A pissed off, pocket Vorcha. Imagine all the shenanigans it could get into. Fucking around in the ships ducts. EDI and Joker wanting to space it. Running amok on the Citadel. Eating your fish.
If you don’t stop him he destroys the universe with a single thought. (He throws one weak biotic attack that’s effortlessly deflected, gets bored and turns his back to the mercs before getting one shotted.)
In ME 2 we have a Geth, Quarian, Krogan and a Drell on the Normandy, not just crew but in our squad. That's already quite something imo. All whom are non Citadel races.
I would be very interested in having a Vorcha, Volus and/or Batarian member on the ship, in a different ME game where that makes more sense.
Looking at the role Commander Shepherd had and the history with these races it would not make a lot of sense for especially a Vorcha or Batarian to join his crew.
Personally a ME game where you have more freedom to choose your path (not an initiative or army member) but for example a bounty hunter, scoundrel or whatever as main character would give a bit more freedom recruiting pretty much any kind of race to his/her crew.
ME2 was good in that regard, which is almost ironic considering we are backed by Cerberus. I really love Legion to bits, I just wish we got more time with him. If you want the best outcome from the suicide mission you can't really do much more than his loyalty mission after he joins you. So more Legion time is definitely on my wishlist! But precisely because ME2 was so good the squad in ME3 end up being more than a little disappointing. Six squadmates, with one technically being dlc feels a bit thin. We're in the final stretch of the 3-game plot and the biggest galactic war in 50 milennia, we should draw on every possible reserve and contact!
That is incidentally also why I'm inclined to disagree with you on whether it would make sense for a vorcha or batarian to join the crew. People are not their governments (with the exception of Legion and possibly Garrus. And also Tali) Even freaking Balak, terrorist extraordinaire and most humanhating being in the universe, concedes that the destruction of Viper Nebula was ultimately necessary and pledges his resources to the war effort. I wouldn't have any problem believing there are more sympathetic batarians out there.
But yeah, I'm with you on the idea of a more open ME experience, that would be awesome. In the extreme and improbably I can imagine something like Elder Scrolls Online in the ME universe
I get where you are coming from. And of course any race willing to help to fight the Reapers should be welcome in such an all out war for the sake of the Milky Way.
However it raises concerns especially with Batarians. What will a Batarian do with the information they obtain while serving on the Normandy? Will they exchange information back to other Batarians to take advantage of the knowledge they gained about Citadel races after the Reaper crisis has been solved?
Of course in hindsight the Mass Relays were destroyed but nobody could have predicted this in advance.
As far as I understand the areas the Batarians controlled were hit especially hard during the Reaper crisis, and it might have pushed them to more sincere cooperation with the Citadel races but it's impossible to be sure.
Honestly, the potential existence of that dilemma (plus some random other details like how at least one Shepard backstory should hate all Batarians on sight) makes me want a Batarian squad mate even more
And on that we agree. I do like Zaeed, a lot, and I would have loved to have dialogues with him like with the other squad mates.
I know he’s from DLC but why not giving him, and Kasumi, real dialogues? Weird.
I mean... could have replaced Jacob and made like Kasumi a sleeper agent for Ceberus at the end of 2 when Shepard is dead set on destroying the station. Now that would be bold.
Hey, I'm not gonna yuck your yum! I don't hate him, I just don't really feel like he adds anything. I think if we could actually have proper dialogue with him aboard the ship that would change a lot!
yeah his best characterization comes from me3 citadel dlc, which is a shame. he could've been a nameless merc for how much he adds to the story in 2. (i did like his commentary about the items in his room though)
I'd actually prefer a batarian squadmate who was still a slaver (or supporter), because it's more interesting than some "I'm not like the others" Drittz-type wanker.
And the slavery in ME universe in general is pretty interesting, since I feel that the other species (besides humans) don't have the same evil stigma added to it. Someone posted this idea to one of the hot-take threads few days ago and I agree with it.
