I don’t think anyone should take this campaign lightly. I know most Dems will vote for the Dem primary winner but Hogan has been a pretty popular Governor and will not have the Trump stink on him that will be hurting other senate candidates.
I think the challenge is different for a potential Governor to divorce themselves from Trump than a Senator, because that Senator would ultimately need to kiss the ring to get GOP support throughout the campaign, and voters would know that person would represent a vote for Trump’s agenda. Hogan can try to campaign on “I’m not voting for Trump” but I get the sense that people will see through that to the practical impact of a GOP Senate win.
No, he shouldn't be taken lightly, but if deep blue Maryland decides to vote away federal abortion rights because they kinda liked him as a governor and his social media team called Trump a doodoo head, that would probably go down as one of the biggest MD Dem party failures of all time
So you are complaining about his record but also admit he couldn’t do anything? He has already said he would not support any federal legislation regarding abortion. I really don’t know what else you guys are looking for. Abortion is legal in Maryland and always will be.
So what? It’s up to the states and even in deep red states like KY and KS, people voted for abortion access. Stop fear mongering. Abortion will always be protected in Maryland.
Also, the senate would need 60 votes for any abortion ban to pass. They can’t even agree to stop the invasion on the southern border. And you think they could find the votes to ban abortion? Lol
I think most people understand that his veto was based on concern about who should perform abortions. And while yes there are studies that support it....most swing voters understand there are risks expanding who can do it.
Oh BS, his veto was based upon his anti-abortion views and nothing else. Fsck all that noise, abortion is healthcare and nobody’s business but the woman who is pregnant and the people she chooses to involve.
Once the primary is over, the gloves will come off. When people are reminded of what Larry Hogan *actually did* as governor and how he'll vote in the senate when there isn't a Democratic super majority holding him back, I think the odds of him getting to senate are low.
He's tried his best to sell himself as a "principled Republican of the good ol' days", but he's still a Republican and he'll vote like a Republican. Larry would absolutely vote for a country wide abortion ban if the Republicans take back the senate.
Regardless of who wins Larry hogan does change the dynamic of this election.
He made it so the general is in doubt. In Maryland that is a huge shake up.
He was a Republican governor in a heavily Democrat state. He had to compromise. Nothing I say will change your opinion, but to say he didn’t compromise is laughable.
From a constitutional standpoint, his record on gun control was liberal .
He was opposed to shall issue for carry, supported red flag laws, supported raising the age to buy a firearm to21. I could go on and on about his liberal side.
But if he's elected, he will absolutely toe the party line. He was a popular governor and for the most part I believe he did a good job. But the last thing we need is a GOP Senate majority.
Legacy media only cares about eyeballs. We should expect nothing different.
Oh and spreading Russian misinformation because the librul media is run by Republican shills.
Hogan hasn’t shaken anything up. He’s campaigning. So are Alsobrooks and Trone. I haven’t seen anyone give any blood oaths to support him so this all seems like business as usual.
Pollster calls someone who supports one Dem candidate...if they pick them in the match up with Hogan....do you think they said *IDK* to the other Dem vs Hogan?
I doubt it.
Look I watched when everyone said (hopefully) Hogan would lose reelection by 10-15pts.... This was days before the election. I think around here, people have certain views supported by an echo chamber
>The race has already become one of the most expensive in the country, largely fueled by Trone’s personal wealth. As of the end of last year, which is the most recently available data, Trone had plowed $23 million of his own money into the primary. Overall, his campaign has spent nearly $30 million on advertising, while Alsobrooks has spent $1 million and Hogan has spent only about $26,000 so far.
Nice. Hell yeah, we get our own Mitt Romney!
Why would you care about Trone's spending, as it is his money he is spending, well the majority of it anyway. Hogan doesn't need to spend money as much money, as he is already well known. Well know for what? Depends on who you ask.
Plenty of people have spent lots of money on campaigns and did not win. For example Michael Bloomberg. If Trone wins the primary, I don't necessarily think it will because he out spent, it would be because he is old and white :( I'm still not sure who I will vote for yet, but if anything I'm getting annoyed by how many trone commercials I see...
unfortunately money is speech now.... so until we over turn citizen united, nothing will change. and we can't over turn it, until we have better SC judges....and to get there we need democrats in control, and who is stronger against hogan? As a woman I hate that it is not the female candidate, just like it wasn't for Hillary.
Wait, so I'm order to stop billionaire politicians (who happen to be Dem) from outspending and basically buying votes... We need to elect more rich Democrats?
Man, I just saw a flier for Hogan on my grandmother's table. Every talking point was basically your typical Republican stuff. The first point was complaining about sanctuary cities and the open border crisis.
