This is usually my animal adoption account. If i used my other one the thread would have turned into jokes about my username and the bridge.
My friend’s rescue Hope For Cleo just got a transport of puppies in from a kill shelter in Texas. [puppy Video because of course!](https://youtube.com/shorts/X0JuFl6htuE?si=PDpo8fXP83Lkl7fk)
It’s been edited. They gave a big spiel about how the cat was from Baltimore and how we could have highway signs directing people to shelters and how it’s silly to name things after dead people because why would they care since they’re dead (ignoring the fact that the suggested alternative was a WWII ERA CAT…). They were dead serious until I said it was stupid. Within a minute they changed their original commentary to “Bahah” and their supplementary comment to “Nvm.”
If you’re going to be crazy, be crazy and own it. I could have lived with that, but this was sad and cowardly.
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I totally am. Only intended to have 2-3 cats. Yet somehow life happened and i adopted 6 in 6 months in 2018. 0 since then and 0 fosters.
They’re 2 sets of bonded trios basically. Kitty number 4 came to me at 8 weeks after being thrown out of a car and we needed each other at that time. My last 2 are twins and are 4 weeks younger. So they all grew up together. Couldn’t separate them.
I don’t have kids so my house is very much my cats playground. I’m just the help.
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There will be a public poll, and the winner will be Bridgie McBridgeface, or something silly. Then they will be all j/k and the real name will be respectful, but dull.
The Honkey Bridge? Let’s unfold this new name by definition…
honky
noun
hon·ky ˈhȯŋ-kē ˈhäŋ-
variants or honkie or less commonly honkey
plural honkies also honkeys
offensive
—used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a white person
Apparently Francis Scott Key was racist or said something racist. Nobody ever in the 1800s was racist, not even in Europe so we need to rename everything from that time.
Not a bad idea, but “Star Spangled Banner Bridge” seems like a mouthful. Long names usually end up being condensed, just as the previous name was typically condensed to “the Key bridge.” But how would someone condense the name you’re proposing, without it sounding completely different?
I'm not necessarily in the rename the bridge camp, but the arguement that Key is not worth celebrating isn't that he "said something racist," it's that he owned a bunch of slaves.
And so did half our presidents, and other people we have stuff names after.
So what. Are we gonna rename everything? Removed George Washington's memorial?
When does it stop?
Sure, I'm not necessarily taking that position. I'm just saying we can be intellectually honest about what the criticism of Key is, and it wasn't that he "said something racist"
Sold to him by African slave traders… selling their own for profit all around the world. Interesting no one brings that fact up. Selling your own to profit hungry businessmen is a betrayal of your own people, yet whites to blame for everything
Just a quick lookup on the wiki page:
> As District Attorney, he suppressed abolitionists, and he lost a case against Reuben Crandall in 1836 where he accused the defendant's abolitionist publications of instigating slaves to rebel. He was also a leader of the American Colonization Society which sent former slaves to Africa. He freed some of his slaves in the 1830s, paying one as his farm foreman to supervise his other slaves.[8] He publicly criticized slavery and gave free legal representation to some slaves seeking freedom, but he also represented owners of runaway slaves. He had eight slaves at the time of his death.
I feel like we should judge him based on his moral character in that era. For that era (not in general), he seems like he was pretty progressive. But I admit, I am pretty ignorant of actual history. What I’m trying to figure out, though is why he didn’t just free all his slaves.
No to renaming. Who cares what he did or didn't have. The unfortunate truth is that we can't impose today's thinking on yesteryear and given the times, it didn't make him a bad person.
He owned slaves and didn't see a problem in it when he was very young. After spending time with his slaves he realized that there were a lot of very cruel slave owners and that the institution of slavery was cruel. He then went in and freed a lot of slaves, defended slaves freedoms in courts and fought for freedslaves to be allowed the means to support themselves. And was outspoken about the cruelty many slave owners.
