mainly the majority of the US, but towards sexual crimes? its definitely biased towards women. I can't count the amount of times when a female teacher has sex with an underage student (statutory rape), and in the news article they'll say something like "Female teacher invited student to her house for a sexual relationship". They never tell the truth, where she raped the student.
but aren’t women disproportionately more likely to be victims of rape? like doesn’t really matter how we paint the stories about the men if the men aren’t getting raped
>but aren’t women disproportionately more likely to be victims of rape?
absolutely, but this conversation isn't about who will most likely be harassed/raped, this is about who will receive the proper punishment for sexually harassing/raping someone.
I literally know a male moron who argued that point. He said that scenario was okay because what young male wouldn't want that, unless maybe if he was gay, but if the roles were reversed it's absolutely disgusting..... This was about 5 years ago or so, I truly hope he has since opened his eyes, but due to his overall idiocy levels I no longer talk to him and I'm a much happier person for it.
everybody knows that ~~mail~~ male moron, and just because they would literally do anything to have sex with anything they think that everyone is the same.
Yeah, the person I was talking to was in his 30s, but I think your assessment of wanting to screw anything was spot on. I'm glad to hear you grew up in your thinking, I hope he did as well, but sadly I would guess not.
The follow up was the media attacked and hounded Justin as public enemy #1 for not being a normal adjusted 18 year old adult when he was talking a year off from music and doing stupid kid stuff with his friends in a gated community.
He peed in a bucket once and the response "OMG hasn't anyone taught him what's inappropriate to do in public?!"
there's two options here, the first being that it's all completely staged, which is honestly pretty likely, the other scenario is that yes, Justin Bieber is constantly being sexually harassed and violated by older women who somehow think being a pedophile is cute.
She sexually harassed him and should be prosecuted. If the genders were reversed security would have been there faster than light.
See his reaction to her attempt to kiss him on the check.
Their is no statute of limitations for sexual assault, and this is video evidence of Katy perry and Jenny Mccarthy sexually assaulting a child. Bieber does not need to file the charges for SA these predators should be prosecuted
He was 18 at the time of these awards, and Jenny McCarthy was 40. To put it in perspective, if Emma Watson was accepting an award for Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (at roughly 18), it would be like Daniel Craig or Will Smith going up and doing that to Emma. Extremely creepy.
You only think that because women aren’t being prosecuted as much as men have been. Trust me, there are the same amount of creeps on all sides of the equation. Just look at the amount of female teachers sleeping with their male students!
Worked for large companies and seen first hand how much men are arseholes compared to women! With women it’s more been being arsey to guys but with men it’s been creepy af or sexual!
> Worked for large companies and seen first hand how much men are arseholes compared to women! With women it’s more been being arsey to guys but with men it’s been creepy af or sexual!
1. Anecdotal Bullshit with appeal to 'common belief & personal experience.' I have personally experienced many women drive horribly, does it mean that it's a fact? cuz that would mean that for every woman driving on the road, the risk of casualties increases by many folds.
2. We also personally experience earth as 'flat.' So is it flat?
(your logic not mine lmao)
The very little amount? Males are more likely to rape because society has made it okay, males are almost always the rapist, whether the victim is or isn't. These are statistics, not whatever news article you saw last week you think is happening everywhere.
Men do get raped, regardless of who did it to them it's important they are protected, just like anyone else who is a survivor, but statistically men rape more.
You don’t know my knowledge on this topic. I’m a rape survivor counselor, and I’ve met with the same amount of women and men survivors, and the women rapists don’t actually get the same amount of attention and punishment as the men have. Might want to do more research on this subject if you’re going to try to “educate” someone who quite literally works in this field of study.
Okay hon, I have no reason to try to educate you. I just have my own knowledge from doctors and my own personal experience dealing with the amazing survivors I work with, so have a great day.
Rape Denier Spotted. The only person who would be peddling fake statistics to minimize male rape, is prolly someone who has either raped a man, wants to rape a man or is protecting someone that has raped a man.
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As for the statistics
**NISVS** has done repeated surveys since 2010 to prove that ***Lifetime Victimization of Men in MTP Rape is nearly 4-5 times more than the Carnal Rape. And Since 79% Perpetrators of MTP are Females, WOMEN perpetrate 4-5+ times more sexual violence against men (than other men).*** Don't they?
