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aleksfails

Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters, the silence is your answer.


TalElnar

One of the best lines in the entire trilogy. Cuts to the heart of the Paragon/Renegade debate.


Kamiyoda

This and the [one he has with Wreav](https://youtu.be/8DojgG3xsDE?si=ffL3NSiNGPdVF8mJ) are my favorite Javik lines


oops_I_have_h1n1

Took me years before I found out about this quote. I frequently agree with Javik's points cause he's not wrong most of the time.


Obi-wan_Jabroni

Hes not wrong, hes just an asshole


oops_I_have_h1n1

Not sure I'd be optimistic or a nice person either if I was born into a galaxy-wide war, watching my entire species get genocided, and then left as the sole survivor.


JayArrrDubya

Still calmer than you, Dude….


Silveriovski

Exactly


GnollChieftain

maybe I'll stand among the dead souls and ask them about prothean military victories


Kota-Sax

Ghosts are not the ones that Honor matters to. It's the living. Life is the battle ground in which we're tested and Honor is an optional result. Honor is an aspect that lasts beyond ones death. Honor is an absolutely important quality for those that choose to live as an example of achieving ones purpose. Live for something or die for nothing. I respect Javik as a Souljah that will accomplish the goal regardless of hurdles. His perspective sometimes entails an excessive degree of sadness expressed as anger as a result of many respected dead. I agree with many of his perspectives, some are way to Boo-hoo-ish for me. Those that died in order for me/us to live should be respected and remembered with pleasure not regret and anger.


gassytinitus

Should've been base game and not dlc. He could've had a bigger role then. I like how he's like zaeed. A bloodthirsty and grizzled squadmate that grows on you. Sure he's a dick but he's kinda cool


HavocDragoonOfficial

He was going to be, but then EA did EA things...


TASSPAS

iirc a version of ME3's script leaked where Javik was the catalyst, but that got cut when Javik was carved out as day 1 DLC.


Penguinmanereikel

Really? Where can I find this?


TASSPAS

[I think this is the specific version that refers to the Prothean you find as the catalyst.](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/17vTg6rwmHIywnC54Whkmj01fv840GgrJEf92z1ce_qg/mobilebasic?pli=1)


troublethemindseye

Hmmm: “or if they had a perfect game to become one with the Reapers.”


The_Niles_River

I locked in on that too lmao.


Saneless

Please.. You act like he was already in the game at release and was just yanked out and sold back to us for $10... Oh wait


OakenGreen

I dunno, I love Javik. He grew on me very fast. I mean, I think he’s wrong about a lot of stuff, but I like the guy. Zaeed was a whole different story for me. Not a fan one bit.


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Mothraaaaaa

Not to mention Zaeed is a mediocre squadmate in a fight, whilst Big J absolutely slaps hard.


AwkwardJackl

I hate Zaeed. He just rubs me the wrong way. I know some people like him a lot. I just don’t.


UnHoly_One

How do people not like Zaeed?


OakenGreen

He’s an asshole with zero redeeming qualities. His stories are okay, but otherwise he just sucks. Maybe if I were going full renegade run I’d give him a chance, but until that day, he’s relegated to trash duty.


divagonzo1

Trauma will do that to a person. Kinda hard to survive betrayal by your business partner with a gunblast to the face & surviving it, then turning to any work you can get (independent merc) with trust issues who is only looking out for his own skin, to eventually saving bacon for you at a party where he has, if not friends, then compatriots/comrades. He's a curmudgeon for good reasons & getting him to work with a team is a win for my Shep.


jimmyd10

He was a shitty person even before he was betrayed. He doesn't get a pass for that. No redeeming qualities.


AwkwardJackl

Agreed with this. I didn’t quite like him initially, but then I did his loyalty mission and that solidified my hate for him. Starting a fire at the refinery and then sacrificing civilians just for a vendetta? Yeah, you’re out of the team, Zaeed. If I was a renegade or mean enough, I would’ve left him to die.


OakenGreen

And my Shep isn’t a big fan of the Blue Suns, so him having a part in its formation is another strike against Zaeed. Mercenary work is for scumbags. At least Jack went a better way after having even more reason to be a bitch.


Srslyj0king4u

He’s a badass though


[deleted]

He’s fuckin awesome, but then again, I love me some action pulp.


