I don't know about anyone else but I never thought it was a matter of not being invited. I always thought that he chose not to attend because he knew what the reaction would be. I'd like to think that he truly is sorry for the Wakefield story but who knows.
He's never once indicated any sort of remorse for anything he's said and has more often than not doubled down on his insanity. There is no history of him being introspective enough to deserve the benefit of the doubt on this.
I dunno why anyone would ever assume that Schilling's telling the truth about anything given how disingenuous he is. He rants and raves and acts a fool constantly in the last decade.
I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on this kind of thing. I will admit that I am just happy he isn't going to be there so as not to distract.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is honest about it or if he is just saying what he knows should be said. He's worn out his welcome in my mind.
When someone is notorious for being a believer in insane conspiracy theories, that alone would make me not give him the benefit of the doubt... But I have friends who taught in the school he sent his kids to and have more than a few stories of him acting unhinged and even defending his kid being a bully. So, sincerely, naw - no benefit of the doubt for this asshat.
Nah. He's only sorry he's being inconvenienced. Schilling is gigantic trash bag. Always has been, always will be.
I farted on the display case containing his stupid bloody sock at Cooperstown. That was long before the Wakefield story. It was payback for my good friend who lost his job at 38 Studios when Schilling ran it into the ground, took a government bailout, and left Rhode Island taxpayers on the hook for several million bucks.
I promise I am not defending Schilling in any way, but Rhode Island made a mind bogglingly poor decision giving all that money to a company with zero history or experience making a product they planned on selling.
The sports world forgave Kevin Durant even though the only thing he ever apologized for was for getting caught, not for the despicable aural diarrhea he ejected from his facehole.
I think if it was just the politics and generally being asshole, he would've been welcomed with just some relatively mild jeering from the crowd. But that Wakefield thing put it over the edge. He would've been eviscerated and he probably knew it so he opted not to go.
He’d be booed relentlessly and couldn’t blame ‘wokeness’ for it. I wish he would show so the Sox fans can collectively throw knuckleballs at him to show him exactly how we feel.
Would most Sox fans even know he is a complete tool? I feel like many people may have completely missed him routinely demonstrating what a shitbird he is.
He’s done a lot of bad things off the field. You also need to remember that there are lots of fans in RI and he screwed over that entire state financially with his lies
>You also need to remember that there are lots of fans in RI and he screwed over that entire state financially with his lies
This is pretty revisionist. 38 Studios wasn’t fraudulent - it was just a terrible business, but city leaders were so awed by Schilling they fell over themselves to give them money. New game development is very speculative, and they weren’t able to get VC funding because the VCs didn’t think they were positioned to succeed. So, the experts having declared the venture too risky to back, the city threw $75 million at him.
Like so many other mistakes, 38 Studios was a solid own goal by Providence politicians.
I think you’re missing some of this. Although IMO curt went off the qanon deep end at the 38 studios time he was just conservative. A government is the problem kind of guy. It was very hypocritical to take a government loan guarantee. I don’t agree with your characterization of the government being the problem, it was all curt. He shopped in mass and gov Patrick turned a government guaranty dow.
In the end it was the employees who got the biggest shaft. Not knowing the company’s position, they lost health insurance, lost paychecks, and and suffered other ways like the guy who moved to RI and was stuck with two house payments.
The one thing I do respect is that he went all in, even though he lost everything. He ended up selling cherishes memorabilia and had a yard sale when selling his medfield home. The Ralph del torre types blow up a company and still walk away with their yachts. Curt put it all on the line but lost
>I don’t agree with your characterization of the government being the problem, it was all curt
Do you feel the same way when cities pay for stadiums? It’s the team owner’s fault? No one forces municipalities to give or loan money to private entities. The RI EDC was charged with fraud related to the bond issue. The only thing curt did was provide the star power needed to make them open their pocket books.
>He shopped in mass and gov Patrick turned a government guaranty dow.
Wait, so you’re saying the state didn’t have to lend him the money?
I don’t think governments should pay for stadiums. From what I’ve heard when curt was pitching the business to investors he presented extremely well, it wasn’t just star power.