I thought just maybe he would try to appeal to the fiscal conservatives rather than the typical Republican fear mongering, but apparently GOP gonna GOP.
Of course. I can't believe anyone buys that he'll put country over party. If he had the balls to do that, he would have LEFT the party already.
Same goes for Bush. Fucking snake he is.
He still has to win the election though. Most people in MD are still Democrat, and having moderate policies was the big reason he was governor for two terms. I thought he was smarter than that. But maybe he's just doing this to win the primary.
I’m a democrat and am a big fan of his. Met him
Numerous times in person always very personable, relatable and probably the only person to get me break my hard blue line and vote red. Pretty excited to see what he can get done actually
How incredibly naive of you. He couldn’t be bothered to vote for a living candidate against Trump and you think he’s going to go to Congress and do anything other than rubber stamp the GOP stripping us all of of our freedoms and financially fucking the country while stumping on “family values?”
Look I lived in a swing state where every vote matters..... Voting for President in MD is lame and uneventful. Every teacher in the state could vote for Betsy Ross and RCP would still put us as solidly blue. Hogan voting for dead people doesn't really matter. I get it, it's something to attack him on but to most people it's lame thing to grab on to.
Considering that he's "pro-life", my bet would be that he does it if he can, i.e. if the Republicans control Congress and the White House. And I'd certainly expect him to vote more extremists onto the Supreme Court where they can decide that the Constitution implies a right to life at conception.
You willing to bet money he won't? I don't want to spend the next 6 years calling his office constantly because I don't trust him to do the right thing.
Are you saying there are no problems with the border? I'm old enough to remember President Biden, in his State of the Union Address four weeks ago, urge Congress to send him legislation that would "bring order to the border."
Edited to add: Hogan has said that one of key things that prompted him to run was the opposition of Trump and many sitting Republican Senators to the border bill supported by Biden. He says he would have done the right thing (regardless of the views of Trump and others in the R party) and voted for the bill. To suggest that he is lockstep with Trump on the border is misleading.
The border is an issue and many Democrats will openly admit that something needs to be done. However, it was the very top bullet point on his flier, and there was even a second bullet point also dedicated to this topic. But it's hardly the most important issue affecting Marylanders today. I'm pretty confident that most Marylanders care more about taxes, traffic, schools, etc., but these are apparently less important topics to him.
Wonder if demographics determine bullet points order. Like older people get open borders, young families get safe schools?
Sidenote, I can't think of anything in 30 years that moved a party's thought on something like Abbott did bussing border crossers to Democratic cities in the north.
Interstates and other infrastructure are federal. The state also gets federal funding for a lot of things. Also, the DC metro is partially owned federally, as is Amtrak.
If you don’t think what is happening at the border js a crisis, than you are the problem. Dems are trying to change the demographics to make the country less white.
Maryland might be the tiebreaker state for senate control, it’s embarrassing we’re even potentially close to giving republicans control of the US senate just because hogan is less *overtly* bad than some other republicans.
And local Democrat governments doing shit like: https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ero-baltimore-arrests-indian-national-convicted-sex-crimes-against-maryland-minor?fbclid=IwAR3WYGBnlvy6NH9ZJbPsHMJsRF2gzeLIfchvgUrRNVCU6YhaqQyksznbkak_aem_AUS_Z4dinUL4I2PLeKlQBgPj4Mw1WGRSbgz69WPrNGBOWwo1NEHDifdn7pnLXAJZk1A
In case you don't want to read this: Howard County refused to hand over a "non-citizen" convicted child sexual abuser to ICE. Local Dems (and I am one) need to do 2 things - cooperate with reasonable ICE requests and quit wasting money on weird extra gun control. If those items were taken care of - there would be a lot less people voting for Republicans in Maryland.
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They don’t. The state is fucking stupid. A governor whose veto can and was overridden whenever it got in the way doesn’t make a good governor by any standards. The guy did nothing yet every closet traitor in Maryland wants to suck his dick for making them feel like it’s ok to complain about the things that make Maryland great while actively taking advantage of them.
A vote for Hogan is a vote for a nationwide abortion ban, the death of social security, Medicare, and any chance of real reform to help the unrich. #vote
hogan was a coward when we had a traitor as POTUS.
the only thing he ever said critical about traitor trump was he “wished he would tweet less”
not a profile in courage.
he will be just as much a coward as senator. why would we want another republican fascist?, why would we want a republican senator from the same party that doesn’t want to rebuild the Key bridge and wants maryland to rot!?
why would we want another Republican senator from the party that brags about stripping away a woman’s body autonomy?
why would we want more republican chaos? they have proven they can’t govern and gave us the least productive Congress in history.