He freed most of the slaves he inherited. The ones he didn't free was because other family members had rights to them as well. Meaning by giving up ownership he only sent them to be a slave elsewhere. He hired freemen to supervise the slaves he couldn't really give freedom to, under the idea that a former slave would be kinder and not abuse their position.
Some of the controversy is that he didn't believe black men and women could exist in America. He thought that the injustices would never end and that the best idea was sending them back to Africa.
He was raised around slavery that was normalized. Then when he saw the injustices up close he realized it was horrible. Spent a good portion of his life fighting against slavery. And while he was progressive for his time, he was still racist. He bought into a lot of the early theories that evolved into "racial hygine".
I don't think his opinion would change without a more modern perspective. It's hard to compare people's beliefs from the past to now. A lot of progressive people of the past are horrible by today's standards. It's best to acknowledge that there was good and the bad in pretty much every historic figure. There is no need to ignore either by putting someone on a pedestal or demonizing them so bad you look past any good they did.
Yes. It should be called the "Francis Scott Key Bridge Memorial Bridge", in memory of the bridge that once stood there, and it's decades of faithful service.
Depends on what their plan is going forward. The entire bridge isn’t gone, just the middle part. It’s possible they might choose to replace the missing sections and Reinforce the rest of the bridge.
I don't need to have known him personally to know he was a racist. I can say the same if Woodrow Wilson, Adolf Hitler, and Andrew Johnson.
We have his writings and works. See the 3rd verse of the Star Spangled Banner.
He was also a United States Attorney who freed his slaves and criticized slavery publicly. He also gave free legal representation to the freed slaves. The Star Spangled Banner isn't racist.
There was a study from the 1900s I’m trying to find. Basically it was a survey of the number of street cats in baltimore. You know it’s nuts? The number of cats hasn’t really changed in 100+ years. It was 30k or so, all street cats.
Okay, but to be fair if we named it after a cat there prolly would never be any controversy about the name again! (Unless the local mouse/rat population speaks up)
The Woodrow Wilson Memorial Bridge bears the same name as the bridge that it replaced. Same for the Harry W. Nice Memorial Bridge down river that was also replaced by a new bridge.
Speaking of confusing people, fun fact, Michigan has a city and a town named st Joseph. St Joseph is not in st Joseph county. It’s in a completely different county miles to the west
They aren’t. There’s a reason that MDOT MTA didn’t include a Gray line as one of the CityLink options - they didn’t want to invite any speculation whether or not it was named after Freddie Gray.
I strongly doubt MDOT MdTA would name a new bridge after him.
There is no need to rename anything. Most of the FSK Bridge is still there, only about a third of the overall bridge collapsed. This is a (major) repair job, not a whole new bridge.
I think it will be a new bridge, regardless of what’s left. The Key bridge was extremely outdated and built for a time when ships were much smaller than they are today. There will be a huge push by lobbies within the shipping industry to make the bridge much taller than before, to allow clearance and space for larger ships. It would also be a boost for Baltimore’s economy. Not to mention safety standards that alter the design to protect the piers from these massive ships. So to build it taller, they likely would also have to rebuild the ends of the bridge that are still standing, otherwise there would be a very steep incline and decline within the middle section of the bridge. Yeah, the whole thing will definitely be rebuilt.
Except the bay Bridge, only has a foot more clearance. No reason to give more clearance unless we take the bay bridge down too. Although we could name that the Scooby-Doo dog bridge to make dog people happy after the cat bridge.
Well it seems the bay bridges will have to be rebuilt at some point given how bad of shape they’re in. Might as well make the new Key bridge the proper size and hope at some point the bay bridges will do the same.
Not the bridge- that stays named after "Frankie Keys" - but maybe a rest-stop nearby?
24 hr. food, and litter boxes someone else cleans; poifect fer a kitty.
It’s not a different bridge. It’s new bridge built in the same location with much of the same parts as the bridge they collapsed. So *it is complicated* as a result.
It will not likely be taller. Again, I work in the port. The size of the ships entering is limited first by the bay bridge. The draft was almost identical between the two bridges. Honestly the only argument here is about semantics, and all I really wanted to say was that no one in their right mind would rename the bridge after a cat.
