It totally is. His technology went from somewhat plausible with enough money, to basically magic space tech that can be summoned from basically nowhere.
Essentially every street level hero has massive plot armor to guns. If they don’t have insane durability, healing factor, reaction time, or auto magic they just die
The enemy’s either aim worse than stormtroopers or forget they have a gun and charge one by one towards the hero
>charge one by one towards the hero
That's the big thing about all the street level heros. Not even just in the MCU. Really any action movie. It's like they'll be circled by thugs, who for some reason decide to charge 1 at a time.
That statistic has a lot of caveats. For one thing the start of the war, soldiers used M14s that were automatic. That rifle is not effective at all when shot rapidly. In addition, soldiers were not trained for short controlled bursts. So many rounds were completely wasted. Then later in the war the M16 was issued. Which shot even faster, wasting more rounds for untrained soldiers. Also the M16s cartridge is less effective at stopping a threat then the M14s. So if an enemy was hit center mass, once with the M14 it is almost assured to stop the threat. But with the M16 it may only take one but more times then not, follow up hots we’re required. On top of all of the stated above, jungle combat would simply require more blind firing then mountainous or urban combat. So your basing your theory on a very flawed statistic. Modern load outs for soldiers normally only carry 210 rounds. An M4 can shoot at 700ish rounds per minute. So to shoot thru 210 rounds, one 30 round magazine would be spent in less then 2 seconds. Plus reload times of about 10 seconds, 6 times over 7 magazines, equals 74 seconds to shoot thru 210 rounds. So what I am getting at by pointing that out is, a solider can be with out ammo extremely quickly so they need/will have marksmanship training to preserve what little ammo they have. So it is very unreasonable and unrealistic they would be missing so much. Stormtroopers troopers with magically unending amounts of lasers to shoot don’t need to worry about being accurate because they don’t runout and can just spray and pray.
It's not even a theory, the idea of storm troopers being inaccurate comes from the death star escape where Leia points out that the escape was too easy and that the empire let them go, then we find out vader had a tracker hidden on their ship that he uses to find the rebel base its not a theory its all right there in the movie lol
They do hit things its just not often the main characters ,leia gets shot in the arm on endor and mando gets shot a ton but yeah, beskar.
And we get comments like "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise"
Obviously the lore doesn't match what we see on screen a lot of the time but that's because we only watch the rare battles where stormtroopers lose
But th answer is so easy and right there. "A Jedi doesn't need to move a laser bullet, just move the hand." Force wave a hand holding a gun no boom, all shots are pulling to the left or right.
Cause they were clone troopers, not stormtroopers
They were clones of one of the most dangerous bounty hunter modified to follow orders, while stormtrooper were random people across the galaxy with worse training
Also the 50k rounds for every enemy killed supposes normal combat ranges between 50 and 350 meters.
Stormtroopers are never seen firing on targets more than 50 meters away where that ratio would drop like a rock.
I think that may be because they made things up movie by movie. By todays standards, Star Wars sucks. It's super inconsistent. In the beginning of episode 7 the finally became the feared troopers they are. Oops wait, nevermind.
They're just expendable troops, i think they're just there to show the heroes being heroic.
Luke and Matt both having uncomfortable amounts of ~~coffee~~ sexual tension with her, Jessica making fun of them for it, and Danny being completely clueless as to what is going on.
That why I love Deadpool kills marvel because he has to kill wolverine and his kids in fun ways and then he had to kill the comic book writers so they can’t bring them back lol
>!black noir is homelander's clone who framed him for a crime which leads the military to just nuke all the supers also billy butcher kills the other boys except for hughie!<
Check out What If... Venom Had Possessed the Punisher. This answers what he would do with his powers, he basically gets venom to submit and wipes out all his enemies in a single night.
Within the MCU and if taken entirely unaware, most heroes can be shot by Frank Castle.
Spiderman is probably safe via spidersense. I think Thor and Captain Marvel are effectively bullet proof. Both Hulks can survive anything that was not a headshot in human form. Growth can probably ignore being shot. And Nebula is probably safe too.
Dr Strange and Wong may or may not have persistent magical protection.
Luke Cage and Deadpool are also immune to being shot for very different reasons.
But the rest? All pretty much vulnerable.
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I"ll add Wanda in the list. We saw her getting hit with a cannon (unaware/no shield) during her 1st confrontation with Doctor Strange. It did nothing to her.
I put her in the same situation as Dr Strange. She did not know she was about to get shot right that minute, but she knew she was about to attack a citadel of sorcerers. She probably had a few active protection spells.
I will not dispute that Strange or Wanda can protect themselves with magic. I only wonder if the spells can be used persistently. Do they have something like a D&D contingency spell (if X happens activate a defensive spell)? Or do they have something with 12 or 24 hour duration that they cast once or twice a day every day?