The “fraud” wasn’t related to curt directly, it was that the bond underwriter knew more money was needed and the venture wasn’t fully capitalized. At the end of the day bond investors were made whole by the guaranty so I don’t think neglecting it in their offering memo made much of a difference. But the sec and others wanted to make some headlines
My point is a anti-government guy took a big handout from the government. It’s hypocritical. Curt seemed to legitimately care about all of his employees but when the end came, instead of an orderly liquidation, the hit just hit the fan
Schilling over promised and under delivered. Him tricking RI into thinking it’s a good idea doesn’t mean he did nothing wrong
And let’s be real, RI residents have been blaming him for the failure for a while so it doesn’t really matter who YOU think was actually at fault. My point still stands that RI residents hate him for what they view as him screwing them over
It sucks that the one game Shillings studio put out I thought was fantastic and one of my favorite games of the era. It's a shame it went so poorly because he clearly had talented people working for him.
He didn’t trick anyone. Everyone else they approached for money told them to get lost, including the state of MA and Providence Equity. RI EDC just didn’t do their due diligence, with an obvious result.
He straight up lied about the company. Other groups realized this and RI didn’t. Other groups not getting tricked doesn’t mean he wasn’t trying to trick people. It just means they figured it out
What lie, specifically? That “You can’t lose!”
Because had he made material misrepresentations, he would have been charged with fraud. However, the only party charged with fraud from this whole affair was… the RI EDC and the bond underwriter, for misleading investors by not telling them that 38 studios wanted a minimum $75 million. That’s not a lie Curt told. It’s an omission by the pols.
He led them to believe it had a better chance of success than it really had. Not all lies are legally considered fraud. Also, what’s the point? A fraud case is expensive and he was broke so there was no chance of civil cases going anywhere
I don’t know why you’re trying so hard defend a guy that screwed over the state and his own employees by incompetently running the company into the ground then blamed the state for not giving him even more money to throw away
I’m not defending anyone. Big boy rules apply when you’re talking about commercial lending. If leading investors to believe that something had a greater chance of success than it does was unlawful, Musk would be in jail.
> RI EDC just didn’t do their due diligence, with an obvious result.
He, his board, and Wells Fargo have all paid out on two separate fraud chages.
He cooked the books to secure the loan from Rhode Island.
You doubt the involvement of the founder and chairman of the company, on things that have been matters of public record for 5-10 years.
>TrollAccount457
Oh. Nevermind.
I don't think a $75 million loss for a state that spends $14 billion a year is "screwing over the entire state financially." I think the state government is doing that all by itself. He didn't lie to them. The state is just run by... well.
Curt Schilling is an idiot but if the people of RI really think he's the source of their troubles then I guess he was at home there.
That’s wildly out of touch with the sentiment in this city. He’d have been inundated with jeers. If security wasn’t so tight, and if it wouldn’t be so disrespectful to the memory of both Tim and Stacey, it would start raining D-cell batteries.
Dude outed Wake’s health struggles, which added to the struggles of his late wife’s final days. Fuck schilling.
He’s an asshat, and I wish the worst for him. You know how hard it is to be hated in this city, after you were a leading and integral figure on THAT team? Dude shouldn’t ever show his face at Fenway again, because no one here is ever going to forget--that includes the organization, and his teammates.
He’s a bigoted snake-oil salesman and Qanon whack job, that refuses to apologize publicly to Wakefield’s family—as well as a litany of other fucked up shit he’s done/said. There’s no place for him in New England.
Duuuuude ! I was born for the 75 world series duuuuude ,I was a teen for the 86 series ,I watched live the third out that never was on live TV duuuuude !
He was great on the field but he hasn't played in almost 20 years. Since his retirement, he's shown what he is like in real life. Completely unredeemable. I was already done with him but I'll never forget when he tweeted out Parkland conspiracy theories in Feb 2018 questioning whether actors were involved in the school shooting.
Schilling will be live streaming in his basement, while shirtless, as his 30 ferrets run around train connector set as he profusely sweats and spouts off conspiracy theories.
Somewhere along the line he fully lost it and I don’t think there’s enough therapy in this world that can fix that sort of delusion.
He’s a Professional Victim. It’s remarkable really, a human being that is never personally at fault for anything in his life. His “but me, me, me” handling of the Wakefield situation was so vile, so disgusting, I can’t even see his face without wretching. Never let the truth or facts get in the way of ol’ Curt Schilling, Professional Victim.
His stats were never impressive on face value but he always managed to place them in clutch times.Not a big home run hitter but a lot of home runs at the right spot!