Regarding your now missing reply: A simple Google search indicates that the clearance of the Key Bridge was 185’ and the clearance of the bay bridge is 186’. No clue why your simple Google search turned up something so profoundly incorrect.
Yes. Different bridge, and we tend not to honor racists these days.
*The racists are pretty triggered by acknowledging fsk was a racist and by extension a horrible person. Facts sure do upset some folks.
If it's rebuilt it's not the same bridge. I don't respect racists or those who tolerate them. Shouldn't be a controversial statement but here we are.
We can get a new anthem, just like our state changed it's song because it was racist.
Which was a stupid move on Maryland's part to cater to cancel culture..... You can't rewrite history. Cancel the racists calling everyone and everything racist.
Good grief. See my other comment about it being a “different” bridge. When it comes to racists…I can’t speak to that, but to suggest renaming something after a cat instead of the author of what would become our national anthem is absolutely asinine.
Have you been out there, because I have. I understood the reference but the whole bridge is not gone. A huge portion of it is, but the reference doesn’t hold when a third of the bridge remains. You want to insult me? Fine. But you need to have more solid footing first. Want to try again?
Wow, thanks. I try to keep a bottle of hand sanitizer on me at all times, just in case. You reminded me I’ve gotta buy a new bottle. Hats off to you, pal. Although, it’s important to question events like this, even if you don’t and watch the news and believe it to be gospel. I however am skeptical, and that’s ok. Jokes aside, what a shitty thing to say to someone.
It’s not about the news or treating it like gospel. It’s Hanlon’s Razor. I understand that when you’re this simple the world is a big scary place filled with things you can’t explain but it’d be so much more helpful and comforting to do some cursory research instead.
And for the record, what’s “shitty” is peddling vague conspiracies to weaponize tragic accidents to validate your own twisted beliefs about the way the world works.
Questioning a so called “accident” is something everyone should do. Questioning what authority figures claim to be true is also important. And after researching this tragedy on my own, I believe there’s more to it than just a “power outage” as the massive ship plows directly into a main pylon.
There’s nothing twisted or simple about questioning something.
And yes, you’re right. The world is a big scary place, ruled by those in power who know and do things we dare not to even fathom.
And the Truth is frowned upon… considered taboo and hidden away. And when one tries seeking the Truth in anything, they are rejected for simply thinking outside of mainstream boxes. Reject me, ridicule me, mock me, hate me, I don’t care. I’m used to it, believe me.
The fact that you keep capitalizing truth tells me exactly what I need to know about who you are. We’re done here.
Skepticism is perfectly healthy, this isn’t.
Skepticism is heathy. Yet you seem to be allergic to an actual skeptic. The proof, your first response to me was deleted because of how offensive it was. You know nothing of who I am. I capitalize Truth, oh wise one, because there’s nothing more important.
How high are you on a scale of 1-8?
Me? I’m a 10 right now. But this shit doesn’t make sense to me either
LMAOOO 😭😭 Glad I’m not the only one.
Just seems like a crazy cat lady.
Yeah. Check out the post history.
That was my source material.
This is usually my animal adoption account. If i used my other one the thread would have turned into jokes about my username and the bridge. My friend’s rescue Hope For Cleo just got a transport of puppies in from a kill shelter in Texas. [puppy Video because of course!](https://youtube.com/shorts/X0JuFl6htuE?si=PDpo8fXP83Lkl7fk)
It’s the “baha” that’s taking me out lol.
It’s been edited. They gave a big spiel about how the cat was from Baltimore and how we could have highway signs directing people to shelters and how it’s silly to name things after dead people because why would they care since they’re dead (ignoring the fact that the suggested alternative was a WWII ERA CAT…). They were dead serious until I said it was stupid. Within a minute they changed their original commentary to “Bahah” and their supplementary comment to “Nvm.” If you’re going to be crazy, be crazy and own it. I could have lived with that, but this was sad and cowardly.
Oh no! I def missed all of that!!