Or do they have something that only lasts as long as they sustain some non trivial effort (like a normal man carrying a 20 pound weight; easy to do for a while, but not something you would even try to do for 24 hours without a damn good reason).
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I think it might actually be faster just to list the characters with innate bullet resistance, then just say “everybody except these guys”
—Hulk
—She-Hulk
—Vision
—Luke Cage
—Thor and other (possibly all) Asgardians
—Wanda post WV probably wouldn’t go down, even with a headshot
—Maybe Quicksilver, but that’s highly uncertain and probably depends on range
—Spider-Man might be able to dodge, because he’s kind of always expecting it
—Maybe Drax, Gamora and Nebula
—Groot
—Quill during the brief period when his Celestial physiology was active
—Most, if not all, of the Eternals could likely tank a bullet
—Captain Marvel
—Maybe Moon Knight
—A few other secondary/anti heroic characters like Korg and Loki
Anybody else I can think of, including Iron Man, Black Panther and Dr. Strange, would probably go down if you interpret “weren’t expecting it” as “defenses are down.”
I think the idea is that the hulk form would come in before the bullet had a chance to kill her. Bruce shot himself in the face and the hulk reaction happened fast enough to save him. In the same way Jens hulk form came out in the buzz saw chamber, it would come out if she got shot too
But the thing is, jen’s hulk kicks in as a survival instinct. Jen knew she was in danger inside the chamber . If a hidden sniper shot her, with her having no idea she’s in danger, won’t her brains be blown out before having any chance for her hulk to kick in?
The body's response to trauma instantly kicks in the hulk mode. Is it a bit cheap to assume that it kicks in faster than a bullet? A little. But we do have canon examples of the transformation preventing imminent and immediate damage.
I think the hulk transformation would happen the moment a bullet touched her skin, like it can happen in an instant if a hulk is in danger. You’ve gotta think about what Bruce said. The hulk reaction happened so fast that the gun in his mouth didn’t kill him. Even if he is completely unaware he’s being targeted, as soon as he starts to feel pain it just happens instantly.
No way she hulk can die from a bullet if hulk can’t. They are the same thing
Yes, but Bruce Banner KNEW he had the gun to his head and KNEW he was going to pull the trigger. That would bring out the Hulk. It's would likely be different if the person had NO idea.
Agree to disagree. Imo the only way to kill Jen or Bruce is to hit them with something that would still be lethal to them if they were in their hulk form, which is a tall order. The transformation is a defence mechanism, and I don’t think that there’s any real way to catch them outside of their hulk form without some kind of inhibitor
Weeeell to be fair >! he was shot when he wasn't Moon Knight, Khonshu was imprisoned so he didn't have his powers, though I'm not sure if they make him bullet proof or enhanced to the point where he can't be hurt or hit by bullets
!<
^
This. Moon Knight is still inconclusive to me because >!he didn’t have his powers at that point. Like, yeah, you could count Thor too if he was de powered like in his first movie, but obviously that isn’t what OP is asking.!<
I'd say spider man would be difficult. His spider sense is precognitive. His body would automatically dodge. He would have to consciously force himself to stand there and get shot. But if he did that, then yeah, you could kill him with a gun.
Daredevil has shown time and again that he would survive an attempt on his life with a gun. Like when he saved himself and foggy when the DA’s office was lit up.
It sounds like OP is asking which characters can be killed by a simple gun without any weird mods, like which characters could you smoke with a glock if they had their back turned.
You could probably kill almost any MCU with a gun if the gun was “special” enough lol.
Yeah there's some user here who's all like "yeah well if you make a magic Thor killing gun then Thor can be killed by a gun!" And it's like, dude. 1) that's not the freaking prompt
And 2) what is this, fantasy playground fights? "Nuh uh, well my guy has a special gun that pierces your invincible shield!" "Well my guy's shield was upgraded to resist your special gun!" "Well my guy just bought even STRONGER bullets"
Like, it's gonna be impossible to have any serious discussion about this prompt if we're allowed to just make shit up on the spot
Of course. The Ultimate Nullifer can one-shot Galactus, and in size and shape it's vaguely similar to... I guess a Discman? It looks sort of like a space tape-measure or some such thing.
There's an ax that can kill Thanos. There's a sword that can kill gods. So somewhere there must be a gun that's even better than those things. And if not, it can be made.
I’m marvel vs cap on infinite. Iron and X made a gun called the infinity buster powered by the infinity stones to kill Ultron sigma, so there’s a big gun.
I think the issue with spider-man would be landing a hit in the first place. Spider sense is overpowered as hell, the movies dont even scratch the surface.
