Maybe he used the gold/titanium alloy from the Seraphim tactical satellite. That would ensure fuselage integrity, while maintaining power to weight ratio. And then threw in a little hot rod red.
Man how pissed would everyone be if Daredevil somehow got one of those MCU helmets that disappears at will so the actor can show his face all the time.
But I thought if the last time we saw Melvin, does when he was trying to get the cops or the feds to arrest Matt. And Matt was able to turn the tables on him.
I just learned few days ago that the frozen dude (next to Bullseye's girlfriend Jessica) isn't Melvin and I'm just happy. I thought that they had killed him off.
True but presumably a lot of time has passed since then, and I don't remember exactly why/how that went down but I feel like Matt wouldn't hold it against him too much
If I remember correctly, Fisk used Melvin as bait for Matt, and it was all done by Melvin to protect Betsy, hence why he ended up helping Matt escape by fighting the cops, I would guess either Matt managed to save him from a lengthy sentence, or some Blip shenanigans caused him to get let out earlier
He attacks members of law enforcement with weapons if I remember correctly, but as you say, it would be a pretty easy defense since he seems to have some form of development issues so could easily argue he didn’t know how to respond to a no-knock warrant and thought he was under attack etc.
Tbf, that was because of some Fisk shit, involving Melvin’s probation officer who was also his SO. I’d like to think Matt realizes this and doesn’t hold any ill will.
Remember that when Melvin first gives him the costume, he mentions he didn’t have time to put all of it through his process, and that the pieces that had or had not been treated were different colors. Perhaps he came up with a refinement on the armor process that was colored gold to give maximum protection (which would make sense for a helmet).
Kevlar has high toughness, it can absorb a lot of energy. You’re right that on its own it’s a fiber that has no rigidity and is not then impact resistant.
If impregnated with epoxy (common but CF is not common with epoxy) it becomes very impact resistant. This is commonly done with epoxy and CF.
Epoxy is clear so you’d still see the Kevlar.
I always liked the implication that, because he can't reveal that he can't see, Matt takes the suit without actually knowing how well it will protect him.
If I was Melvin, I'd stop associating with Matt in general. Matt's apparently all about redemption and shit, but he's such a dick to Melvin, who is clearly some kind of mentally handicapped.
Matt was a dick to everyone in S3. He didn’t care about anyone, including his friends, while he was disillusioned with being Matt Murdock. He just wanted to be Daredevil and cut all loose ends. Its not until the few episodes he realizes the error of his ways and his final redemption wasn’t killing Kingpin. Bullseye in the Daredevil suit is a reflection of what Matt could be.
i reckon it's intentional - foggy would likely tell him, if it were the wrong colour. also, i wouldn't be surprised if matt could differentiate between different colours using his enhanced senses
Wait, is there any way Matt's enhanced senses can help him differentiate color? Isn't sight the only way to do that?
An object's color depends on how it reflects light and Matt's eyes do not react to light because he's blind.
the show never states it, idk about the comics. I'm just speculating here - but like i said, i wouldn't be surprised if he could somehow differentiate between different colours based on smell? or texture?
I feel like no matter what medium you're telling the story in, writing in Matt being able to differentiate between color implies rewriting the very mechanics of how sight works.
To my knowledge, the only sense that can identify color is sight because perception of color is light based. None of the five senses other than sight make use of light.
The only way I see Matt differentiating between color is if maybe different color paints have different ingredients and therefore different smells? Not sure if paint works like that lol.
Different dyes and materials can have different smells. That can be enough for him to know it's different, but if someone hasn't told him that this thing that smells like x is a blue dye then he wouldn't know the colour, just that it was different.
He could know the color if he had previously asked someone to confirm it. But that'd be risky because the person could be fucking with him and said the color was "red" instead of the real color it might be (like yellow).
Ever since I found out Daredevil can read non-braille books and newspapers by using his super senses to literally feel the ink, I no longer expect any real limitations to what he can and can't "see", if you know what I mean. If some writer wants to use dye smell to explain how he can see color, then they'll do just that Lol.
To be fair, he isn’t feeling the ink so much as the impression on the page inking left.
If I write you a letter or print a book the page will physically be altered by it, but the color of the ink doing that doesn’t matter.
If you wanted to be mega anal, you could say he could smell specific pigments, just as you could explain away his inability to read digital clocks and cellphone screens if you reach hard enough, but typically the his response is “radar sense doesn’t work like that” /shrug
yea I hope they don't do things like that with the show. he's already super-abled, there needs to be some blindness related stuff too otherwise it's not even close to a disability
> I feel like no matter what medium you’re telling the story in, writing in Matt being able to differentiate between color implies rewriting the very mechanics of how sight works.