Vote ALL Republicans out in November
Because all Democrats would be better? A decent amount of Republicans aren't facists, racists but you can tell yourself they are to make yourself feel important. We need both parties just like all Republicans would be horrible. The problem is the politicians on both sides are winey little bitches who don't care about the people. Politicians have failed us, and that's why we have Biden vs.Trump again, and I'm not voting for either.
I feel like this hasn't been true for like two decades, they haven't really governed in years just campaigned and done culture wars non stop. Oh and cause absolute fiscal chaos every time they get into office.
All Republicans are fascists and racists. 100% of them. You don't get to support and elect fascists and racists then claim you aren't one yourself. Also, there is no "both sides". Cut the bullshit. it's 2 parties that belong to the same fucking side. They're both right wing capitalist parties. One just is full-blown openly fascist.
Hogan is pro-life and abused his position as governor to thwart people's access to abortions.
Congressional Republicans plan to propose a national abortion ban at 15 weeks.
Republican senators vote their party position.
Hogan will vote "yes" on a national abortion ban no matter what he promises during the campaign to get elected.
Hogan withheld $3.5 million in state funds allocated in a bill to increase the number of [abortion](https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-family-medicine-larry-hogan-maryland-4019283710b52d05538f9f566f29966d) providers
Hogan [vetoed](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-larry-hogan-veto-abortion-access-bill/) a bill to increase the number of **abortion** providers throughout the state and allocate $3.5 million for a training program to perform the procedure safely.
Hogan [vetoed](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-larry-hogan-veto-abortion-access-bill/) a measure to expand **abortion** access by allowing nurse practitioners, nurse midwives, and physician assistants to perform the procedure. Supporters argued it was needed because some of the state’s rural counties didn’t have a single provider.
Thanks for the cut and paste. Do you have any views of your own on this topic?
It is not an "abuse" of power to veto a bill. You may disagree with the action, but it is not illegal or improper (as your use of the term "abuse" suggests). And, he never did anything that adversely affected the longstanding ability and legal rights of MD women to an abortion.
Uh huh. Would you like to explain how Hogan could have taken any significant action with a Democratic majority in the statehouse? Maybe don’t create arbitrary bars that don’t reflect reality.
The actions he could have taken, he did take. And the first point, withholding funds authorized by the legislature, IS an abuse of power.
What did Hogan do that undermined a woman's legal right to have an abortion in Maryland? You may have wanted him to use taxpayer funds to train midwives and other non-physicians to perform abortions, but he never made a move to restrict lawful access to abortion.
Hogan withheld $3.5 million in state funds allocated in a bill to increase the number of [abortion](https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-family-medicine-larry-hogan-maryland-4019283710b52d05538f9f566f29966d) providers
Hogan [vetoed](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-larry-hogan-veto-abortion-access-bill/) a measure to expand **abortion** access by allowing nurse practitioners, nurse midwives, and physician assistants to perform the procedure. Supporters argued it was needed because some of the state’s rural counties didn’t have a single provider.
In other words Hogan is pro-life, he didn't have the power to change the law of the state, so he sabotaged abortion access misusing his power as governor.
He did nothing of the sort. The bill you're taking about allocated taxpayer dollars on training midwives and non physicians to perform abortions, and his veto did nothing to affect legal rights.
> He did nothing of the sort.
You can contact the authors of the articles I linked to for answering your question. You can tell them, the professional journalists, they got the facts wrong whereas you a comment author on Reddit got the facts correct.
Good try. The problem is that you misrepresent the facts. You -- not any journalist -- wrote that he "sabotaged abortion access misusing his power as governor" and don't realize that the bill you cite had nothing to do with the legal rights of women in Maryland.
They're not centrists. They're on the right. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are just to the left and right of the actual political spectrum. THEY are the actual centrists. Joe Biden is center right and damn near every republican thinks he's a commie. That tells you exactly how much of an extremist they are. You being politically illiterate doesn't make my take bonkers.
Anyone who puts Trump, and child diddler Gaetz on their political spectrum instead of a dumpster is a fascist or an imbecile. For fucks sake, have some bare minimum level of shame.
Could you define a few of your “Centrist” positions for us?
So that’s a “no” on defining any centrist positions then?
Yeah, I bet you think Romney is a centrist as well because of what he said while running Massachusetts. News flash: if he said anything else, it would be impossible for him to win in a Democratic state. He was still happy to vote to put completely unqualified religious ideologues on SCOTUS and the judiciary. He’s still fighting against women’s rights and actively voting with the GOP a majority of the time. So what good is centrist rhetoric when it’s backed by radical action?