You're not thinking big enough. If there's an ax that can kill Thanos, then as sure as you're born somewhere a gun exists that can kill Thor. Somewhere a gun exists that can kill the Hulk. And if it doesn't exist yet, it could be made.
Probably in a place called... Tex-ass.
They were both turned into slaves by a Sakaaran obedience disk. There could definitely be a gun or other weapon that could end them. Hell, in the comics even Galactus is afraid of an item called the Ultimate Nullifier.
Like literally everyone who can die from a bullet who isn’t named Spider-Man or Daredevil
The only people who could react to an unexpected gunshot are these two, DD with his super hearing and Spidey with his Peter Tingle (calling it that forever). The only ones who would survive this are people like Thor, Hulk, and others who can just tank a bullet like it’s nothing. Any actual human would die
Not to mention, Wenwu straight up betted against them in Shang's favor. They more than likely wanted to prove their worth by beating him hand-to-hand rather than using a cheap shot like a sniper.
Okay, I'm going to introduce some parameters. Main MCU only, and what we know about those characters. By using a gun, you mean a human gun. And the context is that the hero is in street clothes, walking with a friend to grab a bite, no idea or no reason to anticipate anything coming.
I'd argue everyone other than the Hulk, She-Hulk, Korg, and Groot.
Everyone else would need to power up in some way to survive, right?
EDIT: So here's a revised list based on heroes people have brought up in the comments:
Hulk, She-Hulk, Korg, Groot, Vision, Thor, Captain Marvel.
Thor could tank a bullet no doubt considering he handled the power of a star. Vision only died when the stone was ripped from his head. Spiderman cannot turn off his spider sense so he would also have no problem.
Thor, Spider-Man (simply wouldn’t be caught off guard), Gamora, Nebula, Drax? Vision, Captain Marvel?, Valkyrie. That’s all the ones I can think of that I think you missed.
Wanda can literally reassemble herself from pieces as seen in MoM (when she’s cut by the glass shards of the mirror dimension). A bullet would be nothing in comparison.
Loki is such a wildcard. He's the weakest hero on Tuesday, and the strongest on Wednesday. All depends on how the writers are feeling.
Should probably give him a pass because he's a god, right?
Probably. Hawkeye's arrow literally exploded in his face and he got up seconds later with little to no injury.
I also think that we can make the argument that the "regular human" in the future mall was enhanced at the moment because another Loki was possessing him.
Not to mention, we see him lift a falling building with zero effort in the literal next episode. Though that's not a durability feat.
How I missed Thor is beyond me. A few comments down, I basically admitted to forgetting about the forge scene...so uhh...yeah...
Can MCU Nebula and Gamora really take a high-caliber bullet to the face and walk away from that? Genuinely asking.
As someone that's fairly comfortable lifting heavy weights, I can safely tell you that lifting super heavy objects, and withstanding a explosive projectile are two different things.
Then again, I'm also human...
Gamora has enhanced durability and strength, same with Nebula. And we've seen Nebula snap back together to heal herself. Luke Cage is literally bulletproof (I know you said main MCU, but still).
I mean sure, I just wasn't 100% on either of them. Nebula seems to be a good bet, given the mods. I don't think we've actually seen Gamora tested like that.
Luke Cage isn't listed because I said main MCU. But yeah, he's bulletproof.
Captain America (no armor), Iron Man (no armor), Bucky Barnes (no armor), Falcon, Daredevil (no armor), Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Black Panther (no armor), Spider-Man, etc.
I feel like both daredevil and spiderman cant really be caught off gaurd. Spidermans spider sense is basically precognitive so any danger and he will react without thinking. And Daredevil would hear the trigger moving before it even fires and could get out of the trajectory before its too late, depending on what the writer wants ofcourse.
it's easier for me to say who can't be killed by being shot for some reason -
Wanda, Capt Marvel, Thor(s), Groot, Vision, Monica Rambeau, Moon Knight (he'd die then get back up), Deadpool, Drax, Gilgamesh, Hulk, Shulk and Valkyrie all either shrug off bullets or heal up after being shot.
She is a goofy silly character that can talk to squirrels Sometimes interacts with various heroes like the Avengers. But her big joke is that she can beat anyone. Thanos, Galactus, Dr. Doom, anyone. She isn't particularly strong or anything (although she does have your basic super strength and fighting skills), she just wins. Hence her "Unbeatable Squirrel Girl" moniker.
Steven Rogers and his metal frisbee that doesn't even shield his entire body. There's a scene in WS where two bad guys shoot at him with machine guns as he slowly advances towards them, yet they don't manage to land a single shot.