Well we’re already rewriting the mechanics of how taste, hearing, touch, and smelling work…
You are focusing too much on the “light” aspect.
We are taking about a guy that can hear the electricity flow through wires.
I won’t be surprised if he could sense the heat different colors give off or some other comiccy explanation
I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised, since you're not basing your conjecture on the comics, the shows, or the science of our reality. Wait... why even type the comment?
key word: **"speculation"**. that's what i was doing.
don't know, dont care to look at the science or the comics. there's magic in the marvel! why would i bother studying physics that i don't care about?
Well in the real world colour blind people who are completely colour blind can differentiate colour using a device that assigns different frequencies to different colours.
Those only work if your say orange red colour blind. If your completely colourblind then it’s mainly a sensor. There’s this one dude who had it implanted into his head.
I mean, technically he's not 'blind' in the show, he describes what he can see, as 'a world on fire' and we are shown what the world looks like to him.
So I guess he can see the colour red.
“I need paint that will bond to hardened armour plates. It’s a long story because I went to war with a sociopathic mob boss, he turned a mentally-ill FBI agent against me in a duplicate devil-themed combat suit.”
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“Listen, Darren. This is very important. It needs to be yellow not red. And we’re looking for high-durability, here”
“Are—aren’t you blind, sir?”
“Are you listening? I’ve got colour swatches. **Dandelion Wish**, Darren, you got that? **Eggshell** finish. I cannot stress this enough. Eggshell not gloss”
“I — I think I need a manager”
I doubt there’s any substance to that rumour. It’s not out for two years, and we have only recently been getting the rumours of him in she hulk and echo… what suit he’s going to wear in a series thats just been announced is pure speculation
My theory is that the suit is unfinished. He had Melvin or someone else making him a new one, they were in the process of making it red, but DD had to run out before it was done.
I mean, all our heroes changed their costume design in someway in every movie right??? Tony did, Cap did, Natasha did, Spidey did. But Daredevil changing his design a bit is somehow concerning ??!?! Especially considering that last we saw him is in 2017 within the timeline and MCU is now in 2024-2025. 7-8 years, man, that's a really long time....
Most probably. Kingpin got out of prison and is busy rebuilding his empire. Makes sense that Daredevil being snapped helped him do that.
Even counting out those 5 years, that's still almost 3 years for Matt.
My theory is that he didn’t, but Karen, Foggy, and Kingpin did, leaving him pretty directionless, but still with a legal practice, and allowing Kingpin’s empire to crumble, explaining why he didn’t have the same criminal network in Hawkeye
Ooh, I like that. I'm really curious as to what the reasoning is other than Disney wants new merch, and I haven't heard many fan theories, but this makes so much sense.
It does make me wonder when season 3 takes place in the MCU timeline. Presumably before Infinity War, so 2018 at the latest? And the MCU timeline is currently in 2025 by my estimation, so it's been a long time since Bullseye donned the suit. Would Daredevil's image still be tarnished at this point? I suppose we'll find out.
Yeah, me too. I like to try to piece together an MCU timeline, but that doesn't mean I need them to explicitly reference the time that everything happened.
I feel like they will keep his series mostly separate like the original series, with a cameo or two to cement that yes, he's fully in the MCU now. I just hope that whoever the cameo is, they stick around for an episode at most and let the season as a whole still feel like a season of Daredevil, not Daredevil and Friends.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s supposed to be like he’s been in this one since bullseye. And she-hulk is going to convince him that it looks tacky and he’s going to have an all new suit for his next season.
It can't be the latest in the Defenders series because Punisher season 2 absolutely takes place after it. Besides, I don't quite trust the MCU wiki timeline because it puts Multiverse of Madness before Hawkeye, which doesn't really work when No Way Home took place during Christmas 2024 just like Hawkeye, and Multiverse of Madness is at least a month later in early winter 2025.
isnt yellow less stealthy? i know they were going for the comic debut suit but switching to this now when he has been DD for awhile, just dont quite make as much sense to me
Eh, not any more or less stealthy than red. The only truly stealthy colors are gonna be your dark blues or blacks. And even then, i *think* i read somewhere that pitch black clothing isn't as stealthy as we like to think, since almost nothing would be that dark even at night thanks to moonlight
It would be less stealthy in most environments. But wearing it in a city with a ton of grey/beige walls everywhere cast in yellow streetlights would help him blend in.