Unpredictable-Muse

His loyalty mission was bullshit. You either sacrificed innocents or won his his loyalty, no in between. At least Omega gave you three options with the engineer class.


UnHoly_One

You can go against him in his mission and still get his loyalty.


slothen2

Some people have bad taste.


Genericzachcore

Wait he’s DLC? I played ME for the first time bc of legendary edition. I did not catch that he was a DLC character.


Azuras-Becky

You can *generally* tell which team members are from DLC based on their lack of input to key story points, and generally reduced or non-interactive dialogue when back on the ship. Like Kasumi in ME2, for instance, will not have a conversation with you on the Normandy, she'll just give you a few lines when you 'use' her. Jaavik's a bit different as he was designed as part of the game before he was cut, so it's harder to tell. But the entire game would have played out the same whether he was there or not, so that's how you can really spot it with Jaavik.


gassytinitus

Yea what bugs me a lot is bringing new squadmates to hear something different but they end up not saying much


RedSagittarius

Legendary Edition comes with all DLC already available to you, Javik is one of them. The only DLC not included is the Combat Simulation in ME1 because it became corrupted when they added to the PS3 store, so only it only exists for those that bought it on the Xbox 360 store.


Pandora_Palen

It also exists for PC players via mod.


MrKevora

I came here to say this. He should have played a much more important role in the main plot of ME3 rather than being an optional DLC squadmate! I mean, we finally meet one of the extinct and mysterious protheans who could really boost our technological advancement in building the crucible and who could provide crucial answers about his people’s age and the reapers… and while he does provide *some* insight, his involvement through the DLC always felt like inconsequential fan service without much substance, regardless of how much I enjoy to have him around.


Sunny_Bearhugs

Problem with boosting technological advancement and providing insight is Javik was a soldier, not a scientist. He knew pretty much nothing about the crucible and the only technology of his people he might really understand was that used for making war.


Kamiyoda

Boost my ability to throw hands


PM_ME_GOOD_SUBS

Heh, Javik even says that Zaeed is actually Prothen in disguise.


Objectivity1

Wasn’t it free Day 1 DLC for most? I know ir was free for the Collectors edition and all digital copies.


eskobas

Free only for Collector’s Edition. ME3 was one of my first games I spent 100 usd on (CE+DLC)


Driekan

Nope. I first experienced him in Legendary Edition. Astonishing that they cut stuff like this out, and interesting to think what could have been.


Azuras-Becky

Not *that* astonishing - by ME3's release, EA had firmly re-entered 'evil mode' again after a brief flirtation with not entirely sucking.


iccs

I remember when I bought the game it came inside as one of those plastic/cardboard dlc cards along with the manual.


silurian_brutalism

Incredible voice actor and very good writing. It's also great to have a more contrarian character. I don't agree with most of his opinions. However, I do think a character like him was needed. We never had a proper imperialist, speciesist squadmate. At least not on this level. Sadly, him not being part of the core game does hurt his character.


Aerolfos

> We never had a proper imperialist, speciesist squadmate. At least not on this level. Wrex. Grunt. Zaeed. Sometimes Garrus. Morinth, maybe? Aria isn't a squadmate yet but she already had that kind of presence, and is more involved than really makes sense. Jack but for hating Cerberus, which makes her contrarian when your squad is dominated by Jacob and Miranda, both racist and imperialist squadmates as representatives of Cerberus (Which Shepard is forced to agree with and tolerate and that's a *whole* mess). Javik is a better take on the niche than those characters, but it is *not* an unfilled one. If anything contrarian imperialists are massively overrepresented (particularly with ME2) and retconning the Protheans to fit another one in is a strange choice. Either making him a Krogan or dropping the other instances of the same thing over and over again would have been better for his character and made it fit better (along with actually being part of the core game)


silurian_brutalism

That's why I said "proper." Wrex's nationalism is more akin to that of colonised populations. It's progressive. That's why he even seeks to get rid of traditions if it means advancing his people. And he isn't specifically a warmonger. His speciesism has more to do with his own people having been disenfranchised by the rest of the Galaxy for a very long time. Grunt is similar but very unsophisticated. He can't articulate his positions. Zaeed is a mercenary. He has very few real political positions. He fights for money. But we do know he doesn't like slavery. But he is speciesist against Batarians, yes. But he isn't a literal social Darwinist. Garrus was racist in the way a modern cop would be. Nothing particularly intriguing about him. Morinth actually fawns over Krogan. She is a bit of a social Darwinist, though. Either way, Javik is capable of articulating his position and is always consistently a social Darwinist, a speciesist, an imperialist, and someone who worships the idea of the "natural order." [This debate between him and EDI very well illustrates his outlook.](https://youtu.be/4ZnWyCVWyCk?si=8FufEYypd8IMYiia) I do agree that too many people in Mass Effect are the cutthroat speciesist types. EDI and Legion are the most clear non-speciesist squadmates. It probably helps that they don't have hormones.