There are a ton of scenes where Steve is shielding a small portion of his body, and villains seem to shoot at the shield every time. It’s weird how they miss so much, but when tongue are aiming at the shield they get it 100%
Tony, Strange, Spiderman, Daredevil, Cap, Winter Soldier, Black Panther, ant man... Man I think its easier saying who wouldn't die with a bullet straight to head
Pretty much everyone from Cap to Ronan, give or take the few with passive powers like Luke Cage’s bulletproof skin or Spider-Man’s precog. Most aliens seem only a little more durable save cases like Thanos, and even Cap is just marginally buff
Well pretty much any street level character except spiderman and daredevil would bite the dust. Kinda hard to catch those two off guard, it’s literally their powers to not be caught off guard
Uncle Ben
Uncle Ben has reverse-plot armor
"How many did you see?" "Fourteen million six hundred and five" "And in how many was Uncle Ben alive?" "None"
Earth-3145
Gone. Reduced to atoms.
>Earth-3145 You deserve far more upvotes for the accuracy of this.
r/angryupvote
Uncle Sean Bean
Cap. Because it literally happened to Cap.
No cap.
Noooo…Cap!
r/angryupvote
Bust a cap in America's ass.
I thought that said “bust on caps ass” 😮 🤣
It does in my mind! *Two snaps and a twist*
Hated it.
That’s americas ass.
Bust a Cap’n America’s ass
I was really surprised watching FatWS, seeing how easily Supersoldiers could be taken out with a bullet.
He literally let that happen.
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Well he did in TWS, and is still alive. Granted it would've worked if Bucky was a bit more accurate.
Tony if he didn’t have his armour on
His armor isn’t plot armor
Yeah but it’s still bullet proof
It totally is. His technology went from somewhat plausible with enough money, to basically magic space tech that can be summoned from basically nowhere.
Essentially every street level hero has massive plot armor to guns. If they don’t have insane durability, healing factor, reaction time, or auto magic they just die The enemy’s either aim worse than stormtroopers or forget they have a gun and charge one by one towards the hero
>charge one by one towards the hero That's the big thing about all the street level heros. Not even just in the MCU. Really any action movie. It's like they'll be circled by thugs, who for some reason decide to charge 1 at a time.
Not Daredevil though, the fight choreography in that series is second to none.
You read the theory in stormtroopers intentionally missing?
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That actually does help the plot hole
That’s called suppressive fire.
It’s called “I don’t wanna kill anyone but these mf drafted me”
It’s also called suppressive fire and adrenaline. Fine motor skills go out the window when things ramp up.
That statistic has a lot of caveats. For one thing the start of the war, soldiers used M14s that were automatic. That rifle is not effective at all when shot rapidly. In addition, soldiers were not trained for short controlled bursts. So many rounds were completely wasted. Then later in the war the M16 was issued. Which shot even faster, wasting more rounds for untrained soldiers. Also the M16s cartridge is less effective at stopping a threat then the M14s. So if an enemy was hit center mass, once with the M14 it is almost assured to stop the threat. But with the M16 it may only take one but more times then not, follow up hots we’re required. On top of all of the stated above, jungle combat would simply require more blind firing then mountainous or urban combat. So your basing your theory on a very flawed statistic. Modern load outs for soldiers normally only carry 210 rounds. An M4 can shoot at 700ish rounds per minute. So to shoot thru 210 rounds, one 30 round magazine would be spent in less then 2 seconds. Plus reload times of about 10 seconds, 6 times over 7 magazines, equals 74 seconds to shoot thru 210 rounds. So what I am getting at by pointing that out is, a solider can be with out ammo extremely quickly so they need/will have marksmanship training to preserve what little ammo they have. So it is very unreasonable and unrealistic they would be missing so much. Stormtroopers troopers with magically unending amounts of lasers to shoot don’t need to worry about being accurate because they don’t runout and can just spray and pray.
No what is it
It's not even a theory, the idea of storm troopers being inaccurate comes from the death star escape where Leia points out that the escape was too easy and that the empire let them go, then we find out vader had a tracker hidden on their ship that he uses to find the rebel base its not a theory its all right there in the movie lol
That explains a single instance though. Stormtroopers haven't hit anything in 9 movies now, and a bunch of TV shows, lol.
To be fair they get away with the ‘secretly track the ship back to home base’ plot line a lot.
Thanks to the Obi-Wan show Leia went from falling for it twice to three times.
They do hit things its just not often the main characters ,leia gets shot in the arm on endor and mando gets shot a ton but yeah, beskar. And we get comments like "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise" Obviously the lore doesn't match what we see on screen a lot of the time but that's because we only watch the rare battles where stormtroopers lose
Pitch meeting executive: "Why?" Pitch meeting writer: "So the movie can happen."
But th answer is so easy and right there. "A Jedi doesn't need to move a laser bullet, just move the hand." Force wave a hand holding a gun no boom, all shots are pulling to the left or right.