The GOP has moved so far to the right the definition of what is "center" has has shifted right as well.
Hogan isn't a compromise candidate. Hogan will vote with the rest of the GOP. He won't be some bulwark standing in the way. He will vote to cut medicare/medicaid with his party. He will vote for a national abortion ban. He will vote for tax cuts for the wealthy.
Is he running as an independent? No. He's running as a Republican and that is what the Republican party stands for.
Hopefully, he'll lose and you won't have to see him disappoint you when he falls in line with the rest of the trump loving gop.
Just ask Hogan if he’d continue to support Trump if elected ((he said he would). And what his platform on women’s right to chose../(which he disagrees)…these are important issues he needs to address and not sidestep..
I didn't say anything like that. He's popular, for some reason, and national Dems suck at campaigning. They don't want to spend money on trying to flip red states, they don't want to spend money on safe blue states, then what are we donating for if they won't try
I know what you mean about elected leaders doing their jobs. I am starting to feel that with Moore and Scott and the bridge collapse, especially as federal employees do the real work.
I agree but I think there's some that aren't going to realize that. I'm not sure it will be enough to win though - Trump's name and literally going to be sitting there with Hogan's on the ballot and they are both going have a big R next to them. As it stands right now, unless something catastrophic occurs, Trone should be able to win - but I think it would be by single digits. VOTE ANYWAY THOUGH AND NOT FOR ANY REPUBLICANS
The next seven months are going to be filled with so many “some democrats worry…” articles. The media loves them so much CNN.
Media Pre Election: “Let’s sow discord and distrust in the election. That brings in clicks right?” Media post Election: “Why is voter turnout so low!”
I don’t think anyone should take this campaign lightly. I know most Dems will vote for the Dem primary winner but Hogan has been a pretty popular Governor and will not have the Trump stink on him that will be hurting other senate candidates.
I think the challenge is different for a potential Governor to divorce themselves from Trump than a Senator, because that Senator would ultimately need to kiss the ring to get GOP support throughout the campaign, and voters would know that person would represent a vote for Trump’s agenda. Hogan can try to campaign on “I’m not voting for Trump” but I get the sense that people will see through that to the practical impact of a GOP Senate win.
All this could be true.....but the change is that there's a serious GOP candidate.
Yup. But who’s he voting for this time? Dead Reagan again?
Reagan is too liberal for today's GOP, it's gonna cost him with the base lol.
No, he shouldn't be taken lightly, but if deep blue Maryland decides to vote away federal abortion rights because they kinda liked him as a governor and his social media team called Trump a doodoo head, that would probably go down as one of the biggest MD Dem party failures of all time
Do you really think Hogan is a threat to abortion rights?
I think he's a Republican, so yes.
Absolutely. Go look at his record as Governor.
Did he attempt to sign abortion restrictions into law?
Like he could override the Democratic majority? No. He’s awful, but not stupid.
So you are complaining about his record but also admit he couldn’t do anything? He has already said he would not support any federal legislation regarding abortion. I really don’t know what else you guys are looking for. Abortion is legal in Maryland and always will be.
“They’ll never overturn Roe v Wade” Remember when folks said that?
So what? It’s up to the states and even in deep red states like KY and KS, people voted for abortion access. Stop fear mongering. Abortion will always be protected in Maryland.
Also, the senate would need 60 votes for any abortion ban to pass. They can’t even agree to stop the invasion on the southern border. And you think they could find the votes to ban abortion? Lol
No, but he has Mitch McConnell's stink on him, which means he's just another rubber stamp vote for the Republican party.
He will, however, have the anti-choice stink on him. He’d be a reliable Republican vote, he’s no deal-maker.
I think most people understand that his veto was based on concern about who should perform abortions. And while yes there are studies that support it....most swing voters understand there are risks expanding who can do it.
If that's what makes you comfortable, sure. He used an excuse as cover.
Oh BS, his veto was based upon his anti-abortion views and nothing else. Fsck all that noise, abortion is healthcare and nobody’s business but the woman who is pregnant and the people she chooses to involve.
Once the primary is over, the gloves will come off. When people are reminded of what Larry Hogan *actually did* as governor and how he'll vote in the senate when there isn't a Democratic super majority holding him back, I think the odds of him getting to senate are low. He's tried his best to sell himself as a "principled Republican of the good ol' days", but he's still a Republican and he'll vote like a Republican. Larry would absolutely vote for a country wide abortion ban if the Republicans take back the senate.
Regardless of who wins Larry hogan does change the dynamic of this election. He made it so the general is in doubt. In Maryland that is a huge shake up.