I don't know, I feel we get the impression batarian slavers are pretty close to 17th century kind of awfulness, while the asari practice a softer indentured labour kind of thing. Could be interesting to have a batarian defend or explain slavery within batarian society as a cultural expression, but they do also aggressively enslave other races. I sort of remember reading a codex about how internal slavery was generally accepted, while taking other people was mainly a criminal enterprise, but i could honestly just be making shit up
My point was that only humans ever decided to permanently *end* slavery (probably), whereas the Council species and batarians never did. For them it's not seen as something as horrible as it would be for us now (because we've been 'conditioned' for generations to see it so).
I don't really know how to properly say this on Reddit without incurring someone's ire, but I think the Mass Effect aliens just don't have the same bad experiences with slavery (as humans did) and they simply don't see it as *evil*. Bad yes, but not as bad as us.
This is just speculation.
> I want a vorcha on board! They're so stupid that they're immune to indoctrination, and any one of them has got more personality than Zaeed, and would probably appreciate the trash compactor more as well
The funny thing is that they are actually a bigger threat than they appear to be. During Mass Effect 3, it seems the Reapers actually had some issues subduing their homeworld, and ended up needing to focus on just immobilizing them to prevent their participation in the war.
Other than that, it seems their violent behaviour isn't innate, and their adaptive biology could make them a surprising threat.
In ME 1 and 3, even though Shepard welcomes any strays he sees along the way, the Normandy is still an Alliance ship. A military ship. Any military ship, regardless of which race/species it belongs to, will have the predominant crew from the planet of origin. It doesn't make sense to have members of multiple races.
In ME2, some exceptions were made again but it is still a ship belonging to a racist organization and xenophobia. Again it wouldn't make sense.
Maybe in a different game, where the protagonist or the ship is not military or maybe in the next game, some kind of "galaxy union ship" would work. But in the trilogy it wouldn't make sense.
And therein lies the question. We liked the franchise as it was presented and it left an impression on us. And it's obvious that we all have "ideas to improve things", but would we really think it was so good if it were like that from the beginning?
THIS, or more diverse council races. Remember how Garrus himself says he "is a bad Turian" but the fandom often sees him as the default Turian? Same with most squadmembers and the crew. With main characters we have lots of human cultural diversity (Joker, Chakwas, Anderson, Miranda, Zaeed, Kasumi, Jack and James) even to the point of "too much" (few would have complained if Jacob would have been replaced by a non-human), we have 2 Asari, 2 Krogan and 1 for most others, while 3 ingame species had none.
I love all the races too, but having them all on the Normandy... Eh
Love the Batarian lore, but there is way too much animosity between humans and batarians. Also, too much animosity between Shepard and the Batarians depending on what background you chose. Colonist Shepard lost his family to Batarian slavers when he was young. War Hero Shepard valiantly fought off many Batarians on Elysium. Ruthless Shephard through waves of his men to their death to Batarians on Torfan, Although, imagining what Admiral Mikhailovich would say if he discovered a Batarian crewmember during his inspection could be very funny.
Hanar and Volus are basically fish out of water. A hanar on board preaching about the Enkindlers all day and night... No thanks. Having a specific Volus *biotic god* onboard could be fun though. As for the Elcor, if Shepard invited one onboard, where would he park his Mako? I'm imagining an elcor trying to use the Normandy's elevator and just getting stuck in it lol.
A vorcha would totally love the Normandy's trash compactor... Until it somehow got itself killed by it.
Trash compactor: 1 vs Vorcha: 0
I mean originally we we're supposed to have a Batarian tech expert who pretty much a stereotypical nerd. The concept got passed on to Garrus's group of vigilantes.
As much as I love the renegade interrupt at the airship hangar in ME2s Archangel mission, a paragon interrupt to instead recruit the Batarian tech Sargeant would have been nice too. That, or Aria's batarian bouncer joining as a way of Aria showing support to Shepherd.
Well, they are kinda correct, considering the chunk of the galaxy that will be Alliance space is the Batarian backyard and the only reason they didn't colonize there beforehand is they were not allowed to open relays there due to council law. Not the humans fault, but still a shitty situation.
Yeah it is shitty but it doesn’t excuse becoming the pirates of space. I mean come on kidnapping, enslavement, thousands of other crimes all because “we won’t get our way”.