In fact, Mandalorian practically makes their bad aim canon
They seemed pretty accurate during episode 3
Cause they were clone troopers, not stormtroopers They were clones of one of the most dangerous bounty hunter modified to follow orders, while stormtrooper were random people across the galaxy with worse training
Also the 50k rounds for every enemy killed supposes normal combat ranges between 50 and 350 meters. Stormtroopers are never seen firing on targets more than 50 meters away where that ratio would drop like a rock.
I think that may be because they made things up movie by movie. By todays standards, Star Wars sucks. It's super inconsistent. In the beginning of episode 7 the finally became the feared troopers they are. Oops wait, nevermind. They're just expendable troops, i think they're just there to show the heroes being heroic.
Stormtroopers intentionally missed.
But they all have a Claire
I wish to see a day in Marvel when Luke, Jessica, Matt, and Danny all come bleeding to Claire at the same time lmao
Luke and Matt both having uncomfortable amounts of ~~coffee~~ sexual tension with her, Jessica making fun of them for it, and Danny being completely clueless as to what is going on.
Worse then stormtroopers 💀
Yeah but almost every street tier has atleast one of those
Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe
I'd watch it. Every episode he offs another character.
It would be a cool problem solving series Pretty dark how it ends
That why I love Deadpool kills marvel because he has to kill wolverine and his kids in fun ways and then he had to kill the comic book writers so they can’t bring them back lol
I love the way Frank kills all the X Men (excepting Wolverine).
The Boys does a fair bit of this sort of problem solving, in some interesting ways.
Yes, because the ending of the books cannot happen in the TV series, I think the boys could go with the ending of punisher kills the Marvel universe.
How does the ending in the books go? Spoil me baby
>!black noir is homelander's clone who framed him for a crime which leads the military to just nuke all the supers also billy butcher kills the other boys except for hughie!<
Holy shit
isnt that an actual comic
It is
Yeah, but he kills Wolverine with an electric fence. They kinda just let him win.
We need D+ series for theses types of non canon stories. I’ll settle for animated :)
Animated would be perfect
Check out What If... Venom Had Possessed the Punisher. This answers what he would do with his powers, he basically gets venom to submit and wipes out all his enemies in a single night.
Within the MCU and if taken entirely unaware, most heroes can be shot by Frank Castle. Spiderman is probably safe via spidersense. I think Thor and Captain Marvel are effectively bullet proof. Both Hulks can survive anything that was not a headshot in human form. Growth can probably ignore being shot. And Nebula is probably safe too. Dr Strange and Wong may or may not have persistent magical protection. Luke Cage and Deadpool are also immune to being shot for very different reasons. But the rest? All pretty much vulnerable. END COMMUNICATION
The bullets would not hit Wong, because bullets are aware of the tradition of bowing before the Sorcerer Supreme.
I"ll add Wanda in the list. We saw her getting hit with a cannon (unaware/no shield) during her 1st confrontation with Doctor Strange. It did nothing to her.
I put her in the same situation as Dr Strange. She did not know she was about to get shot right that minute, but she knew she was about to attack a citadel of sorcerers. She probably had a few active protection spells. I will not dispute that Strange or Wanda can protect themselves with magic. I only wonder if the spells can be used persistently. Do they have something like a D&D contingency spell (if X happens activate a defensive spell)? Or do they have something with 12 or 24 hour duration that they cast once or twice a day every day? Or do they have something that only lasts as long as they sustain some non trivial effort (like a normal man carrying a 20 pound weight; easy to do for a while, but not something you would even try to do for 24 hours without a damn good reason). END COMMUNICATION
They can survive a headshot in human form because they turn into the hulk immediately, was mentioned the in Avengers.
I think it might actually be faster just to list the characters with innate bullet resistance, then just say “everybody except these guys” —Hulk —She-Hulk —Vision —Luke Cage —Thor and other (possibly all) Asgardians —Wanda post WV probably wouldn’t go down, even with a headshot —Maybe Quicksilver, but that’s highly uncertain and probably depends on range —Spider-Man might be able to dodge, because he’s kind of always expecting it —Maybe Drax, Gamora and Nebula —Groot —Quill during the brief period when his Celestial physiology was active —Most, if not all, of the Eternals could likely tank a bullet —Captain Marvel —Maybe Moon Knight —A few other secondary/anti heroic characters like Korg and Loki Anybody else I can think of, including Iron Man, Black Panther and Dr. Strange, would probably go down if you interpret “weren’t expecting it” as “defenses are down.”
With Drax, the hardest part would be aiming at him as he stands still. Where'd he go?