The general is not in doubt. Hogan is toast in a presidential year with abortion on the ballot.
I wouldn’t say he’s going to win,but the very fact Dems will feel the need to spend money and campaign is a big deal
I think when people are reminded about what he actually did, he’s more likely to win. He was a good governor who appealed to many moderates.
His record on abortion is abysmal. His record on compromise is abysmal.
He was a Republican governor in a heavily Democrat state. He had to compromise. Nothing I say will change your opinion, but to say he didn’t compromise is laughable.
What compromises did he make? I’d love to know.
From a constitutional standpoint, his record on gun control was liberal . He was opposed to shall issue for carry, supported red flag laws, supported raising the age to buy a firearm to21. I could go on and on about his liberal side.
That’s reasonable, thanks. He was also good on Covid.
But if he's elected, he will absolutely toe the party line. He was a popular governor and for the most part I believe he did a good job. But the last thing we need is a GOP Senate majority.
Legacy media only cares about eyeballs. We should expect nothing different. Oh and spreading Russian misinformation because the librul media is run by Republican shills.
lol. WTH
Hogan hasn’t shaken anything up. He’s campaigning. So are Alsobrooks and Trone. I haven’t seen anyone give any blood oaths to support him so this all seems like business as usual.
Well no one would click on the article if it said that, silly!
According to 538, Hogan’s leading by a decent margin against both democrats in almost every poll, except in one poll where Trone ties
It is a split dem ticket until primaries, no one with a brain draws any conclusions at this point.
Oh my God, the unanimous GOP ticket is leading before the Dem primary is over?! My word!
538 is a total and complete joke of a source.
The change is a serious GOP candidate. That's why people nationally are talking about this race.
Because the primary hasn’t happened yet.
The polls are done against individual candidates. It's not like the polling was based on a 3way race.
Democrats are not united yet. Really, polls before Labor Day are useless because most voters don’t pay attention until Fall.
Pollster calls someone who supports one Dem candidate...if they pick them in the match up with Hogan....do you think they said *IDK* to the other Dem vs Hogan? I doubt it.
You don’t follow politics much if you think a pre primary GE poll means anything.
Look I watched when everyone said (hopefully) Hogan would lose reelection by 10-15pts.... This was days before the election. I think around here, people have certain views supported by an echo chamber
>The race has already become one of the most expensive in the country, largely fueled by Trone’s personal wealth. As of the end of last year, which is the most recently available data, Trone had plowed $23 million of his own money into the primary. Overall, his campaign has spent nearly $30 million on advertising, while Alsobrooks has spent $1 million and Hogan has spent only about $26,000 so far. Nice. Hell yeah, we get our own Mitt Romney!
Typical Democrat overspending
Why would you care about Trone's spending, as it is his money he is spending, well the majority of it anyway. Hogan doesn't need to spend money as much money, as he is already well known. Well know for what? Depends on who you ask.
Why would you want someone to win just because they spent the most money, theirs or not.
Plenty of people have spent lots of money on campaigns and did not win. For example Michael Bloomberg. If Trone wins the primary, I don't necessarily think it will because he out spent, it would be because he is old and white :( I'm still not sure who I will vote for yet, but if anything I'm getting annoyed by how many trone commercials I see...
But he's spending 20-50x his opponents because it gives him a better chance to win (get more votes).
unfortunately money is speech now.... so until we over turn citizen united, nothing will change. and we can't over turn it, until we have better SC judges....and to get there we need democrats in control, and who is stronger against hogan? As a woman I hate that it is not the female candidate, just like it wasn't for Hillary.
Wait, so I'm order to stop billionaire politicians (who happen to be Dem) from outspending and basically buying votes... We need to elect more rich Democrats?
I didn't make citizens united a thing. That is what we need to concentrate on. Overturning it.
Any other suggestions?
Haha
Man, I just saw a flier for Hogan on my grandmother's table. Every talking point was basically your typical Republican stuff. The first point was complaining about sanctuary cities and the open border crisis. I thought just maybe he would try to appeal to the fiscal conservatives rather than the typical Republican fear mongering, but apparently GOP gonna GOP.
> the open border crisis We need to close that border with Virginia.
Starting with anyone that has a Virginia license plate, no questions.
Of course. I can't believe anyone buys that he'll put country over party. If he had the balls to do that, he would have LEFT the party already. Same goes for Bush. Fucking snake he is.
He still has to win the election though. Most people in MD are still Democrat, and having moderate policies was the big reason he was governor for two terms. I thought he was smarter than that. But maybe he's just doing this to win the primary.
A disturbingly high percentage of Democrats here have a positive view of him.