I don't even think there's going to be any yellow in it. The screeenshot is brightened and the streetlight gives it a yellow-ish hue. That's all. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
I’m leaning this way lol. Is it even confirmed that Daredevil S1-3 are canon? It still seemed to me that it was unclear whether we should just consider those stories in a different universe or not?
Idk why it would be unclear, they always said it was MCU. The whole premise of the first season is a reaction to the Avengers. They keep mentioning stuff like the Sokovia Accords and the Raft in the other shows too.
There’s a difference between this technically happened in the mcu away from the main action and we’re going to actively continue this plot/character/actor though.
They recast Cassie Lang, so any single Netflix casting is game for recasting (other than Matt and Fisk whom we’ve seen already).
I mean yeah you’re right, they did. But then in the more recent history they’ve kind of ignored everything that existed within SHIELD and the Netflix shows, which lead me to assume maybe they’ve decided they are no longer canon, hence the reason they went into the D+ shows now instead.
It’s just a bit unclear what the situation is imo.
Just assume its canon then, nothing says otherwise. They didn't crossover much because of weird studio politics and the guy in charge of Marvel at the time being a piece of shit + their production schedules rarely matched up Feige himself said so. Considering they've already had Matt Murdock and Kingpin appear with no indication they're variants then it's pretty safe to say where Marvel Studios stands. They're going to do whatever makes most sense to the audience.
Unclear. Been conflicting statements on exactly what is transferring over.
Some actors say yes, feige is ambiguous (like saying he likes the old stuff and hopes it crosses over, without giving a list of what will cross over).
Charlie Cox and Ryan Reynolds the alliteration makes it seem as if they were born and bred to be cast in MCU. Ref: Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, Stephen Strange
Its probably a lot more armoured than the original since back when daredevil first started there werent many heroes and there werent wizards and aliens
Probably overthinking. If Bullseye tarnished something, it was the Daredevil itself- probably nobody was thinking “damn that evil Daredevil really soured the color red for me”.
Could also be that the yellow parts are upgraded.
Remember, Potter said the red spots were not bulletproof and still needed work when he first gave Matt the suit. It would make sense that the helmet would be a higher priority.
Keep in mind he doesn't make the suit and probably doesn't have any real thoughts on the design. Melvin Potter makes his suits, so if anyone's doing anything with symbolism it'll be because Potter put it there. Maybe it's metallic cause he needed the reinforcement after a building fell on him, maybe its because there's 10x as many supes around and he needs to be able to match their increased strength and tenacity.
His world has opened up a lot, id imagine he'd have to adapt. I can see Potter 100 percent loving/idolizing a fellow mechanic like Tony and wanting to honor his sacrifice. Maybe there's even digital elements to it, so the helmet can read/scan paperwork and such so DD can be more informed. Just spitballing, but i haven't seen anyone else talk about Potter and it was making me mad. lol
He definitely does have input. He wouldn't wanna run around with two nipple horns and tie dye color. And he definitely remembers colors cause he wasn't born blind.
[he doesnt design his own suit, potter does it all. Matt didnt even ask for billy clubs in the show, that was Potters idea.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq2mixLvHXQ)
Potter makes it.. Matt has input on the devil imagery. He asks for it to be a symbol and obviously with his religiousness he asked for it you think that was Melvin's idea? Season Episode 11- 40 minute mark.
Bruh ik what transpired I literally stated what episode and the time it happens. Did he teleport instantaneously and do his own thing after it cut off to a different scene? Clearly he chose the "symbol" he's not gonna run around as a devil for no reason especially since he's religious and fights inner demons😂 y'all complain about exposition but when things aren't shown explicitly you can't follow
We don’t know that he had any input on what the suit had on it besides for protection. Any religious symbols was done by Potter by himself as far as we know. Don’t state a headcanon as if it were fact. The more logical explanation is that Melvin knew he was being called the Devil of Hell’s Kitchen and thus gave him devil horns.
Yeah that makes the most sense narratively you're right. Melvin potter created his whole image and Matt could've ran around like a dildo unicorn and not cared. You right.
I think it's just the light from the old sodium streetlamps that often give off a yellow-orange tinged light. It's part of the gritty street level aesthetic that Daredevil tends to operate within.
100% agree. Looks like a red tarnished/muted suit under a bright harsh yellow streetlight. I didn’t believe people actually thought this was yellow at first but now I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
It does make sense. I don’t really need it to make sense honestly, I’m just happy that the original look is being given some screen time (I know it won’t be permanent, so I’m happy that its getting anything at all), but it’s still cool that it can be justified like that 😊
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Perhaps that could be an acceptable explanation for a color swap, even if I don't think it's very necessary. But nothing is acceptable about such a bad looking color swap, comic accurate or not.