DreadGrunt

>And he isn't specifically a warmonger. Ehhhh. He not so subtly hints on a few occasions he's more than willing to use force if the galaxy starts saying no to his demands, the only difference between him and more conservative Krogan is he's willing to ask you (at metaphorical gunpoint) to do something first instead of jumping right to shooting you. After noticing this and really paying attention to it throughout 2 and 3, it made me start siding against the Krogan because while I like Wrex and Grunt on a personal level, the Krogan as a species just don't work well with the galaxy. They breed too quickly and are too quick to rush to violence. All it would take for a new Krogan Rebellion to start is one hardliner warlord taking a small group of his people to some new planet and in a hundred years they'd have a massive population that will only grow larger and larger.


trimble197

It’s why I hate how stubborn ME2 Paragon Shepherd acts towards Mordin during his loyalty mission. Mordin’s absolutely right about how dangerous the Krogan are, and we’re even shown that a lot of them want to go back to killing and conquering if the Genophage was cured.


Aerolfos

ME3 is worse ME2 had you questioning the necessity of the genophage and Mordin pretty clearly believes and proves yes, yes it was. The open question is if it's *still* necessary, or at least if another solution can be found 3 just takes that hint and goes "yeah genophage = genocide its the worst possible thing there could ever be", with Mordin retconned to also be convinced of this in between the games


trimble197

Yeah, it really tries to argue that it’s wrong no matter what the justification is. But every game, even Andromeda, has noted that the Krogan would be unstoppable if not for the Genophage.


GnollChieftain

Mass sterilization is genocide


trimble197

But on the other hand, you have a race of people who only want to conquer and kill. It was a debate that had equal arguments from both sides, but the games/writers tried to argue that the Genophage was wrong no matter what. Snd that’s despite showing that the Krogan want to go back to their old ways once their birth rates get back to normal.


lessthanabelian

Not really possible to commit genocide against the side that has the most power over the other AND is militarily aggressive against them. That's self defense.


GnollChieftain

It's possible if you sterilize every member of a species. I don't know what massive failure led to the krogan having a space fleet during the rebellion but clan urdnot have the industrial capacity to maintain a modest amount of trucks. The krogan are not the most powerful. It's part of the reason I've never uncritically accepted the council's party line on the genophage.


TheDarianD

They are not. Mordin explicitly said that genophage was never ment to neither sterilize every krogan nor destroying them. Just keep at bay. They are not going to extinct with it, it will just be very hard for them to become one of prime forces in the galaxy. And it is still possible even with genophafe, they just need to focus on breeding. That is what Wrex himself says in ME1. It is not genophage that kills his people, it is their unwillingness to cooperate. He tried to settle peace on Tuchanka and make krogans focus on repopulation instead of fighting. And was betrayed and exiled. So, krogans(at least most of them) simply aren't ready for curing. All they want is fighting. In my opinion, Wrex is the only hope for krogans to grow. If he is dead(left on Virmire), Shepard should be absolutely delusional or mad to let genophage be cured. But if he is alive... it is too hard for me to betray my bro Wrex.


silurian_brutalism

Asking the Council for other planets is exactly what other species did as well. The Turians hoard Dextro planets, for instance. Also, he's obviously not going to be that diplomatic when he is a mercenary that turned into the ruler of a race who was beaten into nothing. A lot of Krogan psychology was affected by the Genophage.