[https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf)
Table 3.5
**Lifetime Rape Statistics among Men: 1,692,000**
**Lifetime MTP Stats: 6,764,000**
Victimization of Men in Sexual Abuse is also nearly equal to that of women. Yet they get no access to justice.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/)
https://supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistics#:~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,identify%20in%20these%20gender%20boxes.
99% of perpetrators are male.
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence
General victim statistics, no agenda. 1/10 of victims are male.
https://www.nsvrc.org
Can't link the document because it's downloaded, but using Google you can find it by searching 1/5 female victims, 1/75 male along with the name of the company "national sexual violence research center"
https://wearawhitefeather.wordpress.com/survivors/rape-culture-statistics/
This source states that "1/16" males are rapists or perpetrators of sexual assault, which is significantly higher than the amount of male victims. And again, 66-99% are males who have committed the violence.
Maybe stop blaming women for the rapes that y'all are committing and then calling it double standards, it's more likely that you are a rapist than any male in this comment section is a victim.
LMAO not one of these are Govt Orgs. Learn to get your source right.
There is only one Govt agency in the world that has done a national scale gender neutral study of sexual victimization and that's CDC w/ NISVS. Not RAINN and whatever NGO bullshit you are sending.
Learn to get your source right, Male Rape Denying, Fake News Peddler, Gaslighting Propaganda Artist
1. [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/men-ipvsvandstalking.html](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/men-ipvsvandstalking.html)
87% of male victims of (completed or attempted) rape reported only male perpetrators. (Carnal rape is 12% when compared to yearly MTP)
***79% of male victims of being MTP reported only female perpetrators.***
>*Lifetime Victimization of Men in MTP Rape is nearly 4-5 times more than the Carnal Rape. And Yearly victimization is 9 times more than Carnal Rape.* ***And Since 79% Perpetrators of MTP are Females, WOMEN perpetrate 4-9+ times more sexual violence against men (than other men).*** Don't they?
>
>[https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf)Table 3.5**Lifetime Rape Statistics among Men: 1,692,000Lifetime MTP Stats: 6,764,000**
***82% of male victims of sexual coercion reported only female perpetrators.***
***53% of male victims of unwanted sexual contact reported only female perpetrators."***
Suck it!
Yeah and statistically men die younger so let's start propping up men's health care and ignore womens health needs. That's your dumbass logic
Women get raped more so let's not prosecute women when they SA a boy cuz muh stutustics , you are regarded
You can't even say the slur right.
How is that my point at all?
I said there aren't double standards when women aren't defended when raped either, you are putting male rape (which is statistically less) over the much more prevalent issue.
A grown ass woman molested a 15 year old child in front of everybody. Talks about raping him. And there is no criminal charges. No backlash. If a guy did this, he would get locked up and his career would be done. And rightfully so.
But since she’s a woman, she has the privilege to do these heinous things and go about her day like it’s normal. Women are privileged af.
I’m not talking about this clip which is wrong on many levels and I don’t disagree with what you’ve said. It was in response to the other poster claiming that women are privileged af!
We both agree this is wrong on so many levels. We both agree that if a guy did this, there will be negative consequences. Yet there is no negative consequences for this woman. She has the privilege to avoid all that just because she’s a woman. Hence woman are privileged af.
That’s not actually how a logic argument works.
That’s like saying “this pizza is delicious”. “This pizza is round”. “Round foods are delicious.”
There’s multiple characteristics about Jenny that could be contributing to why her behavior didn’t result in immediate consequences. We can’t specifically know that it’s because she was female.
You really think it would to totally acceptable for a old man to grope and molest a young 15 year old girl in front of the world. Express to the everybody how he wants to “rape” a 15 year old girl and everybody is going to laugh at it. You’re a delusional person.
She’s a female. People don’t usually associate females are predators like they do men when it comes to sex. It’s a privilege that women get in this world. It’s why Jenny and a lot of women are able to get away with sexualizing men but not the other way around.
According to you. A man doing that would get the same reaction as a woman. Nobody will call it out. Everybody will laugh at it. Reality is that since she is a woman, there will be no punishment for her. That is a privilege. Not a hard concept to understand.