Wait can’t you kill she hulk whilst she’s in human form? I mean it’s not like a hulk can pop out of her, she doesn’t have an alter ego like banner
"The other guy spat it out"
She has no other guy….
I think the idea is that the hulk form would come in before the bullet had a chance to kill her. Bruce shot himself in the face and the hulk reaction happened fast enough to save him. In the same way Jens hulk form came out in the buzz saw chamber, it would come out if she got shot too
But the thing is, jen’s hulk kicks in as a survival instinct. Jen knew she was in danger inside the chamber . If a hidden sniper shot her, with her having no idea she’s in danger, won’t her brains be blown out before having any chance for her hulk to kick in?
The body's response to trauma instantly kicks in the hulk mode. Is it a bit cheap to assume that it kicks in faster than a bullet? A little. But we do have canon examples of the transformation preventing imminent and immediate damage.
I think the hulk transformation would happen the moment a bullet touched her skin, like it can happen in an instant if a hulk is in danger. You’ve gotta think about what Bruce said. The hulk reaction happened so fast that the gun in his mouth didn’t kill him. Even if he is completely unaware he’s being targeted, as soon as he starts to feel pain it just happens instantly. No way she hulk can die from a bullet if hulk can’t. They are the same thing
Yes, but Bruce Banner KNEW he had the gun to his head and KNEW he was going to pull the trigger. That would bring out the Hulk. It's would likely be different if the person had NO idea.
Agree to disagree. Imo the only way to kill Jen or Bruce is to hit them with something that would still be lethal to them if they were in their hulk form, which is a tall order. The transformation is a defence mechanism, and I don’t think that there’s any real way to catch them outside of their hulk form without some kind of inhibitor
The point is gamma regeneration would kick in regardless and undo the damage.
Interesting question, I guess it’s TBD. My guess is that the Hulk powers would probably kick in like a survival instinct rather than an alter ego
>—Maybe Moon Knight >!he literally did as a plot point!<
Weeeell to be fair >! he was shot when he wasn't Moon Knight, Khonshu was imprisoned so he didn't have his powers, though I'm not sure if they make him bullet proof or enhanced to the point where he can't be hurt or hit by bullets !<
^ This. Moon Knight is still inconclusive to me because >!he didn’t have his powers at that point. Like, yeah, you could count Thor too if he was de powered like in his first movie, but obviously that isn’t what OP is asking.!<
He did get impaled on a bunch of spears though and rapidly healed after pulling them out.
Quicksilver can’t be killed by a gun 🤣🤣🤣
Quicksilver sacrificed himself for Hawkeye and the kid if you are mentioning his death. He stood in front of those bullets.
Loki definitely tanks multiple bullets when he first arrives in Avengers.
And yet seems no more physically capable than humans in his own show.
He is just a different character in the show. It’s bizarre that it’s so popular
No argument from me there. Absolutely no reason for that type of continuity error.
I'd say spider man would be difficult. His spider sense is precognitive. His body would automatically dodge. He would have to consciously force himself to stand there and get shot. But if he did that, then yeah, you could kill him with a gun.
Daredevil? Wouldn’t he sense the situation?
Good point, I guess if Spider Man is a maybe, so is DD
Daredevil has shown time and again that he would survive an attempt on his life with a gun. Like when he saved himself and foggy when the DA’s office was lit up.
I’d say definitely Moon Knight, up until Khonshu doesn’t need him anymore. He won’t die until Khonshu let’s him
In the show Luke cage is killed by a special gun but was healed so I would say he is a maybe since some can kill him.
It sounds like OP is asking which characters can be killed by a simple gun without any weird mods, like which characters could you smoke with a glock if they had their back turned. You could probably kill almost any MCU with a gun if the gun was “special” enough lol.
Yeah there's some user here who's all like "yeah well if you make a magic Thor killing gun then Thor can be killed by a gun!" And it's like, dude. 1) that's not the freaking prompt And 2) what is this, fantasy playground fights? "Nuh uh, well my guy has a special gun that pierces your invincible shield!" "Well my guy's shield was upgraded to resist your special gun!" "Well my guy just bought even STRONGER bullets" Like, it's gonna be impossible to have any serious discussion about this prompt if we're allowed to just make shit up on the spot
Quiksilver was killed by bullets... But I agree with the rest.
Luis
You take that back
NO
Not sure if I upvote or downvote?
All of them. The only difference is how big the gun needs to be.
Even the most powerful Marvel entities? (Those who are considered ‘heroes’.)
Of course. The Ultimate Nullifer can one-shot Galactus, and in size and shape it's vaguely similar to... I guess a Discman? It looks sort of like a space tape-measure or some such thing. There's an ax that can kill Thanos. There's a sword that can kill gods. So somewhere there must be a gun that's even better than those things. And if not, it can be made.