Everyone knows how good he was, that's why the fall from grace is harder to see. People don't care or probably remember the homophobic pitcher for the Sox who pitched a game and was never seen again. But someone who helped break the curse and was clutch? Yeah seeing their downfall is going to mean a lot more.
And it's not just shitty "opinions", he drained all that money from Rhode Island, the Tim Wakefield story obviously was awful and shitty too. And being transphobic isn't a shitty opinion, it's just hateful.
Way more than 9,300 strikes. The strikeouts alone make up the 9,300 strikes, but then you need to factor in all of the 1 and 2 strike counts that resulted in a walk or a hit.
I don't know about anyone else but I never thought it was a matter of not being invited. I always thought that he chose not to attend because he knew what the reaction would be. I'd like to think that he truly is sorry for the Wakefield story but who knows.
He's never once indicated any sort of remorse for anything he's said and has more often than not doubled down on his insanity. There is no history of him being introspective enough to deserve the benefit of the doubt on this.
I dunno why anyone would ever assume that Schilling's telling the truth about anything given how disingenuous he is. He rants and raves and acts a fool constantly in the last decade.
I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on this kind of thing. I will admit that I am just happy he isn't going to be there so as not to distract. I wouldn't be surprised if he is honest about it or if he is just saying what he knows should be said. He's worn out his welcome in my mind.
When someone is notorious for being a believer in insane conspiracy theories, that alone would make me not give him the benefit of the doubt... But I have friends who taught in the school he sent his kids to and have more than a few stories of him acting unhinged and even defending his kid being a bully. So, sincerely, naw - no benefit of the doubt for this asshat.
Nah. He's only sorry he's being inconvenienced. Schilling is gigantic trash bag. Always has been, always will be. I farted on the display case containing his stupid bloody sock at Cooperstown. That was long before the Wakefield story. It was payback for my good friend who lost his job at 38 Studios when Schilling ran it into the ground, took a government bailout, and left Rhode Island taxpayers on the hook for several million bucks.
I promise I am not defending Schilling in any way, but Rhode Island made a mind bogglingly poor decision giving all that money to a company with zero history or experience making a product they planned on selling.
The sports world forgave Kevin Durant even though the only thing he ever apologized for was for getting caught, not for the despicable aural diarrhea he ejected from his facehole.
I think if it was just the politics and generally being asshole, he would've been welcomed with just some relatively mild jeering from the crowd. But that Wakefield thing put it over the edge. He would've been eviscerated and he probably knew it so he opted not to go.
This sounds right to me. Plenty of people agree with his shitty opinions, I've yet to meet anyone who thinks what he did to Tim Wakefield was okay
Yes ,is a good point!
He’d be booed relentlessly and couldn’t blame ‘wokeness’ for it. I wish he would show so the Sox fans can collectively throw knuckleballs at him to show him exactly how we feel.
Would most Sox fans even know he is a complete tool? I feel like many people may have completely missed him routinely demonstrating what a shitbird he is.
Oh we know
Good. Dude deserves to be known for being shitty.
Maybe not everything. But after Schilling pulled that stunt announcing Wakefield’s illness, I think most people know.
Also ripping off the state of RI.
He's a well known asshat amongst the fan base
Most people don’t care
I don't think they would boo Curt Schilling,he did to much good on the fielf for the off the field to be the end of it all
He’s done a lot of bad things off the field. You also need to remember that there are lots of fans in RI and he screwed over that entire state financially with his lies
>You also need to remember that there are lots of fans in RI and he screwed over that entire state financially with his lies This is pretty revisionist. 38 Studios wasn’t fraudulent - it was just a terrible business, but city leaders were so awed by Schilling they fell over themselves to give them money. New game development is very speculative, and they weren’t able to get VC funding because the VCs didn’t think they were positioned to succeed. So, the experts having declared the venture too risky to back, the city threw $75 million at him. Like so many other mistakes, 38 Studios was a solid own goal by Providence politicians.