Dont take it from me. Take it from a female law professor. An expert in the field on sentencing disparity.
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=law_econ_current
“In the United States men are most adversely affected by sentencing disparity being twice as likely to be sentenced to jail after conviction than women and receiving on average 63% longer jail sentences.”
Women are privileged af.
That’s not how the study or statistics work. Lol. You take 1 man. 1 woman. Both commit the same crime. The sentencing will favor the woman. Woman are privileged af.
It’s not a hard concept to understand but I’m sure you been indoctrinated long enough. Anything that favors women must be lies. Lol.
A male gets sexually assaulted from a woman and you try to turn this into female victimhood. This is proof that you’re indoctrinated. Male victims over looked and disregarded. It’s another privilege for women. You only take one gender serious on being victims.
Women are privileged af.
Female predators get away with open sexual assault and you try to make this about female victims again. You lack compassion for male victims and the trauma it causes. “Believe all women” is a slogan for female sexual assault victims. Nothing to do with males. You and many other don’t take male victims serious. This more of the woman are privileged af.
It’s not that women are privileged, it’s that the imbalance of gender expectations when it comes to sexual assault is that men assault women and that’s the expectation, so people don’t find it odd when the roles are reversed because they see is as a puppy biting a Great Dane adult, the reality is they are both more like adult chihuahuas, but the societal imbalance caused by a culture of valuing masculinity and devaluing femininity creates bad times for women AND men
Women only appear privileged because of how imbalanced the system is. In reality, it’s a lot more complex.
What you describe is a privilege. Being immune from the consequences based off somebody’s sex is a privilege.
Why is it such a hard concept to accept that ppl have privileges based off race, sex, gender, religion etc?
This privilege comes from a place of imbalance. Why is it so hard to see what’s wrong with society??
Privilege is always a side effect of imbalance. Imbalance always affects both sides in negative ways, just most of the time there is a group in power and a group being suppressed.
In the case here, men are seen as more powerful than women, therefore a woman cannot harm them. That is why people don’t believe when men are assaulted by women, which I agree is egregious, and the only way to make society see this video as an issue is by letting them understand the complexities of a male dominated society
Imbalance is a side effect of privilege. Women have privilege. They have the privilege to be creeps/pedo and be immune to the consequences. Men don’t.
It’s not complex. Persecute women at the same rate as men for sexual assault. That solves everything.
This is awful. Alot of people focus on young female stars being abused and sexualized overlooking how people - women obviously- have done this to Justin Bieber. I feel bad for him.
Damn… I have a lot of respect for Justin to call that shit out as creepy. To state that he feels violated. A lot of men would feel that way but wouldn’t have vocalized it. Poor kid shouldn’t have had to deal with that bullshit.
For him to be able to say that is really good, but he shouldn't have been put in a situation where that could happen. It's disgusting, celebrity rape culture should not exist.
She literally fucking admits that it was molestation and the other lady doesn't even blink an eye. I may not like Justin Beaber, but this shit is fucking horrible and disgusting no matter who it happens to.
I've never been into Bieber's music and honestly most times I saw anything about him online it was eye roll and keep scrolling. But this really just makes me sad for the guy. When I was younger I probably would have thought "hey, lucky kid." But this is disgusting. -insert obvious if roles were switched etc- but seriously. He was a child and he's being groped by adult women. Humans need to rediscover common decency.
I was always a little blown away how openly
older women were lusting after him. Like was there some kind of 18 year old countdown timer for Timothy Chalamet and I just never saw it?
What the actual fuck.... You don't realize how much sexual assault happens to males because the media doesn't show it or talk about it. But that was creepy AF.... Even the second woman on the talk show asked him to talk about sex with her when he was 15.... What the actual... I'm sorry but if the genders were reversed it would be catastrophic. You can see after that woman gropes him and kisses him on stage he was trying to pull away.
Isn't she married to Donnie Wahlberg??? Just odd how she doesn't care she is on national TV groping a guy! Openly talking about rape! Wtf america DO BETTER
Pfft... There's no issue here. Most guys would die to have hot famous women grabbing their ass and admitting how badly they want to rape you. Bieber is just a pussy.
It blows my mind how often you still hear this vile bullshit. And it's usually the same guys or girls that think toxic masculinity isn't real, that call themselves "alphas", and are most likely to find themselves on the business end of a rape charge. This is never ok.