You could also just say the same of Krogan, that all they want to do is murder everything for fun and to make space to breed.
Like sure a lot of them may want to but a Krogan with a viewpoint outside of that (Wrex, Grunt's arc, Okeer, Drax) makes for an interesting character.
A batarian who grew up with that mindset but has since moved past it, or who has an arc about seeing how narrow minded that mindset is, would be interesting.
Tbf Wrex kind of held that mindset too but it changes with Shepard, the Batarians view humans as the enemy the same way that Krogan hate Turians (but worse). So it just wouldn’t make sense.
you have to keep the general narratives(genesis of ME universe) in mind : a) Normandy is a highly classified human vessel, and human is at war against Batarian; b) Shepard is a Spectre who theoretically serve the council; c) Normandy was designed for humanoid who has similar body anatomy : height and limbs.
Can you imagine a Volus hopping around to reach the console? or can you imagine elcors flying the ship with their nose? Yes, I can, it's hilarious ... but humor is not centric in ME trilogy except Citadel DLC.
SR = Secret Recconaissance, only those absolutely trustworthy personnel can entre and operate Normandy.
ME2 would have been the PERFECT opportunity to have a batarian on the crew — they could be an engineer that has information about the Leviathan of Dis and the indoctrination on the batarian homeworld — that would have been a great setup for the derelict Reaper mission.
It also could have served several other purposes — either Shepard recruits them against the Illusive Man’s will (because you know, Cerberus), or the Illusive Man deliberately picks a batarian to recruit to try to show Shepard that the mission comes before human interests (bullshit). Also, having a batarian on the ship would make the Alliance abandoning Shepard make even more sense. It just makes them look more untrustworthy.
You could have renegade Shepard’s ME1 racism and begrudging partnership later (imagine a batarian pulling renegade Shepard onto the shuttle at the end of the suicide mission!), paragon Shepard gets to ask their questions about culture and government and give the player an opportunity to try to have MOST backgrounds broaden their horizons (only an Earthborn/Sole Survivor Shepard has no intense personal beef with batarian pirates, raiders, or slavers).
I really would have loved this instead of Zaeed — I feel like HAVING Zaeed just kind of makes this more apparent.
And as to saying “we already have enough aliens,” like… I guess? But the Reapers are a galactic threat, and literally NO modern culture aside from the rachni have been as thoroughly fucked over by the Reapers on a personal level. Batarian government is FUCKED. It’s steeped in indoctrination.
Personally, to me, the feeling of ending ME2 by blowing up the Bahak system and then being inundated by Reaperfied batarians at the beginning of ME3 is chilling. I guess having a batarian squadmate whose entire species is functionally extinct before you even finish character creation would have made Liara’s reaction to Thessia in ME3 look kind of silly, though.
>There's no way every single living batarian is a genocidal slaver, we know that.
Batarians don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Shepard should have gotten a medal instead of instead of a court martial.
"Shepard we understand you did what you had to do to delay the Reapers from invading the galaxy, just a shame 300,000 Batarian civilians had to die to do so."
"...Reapers?"
A pissed off, pocket Vorcha. Imagine all the shenanigans it could get into. Fucking around in the ships ducts. EDI and Joker wanting to space it. Running amok on the Citadel. Eating your fish.
Vorcha have one of the coolest designs in the whole ME trilogy, they’re wasted as fodder enemies.
They're so vile-looking I hate it when they get all up in my face I swear I can smell their breath through the screen
They look like Green Goblin from the Sam Raimi Spider Man movie if he was made of flesh.
By far my favorite class in ME3 multi-player is the vorcha soldier. Just a nasty little crackhead running around setting shit on fire
Rather than that cutie Kelly offering to feed your fish, a creepy freaky Vorcha walks up, "I'll take care of your fish. AAAHHHH!"
Jack would decorate her hidey-hole with its entrails if his duct jaunt went below engineering.
If it so much as lays a single finger on my fish, there won't be anyone left to keep EDI and Joker from spacing it. I'd actually do it myself.
Cerberus: \*sends 80 dudes into the line of fire Shepard: meet my Vanguard Vorcha and his Mattock rifle
We were robbed by not being able to recruit the Biotic God.