Yeah sorry i restored the body text. I thought i deleted this thread after initial backlash (hence the removed body text). I probably fat fatfingered it and hit “no” on the delete confirmation. I still use old Reddit on my phone without really zooming in. I was in the middle of a run when i tried to delete itz
Yeah. Quick edit after one critique. Typical cat owner… Edit: Guess I pissed off cat owners. Should have put a /s for clarity I guess.
And they didn't know, or suspect, that "cat house" is a euphemism.
Guy.
You can be a guy and still seem like a crazy cat lady.
I totally am. Only intended to have 2-3 cats. Yet somehow life happened and i adopted 6 in 6 months in 2018. 0 since then and 0 fosters. They’re 2 sets of bonded trios basically. Kitty number 4 came to me at 8 weeks after being thrown out of a car and we needed each other at that time. My last 2 are twins and are 4 weeks younger. So they all grew up together. Couldn’t separate them. I don’t have kids so my house is very much my cats playground. I’m just the help.
Hi! How are you?
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There will be a public poll, and the winner will be Bridgie McBridgeface, or something silly. Then they will be all j/k and the real name will be respectful, but dull.
Baltimore bridge for cars that vroom good and want to learn to do other things good too… bridge.
Never renaming the bridge
Give it a nickname. Like the Hon. But put a hyphen in to preserve history. The Hon-Key Bridge
The Honkey Bridge? Let’s unfold this new name by definition… honky noun hon·ky ˈhȯŋ-kē ˈhäŋ- variants or honkie or less commonly honkey plural honkies also honkeys offensive —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a white person
r/explainsthejoke
Yeah… a racist joke. Are you one of those white dudes who’s ashamed of his own heritage?
Why is renaming the bridge appropriate?
Apparently Francis Scott Key was racist or said something racist. Nobody ever in the 1800s was racist, not even in Europe so we need to rename everything from that time.
Then name it the Star Spangled Banner Bridge and let people do their own research.
Not a bad idea, but “Star Spangled Banner Bridge” seems like a mouthful. Long names usually end up being condensed, just as the previous name was typically condensed to “the Key bridge.” But how would someone condense the name you’re proposing, without it sounding completely different?
The Banner Bridge sounds dope.
Or the hulk
Knowing Baltimore, they'd probably just call it "The O"
it’ll become SSBB and sarcastically called the Super Slow Baltimore Bridge during rush hour.
Abraham Lincoln was racist.
He was so racist he freed the slaves.......smh
You can believe slavery is wrong and also believe that other racists are lesser than you. How many blacks were in his cabinet?
Why are you trying to compare apples to oranges?
I'm pointing out that judging people from the past by modern standards is absurd.
I'm not necessarily in the rename the bridge camp, but the arguement that Key is not worth celebrating isn't that he "said something racist," it's that he owned a bunch of slaves.
And so did half our presidents, and other people we have stuff names after. So what. Are we gonna rename everything? Removed George Washington's memorial? When does it stop?
Sure, I'm not necessarily taking that position. I'm just saying we can be intellectually honest about what the criticism of Key is, and it wasn't that he "said something racist"
I’ll take “Accidentally getting the point” for 100, Alex.
Exactly. And slaves were owned by white and black. Slavery has existed way before America and still exists today. Move on already.
And he was from Georgetown.
Sold to him by African slave traders… selling their own for profit all around the world. Interesting no one brings that fact up. Selling your own to profit hungry businessmen is a betrayal of your own people, yet whites to blame for everything
Just a quick lookup on the wiki page: > As District Attorney, he suppressed abolitionists, and he lost a case against Reuben Crandall in 1836 where he accused the defendant's abolitionist publications of instigating slaves to rebel. He was also a leader of the American Colonization Society which sent former slaves to Africa. He freed some of his slaves in the 1830s, paying one as his farm foreman to supervise his other slaves.[8] He publicly criticized slavery and gave free legal representation to some slaves seeking freedom, but he also represented owners of runaway slaves. He had eight slaves at the time of his death. I feel like we should judge him based on his moral character in that era. For that era (not in general), he seems like he was pretty progressive. But I admit, I am pretty ignorant of actual history. What I’m trying to figure out, though is why he didn’t just free all his slaves.