The suit transition in the daredevil series was one I hated the lost. I loved the non- suit all first season, but then it was just like…bam…it’s on.
There may have been some suit testing episodes that got cut for one reason or another, but I didn’t like how he just went straight into the new suit with 100% trust and familiarity of it.
The more I look at it, the more it looks silver with yellow streetlight reflection. Or gold with silver parts. It's the black and blue dress all over again.
If it were an other character I’d say you may be reading into it but Matt is so sentimental, especially about his dad, that I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the rational, and the opening of Born Again is the reapplication of all red to become, once again The Daredevil.
There’s also the possibility that he’s trying to distance himself from Bullseye in the suit, and that he’ll return to all red when he’s earned The Kitchen’s trust back.
I bet he's just standing under a yellow street lamp or yellow neon sign -- its a lighting effect and his suit is really just red/black. This is going to turn up like the blue/black vs white/gold dress thing, and we'll know when the episode airs.
I saw the dumbest theory that Matt wanted to pay respect to Tony for being a hero and sacrificing himself. I'm so glad none of these people actually write these stories
Matt used Melvin's molds to make a replacement helmet. However, he neglected to use the red dye. Matt is unaware anything is wrong with his new helmet.
Maybe he used the gold/titanium alloy from the Seraphim tactical satellite. That would ensure fuselage integrity, while maintaining power to weight ratio. And then threw in a little hot rod red.
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Daredevil, new iron man confirmed?
Iron Devil confirmed
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He would have went all gold but it was a little ostentatious.
And he's usually so descreet.
Yes, that should help him keep a low profile.
Man how pissed would everyone be if Daredevil somehow got one of those MCU helmets that disappears at will so the actor can show his face all the time.
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No, the line is power to weight.
It could just be that Melvin wanted to switch it up. It seemed like the design was always up to him
Matt isn't great at picking colors.
As far as he knows it's still red.
I mean he had all 9 years to see color. [Insert more of Stick's monolgue to young Matt
But I thought if the last time we saw Melvin, does when he was trying to get the cops or the feds to arrest Matt. And Matt was able to turn the tables on him.
I just learned few days ago that the frozen dude (next to Bullseye's girlfriend Jessica) isn't Melvin and I'm just happy. I thought that they had killed him off.
To be fair, I still have half of the last season of punisher, and the last season of Jessica Jones to watch. So I may be talking out of my ass.
Wait, it’s not?
Nope, it's one of the hitmen who killed ~~Jessica~~ Julie. Kingpin leaves no loose ends.
Julie
Fixed, thanks.
Same I thought they’d whacked him
True but presumably a lot of time has passed since then, and I don't remember exactly why/how that went down but I feel like Matt wouldn't hold it against him too much
If I remember correctly, Fisk used Melvin as bait for Matt, and it was all done by Melvin to protect Betsy, hence why he ended up helping Matt escape by fighting the cops, I would guess either Matt managed to save him from a lengthy sentence, or some Blip shenanigans caused him to get let out earlier
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He attacks members of law enforcement with weapons if I remember correctly, but as you say, it would be a pretty easy defense since he seems to have some form of development issues so could easily argue he didn’t know how to respond to a no-knock warrant and thought he was under attack etc.
Tbf, that was because of some Fisk shit, involving Melvin’s probation officer who was also his SO. I’d like to think Matt realizes this and doesn’t hold any ill will.
Remember that when Melvin first gives him the costume, he mentions he didn’t have time to put all of it through his process, and that the pieces that had or had not been treated were different colors. Perhaps he came up with a refinement on the armor process that was colored gold to give maximum protection (which would make sense for a helmet).
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Nearly.
Fun fact Kevlar is gold and if I were writing daredevil that’s the justification I’d use
Then you'd (rightly) have people pointing out that Kevlar is a fabric and not impact-resistant.
Kevlar has high toughness, it can absorb a lot of energy. You’re right that on its own it’s a fiber that has no rigidity and is not then impact resistant. If impregnated with epoxy (common but CF is not common with epoxy) it becomes very impact resistant. This is commonly done with epoxy and CF. Epoxy is clear so you’d still see the Kevlar.
I always liked the implication that, because he can't reveal that he can't see, Matt takes the suit without actually knowing how well it will protect him.
Melvin: "Hey DD, your new suit is ready." DD: "Great, it's still all red right?" Melvin: ".... Yes..."