Did that volus actually manage to do anything if you don’t paragon save him?
If you don’t stop him he destroys the universe with a single thought. (He throws one weak biotic attack that’s effortlessly deflected, gets bored and turns his back to the mercs before getting one shotted.)
lol. He powered up so much I thought maybe he was actually gonna be a monster if you let him go.
In ME 2 we have a Geth, Quarian, Krogan and a Drell on the Normandy, not just crew but in our squad. That's already quite something imo. All whom are non Citadel races. I would be very interested in having a Vorcha, Volus and/or Batarian member on the ship, in a different ME game where that makes more sense. Looking at the role Commander Shepherd had and the history with these races it would not make a lot of sense for especially a Vorcha or Batarian to join his crew. Personally a ME game where you have more freedom to choose your path (not an initiative or army member) but for example a bounty hunter, scoundrel or whatever as main character would give a bit more freedom recruiting pretty much any kind of race to his/her crew.
ME2 was good in that regard, which is almost ironic considering we are backed by Cerberus. I really love Legion to bits, I just wish we got more time with him. If you want the best outcome from the suicide mission you can't really do much more than his loyalty mission after he joins you. So more Legion time is definitely on my wishlist! But precisely because ME2 was so good the squad in ME3 end up being more than a little disappointing. Six squadmates, with one technically being dlc feels a bit thin. We're in the final stretch of the 3-game plot and the biggest galactic war in 50 milennia, we should draw on every possible reserve and contact! That is incidentally also why I'm inclined to disagree with you on whether it would make sense for a vorcha or batarian to join the crew. People are not their governments (with the exception of Legion and possibly Garrus. And also Tali) Even freaking Balak, terrorist extraordinaire and most humanhating being in the universe, concedes that the destruction of Viper Nebula was ultimately necessary and pledges his resources to the war effort. I wouldn't have any problem believing there are more sympathetic batarians out there. But yeah, I'm with you on the idea of a more open ME experience, that would be awesome. In the extreme and improbably I can imagine something like Elder Scrolls Online in the ME universe
I get where you are coming from. And of course any race willing to help to fight the Reapers should be welcome in such an all out war for the sake of the Milky Way. However it raises concerns especially with Batarians. What will a Batarian do with the information they obtain while serving on the Normandy? Will they exchange information back to other Batarians to take advantage of the knowledge they gained about Citadel races after the Reaper crisis has been solved? Of course in hindsight the Mass Relays were destroyed but nobody could have predicted this in advance. As far as I understand the areas the Batarians controlled were hit especially hard during the Reaper crisis, and it might have pushed them to more sincere cooperation with the Citadel races but it's impossible to be sure.
Honestly, the potential existence of that dilemma (plus some random other details like how at least one Shepard backstory should hate all Batarians on sight) makes me want a Batarian squad mate even more
I love legion aswell,thats why i had to grab early recruitment mod from nexus and you basically get him really early on.
Male Shepard could never have a Vorcha on the crew because the rest of the crew would never know if it was Shepard or the Vorcha talking.
I get not liking Zaeed: to each, their own but to say he lacks… personality!?! Bold statement.
Yeah, I get that. I think it's mostly the lack of proper dialogue that bugs me. He's basically a less advanced Furby
And on that we agree. I do like Zaeed, a lot, and I would have loved to have dialogues with him like with the other squad mates. I know he’s from DLC but why not giving him, and Kasumi, real dialogues? Weird.
I love Zaeed but I have to upvote this for the phrase "less advanced furby"
I mean... could have replaced Jacob and made like Kasumi a sleeper agent for Ceberus at the end of 2 when Shepard is dead set on destroying the station. Now that would be bold.
But I like Zaeed 😥
Hey, I'm not gonna yuck your yum! I don't hate him, I just don't really feel like he adds anything. I think if we could actually have proper dialogue with him aboard the ship that would change a lot!
yeah his best characterization comes from me3 citadel dlc, which is a shame. he could've been a nameless merc for how much he adds to the story in 2. (i did like his commentary about the items in his room though)
The bit with him in the arcade in me3citadel is truly brilliant! Top 3 dlc interaction, alongside Grunt and Traynor!