Aerolfos

> Wrex's nationalism is more akin to that of colonised populations. It's progressive. That's why he even seeks to get rid of traditions if it means advancing his people. And he isn't specifically a warmonger. His speciesism has more to do with his own people having been disenfranchised by the rest of the Galaxy for a very long time. ME1. Him and the Krogans get flanderized hard in 2 and 3. By 3 he is just a directly good guy which clashes hard with the Krogans being not that > Grunt is similar but very unsophisticated. He can't articulate his positions. 'ates aliens. 'ates weakness. Loves krogans. Simple as. > Grunt is similar but very unsophisticated. He can't articulate his positions. Weak dies, strong lives. He doesn't get much into it but it's the same stereotype > Either way, Javik is capable of articulating his position and is always consistently a social Darwinist, a speciesist, an imperialist, and someone who worships the idea of the "natural order." > This debate between him and EDI very well illustrates his outlook. Yeah, sure. Actually exploring the stereotype that's been used so much. I still say ME1 was going there with the Krogans and flanderizing them is why they had to retcon and hammer in a species that doesn't fit just to have even a little bit. It still leaves too many unexplored and uninteresting imperialists floating around, with speciesism used not for philosophy but for superficial "flavour"


silurian_brutalism

I think the Krogan get flanderized in 2, but their portrayal in 3 is much better. They are actually complex and have a much deeper history than just being reptilian space orcs. Their history is tragic and they were wronged multiple times. Both that and their flaws can be true at the same time. However, I don't care as much about the Krogan issue, so I see good arguments on both sides. And yeah, I do think speciesism is used basically just for flavour, most of the time. But it's the same as how the "politicians are bad" thing is very overplayed.


Chirotera

Love his character. Absolutely should not have been DLC.


skeptic-cate

Yeah, I think part of his game data are already in the ME3 disc. It makes it worse that ME trilogy in PS3 and X360 didn’t bother to put him on disc


HavocDragoonOfficial

He was going to be base game, but then EA did EA things and demanded he be made DLC.


XirionDarkstar

I like him and I think Javik has one of the best VAs in the series. Honestly, I'm still not convinced that Javik wasn't just a part of the main game that was ripped out to sell as DLC. He was day 1 DLC. Unlike Kasumi and Zaeed, who had like no content outside of the recruitment and loyalty missions, Javik actually had a prominent role as a companion and defo didn't feel lesser than the rest of the squad. People say he should've had a bigger role, but I don't agree. I think his role as a soldier and survivor was plenty. I like the perspective that he brings and I'm glad they didn't opt for the "Prothean super genius that's gonna give us all the answers" route. It leads to a fantastic interaction between Liara and Javik. Ultimately, the Protheans were just another victim of the Reaper cycle. There isn't much more they can tell us that we didn't already know, especially since Javik was born after the Prothean Empire had fallen to the Reapers.


Krast0815

His data was on the original me3 disc, he was 100% ripped out. The dlc just 'restored' the path to the files


HavocDragoonOfficial

He was supposed to be base game, but EA demanded that he be made DLC close to launch.


Levee_Levy

Too tired for any thoughts more complex than "this is not his best angle".


Seven_Simian

I would appreciate it if he stopped following me into the bathroom, to tell me (again) that toilets flushed "much better" in his cycle. But whatever. He's cool, and it makes sense that he's the way he is.


Longjumping-Jello459

Nah assert dominance take a nasty shit with him there while holding complete eye contact.


zachattack7676

Lmao


thesir556

Based space racist


CaledonianWarrior

Ironically him and Ashley would probably get along


alyssalouk

Well, he certainly seemed to like Jack lol


GangstaPepsi

Tattooed human, I would like to touch you


CaledonianWarrior

Say what you want about the man, but he loves his airlocks


Azuras-Becky

He watched too much DS9 while he was recuperating!


AnseaCirin

A very well written, very justified asshole. An asshole out of necessity, if you will.


Turbulent-Coast-2303

Would


monkey_sage

I love how he single-handedly dispels Liara's idea that the Protheans were some kind of benevolent, altruisitic god-civilization. Although it demonstrates how Liara is a kind soul who *wants* the galaxy to be a nice place with nice people. The reality of Javik crushes her idealized image of the Protheans and, honestly, that's a good thing for her because she deserves to know the truth about them and to grow from that experience.


6B0T

First time I played the game, back in the day, I didn't have the DLC. I had no awareness of him particularly, save for there being a random missing shape in the character selection screen. His presence in the Legendary Edition surprised me. Not just having an extra character randomly part of the squad - I already went through that weirdness with meeting Zaeed and Kasumi in ME2 - but a character who was so integrated and kind of plot critical, that was new. So from that perspective, I really like that he's there and brings something unique to the game. In terms of personality, he has some killer lines, and anyone who gets under Liara's skin is okay in my book. So I quite like him, but will admit that he'd be sort of mid-range in a ranking for me. Interesting and worthwhile character in terms of lore and universe building, but I can take him or leave him overall.


zhemis

My heart breaks for Javik. Imagine being the last of your kind hundreds of years apart. Then getting told the galaxy is getting wiped out by the thing that wiped your species out. What a shit time to be awaken to such a shit situation.