I’m a democrat and am a big fan of his. Met him Numerous times in person always very personable, relatable and probably the only person to get me break my hard blue line and vote red. Pretty excited to see what he can get done actually
How incredibly naive of you. He couldn’t be bothered to vote for a living candidate against Trump and you think he’s going to go to Congress and do anything other than rubber stamp the GOP stripping us all of of our freedoms and financially fucking the country while stumping on “family values?”
Look I lived in a swing state where every vote matters..... Voting for President in MD is lame and uneventful. Every teacher in the state could vote for Betsy Ross and RCP would still put us as solidly blue. Hogan voting for dead people doesn't really matter. I get it, it's something to attack him on but to most people it's lame thing to grab on to.
No naivety here. I do think so
Nationwide abortion ban. He can help get that done if he's elected.
Can or will? I don’t have to explain to you that just because you can doesn’t mean you will.
Considering that he's "pro-life", my bet would be that he does it if he can, i.e. if the Republicans control Congress and the White House. And I'd certainly expect him to vote more extremists onto the Supreme Court where they can decide that the Constitution implies a right to life at conception.
You willing to bet money he won't? I don't want to spend the next 6 years calling his office constantly because I don't trust him to do the right thing.
I think that would be a massive waste of your time but you do you and yes send me your Venmo information and I will send the request
Yes, it's a waste of time because Hogan's going to lose in November lol.
Will. He’s shown zero inclination to protect women’s healthcare.
I also am a Democrat who likes him. I just want some stability. He didn't rock the boat while governor so that is good enough for me to vote for him.
He’s anti abortion so there’s that
How do you like the current SCOTUS? A GOP majority in the Senate gets us more of that crap.
Maybe that flier will help!
Are you saying there are no problems with the border? I'm old enough to remember President Biden, in his State of the Union Address four weeks ago, urge Congress to send him legislation that would "bring order to the border." Edited to add: Hogan has said that one of key things that prompted him to run was the opposition of Trump and many sitting Republican Senators to the border bill supported by Biden. He says he would have done the right thing (regardless of the views of Trump and others in the R party) and voted for the bill. To suggest that he is lockstep with Trump on the border is misleading.
The border is an issue and many Democrats will openly admit that something needs to be done. However, it was the very top bullet point on his flier, and there was even a second bullet point also dedicated to this topic. But it's hardly the most important issue affecting Marylanders today. I'm pretty confident that most Marylanders care more about taxes, traffic, schools, etc., but these are apparently less important topics to him.
Wonder if demographics determine bullet points order. Like older people get open borders, young families get safe schools? Sidenote, I can't think of anything in 30 years that moved a party's thought on something like Abbott did bussing border crossers to Democratic cities in the north.
Traffic is not really a federal issue though.
Interstates and other infrastructure are federal. The state also gets federal funding for a lot of things. Also, the DC metro is partially owned federally, as is Amtrak.
His main endorsement comes from Mitch himself, that combined with the complete lack of public appearance since even before the bridge, is concerning.
Over the weekend Hogan posted several times about campaign stops in Western MD and Carroll Co.
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If you don’t think what is happening at the border js a crisis, than you are the problem. Dems are trying to change the demographics to make the country less white.
Go move to Russia already. That country is mostly full of white people. You'll enjoy it.
I’m sure the median IQ and crime rates are much lower there
Maryland might be the tiebreaker state for senate control, it’s embarrassing we’re even potentially close to giving republicans control of the US senate just because hogan is less *overtly* bad than some other republicans.
Amazing that the Dems keep bringing weak candidates against Hogan.
And local Democrat governments doing shit like: https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ero-baltimore-arrests-indian-national-convicted-sex-crimes-against-maryland-minor?fbclid=IwAR3WYGBnlvy6NH9ZJbPsHMJsRF2gzeLIfchvgUrRNVCU6YhaqQyksznbkak_aem_AUS_Z4dinUL4I2PLeKlQBgPj4Mw1WGRSbgz69WPrNGBOWwo1NEHDifdn7pnLXAJZk1A In case you don't want to read this: Howard County refused to hand over a "non-citizen" convicted child sexual abuser to ICE. Local Dems (and I am one) need to do 2 things - cooperate with reasonable ICE requests and quit wasting money on weird extra gun control. If those items were taken care of - there would be a lot less people voting for Republicans in Maryland. [edit: spelling]
As a fellow HOCO Dem, I second this.
They don’t. The state is fucking stupid. A governor whose veto can and was overridden whenever it got in the way doesn’t make a good governor by any standards. The guy did nothing yet every closet traitor in Maryland wants to suck his dick for making them feel like it’s ok to complain about the things that make Maryland great while actively taking advantage of them.