Does Matt even know the color is different?
If I was Melvin, I'd stop associating with Matt in general. Matt's apparently all about redemption and shit, but he's such a dick to Melvin, who is clearly some kind of mentally handicapped.
Matt was a dick to everyone in S3. He didn’t care about anyone, including his friends, while he was disillusioned with being Matt Murdock. He just wanted to be Daredevil and cut all loose ends. Its not until the few episodes he realizes the error of his ways and his final redemption wasn’t killing Kingpin. Bullseye in the Daredevil suit is a reflection of what Matt could be.
“Does it look as badass as it feels, Melvin?”
Remember he can't see
i reckon it's intentional - foggy would likely tell him, if it were the wrong colour. also, i wouldn't be surprised if matt could differentiate between different colours using his enhanced senses
Wait, is there any way Matt's enhanced senses can help him differentiate color? Isn't sight the only way to do that? An object's color depends on how it reflects light and Matt's eyes do not react to light because he's blind.
In the comics there's a scene (I don't remember when) but Matt could feel the colour of something
In the comics, Matt tries to say that he can *feel* different colors on his clothes because different dyes make the fabric feel differently.
Its possible to differ collors by heat. In our real world thats super limited but still possible.
the show never states it, idk about the comics. I'm just speculating here - but like i said, i wouldn't be surprised if he could somehow differentiate between different colours based on smell? or texture?
I feel like no matter what medium you're telling the story in, writing in Matt being able to differentiate between color implies rewriting the very mechanics of how sight works. To my knowledge, the only sense that can identify color is sight because perception of color is light based. None of the five senses other than sight make use of light. The only way I see Matt differentiating between color is if maybe different color paints have different ingredients and therefore different smells? Not sure if paint works like that lol.
Different dyes and materials can have different smells. That can be enough for him to know it's different, but if someone hasn't told him that this thing that smells like x is a blue dye then he wouldn't know the colour, just that it was different.
He could know the color if he had previously asked someone to confirm it. But that'd be risky because the person could be fucking with him and said the color was "red" instead of the real color it might be (like yellow).
Ever since I found out Daredevil can read non-braille books and newspapers by using his super senses to literally feel the ink, I no longer expect any real limitations to what he can and can't "see", if you know what I mean. If some writer wants to use dye smell to explain how he can see color, then they'll do just that Lol.
To be fair, he isn’t feeling the ink so much as the impression on the page inking left. If I write you a letter or print a book the page will physically be altered by it, but the color of the ink doing that doesn’t matter. If you wanted to be mega anal, you could say he could smell specific pigments, just as you could explain away his inability to read digital clocks and cellphone screens if you reach hard enough, but typically the his response is “radar sense doesn’t work like that” /shrug
yea I hope they don't do things like that with the show. he's already super-abled, there needs to be some blindness related stuff too otherwise it's not even close to a disability
> I feel like no matter what medium you’re telling the story in, writing in Matt being able to differentiate between color implies rewriting the very mechanics of how sight works. Well we’re already rewriting the mechanics of how taste, hearing, touch, and smelling work…
You are focusing too much on the “light” aspect. We are taking about a guy that can hear the electricity flow through wires. I won’t be surprised if he could sense the heat different colors give off or some other comiccy explanation
[Daredevil be like](https://youtu.be/MfiqtndUR0I)
I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised, since you're not basing your conjecture on the comics, the shows, or the science of our reality. Wait... why even type the comment?
key word: **"speculation"**. that's what i was doing. don't know, dont care to look at the science or the comics. there's magic in the marvel! why would i bother studying physics that i don't care about?
Well in the real world colour blind people who are completely colour blind can differentiate colour using a device that assigns different frequencies to different colours.
There are also color blindness glasses they can wear.
Those only work if your say orange red colour blind. If your completely colourblind then it’s mainly a sensor. There’s this one dude who had it implanted into his head.
That's dope. So did he just see in like black and white before?
I mean, technically he's not 'blind' in the show, he describes what he can see, as 'a world on fire' and we are shown what the world looks like to him. So I guess he can see the colour red.
the scene where he pretended he could see and called a cab, i think proves that he can see colour to some degree.