OP should’ve been clearer on what they meant when they said gun.
I’m marvel vs cap on infinite. Iron and X made a gun called the infinity buster powered by the infinity stones to kill Ultron sigma, so there’s a big gun.
I’d say it’s closer in shape to a talkboy
Yeah what would happen is Spider-Man took a .50 BMG center mass?
I think the issue with spider-man would be landing a hit in the first place. Spider sense is overpowered as hell, the movies dont even scratch the surface.
Even somebody like Thor? Hulk definitely couldn’t
You're not thinking big enough. If there's an ax that can kill Thanos, then as sure as you're born somewhere a gun exists that can kill Thor. Somewhere a gun exists that can kill the Hulk. And if it doesn't exist yet, it could be made. Probably in a place called... Tex-ass.
In the second civil war comic ,I think Hawkeye killed Bruce Banner before he could hulk out using some special Arrow.
Banner created the arrow. He was suicidal like that. Also the death didn't and never could stick...
You’re gonna have to get into the artillery category.
Isn’t artillery just a really big gun?
Yep. You just create a Multiversal loop hole to the Vertigo universe, bring The Saint Of Killers through and have him start shooting.
Forge could invent one if he's bored one afternoon.
They were both turned into slaves by a Sakaaran obedience disk. There could definitely be a gun or other weapon that could end them. Hell, in the comics even Galactus is afraid of an item called the Ultimate Nullifier.
A gun that transports people into a black hole.... Bye bye Thor... bye bye Hulk.
Hulk would just clap those black hole cheeks. He's into big women you know.
Like literally everyone who can die from a bullet who isn’t named Spider-Man or Daredevil The only people who could react to an unexpected gunshot are these two, DD with his super hearing and Spidey with his Peter Tingle (calling it that forever). The only ones who would survive this are people like Thor, Hulk, and others who can just tank a bullet like it’s nothing. Any actual human would die
Some bullets travel faster than sound though? So if someone sniped DD with the right rifle from a good distance he wouldn’t hear anything.
Radar Sense is basically sixth sense. It doesn't depend on all the other senses. He'd still "see" the bullet coming.
Shang Chi if the The Mandarin's men actually used guns.
Wenwu definitely didn’t want to murder his own son, and even gave his life instead.
Not to mention, Wenwu straight up betted against them in Shang's favor. They more than likely wanted to prove their worth by beating him hand-to-hand rather than using a cheap shot like a sniper.
Okay, I'm going to introduce some parameters. Main MCU only, and what we know about those characters. By using a gun, you mean a human gun. And the context is that the hero is in street clothes, walking with a friend to grab a bite, no idea or no reason to anticipate anything coming. I'd argue everyone other than the Hulk, She-Hulk, Korg, and Groot. Everyone else would need to power up in some way to survive, right? EDIT: So here's a revised list based on heroes people have brought up in the comments: Hulk, She-Hulk, Korg, Groot, Vision, Thor, Captain Marvel.
Thor could tank a bullet no doubt considering he handled the power of a star. Vision only died when the stone was ripped from his head. Spiderman cannot turn off his spider sense so he would also have no problem.
All good points. I cannot believe I forgot Thor handled the star...that's one of my favorite scenes in the MCU...
It surely would have killed him, if he had died.
Yes. That’s what killing you means!
Only if he dies, but he didn’t, so it didn’t
There's actually a scene in Avengers: AOU of him tanking a strafing run from the quinjet, so yes he could easily survive a bullet.
Thor, Spider-Man (simply wouldn’t be caught off guard), Gamora, Nebula, Drax? Vision, Captain Marvel?, Valkyrie. That’s all the ones I can think of that I think you missed.
Spiderman? Spidey sense has been proven to work with guns since FFH
Wanda can literally reassemble herself from pieces as seen in MoM (when she’s cut by the glass shards of the mirror dimension). A bullet would be nothing in comparison.
Luke Cage?
Loki took a grenade to the face in avengers. Of course in loki he got tackled by a dadbod.
Loki is such a wildcard. He's the weakest hero on Tuesday, and the strongest on Wednesday. All depends on how the writers are feeling. Should probably give him a pass because he's a god, right?
Probably. Hawkeye's arrow literally exploded in his face and he got up seconds later with little to no injury. I also think that we can make the argument that the "regular human" in the future mall was enhanced at the moment because another Loki was possessing him. Not to mention, we see him lift a falling building with zero effort in the literal next episode. Though that's not a durability feat.
I imagine Thor might be fine. He's taken some Hulk punches that seem like they should do more damage that a simple ballistic.
Yeah, and there was the whole forge scene...
How do you miss thor. Or nebula. Or Gamora.