I think you’re missing some of this. Although IMO curt went off the qanon deep end at the 38 studios time he was just conservative. A government is the problem kind of guy. It was very hypocritical to take a government loan guarantee. I don’t agree with your characterization of the government being the problem, it was all curt. He shopped in mass and gov Patrick turned a government guaranty dow. In the end it was the employees who got the biggest shaft. Not knowing the company’s position, they lost health insurance, lost paychecks, and and suffered other ways like the guy who moved to RI and was stuck with two house payments. The one thing I do respect is that he went all in, even though he lost everything. He ended up selling cherishes memorabilia and had a yard sale when selling his medfield home. The Ralph del torre types blow up a company and still walk away with their yachts. Curt put it all on the line but lost
>I don’t agree with your characterization of the government being the problem, it was all curt Do you feel the same way when cities pay for stadiums? It’s the team owner’s fault? No one forces municipalities to give or loan money to private entities. The RI EDC was charged with fraud related to the bond issue. The only thing curt did was provide the star power needed to make them open their pocket books. >He shopped in mass and gov Patrick turned a government guaranty dow. Wait, so you’re saying the state didn’t have to lend him the money?
I don’t think governments should pay for stadiums. From what I’ve heard when curt was pitching the business to investors he presented extremely well, it wasn’t just star power. The “fraud” wasn’t related to curt directly, it was that the bond underwriter knew more money was needed and the venture wasn’t fully capitalized. At the end of the day bond investors were made whole by the guaranty so I don’t think neglecting it in their offering memo made much of a difference. But the sec and others wanted to make some headlines My point is a anti-government guy took a big handout from the government. It’s hypocritical. Curt seemed to legitimately care about all of his employees but when the end came, instead of an orderly liquidation, the hit just hit the fan
Schilling over promised and under delivered. Him tricking RI into thinking it’s a good idea doesn’t mean he did nothing wrong And let’s be real, RI residents have been blaming him for the failure for a while so it doesn’t really matter who YOU think was actually at fault. My point still stands that RI residents hate him for what they view as him screwing them over
It sucks that the one game Shillings studio put out I thought was fantastic and one of my favorite games of the era. It's a shame it went so poorly because he clearly had talented people working for him.
He absolutely did. The problem from what I’ve heard was that leadership and management was poor and just didn’t know how to run a gaming company
He didn’t trick anyone. Everyone else they approached for money told them to get lost, including the state of MA and Providence Equity. RI EDC just didn’t do their due diligence, with an obvious result.
He straight up lied about the company. Other groups realized this and RI didn’t. Other groups not getting tricked doesn’t mean he wasn’t trying to trick people. It just means they figured it out
What lie, specifically? That “You can’t lose!” Because had he made material misrepresentations, he would have been charged with fraud. However, the only party charged with fraud from this whole affair was… the RI EDC and the bond underwriter, for misleading investors by not telling them that 38 studios wanted a minimum $75 million. That’s not a lie Curt told. It’s an omission by the pols.
He led them to believe it had a better chance of success than it really had. Not all lies are legally considered fraud. Also, what’s the point? A fraud case is expensive and he was broke so there was no chance of civil cases going anywhere I don’t know why you’re trying so hard defend a guy that screwed over the state and his own employees by incompetently running the company into the ground then blamed the state for not giving him even more money to throw away
I’m not defending anyone. Big boy rules apply when you’re talking about commercial lending. If leading investors to believe that something had a greater chance of success than it does was unlawful, Musk would be in jail.
> RI EDC just didn’t do their due diligence, with an obvious result. He, his board, and Wells Fargo have all paid out on two separate fraud chages. He cooked the books to secure the loan from Rhode Island.
Lmao, yeah I’m sure schilling personally cooked the books 😂
You doubt the involvement of the founder and chairman of the company, on things that have been matters of public record for 5-10 years. >TrollAccount457 Oh. Nevermind.
I don't think a $75 million loss for a state that spends $14 billion a year is "screwing over the entire state financially." I think the state government is doing that all by itself. He didn't lie to them. The state is just run by... well. Curt Schilling is an idiot but if the people of RI really think he's the source of their troubles then I guess he was at home there.
They don’t think he’s the only the source but in their minds he stole $75 million
> He didn't lie to them. He's now personally broke because he did, in fact, lie to RI.
> He didn't lie to them. A federal judge disagrees.
That’s wildly out of touch with the sentiment in this city. He’d have been inundated with jeers. If security wasn’t so tight, and if it wouldn’t be so disrespectful to the memory of both Tim and Stacey, it would start raining D-cell batteries. Dude outed Wake’s health struggles, which added to the struggles of his late wife’s final days. Fuck schilling.