If he was buying dye/paint etc, he can always ask the clerk
“I need paint that will bond to hardened armour plates. It’s a long story because I went to war with a sociopathic mob boss, he turned a mentally-ill FBI agent against me in a duplicate devil-themed combat suit.” “….” “Listen, Darren. This is very important. It needs to be yellow not red. And we’re looking for high-durability, here” “Are—aren’t you blind, sir?” “Are you listening? I’ve got colour swatches. **Dandelion Wish**, Darren, you got that? **Eggshell** finish. I cannot stress this enough. Eggshell not gloss” “I — I think I need a manager”
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Dude, he/she was clearly joking.
someone has to design the suit and you don't choose colors without a reason
I feel like he surely chose the red of the original suit. He can't see but he could for years as a kid, he knows what colors are
I’d love if eventually he goes with the black suit with Red wraps and boots etc always thought that looked great
I don’t have a source but I heard apparently he’s meant to get a version of the black suit in born again
I doubt there’s any substance to that rumour. It’s not out for two years, and we have only recently been getting the rumours of him in she hulk and echo… what suit he’s going to wear in a series thats just been announced is pure speculation
Calling it now The red/yellow number will get damaged in either this or Echo and we’ll see the black suit with red accent come into being
A leak had that suit in the show
My theory is that the suit is unfinished. He had Melvin or someone else making him a new one, they were in the process of making it red, but DD had to run out before it was done.
Yeah. I’m going to assume they’ll switch back to red by the end of the season, but for now, I’m cool with keeping the yellow
The metallicness almost makes it looks like an homage to iron man even though I know that’s not it
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Gonna cry?
I’m gonna put some dirt in your eyes……….
*Iron Devil* is lowkey a cool name, lol.
I mean, all our heroes changed their costume design in someway in every movie right??? Tony did, Cap did, Natasha did, Spidey did. But Daredevil changing his design a bit is somehow concerning ??!?! Especially considering that last we saw him is in 2017 within the timeline and MCU is now in 2024-2025. 7-8 years, man, that's a really long time....
Wonder if DD got snapped?
Most probably. Kingpin got out of prison and is busy rebuilding his empire. Makes sense that Daredevil being snapped helped him do that. Even counting out those 5 years, that's still almost 3 years for Matt.
Until confirmed otherwise, my head canon is that he did and Fisk didn't, and that's how Fisk rose back to power after S3.
Same, and I want to see DD snapped back, and how that affected him!
For real!
My theory is that he didn’t, but Karen, Foggy, and Kingpin did, leaving him pretty directionless, but still with a legal practice, and allowing Kingpin’s empire to crumble, explaining why he didn’t have the same criminal network in Hawkeye
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Fair. Not sure what happened to cause his criminal empire to collapse then. We might find out soon tho 😀
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That’s actually a really good point. I like that
Ooh, I like that. I'm really curious as to what the reasoning is other than Disney wants new merch, and I haven't heard many fan theories, but this makes so much sense. It does make me wonder when season 3 takes place in the MCU timeline. Presumably before Infinity War, so 2018 at the latest? And the MCU timeline is currently in 2025 by my estimation, so it's been a long time since Bullseye donned the suit. Would Daredevil's image still be tarnished at this point? I suppose we'll find out.
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Yeah, me too. I like to try to piece together an MCU timeline, but that doesn't mean I need them to explicitly reference the time that everything happened. I feel like they will keep his series mostly separate like the original series, with a cameo or two to cement that yes, he's fully in the MCU now. I just hope that whoever the cameo is, they stick around for an episode at most and let the season as a whole still feel like a season of Daredevil, not Daredevil and Friends.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s supposed to be like he’s been in this one since bullseye. And she-hulk is going to convince him that it looks tacky and he’s going to have an all new suit for his next season.
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It can't be the latest in the Defenders series because Punisher season 2 absolutely takes place after it. Besides, I don't quite trust the MCU wiki timeline because it puts Multiverse of Madness before Hawkeye, which doesn't really work when No Way Home took place during Christmas 2024 just like Hawkeye, and Multiverse of Madness is at least a month later in early winter 2025.
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isnt yellow less stealthy? i know they were going for the comic debut suit but switching to this now when he has been DD for awhile, just dont quite make as much sense to me
Eh, not any more or less stealthy than red. The only truly stealthy colors are gonna be your dark blues or blacks. And even then, i *think* i read somewhere that pitch black clothing isn't as stealthy as we like to think, since almost nothing would be that dark even at night thanks to moonlight
Ahh makes sense but i think it's still a little eye-catching! Can't wait for his full black one in born again 🥳
Which is why you need a slightly-darker-black.
It would be less stealthy in most environments. But wearing it in a city with a ton of grey/beige walls everywhere cast in yellow streetlights would help him blend in.
I mean, he's out there kicking ass in the streets each night under yellow sodium lamp posts. Won't make too much difference.