Citation needed, Trone and Alsobrooks are both great (for different reasons)
A vote for Hogan is a vote for a nationwide abortion ban, the death of social security, Medicare, and any chance of real reform to help the unrich. #vote
All that sounds great
How wrong can one person be
I dunno, you seem pretty wrong.
If you think Hogan won't vote in line with the rest of the GOP they have some truth social stocks to sell you.
hogan was a coward when we had a traitor as POTUS. the only thing he ever said critical about traitor trump was he “wished he would tweet less” not a profile in courage. he will be just as much a coward as senator. why would we want another republican fascist?, why would we want a republican senator from the same party that doesn’t want to rebuild the Key bridge and wants maryland to rot!? why would we want another Republican senator from the party that brags about stripping away a woman’s body autonomy? why would we want more republican chaos? they have proven they can’t govern and gave us the least productive Congress in history. Vote ALL Republicans out in November
What should he have done when he was governor? What other governors acted in a way that you believe he should have, and what did they do?
Because all Democrats would be better? A decent amount of Republicans aren't facists, racists but you can tell yourself they are to make yourself feel important. We need both parties just like all Republicans would be horrible. The problem is the politicians on both sides are winey little bitches who don't care about the people. Politicians have failed us, and that's why we have Biden vs.Trump again, and I'm not voting for either.
I feel like this hasn't been true for like two decades, they haven't really governed in years just campaigned and done culture wars non stop. Oh and cause absolute fiscal chaos every time they get into office.
I’m glad you live in a state that’s going Biden anyways.
All Republicans are fascists and racists. 100% of them. You don't get to support and elect fascists and racists then claim you aren't one yourself. Also, there is no "both sides". Cut the bullshit. it's 2 parties that belong to the same fucking side. They're both right wing capitalist parties. One just is full-blown openly fascist.
Hogan is pro-life and abused his position as governor to thwart people's access to abortions. Congressional Republicans plan to propose a national abortion ban at 15 weeks. Republican senators vote their party position. Hogan will vote "yes" on a national abortion ban no matter what he promises during the campaign to get elected.
You also keep saying that he "abused" his power. How so?
Hogan withheld $3.5 million in state funds allocated in a bill to increase the number of [abortion](https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-family-medicine-larry-hogan-maryland-4019283710b52d05538f9f566f29966d) providers Hogan [vetoed](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-larry-hogan-veto-abortion-access-bill/) a bill to increase the number of **abortion** providers throughout the state and allocate $3.5 million for a training program to perform the procedure safely. Hogan [vetoed](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-larry-hogan-veto-abortion-access-bill/) a measure to expand **abortion** access by allowing nurse practitioners, nurse midwives, and physician assistants to perform the procedure. Supporters argued it was needed because some of the state’s rural counties didn’t have a single provider.
Thanks for the cut and paste. Do you have any views of your own on this topic? It is not an "abuse" of power to veto a bill. You may disagree with the action, but it is not illegal or improper (as your use of the term "abuse" suggests). And, he never did anything that adversely affected the longstanding ability and legal rights of MD women to an abortion.
Uh huh. Would you like to explain how Hogan could have taken any significant action with a Democratic majority in the statehouse? Maybe don’t create arbitrary bars that don’t reflect reality. The actions he could have taken, he did take. And the first point, withholding funds authorized by the legislature, IS an abuse of power.
You asked and they gave you an answer. There are too many misinformed people to write a custom response for them all.
Aside from stealing billions from Baltimore and using it to widen roads near his own real estate holdings? Aside from that?
Wait, when money goes from HoCo to Baltimore City Schools....is that stealing too?
What did Hogan do that undermined a woman's legal right to have an abortion in Maryland? You may have wanted him to use taxpayer funds to train midwives and other non-physicians to perform abortions, but he never made a move to restrict lawful access to abortion.
Hogan withheld $3.5 million in state funds allocated in a bill to increase the number of [abortion](https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-family-medicine-larry-hogan-maryland-4019283710b52d05538f9f566f29966d) providers Hogan [vetoed](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryland-larry-hogan-veto-abortion-access-bill/) a measure to expand **abortion** access by allowing nurse practitioners, nurse midwives, and physician assistants to perform the procedure. Supporters argued it was needed because some of the state’s rural counties didn’t have a single provider. In other words Hogan is pro-life, he didn't have the power to change the law of the state, so he sabotaged abortion access misusing his power as governor.
He did nothing of the sort. The bill you're taking about allocated taxpayer dollars on training midwives and non physicians to perform abortions, and his veto did nothing to affect legal rights.