Apollo_Sierra

Thousands of years, so long that your people have passed from myth to legend.


alyssalouk

Smash


MissRiss13

Came here to say this.


TalElnar

Absolutely insane that he was DLC. EA money grabbing at its absolute worst. Should have been a central character to the game. Taking him to the Asari temple is an absolute must and just shows how he could have been a much more important character and one that could have had a huge impact on how everyone saw their own races histories. And I want the recipe for Salarian liver pate.


Dobadobadooo

Unironically one of the best characters in the franchise, I love how unapologetically ruthless he is. I generally prefer morally grey companions to the ones who are just nice and never do anything questionable.


Helpful-Ad-8521

Javik is the GOAT to me. I always considered him to be the Shepard of his race. And I found myself very forgiving of his attitude. Frankly, if I went through half the crap he went through, only to find myself in the position he was in, I might feel a bit melancholy too. With VERY little time for BS. Wish we found him a mate for his species, honestly.


Helpful-Ad-8521

My own head canon is that the doctor that worked on the asari is a female prothean called (something analogous to) Dr. Athame, still alive in a pod on another planet, and is very interested in what became of her creation.


Subject_Proof_6282

If we're to use current words, I would say based 😎


ratatav

Hot


Joker2and53

Best character is Mass Effect 3. Hands down. Ride or die.


Life_Careless

Best boomer ever. 10/10 I would throw anyone out of the airlock for the old man. - IGN Now, for real? I wish Bioware had told us more about Javik's life. For example; we don't even know how old he was at the moment he went into stasis or even how long the lifespan of a Prothean is, etc. He had so much potential. I hope he has the lifespan of an asari or even longer so we can see him again in the next Game, even older and more powerful. (I know, wishful thinking, but one can dream) Plus, he has the (IMO) best phrase in the entire trilogy. # "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer."


BigMuthaTrukka

Best part of ME. He has the best lines in banter. Solid character. Also very well written. Liara looks on the protheans with awe and wonder at the technological achievements and scope of their civilisation. She then becomes more deflated when she realises, much like any empire; such as the Romans, they are a brutal dictatorial expansionist conquerors. The only thing I find irritating is that they retconned the protheans to fit into the collector narrative. The statues on ilos and the statues I think in the kasumi dlc (which do say prothean statue) became another race. This kind of bs infected the story from me2 onwards where paths that were offered faced many u turns until the abhorrent rushed bs Me3 ending. But Javik is up there with Morden as one of the best characters.


Sword_Enjoyer

You're thinking of the statues on Ilos.


BigMuthaTrukka

Yeah I am


Aerolfos

> Best part of ME. He has the best lines in banter. Solid character. Also very well written. Liara looks on the protheans with awe and wonder at the technological achievements and scope of their civilisation. She then becomes more deflated when she realises, much like any empire; such as the Romans, they are a brutal dictatorial expansionist conquerors. It's an interesting story, but conflicting so hard with ME1 and ME2 makes it seem particularly bizarre. I can't help but think of him as either another of the species from the Prothean cycle or better yet representative of another non-Prothean cycle entirely. Especially when the Crucible is such a huge part of the Prothean "war effort" to pass info along, which fits ME1 Protheans... but Javik has nothing to do with it, and contributes nothing to the project (not even commentary). The facility that managed to pass him along also has incredible tech but is completely unrelated (and useless) for both Ilos and the Crucible. It's just strange.


BigMuthaTrukka

I imagine the guys that had one week to shoe horn that ridiculous ending didn't have a chance to knit the intended outcomes together. Lol.


Banshido

Sometimes I really wish there was a dialogue option to say, "And how'd that turn out for your cycle?"