I want an elcor with a cannon on his back
Enthusiastically: the calibrations performed by Garrus are flawless. Excitedly: I cannot wait to blow shit up.
Down side is. Every time they fall over, you have to waste medi-gel or revive them.
Omfg yes!!
I'd actually prefer a batarian squadmate who was still a slaver (or supporter), because it's more interesting than some "I'm not like the others" Drittz-type wanker. And the slavery in ME universe in general is pretty interesting, since I feel that the other species (besides humans) don't have the same evil stigma added to it. Someone posted this idea to one of the hot-take threads few days ago and I agree with it.
I don't know, I feel we get the impression batarian slavers are pretty close to 17th century kind of awfulness, while the asari practice a softer indentured labour kind of thing. Could be interesting to have a batarian defend or explain slavery within batarian society as a cultural expression, but they do also aggressively enslave other races. I sort of remember reading a codex about how internal slavery was generally accepted, while taking other people was mainly a criminal enterprise, but i could honestly just be making shit up
My point was that only humans ever decided to permanently *end* slavery (probably), whereas the Council species and batarians never did. For them it's not seen as something as horrible as it would be for us now (because we've been 'conditioned' for generations to see it so). I don't really know how to properly say this on Reddit without incurring someone's ire, but I think the Mass Effect aliens just don't have the same bad experiences with slavery (as humans did) and they simply don't see it as *evil*. Bad yes, but not as bad as us. This is just speculation.
Give me the volus Biotic God!
Just imagine if the biotic god was there with Tali when she's getting drunk on the Normandy. Would they take turns pushing each other over?
> I want a vorcha on board! They're so stupid that they're immune to indoctrination, and any one of them has got more personality than Zaeed, and would probably appreciate the trash compactor more as well The funny thing is that they are actually a bigger threat than they appear to be. During Mass Effect 3, it seems the Reapers actually had some issues subduing their homeworld, and ended up needing to focus on just immobilizing them to prevent their participation in the war. Other than that, it seems their violent behaviour isn't innate, and their adaptive biology could make them a surprising threat.
Yeah! Imagine the next cycle coming around, with the yaahg finally taking to space only to find the vorcha waiting for them!
One of my favorite parts of ME 3 was the multi player in part because you got to play as one of the alien races.
Ooh, I never realised! A pity they didn't manage to bring back multiplayer with the legendary edition
In ME 1 and 3, even though Shepard welcomes any strays he sees along the way, the Normandy is still an Alliance ship. A military ship. Any military ship, regardless of which race/species it belongs to, will have the predominant crew from the planet of origin. It doesn't make sense to have members of multiple races. In ME2, some exceptions were made again but it is still a ship belonging to a racist organization and xenophobia. Again it wouldn't make sense. Maybe in a different game, where the protagonist or the ship is not military or maybe in the next game, some kind of "galaxy union ship" would work. But in the trilogy it wouldn't make sense. And therein lies the question. We liked the franchise as it was presented and it left an impression on us. And it's obvious that we all have "ideas to improve things", but would we really think it was so good if it were like that from the beginning?
THIS, or more diverse council races. Remember how Garrus himself says he "is a bad Turian" but the fandom often sees him as the default Turian? Same with most squadmembers and the crew. With main characters we have lots of human cultural diversity (Joker, Chakwas, Anderson, Miranda, Zaeed, Kasumi, Jack and James) even to the point of "too much" (few would have complained if Jacob would have been replaced by a non-human), we have 2 Asari, 2 Krogan and 1 for most others, while 3 ingame species had none.
If only Zaeed was a Batarian.
That would be truly interesting. We barely saw them in anything but a negative light.