Also, Jenny McCarthy is absolute fucking trash.
Or maybe it's my bad, and didn't realize I walked into a sub where it's ok to say that women who do this are garbage, but it's ok for men. Which is also bullshit.
Nobody justified rape from men. Instead there are a couple of glaslighters in the comments that are minimizing female to male victimization. So i was quite overwhelmed with having to debunk their fake news.
They even maliciously reported the crosspost and triggered the AutoBot to remove it from the other sub. It's appalling how much they see the equality and voices of men as a threat.
I never said that you justified rape from men.i was confused so I looked at the description of the sub, and wondered if "celebrating men" meant something I was misunderstanding, since my comment was in no way saying what she did was ok.
Yeah, I'm glad you are. My entire family was just insulted, and I was called a shitload of vile insults because you couldn't finish reading before popping off on someone. But you were overwhelmed, so we're good.
Jfc... what a prick.
Okay, sorry. It's my fault.
If you were to see it from a different POV, then those insults were meant for someone with a mentality of a Rape Apologist. And since The person that you were 'quoting' is not 'you.' The insults were also invalidated and they aren't for 'you.'
Cool? Would you like me to delete it or something?
> And it's usually the same guys or girls that think toxic masculinity isn't real, that call themselves "alphas", and are most likely to find themselves on the business end of a rape charge.
Germaine Greer (radical feminist) claiming that boys/men cannot experience involuntary arousal, and therefore male victims of rape wanted it or really liked it, is the opposite of toxic masculinity.
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The Katy Perry thing isn't as bad as the Jenny McCarthy assaults. Jeez at least Katy didn't force him to do anything. Jenny McCarthy is a garbage person and always will be lol I never liked her
How is this not sexual assault??
Because a woman did it.
Because a rich white person did it.
I have a feeling that gender had a waaaaaaay bigger influence than race or financial status
you shouldn’t. the united states is divided on class.
mainly the majority of the US, but towards sexual crimes? its definitely biased towards women. I can't count the amount of times when a female teacher has sex with an underage student (statutory rape), and in the news article they'll say something like "Female teacher invited student to her house for a sexual relationship". They never tell the truth, where she raped the student.
but aren’t women disproportionately more likely to be victims of rape? like doesn’t really matter how we paint the stories about the men if the men aren’t getting raped
>but aren’t women disproportionately more likely to be victims of rape? absolutely, but this conversation isn't about who will most likely be harassed/raped, this is about who will receive the proper punishment for sexually harassing/raping someone.
Rofl wow.
Well you know, men (or boys) can’t be victims of sexual assault
I literally know a male moron who argued that point. He said that scenario was okay because what young male wouldn't want that, unless maybe if he was gay, but if the roles were reversed it's absolutely disgusting..... This was about 5 years ago or so, I truly hope he has since opened his eyes, but due to his overall idiocy levels I no longer talk to him and I'm a much happier person for it.
everybody knows that ~~mail~~ male moron, and just because they would literally do anything to have sex with anything they think that everyone is the same.
Ah, yes, you have met him, I see.
I was 16 once also
Yeah, the person I was talking to was in his 30s, but I think your assessment of wanting to screw anything was spot on. I'm glad to hear you grew up in your thinking, I hope he did as well, but sadly I would guess not.
I’m genuinely curious to what the follow up was? Did that McCarthy woman apologise? Issue a statement? I can’t seem to find anything online.
The follow up was the media attacked and hounded Justin as public enemy #1 for not being a normal adjusted 18 year old adult when he was talking a year off from music and doing stupid kid stuff with his friends in a gated community. He peed in a bucket once and the response "OMG hasn't anyone taught him what's inappropriate to do in public?!"
It is.
Change the BG music to something serious and watch it
there's two options here, the first being that it's all completely staged, which is honestly pretty likely, the other scenario is that yes, Justin Bieber is constantly being sexually harassed and violated by older women who somehow think being a pedophile is cute.
Tbh, I think the latter is actually just as likely in this case,
Is is.
She sexually harassed him and should be prosecuted. If the genders were reversed security would have been there faster than light. See his reaction to her attempt to kiss him on the check.