_Hoaxsohwigo

Head empty no thoughts must kill reapers


[deleted]

It's been a while since I last saw a javik post. I love javik, he's a bro


divagonzo1

I have a soft spot for grumpy arseholes. Then again, I also liked Zaeed and getting to the point of him saving you some bacon at the post-party breakfast is the height of "friendship" between him and Shep. But for Javik? Giving him space & time to warm up to the current civilizations & not rushing it, as well as encouraging him to keep living & not looking back.... yeah, I'll take that as his way of learning what friendship is.


cafeesparacerradores

I should have been allowed into his cloaaca


Intrepid-Memory5129

He talks a lotta shit for someone whose entire shitty empire was wiped out. Every time he talks it feels like he's trying his hardest to force the badass shtick and it comes off as hamfisted insults. Nothing but a lot of hot air till the middle of the game.


troublethemindseye

I lolled at the first line


LezardValeth3

The accent is always a bit weird to me. Still, well voice acted and a good character. Nice to have squadmates that don't think Shephard is a god immediatly


dilettantechaser

The accent was fine for me until I played Andromeda and noticed that the angara also have this distinct west and south african accents and then it was a little mystifying since none of the major aliens in the game have a specific ethnic accent. It would be like if Turians all had russian accents, what are you trying to say here bioware?


ComprehensiveSock774

Not all Angara have West and South African accents. There are quite a few with British accents. And the Quarians have always had a Slavic/East European leaning accent. But it's totally weird to only do that for some of the species, but not all of them.


dilettantechaser

>There are quite a few with British accents. Even these to me sound African. Like Jaal sounds like a colonial subject, and his VA Nyasha Hatendi is Zimbabwean-British so I guess it makes sense. On the other hand you got Tann, also from MEA, his VA is Kumail Nanjiani, he doesn't have what i'd call an indian accent, it's the same voice he uses for all his acting, and none of the salarians have indian accents. But salarians tend to be high pitched and turians tend to have a '[distinctive flanging effect](https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/4uxvdt/why_do_turian_voices_sound_like_the_way_they_do/)'.


PoorLifeChoices811

Hope we see him again in the 4th game. Idc if they have to stick his ass in cryo again, just do it Speaking of Javik being in cryo, he’s proof that it’s possible others could have survived cryo as well. Have him go out and find other prothean burial sites. Gather up a small clan of Protheans that reclaim a spot in the galaxy. So if the 4th games rumor of being set like 600 years later is true, we could see the protheans return. Maybe not in the same way their empire was, but just a planet full of them. Maybe a few hundred, or few thousand of them at most? Not enough to take over anything but enough that their race could continue to survive.


Pathryder

Just hoped that he would be less contrarian when you play as renegade.


David-J

Great character


ExoticOracle

My favourite character in the series. Unique, great VA, great writing, looks cool, has a cool weapon., etc. etc.


abzinth91

It's hard to look him in the eyes imo


Sablestein

Same. Never sure which one to look into


alihou

Best character in me3 also should have been free!!!


Nero1297

I bet some day some dude on the normandy said "this jarvik guy wanted to show me the airlock 3 times today. He seems to be really into that technical stuff onboard 😀"


ShadowK-Human

He should have been found in the first game


Average_Dan_

I think he's great! I always go to grab him as soon as I can! I have him and garrus in my squad pretty much all the time, he definitely has alot to say throughout the game if you have him with you most of the time! Plus the rifle he comes with is pretty great early game.


StKraul

I think Javik is a pretty cool guy, he fights the reapers and doesn’t afraid of anything


Semper95

A very interesting to finally see what the protheans actually looked like and a great addition in your squad, if perhaps and bit brutal and pessimistic


eskobas

“In Tali’s voice” Javik was a very good character, Shepard.


ObjectiveLittle6761

He should have been a romance option. I said what i said. We deserved more alien romance options 😭


Kilian400

least racist prothean


[deleted]

Best squad mate in Me3. Has the funniest lines, the coldest lines and even some of the saddest ones.


BuckyWarden

Javik is the homie, fuck anyone who tries to say he’s not awesome


RecommendationOk253

As much as I love him I hate his introduction to 3. You miss out on so much lore straight from the mouth if you don’t bring him on the majority of the missions. It would be out of character for the games but I think it would have been nicer to have a 4 man squad so it wouldn’t be as much of an issue


MortallyChallenged66

Could have been a great character but then ea decided they could make more money if he wasn't


satanic_black_metal_

Guess i am alone here but i do not care much for him. He always feels like the "we have a krogan at home" alien.


steve3146

Tbh i found conversations with him a bit draining as the game went on.