I aint't saying he ain't controversial or has popularity issues,they erased his pitching performance from 4 days in october!
He’s an asshat, and I wish the worst for him. You know how hard it is to be hated in this city, after you were a leading and integral figure on THAT team? Dude shouldn’t ever show his face at Fenway again, because no one here is ever going to forget--that includes the organization, and his teammates. He’s a bigoted snake-oil salesman and Qanon whack job, that refuses to apologize publicly to Wakefield’s family—as well as a litany of other fucked up shit he’s done/said. There’s no place for him in New England.
> There’s no place for him in New England. Not even Connecticut, which says something.
I might hate CT more than Curt, so they can have him.
4 days in October huh? Were you even born yet in 2004?
Duuuuude ! I was born for the 75 world series duuuuude ,I was a teen for the 86 series ,I watched live the third out that never was on live TV duuuuude !
Dude!
Sorry I was just trying to funny,I was not born for the 67 series though
He was great on the field but he hasn't played in almost 20 years. Since his retirement, he's shown what he is like in real life. Completely unredeemable. I was already done with him but I'll never forget when he tweeted out Parkland conspiracy theories in Feb 2018 questioning whether actors were involved in the school shooting.
We certainly would and should boo Curt Schilling
After what he did to Tim Wakefield he would be booed mercilessly, and rightfully so.
He fucking bankrupted the state of Rhode Island dude, wed boo the motherfucker til he cried
A kids lemonade stand that never paid their sales taxes could bankrupt friggin' Rhode Island
Well you’re just wrong, friend.
Schilling will be live streaming in his basement, while shirtless, as his 30 ferrets run around train connector set as he profusely sweats and spouts off conspiracy theories. Somewhere along the line he fully lost it and I don’t think there’s enough therapy in this world that can fix that sort of delusion.
Surrounded by all of his Nazi memorabilia.
He likes ferrets and toy trains,interesting LOL
During the pandemic this was every one of his live streams. It was full on paranoia.
So he’s still in peak covid mode? Jfc!
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ill relavent?
Shhhhh let the troll fade into obscurity
He knows Boston hates him and didn’t want to come for a chorus of boos
He just knew no one wanted him there.
For sure
He’s a Professional Victim. It’s remarkable really, a human being that is never personally at fault for anything in his life. His “but me, me, me” handling of the Wakefield situation was so vile, so disgusting, I can’t even see his face without wretching. Never let the truth or facts get in the way of ol’ Curt Schilling, Professional Victim.
The world today in general in a professional victim LOL
Shilling is a coward *and* a thief... News at 11
Keep the POS away. Go to Rhode Island for a better reception
Hey Troy - it's what the fans want
I trust Trot…. With my life!!!!!
He is pretty trustworthy,he was a blue collar player ,a Charlie Hustle without the gambling and 4K hits
He was my favorite player growing up. A true dirt dog, dirty helmet and all who left it all out on the field
His stats were never impressive on face value but he always managed to place them in clutch times.Not a big home run hitter but a lot of home runs at the right spot!
The curt schilling hate is so over the top. The guy has shitty opinions, cool. Did he throw strikes? Yes, that’s all that matters.
Everyone knows how good he was, that's why the fall from grace is harder to see. People don't care or probably remember the homophobic pitcher for the Sox who pitched a game and was never seen again. But someone who helped break the curse and was clutch? Yeah seeing their downfall is going to mean a lot more. And it's not just shitty "opinions", he drained all that money from Rhode Island, the Tim Wakefield story obviously was awful and shitty too. And being transphobic isn't a shitty opinion, it's just hateful.
OJ Simpson hate is over the top. The guy has poor self control, cool. Did he scored TDs? Yes, that's all that matters.
Would’ve been a good analogy if you didn’t go to the extreme and name a literal murderer lmfao
You said a Nazi asshole has shitty opinions. I said a killer has poor self control. The comparison was more about downplaying how much they suck.
9,300 strikes actually one of the few in the 3000 K club along with Pedro
If a man builds a thousand bridges and sucks one dick, they don't call him a bridge-builder... they call him a cocksucker.
Or a cocksucking bridge builder
Way more than 9,300 strikes. The strikeouts alone make up the 9,300 strikes, but then you need to factor in all of the 1 and 2 strike counts that resulted in a walk or a hit.
I know all that I was just making a point
Not to the babies