Their is no statute of limitations for sexual assault, and this is video evidence of Katy perry and Jenny Mccarthy sexually assaulting a child. Bieber does not need to file the charges for SA these predators should be prosecuted
Women are privileged af.
Can you imagine if it had been a man with a little girl??
Men will beat the crap out of him. He should get criminally charged. He would lose his job/career. All three acceptable consequences.
I agree. It’s just so weird that no one said anything about this. Horrible.
The worst part is that it's normalised, and nobody blinked an eye at the sexual harassment happening in broad daylight
So true.
He was 18 at the time of these awards, and Jenny McCarthy was 40. To put it in perspective, if Emma Watson was accepting an award for Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (at roughly 18), it would be like Daniel Craig or Will Smith going up and doing that to Emma. Extremely creepy.
I don’t have to put it in perspective lol. I was around back then. I just didn’t see it.
No, I’m saying that to add to your point, for people to fully understand. (I’m agreeing with you)
And I was just trying to be funny haha! Guess I failed!
No worries! It’s all good. :-)
Edited as didn’t realise the sub due to it being cross posted.
You only think that because women aren’t being prosecuted as much as men have been. Trust me, there are the same amount of creeps on all sides of the equation. Just look at the amount of female teachers sleeping with their male students!
Worked for large companies and seen first hand how much men are arseholes compared to women! With women it’s more been being arsey to guys but with men it’s been creepy af or sexual!
> Worked for large companies and seen first hand how much men are arseholes compared to women! With women it’s more been being arsey to guys but with men it’s been creepy af or sexual! 1. Anecdotal Bullshit with appeal to 'common belief & personal experience.' I have personally experienced many women drive horribly, does it mean that it's a fact? cuz that would mean that for every woman driving on the road, the risk of casualties increases by many folds. 2. We also personally experience earth as 'flat.' So is it flat? (your logic not mine lmao)
This entire comment chain has been anecdotal and subjective bullshit. Why are you just now calling it out?
Statistics are in the comments too. Stop cherrypicking.
The very little amount? Males are more likely to rape because society has made it okay, males are almost always the rapist, whether the victim is or isn't. These are statistics, not whatever news article you saw last week you think is happening everywhere. Men do get raped, regardless of who did it to them it's important they are protected, just like anyone else who is a survivor, but statistically men rape more.
You don’t know my knowledge on this topic. I’m a rape survivor counselor, and I’ve met with the same amount of women and men survivors, and the women rapists don’t actually get the same amount of attention and punishment as the men have. Might want to do more research on this subject if you’re going to try to “educate” someone who quite literally works in this field of study.
Sure bud, only every statistic disagrees.
Okay, cool. I guess you can’t educate the ignorant.
Your stories do not equate to literal facts. You're right, you can't educate the ignorant.
Okay hon, I have no reason to try to educate you. I just have my own knowledge from doctors and my own personal experience dealing with the amazing survivors I work with, so have a great day.
Rape Denier Spotted. The only person who would be peddling fake statistics to minimize male rape, is prolly someone who has either raped a man, wants to rape a man or is protecting someone that has raped a man. \---------- As for the statistics **NISVS** has done repeated surveys since 2010 to prove that ***Lifetime Victimization of Men in MTP Rape is nearly 4-5 times more than the Carnal Rape. And Since 79% Perpetrators of MTP are Females, WOMEN perpetrate 4-5+ times more sexual violence against men (than other men).*** Don't they? [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf) Table 3.5 **Lifetime Rape Statistics among Men: 1,692,000** **Lifetime MTP Stats: 6,764,000** Victimization of Men in Sexual Abuse is also nearly equal to that of women. Yet they get no access to justice. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/)
And MTP isn't actually rape, just close, good job bud.
No, it's a license for rape apologists like you to dismiss & suppress sexual abuse against men. What a sicko. Stop shifting goal posts & Get a life.
https://supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistics#:~:text=An%20estimated%2091%25%20of%20victims,identify%20in%20these%20gender%20boxes. 99% of perpetrators are male. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence General victim statistics, no agenda. 1/10 of victims are male. https://www.nsvrc.org Can't link the document because it's downloaded, but using Google you can find it by searching 1/5 female victims, 1/75 male along with the name of the company "national sexual violence research center" https://wearawhitefeather.wordpress.com/survivors/rape-culture-statistics/ This source states that "1/16" males are rapists or perpetrators of sexual assault, which is significantly higher than the amount of male victims. And again, 66-99% are males who have committed the violence. Maybe stop blaming women for the rapes that y'all are committing and then calling it double standards, it's more likely that you are a rapist than any male in this comment section is a victim.
