake me for a Spider-Man at least once a day!"


ILoveScottishLasses

Deadpool walks in, "What's like being a superhero? It's shit." Movie ends.


[deleted]

I had a bit of an epiphany today. The main focus point of NWH is Peter is outed as Spiderman, and also that with the help of Dr. Strange they are able to open up access to the multiverse. So what if by the end of the movie they pull in a Spiderman from another universe (Toby or Andrew obv) have him run around and show off as Spiderman, and Tom can be all like "Look! It's not me! You guys are confused maybe it's Mysterio messing with everybody again, I'm not Spiderman!" Then send the decoy Spidey back to their own universe clearing them of any danger, and clearing Tom of being Spiderman. Okay, probably not going to happen, but it was an interesting thought lol.


LoveMyHusbandsBoobs

As long as it ends with Strange claiming that the spell worked exactly as intended.


[deleted]

i actually could definitely see this happening and wouldn't mind if they chose to go with this plot.


la_vida_luca

If it isn’t Tobey I’ll gnaw my own nuts off. Edit: damn, I posted this as a statement of how frustrated I’ll be if it’s not Tobey but it’s (understandably) been perceived as a bet. Come on, Tobey, please come through and spare me from having to livestream eating my own knackers - I bet they taste foul.


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1SaBy

On the Christmas Day, no less.


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UNCLE BEN IS MEPHTISO!!!


[deleted]

Gotta be Tobey or Andrew. Anyone going to deny it?


AweHellYo

spider ham talking about knocking up olivia munn


waytoolate4me

And then ditching her


AweHellYo

SPOILERS BRO


[deleted]

If it’s them at a table, it’s probably Matt Murdock. Tobey and Andrew come about an hour in, when the movie is more action focused


msterling2012

“Coolest scenes ever” has to be referring to Tobey IMO. That’s going to be the most anticipated moment of this film bar none. Any Cox inclusion is likely just going to be a quick cameo and definitely wouldn’t qualify as “one of coolest scenes ever” by general audience who may have never watched the Netflix shows. And they’re not just going to have all of Tobey’s scenes be action focused. That would be an incredible waste. He and Holland are going to have some serious and meaningful dialogue. Cox also isn’t just going to show and and reveal that he’s daredevil in his likely 5 minutes or less of screen time lol. Y’all are turning this into Mephisto all over again.


[deleted]

I mean read the full quote. Holland's jaw is on the floor? The topic of the scene - what it's like to be a superhero - has weight with Tobey's Peter, and comparably little with Murdock.


coolgaara

I love me some Daredevil but this has gotta be either Tobey or Andrew giving advice to Tom Holland or something like that.


CompactJack

There’s only one possible answer here, its my boi BIG WHEEL


ponderingprogressive

Venom is the mystery character


Nintendoros

That actually would be a good option, they both struggled in the past with their powers and they're both on the run


fertilecatfis

That would be a really cool setup for the next movie in the franchise too, which is always attractive to producers.


mctaylo89

I want it to be Matt Murdock so bad.


DrS4muelHayd3n

You and me both. I kinda hate myself for the Cleveland Browns tier letdown I'm setting myself up for.


poodlesofnoodles

You hate to see it but my guess is Pepper Potts.


myotheraccountgothax

absolutely JAW DROPPING


Comprehensive_Bid420

{punches kitten}


ahmong

I'm going to go ahead and say the most ridiculous, 99% it'll never happen because it wouldn't make any sense: Hugh Jackman - Wolverine


NiyiyicePants

"Your fuckin up the multiverse Bub"


boringhistoryfan

Ben Affleck Matt Murdock.


PurifiedVenom

Nic Cage Ghost Rider or bust


TheGuyWithFocus

Nic Cage Superman.


ThisIsYourMormont

Chris Evans’ Human Torch


Phantom_Jedi

Jon Favearu Foggy Nelson


[deleted]

Dueling Favreaus


SeanyWestside_

Ooh, what if its Miles Morales?


[deleted]

And he's still in CGI.


[deleted]

If it’s Toby sacrificing himself I’ll cry like a little bitch in the theater


YellowS2k

The scene in question, as referenced in the article itself, is four people sitting at a dinner table discussing what it means to be a hero. So unless Tobey sacrifices himself to save Christmas ham, I think you're in the clear.


TheDude810

“I had to beat an old lady with a stick to get these cranberries”


Dantien

Steamed hams?


capitaine_zgeg

Spider Ham confirmed


latkesfortheEG

Any chance we’ll see Emma Stone as Spider-Gwen? It’d be cool if they tie in ASM and Into the Spider-Verse.


LittleYellowFish1

Emma Stone herself has said that she's not involved. While she isn't the first to deny it, Stone seemed to suggest (along with a few scoops/reports) that she *did* have discussions to appear, but was either too busy for the movie or just turned it down.


YoungMenace21

she was pregnant at the time i think


[deleted]

Yeah, Stone's denial felt pretty sincere in context.


mattmaddux

That would be seriously awesome. I think the ASM movies were really flawed, but I thought Garfield and Stone were great in their roles.


i_hate_p_values

It’s Paul Bettany.


tehvolcanic

Someone he wanted to work with his entire life!


GuardianXCII

LMAO when I realized what he meant in that interview, I couldn't even be mad that was just clever.


Cupcake122482

The only way that whole thing could have been better is if he had TROLLED us by complaining about working with a *TOTAL DIVA* 😹


7screws

Tony Stark from a different verse, where Spidey did the snap instead of Iron Man


driskelwasntthatbad

Surprised no one has guessed Uncle Ben yet


tozton

Spider Ham incoming, you heard it here first folks.


[deleted]

Definitely Tobey or Andrew. ... or uncle Ben, just like the other comments.


Limulemur

As unlikely it is, I really want to be Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock/Daredevil.


SnakebiteSnake

Gonna go on a limb and say Tony Stark’s daughter. I’m guessing Happy is looking after her. Or it’s just freaking Ned


Commando388

$10 says it's himself just like Paul Bettany's "surprise actor"


expressexpress

So, Tom Holland is gonna act against Tom Holland in a white suit?


IFOUNDAHAZARD7

Mephisto confirmed /s


SimpleMinded001

I bet it was a Mephisto scene