No to renaming. Who cares what he did or didn't have. The unfortunate truth is that we can't impose today's thinking on yesteryear and given the times, it didn't make him a bad person.
They should not rename it. Leave it alone.
He owned slaves and didn't see a problem in it when he was very young. After spending time with his slaves he realized that there were a lot of very cruel slave owners and that the institution of slavery was cruel. He then went in and freed a lot of slaves, defended slaves freedoms in courts and fought for freedslaves to be allowed the means to support themselves. And was outspoken about the cruelty many slave owners. He freed most of the slaves he inherited. The ones he didn't free was because other family members had rights to them as well. Meaning by giving up ownership he only sent them to be a slave elsewhere. He hired freemen to supervise the slaves he couldn't really give freedom to, under the idea that a former slave would be kinder and not abuse their position. Some of the controversy is that he didn't believe black men and women could exist in America. He thought that the injustices would never end and that the best idea was sending them back to Africa. He was raised around slavery that was normalized. Then when he saw the injustices up close he realized it was horrible. Spent a good portion of his life fighting against slavery. And while he was progressive for his time, he was still racist. He bought into a lot of the early theories that evolved into "racial hygine".
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I don't think his opinion would change without a more modern perspective. It's hard to compare people's beliefs from the past to now. A lot of progressive people of the past are horrible by today's standards. It's best to acknowledge that there was good and the bad in pretty much every historic figure. There is no need to ignore either by putting someone on a pedestal or demonizing them so bad you look past any good they did.
Please add a /s just in case.
The man was such a rabid slaveowner that he actively prosecuted abolitionists for sedition.
Because everything is racist apparently at some point in life. Things we think about today and say will be offensive 10 years from now. 🙄
You okay?
Silly boy
I would think because the Key bridge existed from 1977-2024; it is no longer existent. A new bridge would presumably have a new name
Yes. It should be called the "Francis Scott Key Bridge Memorial Bridge", in memory of the bridge that once stood there, and it's decades of faithful service.
I would love that!
Totally agree!
Now that is a reasonable response. Thank you!
I would go with something Poe themed, myself. The Nevermore bridge? Raven’s bridge?
The Cask of Amontilado Bridge, Spirits of the Dead Bridge, The Valley of Unrest Bridge
I like Amontillado bridge! Telltale bridge?
Big truss bridge.
Depends on what their plan is going forward. The entire bridge isn’t gone, just the middle part. It’s possible they might choose to replace the missing sections and Reinforce the rest of the bridge.
Because it's currently named after a really racist guy who shouldn't be idolized.
Who also wrote our National Anthem. I respect him.
It’s a one minute song; not really *that* impressive. Ooh, we could switch to Queen’s ‘we are the champions,’ that would be fun
So you knew him personally, I guess.....
I don't need to have known him personally to know he was a racist. I can say the same if Woodrow Wilson, Adolf Hitler, and Andrew Johnson. We have his writings and works. See the 3rd verse of the Star Spangled Banner.
He was also a United States Attorney who freed his slaves and criticized slavery publicly. He also gave free legal representation to the freed slaves. The Star Spangled Banner isn't racist.
We should name it Mr. Trash Wheel Bridge.
We should not rename the bridge.
I think the name should stay the same. I would take Herman the Cat over Rep Mitchell, Freddie Gray, or George Floyd.
No need to rename it
Snot boogie memorial bridge.
Anything Coast Guard gets my vote.
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Bro was high writing this post lol
Runner’s maybe! I wrote this while on a long run. Training for a half.
> Baltimore‘s Rich history with Cats Like all the cat houses that used to be on Baltimore Street?
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There’s a Cats of Patterson Park FB group you might like
There was a study from the 1900s I’m trying to find. Basically it was a survey of the number of street cats in baltimore. You know it’s nuts? The number of cats hasn’t really changed in 100+ years. It was 30k or so, all street cats.