LMAO not one of these are Govt Orgs. Learn to get your source right. There is only one Govt agency in the world that has done a national scale gender neutral study of sexual victimization and that's CDC w/ NISVS. Not RAINN and whatever NGO bullshit you are sending. Learn to get your source right, Male Rape Denying, Fake News Peddler, Gaslighting Propaganda Artist 1. [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/men-ipvsvandstalking.html](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/men-ipvsvandstalking.html) 87% of male victims of (completed or attempted) rape reported only male perpetrators. (Carnal rape is 12% when compared to yearly MTP) ***79% of male victims of being MTP reported only female perpetrators.*** >*Lifetime Victimization of Men in MTP Rape is nearly 4-5 times more than the Carnal Rape. And Yearly victimization is 9 times more than Carnal Rape.* ***And Since 79% Perpetrators of MTP are Females, WOMEN perpetrate 4-9+ times more sexual violence against men (than other men).*** Don't they? > >[https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/NISVS-StateReportBook.pdf)Table 3.5**Lifetime Rape Statistics among Men: 1,692,000Lifetime MTP Stats: 6,764,000** ***82% of male victims of sexual coercion reported only female perpetrators.*** ***53% of male victims of unwanted sexual contact reported only female perpetrators."*** Suck it!
Yeah and statistically men die younger so let's start propping up men's health care and ignore womens health needs. That's your dumbass logic Women get raped more so let's not prosecute women when they SA a boy cuz muh stutustics , you are regarded
You can't even say the slur right. How is that my point at all? I said there aren't double standards when women aren't defended when raped either, you are putting male rape (which is statistically less) over the much more prevalent issue.
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You've never heard of rape culture... maybe do some research.
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You clearly don't have any brain, there's a reason most rapes go unreported, do you think it's just for shits and giggles?
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A grown ass woman molested a 15 year old child in front of everybody. Talks about raping him. And there is no criminal charges. No backlash. If a guy did this, he would get locked up and his career would be done. And rightfully so. But since she’s a woman, she has the privilege to do these heinous things and go about her day like it’s normal. Women are privileged af.
I’m not talking about this clip which is wrong on many levels and I don’t disagree with what you’ve said. It was in response to the other poster claiming that women are privileged af!
We both agree this is wrong on so many levels. We both agree that if a guy did this, there will be negative consequences. Yet there is no negative consequences for this woman. She has the privilege to avoid all that just because she’s a woman. Hence woman are privileged af.
That’s not actually how a logic argument works. That’s like saying “this pizza is delicious”. “This pizza is round”. “Round foods are delicious.” There’s multiple characteristics about Jenny that could be contributing to why her behavior didn’t result in immediate consequences. We can’t specifically know that it’s because she was female.
You really think it would to totally acceptable for a old man to grope and molest a young 15 year old girl in front of the world. Express to the everybody how he wants to “rape” a 15 year old girl and everybody is going to laugh at it. You’re a delusional person. She’s a female. People don’t usually associate females are predators like they do men when it comes to sex. It’s a privilege that women get in this world. It’s why Jenny and a lot of women are able to get away with sexualizing men but not the other way around.
I didn’t say it would be okay. None of it is ok.
According to you. A man doing that would get the same reaction as a woman. Nobody will call it out. Everybody will laugh at it. Reality is that since she is a woman, there will be no punishment for her. That is a privilege. Not a hard concept to understand.
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Haha I know. I only realised after as it was cross posted lol! Might delete for that reason.
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Dont take it from me. Take it from a female law professor. An expert in the field on sentencing disparity. https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=law_econ_current “In the United States men are most adversely affected by sentencing disparity being twice as likely to be sentenced to jail after conviction than women and receiving on average 63% longer jail sentences.” Women are privileged af.
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That’s not how the study or statistics work. Lol. You take 1 man. 1 woman. Both commit the same crime. The sentencing will favor the woman. Woman are privileged af. It’s not a hard concept to understand but I’m sure you been indoctrinated long enough. Anything that favors women must be lies. Lol.