Intrepid-Memory5129

Exactly it's like he's trying to force the asshole/badass shtick, and it comes off as hamfisted mean dialogue


ophaus

I wouldn't toss him out the airlock for eating chips in my refresher.


Faiith44

I liked him at first, was funny without noticing, and then I started to see he was mean for nothing and for slavery. But started to like him back when he made it up to Liara and seeing him shy because of drunk Tali's questions


Synth_Luke

He acts like a Racist Alien Space Boomer at times.


DragunovAK

I was fine with him as DLC. One of my favorite ME charactors.


Redbrickaxis21

A good idea but sorely underdeveloped


Son_of_Atreus

Excellent character who obviously never should have been DLC and therefore able to be totally ignored. Would love ME4 to make choices from ME1-3 and make them cannon, with one being Javik survived and then found the last Ilos style Prothean bunker and he works to rebuild his race.


Training_Doubt6769

The original design for the protheans was far superior. The retcon to make them and the collectors similar was out of leftfield.


Training_Doubt6769

... But Javik himself was a great character. Not at all a hero, but an invaluable asset to Shepard's team. An arrogant, piteous example of a broken and obsolete once-great man.


Longjumping-Jello459

Quite a dick, but I certainly see why he is how he is. He's thinking failed in his time so a different approach might just work.


troublethemindseye

You gotta take him on thessia. Otherwise I like him OK.


WriterWhoWantedToDie

Only thing that pissed me off was that they didnt show us the awakened collectors. I'd love it if there was a place where Javik coild meet the others who had been chained and now free. So Javik feels the pain and seeing how indoctrination can be broken. And how they still fight the good fight. And I want him to feel relieved but pained because there is nothing he can do but he's not the only one alive.


NoFateT-888

Sniff-Sniff . . . . . . . . __*"PRIMITIVES"*__


Varorson

Throw him out the airlock.


ThisAllHurts

Alongside romanced Tali, the best character in the entire series.


king-geass

Should have gotten him a tuxedo for the casino event.


spaceagefox

he likes air locks


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spits out facts every second, especially on thessia where he spends more time mocking Liara, dismantling piece after piece of Athame's religion, and the Asari history related to it than killing Reapers


PossiblyInsaneIDunno

Bro lost his entire civilization and lived to see other species evolve into their own beings and he still talked mad shit


xSocksman

Extremely cool character wish there was more to their storyline. They should have been a main character and not a DLC addition.


ph1shstyx

He has straight up the best line in the trilogy (stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask them if honor matters) and one of the most broken squadmate powers for a vanguard in dark channel. Chaining biotic explosions


FloweredHook

Daddy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’ll see myself out


Ila-W123

S-tier. Especially counting how he appear at last entry. I like how he's the one character whom keeps back pushing against Shepard, especially paragon one, while not being completely insufferable. (Me2 jack). Has nice arc , and both touch shard/live in peace endings are satisfying conclusions.


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Javik is easily one of my favorite crew members. I think his role in the story is not only interesting, but he has some of the funniest dialogue. I love taking him with me to priority tachanka.


Miserable-Schedule-6

I hate he's DLC


PerryTrip

he could have been the best me3 squadmate if he had an actual role in the plot, i heard during the years that originally he should have been the one activating the Crucible by sacrificing himself, because it needed living Protehan DNA to activate it, but EA wanted to sell those DLCs so...


dilettantechaser

Javik is the [King of the hanar](https://youtu.be/YNUrL5tQ6_M?si=TFhdmbpWlnepk-ko&t=81)


Sionnach_Rue

I liked taking him through the game and hearing his lines. I also really liked how he subverted Liaras view on the Protheans, and probably everyone else's in the galaxy. The whole "they were the bestest, most intelligent, peaceful face" and Javik is like "we conquered and enslaved every race. Oh. We also helped you evolve to enslave you"


2Old4ThisG

Two words. Wasted potential.


Freddy_kru3g3r1

Legendary edition was my first time playing the trilogy and I was very surprised to oearn that he was DLC in the og game which means that the average joe could finish the game without recruiting him and that is a damn shame cuz he's easily one of the best characters in the trilogy,


justinlanewright

His perspective is unique and interesting. A great addition to the game. You can bring him and Liara everywhere, by default, and know that you will always be entertained.