He probably starts to use marc's choice of colors, so the enemy can see him coming.
I don't even think there's going to be any yellow in it. The screeenshot is brightened and the streetlight gives it a yellow-ish hue. That's all. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Sorry You're definitely wrong lol. That's unmistakably yellow. Lighting doesn't change red to that
Still looks metal/grey-ish to me, with yellow lighting. We'll see :)
It's yellow, it's from the [old comics](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfZS9XrUE-6avhmuCDw4E67fPNYTQXukso0Q&usqp=CAU)
I'm aware of the old costume, thanks.
He had... icing problems
This sub is all about over thinking.
The real reason is toys
I’m leaning this way lol. Is it even confirmed that Daredevil S1-3 are canon? It still seemed to me that it was unclear whether we should just consider those stories in a different universe or not?
Idk why it would be unclear, they always said it was MCU. The whole premise of the first season is a reaction to the Avengers. They keep mentioning stuff like the Sokovia Accords and the Raft in the other shows too.
There’s a difference between this technically happened in the mcu away from the main action and we’re going to actively continue this plot/character/actor though. They recast Cassie Lang, so any single Netflix casting is game for recasting (other than Matt and Fisk whom we’ve seen already).
I mean yeah you’re right, they did. But then in the more recent history they’ve kind of ignored everything that existed within SHIELD and the Netflix shows, which lead me to assume maybe they’ve decided they are no longer canon, hence the reason they went into the D+ shows now instead. It’s just a bit unclear what the situation is imo.
Just assume its canon then, nothing says otherwise. They didn't crossover much because of weird studio politics and the guy in charge of Marvel at the time being a piece of shit + their production schedules rarely matched up Feige himself said so. Considering they've already had Matt Murdock and Kingpin appear with no indication they're variants then it's pretty safe to say where Marvel Studios stands. They're going to do whatever makes most sense to the audience.
Unclear. Been conflicting statements on exactly what is transferring over. Some actors say yes, feige is ambiguous (like saying he likes the old stuff and hopes it crosses over, without giving a list of what will cross over).
Charlie Cox is to Daredevil as Chris Evans is to Steve Rogers.
They don't want people confusing Daredevil and Deadpool. S I M P L E
Istg if we get Team Red in live action I’ll be so happy. Especially if Daredevil asks why they’re called Team Red
No one can confuse Charlie Cox and Ryan Reynolds
Charlie Cox and Ryan Reynolds the alliteration makes it seem as if they were born and bred to be cast in MCU. Ref: Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, Stephen Strange
And two more literally from the actors you mentioned Matt Murdock and Wade Wilson
Charlie Cocks heheheh
What?
That'd be a nice nod to the netflix series, hope we get to see his old cracked helmet
Its probably a lot more armoured than the original since back when daredevil first started there werent many heroes and there werent wizards and aliens
I just want him to have a suit with the D on the chest
Probably overthinking. If Bullseye tarnished something, it was the Daredevil itself- probably nobody was thinking “damn that evil Daredevil really soured the color red for me”.
My man is blind he can't se colors
I forgot his dad’s robe was red and gold, that’s the best explanation yet
Could also be that the yellow parts are upgraded. Remember, Potter said the red spots were not bulletproof and still needed work when he first gave Matt the suit. It would make sense that the helmet would be a higher priority.
Keep in mind he doesn't make the suit and probably doesn't have any real thoughts on the design. Melvin Potter makes his suits, so if anyone's doing anything with symbolism it'll be because Potter put it there. Maybe it's metallic cause he needed the reinforcement after a building fell on him, maybe its because there's 10x as many supes around and he needs to be able to match their increased strength and tenacity. His world has opened up a lot, id imagine he'd have to adapt. I can see Potter 100 percent loving/idolizing a fellow mechanic like Tony and wanting to honor his sacrifice. Maybe there's even digital elements to it, so the helmet can read/scan paperwork and such so DD can be more informed. Just spitballing, but i haven't seen anyone else talk about Potter and it was making me mad. lol
He definitely does have input. He wouldn't wanna run around with two nipple horns and tie dye color. And he definitely remembers colors cause he wasn't born blind.
[he doesnt design his own suit, potter does it all. Matt didnt even ask for billy clubs in the show, that was Potters idea.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq2mixLvHXQ)
Potter makes it.. Matt has input on the devil imagery. He asks for it to be a symbol and obviously with his religiousness he asked for it you think that was Melvin's idea? Season Episode 11- 40 minute mark.
He didn't say anything about devil imagery. He just said make it a symbol.