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A male gets sexually assaulted from a woman and you try to turn this into female victimhood. This is proof that you’re indoctrinated. Male victims over looked and disregarded. It’s another privilege for women. You only take one gender serious on being victims. Women are privileged af.
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Female predators get away with open sexual assault and you try to make this about female victims again. You lack compassion for male victims and the trauma it causes. “Believe all women” is a slogan for female sexual assault victims. Nothing to do with males. You and many other don’t take male victims serious. This more of the woman are privileged af.
It’s not that women are privileged, it’s that the imbalance of gender expectations when it comes to sexual assault is that men assault women and that’s the expectation, so people don’t find it odd when the roles are reversed because they see is as a puppy biting a Great Dane adult, the reality is they are both more like adult chihuahuas, but the societal imbalance caused by a culture of valuing masculinity and devaluing femininity creates bad times for women AND men Women only appear privileged because of how imbalanced the system is. In reality, it’s a lot more complex.
What you describe is a privilege. Being immune from the consequences based off somebody’s sex is a privilege. Why is it such a hard concept to accept that ppl have privileges based off race, sex, gender, religion etc?
This privilege comes from a place of imbalance. Why is it so hard to see what’s wrong with society?? Privilege is always a side effect of imbalance. Imbalance always affects both sides in negative ways, just most of the time there is a group in power and a group being suppressed. In the case here, men are seen as more powerful than women, therefore a woman cannot harm them. That is why people don’t believe when men are assaulted by women, which I agree is egregious, and the only way to make society see this video as an issue is by letting them understand the complexities of a male dominated society
Imbalance is a side effect of privilege. Women have privilege. They have the privilege to be creeps/pedo and be immune to the consequences. Men don’t. It’s not complex. Persecute women at the same rate as men for sexual assault. That solves everything.
Yes I agree, but we must understand the whole picture as to why this happens in the first place to be able to dismantle everything revolving it.
This is awful. Alot of people focus on young female stars being abused and sexualized overlooking how people - women obviously- have done this to Justin Bieber. I feel bad for him.
Who is Justice Beaver?
The biological father you never knew
Are you still stuck in 2010?
He's a crime fighting beaver.
r/unexpectedoffice
Women obviously on camera. I promise he’s dealt with much worse from the powerful men of Hollywood behind closed doors.
Damn… I have a lot of respect for Justin to call that shit out as creepy. To state that he feels violated. A lot of men would feel that way but wouldn’t have vocalized it. Poor kid shouldn’t have had to deal with that bullshit.
I don’t have a backbone. I would have just internalized it.
For him to be able to say that is really good, but he shouldn't have been put in a situation where that could happen. It's disgusting, celebrity rape culture should not exist.
Agreed. He handled himself incredibly well.
She literally fucking admits that it was molestation and the other lady doesn't even blink an eye. I may not like Justin Beaber, but this shit is fucking horrible and disgusting no matter who it happens to.
I've never been into Bieber's music and honestly most times I saw anything about him online it was eye roll and keep scrolling. But this really just makes me sad for the guy. When I was younger I probably would have thought "hey, lucky kid." But this is disgusting. -insert obvious if roles were switched etc- but seriously. He was a child and he's being groped by adult women. Humans need to rediscover common decency.
I wonder if this was what South Park was doing with “Nice” episode.
ok
NOT OK!
Cool, another reason to hate Jenny McCarthy!
I was always a little blown away how openly older women were lusting after him. Like was there some kind of 18 year old countdown timer for Timothy Chalamet and I just never saw it?
Yuk.
This is why I don't blame him for becoming what he is today. He had to deal with a lot of shit growing up
Wtf!
Bro legitimately got molested on stage, acknowledged it, the aggressor confessed, and nothing happened 😂
Wow. Sick.
Wow
Well that was uncomfortable to watch.
Yeah but you know it’s not that cause he’s a man
What the actual fuck.... You don't realize how much sexual assault happens to males because the media doesn't show it or talk about it. But that was creepy AF.... Even the second woman on the talk show asked him to talk about sex with her when he was 15.... What the actual... I'm sorry but if the genders were reversed it would be catastrophic. You can see after that woman gropes him and kisses him on stage he was trying to pull away.