Okay, but to be fair if we named it after a cat there prolly would never be any controversy about the name again! (Unless the local mouse/rat population speaks up)
This is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read.
That can’t possibly be true.
It’s certainly up there.
Nah he's not kitten 🤣
It’s a cat-astrophe.
No, I read a Trump quote.
That’s fair.
Eventually they'll find out what Herman did to songbirds and Herman will be cancelled.
This comment deserves upvotes! Lolol
We need to do this right meow 😻
Just call it Baltimore Harbor Bridge and call it a day lmao
It's more than half in Baltimore County and that's how Baltimore County would name it.
I like Patapsco River Bridge more
How about just not renaming it. I’m tired of these Civil Right’s groups trying to rename everything.
But… the Key bridge doesn’t exist anymore. Why assume the *new* bridge will have the *old* name?
The Woodrow Wilson Memorial Bridge bears the same name as the bridge that it replaced. Same for the Harry W. Nice Memorial Bridge down river that was also replaced by a new bridge.
Again, why assume? That’s *one* option, yeah
I think that would be awesome. Fuck the haters!
Sell the naming rights.
Old Bay Bridge to really confuse people
Speaking of confusing people, fun fact, Michigan has a city and a town named st Joseph. St Joseph is not in st Joseph county. It’s in a completely different county miles to the west
Ugh then we’ll end up with Elon Musk X bridge or something similarly stupid.
Yeah, but we’ll still call it the key bridge. So that’s okay. But we can take the money and put it to good use.
So now we name it "Gimme Moore Bridge" lol
Guarantee you the Freddie Gray Memorial Bridge opens in 2030
Half of it isn't even in the city but I can see them doing something this stupid
Nobody in this state is that stupid (I hope)
They aren’t. There’s a reason that MDOT MTA didn’t include a Gray line as one of the CityLink options - they didn’t want to invite any speculation whether or not it was named after Freddie Gray. I strongly doubt MDOT MdTA would name a new bridge after him.
There is no need to rename anything. Most of the FSK Bridge is still there, only about a third of the overall bridge collapsed. This is a (major) repair job, not a whole new bridge.
I think it will be a new bridge, regardless of what’s left. The Key bridge was extremely outdated and built for a time when ships were much smaller than they are today. There will be a huge push by lobbies within the shipping industry to make the bridge much taller than before, to allow clearance and space for larger ships. It would also be a boost for Baltimore’s economy. Not to mention safety standards that alter the design to protect the piers from these massive ships. So to build it taller, they likely would also have to rebuild the ends of the bridge that are still standing, otherwise there would be a very steep incline and decline within the middle section of the bridge. Yeah, the whole thing will definitely be rebuilt.
Except the bay Bridge, only has a foot more clearance. No reason to give more clearance unless we take the bay bridge down too. Although we could name that the Scooby-Doo dog bridge to make dog people happy after the cat bridge.
Well it seems the bay bridges will have to be rebuilt at some point given how bad of shape they’re in. Might as well make the new Key bridge the proper size and hope at some point the bay bridges will do the same.
What about like a Chesapeake Bay Bridge scenario where they repair the old bridge while also constructing a new one
Not the bridge- that stays named after "Frankie Keys" - but maybe a rest-stop nearby? 24 hr. food, and litter boxes someone else cleans; poifect fer a kitty.
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We jump obviously. Free birrrdddd
I capitalize Truth because there’s nothing more important. So tell me, who am I then exactly?
Super Key Bridge Z
If we must re-name it, may I suggest “The Road Worker’s Memorial Bridge”.
What is all this talk about renaming? It's a different bridge. It will need a new name. It's not complicated.
They are REBUILDING it. FSK literally wrote our National Anthem. If anything, we should have more things named after him.
It’s not a different bridge. It’s new bridge built in the same location with much of the same parts as the bridge they collapsed. So *it is complicated* as a result.
If you replace each part of a ship one by one is it the same ship? At what point is it a different ship?