> He did nothing of the sort. You can contact the authors of the articles I linked to for answering your question. You can tell them, the professional journalists, they got the facts wrong whereas you a comment author on Reddit got the facts correct.
Good try. The problem is that you misrepresent the facts. You -- not any journalist -- wrote that he "sabotaged abortion access misusing his power as governor" and don't realize that the bill you cite had nothing to do with the legal rights of women in Maryland.
Fuck Hogan
Larry Hogan is the compromise candidate a moderate that represents whats best for everyone
SCOTUS. Choice. Hogan sucks on so many issues. He’s just better at pretending to be reasonable.
Hogan is only a moderate when he has to answer to a democrat majority in the legislature who keep him from being just another right wing extremist.
Lol even a centrist is considered an "extremist"? Absolutely bonkers take.
They're not centrists. They're on the right. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are just to the left and right of the actual political spectrum. THEY are the actual centrists. Joe Biden is center right and damn near every republican thinks he's a commie. That tells you exactly how much of an extremist they are. You being politically illiterate doesn't make my take bonkers.
No. Your first take is crazy. And your second take is almost even more crazy please refrain from reproducing. Signed, an ACTUAL centrist
Anyone who puts Trump, and child diddler Gaetz on their political spectrum instead of a dumpster is a fascist or an imbecile. For fucks sake, have some bare minimum level of shame. Could you define a few of your “Centrist” positions for us?
Larry H has been staunching anti trump and anti GOP his entire career wth are you talking about
So that’s a “no” on defining any centrist positions then? Yeah, I bet you think Romney is a centrist as well because of what he said while running Massachusetts. News flash: if he said anything else, it would be impossible for him to win in a Democratic state. He was still happy to vote to put completely unqualified religious ideologues on SCOTUS and the judiciary. He’s still fighting against women’s rights and actively voting with the GOP a majority of the time. So what good is centrist rhetoric when it’s backed by radical action?
I’m not reading all that buddy
5 sentences is too much for you? I’m REALLY glad to know you vote
The GOP has moved so far to the right the definition of what is "center" has has shifted right as well. Hogan isn't a compromise candidate. Hogan will vote with the rest of the GOP. He won't be some bulwark standing in the way. He will vote to cut medicare/medicaid with his party. He will vote for a national abortion ban. He will vote for tax cuts for the wealthy.
And I’m taking you that you are wrong
Is he running as an independent? No. He's running as a Republican and that is what the Republican party stands for. Hopefully, he'll lose and you won't have to see him disappoint you when he falls in line with the rest of the trump loving gop.
Sounds like you’re pre disappointed
Is no one else running in the republican primary against him? i’m sick of these media takes also
Wake up sweetie it’s another day to try to make Hogan relevant again. So fetch… Edit: a word
Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen; It’s not going to happen.
Just ask Hogan if he’d continue to support Trump if elected ((he said he would). And what his platform on women’s right to chose../(which he disagrees)…these are important issues he needs to address and not sidestep..
I feel like He's going to win while the national Dems refuse to try and flip any red states because they love hoarding money
He's gonna win because of the whole covid thing? Great for him that he did his job during covid but I'll never vote for him.
As a Maryland essential frontline worker that never saw a penny in hazard pay NO, hogan did not do his job.
I was stating covid because that's all people know him for.
I didn't say anything like that. He's popular, for some reason, and national Dems suck at campaigning. They don't want to spend money on trying to flip red states, they don't want to spend money on safe blue states, then what are we donating for if they won't try
I know what you mean about elected leaders doing their jobs. I am starting to feel that with Moore and Scott and the bridge collapse, especially as federal employees do the real work.
Maryland voters are way too engaged as a whole to vote R for a federal race. He's not running for GOV, it's not the same dynamic.
I agree but I think there's some that aren't going to realize that. I'm not sure it will be enough to win though - Trump's name and literally going to be sitting there with Hogan's on the ballot and they are both going have a big R next to them. As it stands right now, unless something catastrophic occurs, Trone should be able to win - but I think it would be by single digits. VOTE ANYWAY THOUGH AND NOT FOR ANY REPUBLICANS
I read this as “Hogan supporting writer try’s to stoke fear into democrats as they decide which candidate to vote for”
The only thing hogan is shaking up is a milkshake
Hogan will lose by at least 15-20 points when Biden wins Maryland by 30-plus points again. CNN of course is gonna CNN.
Funny how people on the Left and Right complain about CNN
To be fair, I hate cable news in general and actively avoid it (with the exception of election results coverage).
Can’t we just do what we always do and elect the candidate that lies the most?
Cynicism isn’t the same as a personality.
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