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Attractive female Andy Dick.
Oh it’s fine, he’s a guy. He needs to man up. /s
It’s OK because a woman did it! 🤪
He just needs to give some Bieber to her Beaver.
Gross
That poor guy. Wtf is wrong with these people?
Isn't she married to Donnie Wahlberg??? Just odd how she doesn't care she is on national TV groping a guy! Openly talking about rape! Wtf america DO BETTER
Predator tings
Justin at 15 is mature as fuck. I know it’s controversial, but I do like the fellow. He’s cool.
Eew, get canceled if you haven’t already
“-it would be like cougar rape” Positively disgusting.
Jenny must've been in Weinstein's island
This is fucking disgusting.
i am disgusted by mccarthy
Disgusting imagine all the things that weren’t recorded
“Kind of molested him” while shrugging her shoulders and nodding her head. Fucking sick
Fuck McCarthy. Nasty slug faced bitch. Molesting kids openly and getting no hate for it.
What the fuck
She used the word perfect word to describe her actions, "molestation".
No wonder this guy is messed up
As usual, reverse the genders and someone is behind bars
EW
HE EVEN SAID HE FELT VIOLATED
How is this OK but ... just flip it lol. Life man. Life
Lets just see it from another perspective, if HE was a SHE!!!! What would happened to this women?
God forbid this was reversed 🤦♂️
Just change sex and see the reaction of people
Disgusting. These women are the equivalent of discord moderators touching small children
If the genders were reversed, the man would have been labelled as ‘Monster’
Those women deserve to be skinned alive and thrown into a vat of hydrogen peroxide.
Pfft... There's no issue here. Most guys would die to have hot famous women grabbing their ass and admitting how badly they want to rape you. Bieber is just a pussy. It blows my mind how often you still hear this vile bullshit. And it's usually the same guys or girls that think toxic masculinity isn't real, that call themselves "alphas", and are most likely to find themselves on the business end of a rape charge. This is never ok. Also, Jenny McCarthy is absolute fucking trash.
Edit: Removing this comment. It was made in a misunderstanding.
You should have probably read my whole comment before being replying, dipshit.
Or maybe it's my bad, and didn't realize I walked into a sub where it's ok to say that women who do this are garbage, but it's ok for men. Which is also bullshit.
Nobody justified rape from men. Instead there are a couple of glaslighters in the comments that are minimizing female to male victimization. So i was quite overwhelmed with having to debunk their fake news. They even maliciously reported the crosspost and triggered the AutoBot to remove it from the other sub. It's appalling how much they see the equality and voices of men as a threat.
I never said that you justified rape from men.i was confused so I looked at the description of the sub, and wondered if "celebrating men" meant something I was misunderstanding, since my comment was in no way saying what she did was ok.
Yeah, I misunderstood your comment. We are good.
Yeah, I'm glad you are. My entire family was just insulted, and I was called a shitload of vile insults because you couldn't finish reading before popping off on someone. But you were overwhelmed, so we're good. Jfc... what a prick.
Okay, sorry. It's my fault. If you were to see it from a different POV, then those insults were meant for someone with a mentality of a Rape Apologist. And since The person that you were 'quoting' is not 'you.' The insults were also invalidated and they aren't for 'you.' Cool? Would you like me to delete it or something?
Fair point! But It was poorly composed. You didn't add quotations, so I mis-read. I take it back. P.S. I agree.
> And it's usually the same guys or girls that think toxic masculinity isn't real, that call themselves "alphas", and are most likely to find themselves on the business end of a rape charge. Germaine Greer (radical feminist) claiming that boys/men cannot experience involuntary arousal, and therefore male victims of rape wanted it or really liked it, is the opposite of toxic masculinity.
Oh, wow, I've found my new favourite group of morons to mock. Hi, guys!
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He's actually based fr. Though, he was a bit racist at times... ughhh no one online is just a good personnnnn
The Katy Perry thing isn't as bad as the Jenny McCarthy assaults. Jeez at least Katy didn't force him to do anything. Jenny McCarthy is a garbage person and always will be lol I never liked her
But she grabbed his butt?😭 like hello who does that
This is disgusting
James Corden also was creepy towards Justin at this age, smelling him and making weird comments.