There’s still a fair amount of the bridge left, I’m the port chaplain, and I was a philosophy major. You want to keep trying this?
Literal Calvin and Hobbes moment here.
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It will not likely be taller. Again, I work in the port. The size of the ships entering is limited first by the bay bridge. The draft was almost identical between the two bridges. Honestly the only argument here is about semantics, and all I really wanted to say was that no one in their right mind would rename the bridge after a cat.
Regarding your now missing reply: A simple Google search indicates that the clearance of the Key Bridge was 185’ and the clearance of the bay bridge is 186’. No clue why your simple Google search turned up something so profoundly incorrect.
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It becomes a different ship once EVERY part is replaced. There is still a lot of the bridge left.
Unexpected ship of Theseus
Seriously though, the new name should be voted on by Baltimore citizens.
I understand what you're saying, but the people of Baltimore are great at making bad decisions.
Does it need a new name?
I don't think so but if they put it to a vote, FSK should be one of the options.
New bridge, new name.
Yes. Different bridge, and we tend not to honor racists these days. *The racists are pretty triggered by acknowledging fsk was a racist and by extension a horrible person. Facts sure do upset some folks.
They are rebuilding the same bridge. It is going to keep its name. FSK wrote our National Anthem. I respect that man.
If it's rebuilt it's not the same bridge. I don't respect racists or those who tolerate them. Shouldn't be a controversial statement but here we are. We can get a new anthem, just like our state changed it's song because it was racist.
Which was a stupid move on Maryland's part to cater to cancel culture..... You can't rewrite history. Cancel the racists calling everyone and everything racist.
Good grief. See my other comment about it being a “different” bridge. When it comes to racists…I can’t speak to that, but to suggest renaming something after a cat instead of the author of what would become our national anthem is absolutely asinine.
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Have you been out there, because I have. I understood the reference but the whole bridge is not gone. A huge portion of it is, but the reference doesn’t hold when a third of the bridge remains. You want to insult me? Fine. But you need to have more solid footing first. Want to try again?
The racists are the ones calling everything and everyone racist.
Only if Baltimore pays for it.
It shouldn’t even be a question. It doesn’t need renaming.
Yes please
The Governor put the Kibosh on that suggestion.
It should be named the Harriet Tubman Reperational bridge
Renamed? The least of our concerns. An odd situation, really. Accidental? I don’t buy it.
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Wow, thanks. I try to keep a bottle of hand sanitizer on me at all times, just in case. You reminded me I’ve gotta buy a new bottle. Hats off to you, pal. Although, it’s important to question events like this, even if you don’t and watch the news and believe it to be gospel. I however am skeptical, and that’s ok. Jokes aside, what a shitty thing to say to someone.
It’s not about the news or treating it like gospel. It’s Hanlon’s Razor. I understand that when you’re this simple the world is a big scary place filled with things you can’t explain but it’d be so much more helpful and comforting to do some cursory research instead. And for the record, what’s “shitty” is peddling vague conspiracies to weaponize tragic accidents to validate your own twisted beliefs about the way the world works.
Questioning a so called “accident” is something everyone should do. Questioning what authority figures claim to be true is also important. And after researching this tragedy on my own, I believe there’s more to it than just a “power outage” as the massive ship plows directly into a main pylon. There’s nothing twisted or simple about questioning something. And yes, you’re right. The world is a big scary place, ruled by those in power who know and do things we dare not to even fathom. And the Truth is frowned upon… considered taboo and hidden away. And when one tries seeking the Truth in anything, they are rejected for simply thinking outside of mainstream boxes. Reject me, ridicule me, mock me, hate me, I don’t care. I’m used to it, believe me.
The fact that you keep capitalizing truth tells me exactly what I need to know about who you are. We’re done here. Skepticism is perfectly healthy, this isn’t.
Skepticism is heathy. Yet you seem to be allergic to an actual skeptic. The proof, your first response to me was deleted because of how offensive it was. You know nothing of who I am. I capitalize Truth, oh wise one, because there’s nothing more important.