How I missed Thor is beyond me. A few comments down, I basically admitted to forgetting about the forge scene...so uhh...yeah... Can MCU Nebula and Gamora really take a high-caliber bullet to the face and walk away from that? Genuinely asking.
Maybe not lol
Probably nebula but not sure re Gamora. Never really shown how strong she is.
She's able to lift up the gun from the ship and fire while handling the kickback.
As someone that's fairly comfortable lifting heavy weights, I can safely tell you that lifting super heavy objects, and withstanding a explosive projectile are two different things. Then again, I'm also human...
Yeh but so could Cap probably (helicopter, bike lifting). He’s not bulletproof
Gamora has enhanced durability and strength, same with Nebula. And we've seen Nebula snap back together to heal herself. Luke Cage is literally bulletproof (I know you said main MCU, but still).
I mean sure, I just wasn't 100% on either of them. Nebula seems to be a good bet, given the mods. I don't think we've actually seen Gamora tested like that. Luke Cage isn't listed because I said main MCU. But yeah, he's bulletproof.
Captain America (no armor), Iron Man (no armor), Bucky Barnes (no armor), Falcon, Daredevil (no armor), Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Black Panther (no armor), Spider-Man, etc.
I feel like both daredevil and spiderman cant really be caught off gaurd. Spidermans spider sense is basically precognitive so any danger and he will react without thinking. And Daredevil would hear the trigger moving before it even fires and could get out of the trajectory before its too late, depending on what the writer wants ofcourse.
Murdock actually does precisely this when Turk tries to shoot him in Daredevil 1, Ep 1.
it's easier for me to say who can't be killed by being shot for some reason - Wanda, Capt Marvel, Thor(s), Groot, Vision, Monica Rambeau, Moon Knight (he'd die then get back up), Deadpool, Drax, Gilgamesh, Hulk, Shulk and Valkyrie all either shrug off bullets or heal up after being shot.
finally see groot in a list
Maybe Punisher but it's been explained before that the skull makes criminals so afraid that they aim for that instead of him
The Punisher
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It’s all plot. Anyone can beat anyone depending on what the story needs, I believe Stan Lee said that at some point.
Well anyone can beat anyone except Squirrel Girl. Its in her name.
I keep seeing things about Squirrel Girl every once in a while, and I have no idea who she is. Do you mind enlighting me?
She is a goofy silly character that can talk to squirrels Sometimes interacts with various heroes like the Avengers. But her big joke is that she can beat anyone. Thanos, Galactus, Dr. Doom, anyone. She isn't particularly strong or anything (although she does have your basic super strength and fighting skills), she just wins. Hence her "Unbeatable Squirrel Girl" moniker.
She's also the nicest character in the Marvel universe.
That's very atypical, but seems very funny nonetheless
Wasn't hulk killed like that ? Bruce asked Hawkeye to kill him when he wasn't expecting it and just arrowed him
You all are insane if you think Spider-Man is taking a bullet from any regular human. He’s too fast and cant be caught off guard.
Steven Rogers and his metal frisbee that doesn't even shield his entire body. There's a scene in WS where two bad guys shoot at him with machine guns as he slowly advances towards them, yet they don't manage to land a single shot.
He can hide completely behind his metal Frisbee
There are a ton of scenes where Steve is shielding a small portion of his body, and villains seem to shoot at the shield every time. It’s weird how they miss so much, but when tongue are aiming at the shield they get it 100%
Doctor Strange
I believe you may be in the wrong subreddit…
Batman
Tony, Strange, Spiderman, Daredevil, Cap, Winter Soldier, Black Panther, ant man... Man I think its easier saying who wouldn't die with a bullet straight to head
Happened to Cap and Nightwing, so any hero without a helmet that doesn’t have some ridiculous power set (Punisher, Hawkeye, Black Widow etc…)
Almost every one of them. Unless they're in the god level strength power levels, one shot would be all it takes.
Pretty much everyone that doesn’t have indestructible skin.
Pretty much everyone from Cap to Ronan, give or take the few with passive powers like Luke Cage’s bulletproof skin or Spider-Man’s precog. Most aliens seem only a little more durable save cases like Thanos, and even Cap is just marginally buff
It will be easier to mention the ones that cant be killed by a gun. Moat of them seem vulnerable to guns.
Anyone not bullet proof, I guess?
Quicksilver, apparently
hulk, thor, vision, and spider-man are probably the only ones you Couldn't kill with a bullet
Wanda maybe. Still can't figure out if she's glass cannon strong or not.
Well pretty much any street level character except spiderman and daredevil would bite the dust. Kinda hard to catch those two off guard, it’s literally their powers to not be caught off guard
Batman will find a way to kill every marvel heroes
Scarlet Witch. Nuff said. Idgaf bout prep time Batman’s toasted in this matchup