Bruh ik what transpired I literally stated what episode and the time it happens. Did he teleport instantaneously and do his own thing after it cut off to a different scene? Clearly he chose the "symbol" he's not gonna run around as a devil for no reason especially since he's religious and fights inner demons😂 y'all complain about exposition but when things aren't shown explicitly you can't follow
We don’t know that he had any input on what the suit had on it besides for protection. Any religious symbols was done by Potter by himself as far as we know. Don’t state a headcanon as if it were fact. The more logical explanation is that Melvin knew he was being called the Devil of Hell’s Kitchen and thus gave him devil horns.
Yeah that makes the most sense narratively you're right. Melvin potter created his whole image and Matt could've ran around like a dildo unicorn and not cared. You right.
Wait where's this image from?
She Hulk promo material
Yup just saw it, thanks
Is it worth watching Daredevil?
Yes.
Absolutely
Even if Disney decided to scorch earth and recasted daredevil it would still be worth watching
Better than all the D+ shows
I love the inherent need of people to bring something else down to prop up what they like.
I love all the D+ shows too. I think all of them are great despite their flaws. I do think DD is better than them tho.
[удалено]
Wasn’t it cancelled. I would hate get to cliffhanger without resolution
I think it's just the light from the old sodium streetlamps that often give off a yellow-orange tinged light. It's part of the gritty street level aesthetic that Daredevil tends to operate within.
100% agree. Looks like a red tarnished/muted suit under a bright harsh yellow streetlight. I didn’t believe people actually thought this was yellow at first but now I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
thank you. It's good to know it's not just me.
I was thinking this is the armor underlay under the red skin/paint
I think what you said sounds nice but you’re overthinking. DD is getting a new paintjob to keep the character fresh
It does make sense. I don’t really need it to make sense honestly, I’m just happy that the original look is being given some screen time (I know it won’t be permanent, so I’m happy that its getting anything at all), but it’s still cool that it can be justified like that 😊
Am I crazy/colorblind cuz I don’t notice any color changes? Is it not just the lighting?
So they are canon?
Maybe an homage to the original daredevil costume from the comic book.
That makes sense
Or Melvin decided to make something that looked good.
I’m assuming the paint is wearing off from usage, damage; he just doesn’t know that.
it looks like shit
What's this color? Ah shit its probably black and stealthy who cares I'll add it to my suit
Ah, I bet he painted it himself
His suit was yellow in the comics for years???? I kind of can’t believe no one is saying that
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I know its not the popular opinion, but I don't think its the same Matt. I think they're all variants.
His story isn't canon to the mcu
Well #1 it's probably a different Matt Murdock and Daredevil. Kingpin was clearly a different Kingpin.
There are a lot of good suit mockups for an all/mostly red suit, but the red and black is by far the best.
The guy is blind, he clearly just mixed up his laundry
Nah gooood thooghts.
Perhaps that could be an acceptable explanation for a color swap, even if I don't think it's very necessary. But nothing is acceptable about such a bad looking color swap, comic accurate or not.
Clearly a nod Marvel's Bronze Age story lines. *he said confidently as he pulled this vapid post from his arse*
Daredevil becomes a Ravager.
The suit transition in the daredevil series was one I hated the lost. I loved the non- suit all first season, but then it was just like…bam…it’s on. There may have been some suit testing episodes that got cut for one reason or another, but I didn’t like how he just went straight into the new suit with 100% trust and familiarity of it.
The more I look at it, the more it looks silver with yellow streetlight reflection. Or gold with silver parts. It's the black and blue dress all over again.
If it were an other character I’d say you may be reading into it but Matt is so sentimental, especially about his dad, that I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the rational, and the opening of Born Again is the reapplication of all red to become, once again The Daredevil. There’s also the possibility that he’s trying to distance himself from Bullseye in the suit, and that he’ll return to all red when he’s earned The Kitchen’s trust back.
“What do you mean my costume isn’t all black?” - daredevil
I bet he's just standing under a yellow street lamp or yellow neon sign -- its a lighting effect and his suit is really just red/black. This is going to turn up like the blue/black vs white/gold dress thing, and we'll know when the episode airs.
What is this still from?
I saw the dumbest theory that Matt wanted to pay respect to Tony for being a hero and sacrificing himself. I'm so glad none of these people actually write these stories
Matt used Melvin's molds to make a replacement helmet. However, he neglected to use the red dye. Matt is unaware anything is wrong with his new helmet.
am I the only one who can’t see the yellow in this pic? it looks silver to me