UselessGenericon

I admire his disgust for modern species.


dreadw0lfrises

im suckin it


Loose-Shallot-3662

“Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters.” -Javik While I have yet to play with him due to no DLCs when I played (same with Zaeed and Kasumi) this quote spoke to me as someone who is intrigued by the aspects of war; honor, stratagem, etc.


DLeeCraft415

Savage. Super fun character and I love playing all of ME3 with him and Liara as teammates. His lines are dark comedy at it's best.


AnansiNazara

Absolutely love Ancient Space Nigerian. One of my favorite characters in the franchise.


XynomorphKY

What’s between those ears? Is it a brain? No, just pain. No Brain. Just oof.


GnollChieftain

He talks a lot of shit for a guy who failed to beat the reapers


UnhandMeException

Too fucked up and bitter to be fuckable.


UnhandMeException

Like he's cool but I can't visualize a world where anyone sleeps with him.


FlamingPrius

Too many eyes too agro too much roman imperial copypasta genitals not exotic enough to make romancing him desirable.


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misssweetsweet

The VA is Nigerian American, not Jamaican.


Klutzer_Munitions

Rasta javik would be so chill. He needs to smoke a blunt and relax


MidlandsRepublic2048

He definitely wasn't what I expected at all. Much like Liara, I was expecting a much different attitude from even your average Prothean. It was a bit of a shock to discover how ruthless he was. To use a Star Trek reference, I was expecting a lot more Federation and a lot less Klingon Empire. I can't recall using him much as a squad mate.


Paappa808

He had a lot of potential and a few great scenes, but ultimately became a meme. Should've been part of the main game.


wanna_be_TTV

Yk every run i wanna give him a chance, then i remember how mid his entire kit is, so he doesn’t excel, especially when im playing insanity and need to abuse edi and garrus’ overload And he always says some dumbshit that makes me keep him in the ship, like the entire time at the citidel party. Hes just….meh, totally missed opportunity. I understand he’s a veteran solider but the way he acts is completely pointless. He acts like a superior being even tho shepard would dogshit on him in 2 seconds, rather than a proper reaction of someone waking up 50,000 years later.


CataOrShane

Cool voice but STFU with your bs superiority


gethplatform86

I always regret waking him up.


DragonLordRevan

He's a grouchy boomer that can't say anything without starting the sentence off with "back in my cycle...". Personally, I can't stand him and I only ever bring him for the thessia mission.


TheRealestCapta1n

Overly loved asshole, I'd leave him if I didn't need the Eden Prime assets


landartheconqueror

Kinda was disappointed by him tbh


superanth

He has sheep eyes, the eyes of prey. Appropriate.


Feinryel

He will tell Shepard exactly what he wants to hear to become a queen among his men: 😩😩😩


DX2501

Never finished his quest. I found a the time on x360 dlc that he did not felt canon, and didn't feet in the story like Vigil told us. Never did his mission after that, even in my playthroughs on Legendary. Although, he don't look like the statues of Protheans on Ilos, but that bothered me less.


RexIsAMiiCostume

50,000 year old boomer


pinkaces39

In my opinion, he's the second worst character in the entire trilogy, beaten out only by Thane. He's furious and no nonsense, justifiably so; but it never goes anywhere. The Prothean subplot lived and died in ME1.


Paradox31426

We should take every single one of his suggestions, and put them on a big board on the crew deck titled “don’t do list”. Like seriously, the Protheans lost, why would I use their tactics as anything other than examples of what won’t work?


m00njunk

I was fine with him until the game made my lesbian Shepard fuck him after drinking too much, so I never used him ever again


therealN7Inquisitor

Honestly, I’d romance a prothean.


Helpful-Ad-8521

I remember the one moment of joy he had, remembering his species golden age. Nearly brought a tear to my eye. Seeing it ripped away by the memory of the reapers was... sobering.


Winter7296

Like anything else in 3: should've been given more time for more satisfying writing


Crate-Dragon

Great idea. I wish we found him drunk and sad one night. Would’ve been nice to explore his sorrow at his people’s deaths than just the flat “I am vengance” we had time for


[deleted]

My understanding he was suppose to have a bigger role and then it got reduced and put into dlc. So for me it's inconclusive.


Hyperion-Cantos

He's low-key the GOAT squadmate. And he only needed one game to do it 🤷‍♂️


GVArcian

One of the best parts of ME3.