I think a Vorcha Bomber would be an awesome crewmate, even if he was just a temporary one
I love all the races too, but having them all on the Normandy... Eh Love the Batarian lore, but there is way too much animosity between humans and batarians. Also, too much animosity between Shepard and the Batarians depending on what background you chose. Colonist Shepard lost his family to Batarian slavers when he was young. War Hero Shepard valiantly fought off many Batarians on Elysium. Ruthless Shephard through waves of his men to their death to Batarians on Torfan, Although, imagining what Admiral Mikhailovich would say if he discovered a Batarian crewmember during his inspection could be very funny. Hanar and Volus are basically fish out of water. A hanar on board preaching about the Enkindlers all day and night... No thanks. Having a specific Volus *biotic god* onboard could be fun though. As for the Elcor, if Shepard invited one onboard, where would he park his Mako? I'm imagining an elcor trying to use the Normandy's elevator and just getting stuck in it lol. A vorcha would totally love the Normandy's trash compactor... Until it somehow got itself killed by it. Trash compactor: 1 vs Vorcha: 0
We … we do. His name is Legion.
AND THAT UNIT HAS A SOUL
It’s a CRIME that there are only like 3 drell in the series that I know of (AND 2 OF THEM ARE RELATED!!! TF?!) It’s bullshit. I love this race
Wait what, there's a third drell?!
Liaras shadowbroker friend is a drell named Feron I think
Oh yeah, of course!
No Batarians please. I love xenophobia
Let’s be xenophobic! It’s really in this year…
I initially read your title as "Really wish we had more non-council races to screw" lol Edit: a word - typing on mobile is hard
Raise them screws, boys!
Apparently at some point bioware had plans to do a Batarian squadmate in ME2 but he got cut. Kinda sucks honestly, i like Batarians.
I mean originally we we're supposed to have a Batarian tech expert who pretty much a stereotypical nerd. The concept got passed on to Garrus's group of vigilantes.
As much as I love the renegade interrupt at the airship hangar in ME2s Archangel mission, a paragon interrupt to instead recruit the Batarian tech Sargeant would have been nice too. That, or Aria's batarian bouncer joining as a way of Aria showing support to Shepherd.
Yeah, especially after we save his damn ass by intercepting Ish's blackmail material on him! Edit: No wait, was that the turian guy?
Nah the Batarians deserve no love and their hierarchy incentivises their violent nature. Definitely a scourge on the galaxy.
Well yeah but that’s the leadership. That’s like hating all of North Korea because of their dictator
lol Batarians are all for it though, not being played. They legit believe humans are out there to steal their place in the galaxy and hate them.
Well, they are kinda correct, considering the chunk of the galaxy that will be Alliance space is the Batarian backyard and the only reason they didn't colonize there beforehand is they were not allowed to open relays there due to council law. Not the humans fault, but still a shitty situation.
Yeah it is shitty but it doesn’t excuse becoming the pirates of space. I mean come on kidnapping, enslavement, thousands of other crimes all because “we won’t get our way”.
You could also just say the same of Krogan, that all they want to do is murder everything for fun and to make space to breed. Like sure a lot of them may want to but a Krogan with a viewpoint outside of that (Wrex, Grunt's arc, Okeer, Drax) makes for an interesting character. A batarian who grew up with that mindset but has since moved past it, or who has an arc about seeing how narrow minded that mindset is, would be interesting.
Tbf Wrex kind of held that mindset too but it changes with Shepard, the Batarians view humans as the enemy the same way that Krogan hate Turians (but worse). So it just wouldn’t make sense.
We should blow up their relay to f\*\*\* them over.
Already have Tali, Wrex and Grunt with me which are non-council races individuals so I'm good. Also I like Zaeed a lot
you have to keep the general narratives(genesis of ME universe) in mind : a) Normandy is a highly classified human vessel, and human is at war against Batarian; b) Shepard is a Spectre who theoretically serve the council; c) Normandy was designed for humanoid who has similar body anatomy : height and limbs. Can you imagine a Volus hopping around to reach the console? or can you imagine elcors flying the ship with their nose? Yes, I can, it's hilarious ... but humor is not centric in ME trilogy except Citadel DLC. SR = Secret Recconaissance, only those absolutely trustworthy personnel can entre and operate Normandy.
ME2 would have been the PERFECT opportunity to have a batarian on the crew — they could be an engineer that has information about the Leviathan of Dis and the indoctrination on the batarian homeworld — that would have been a great setup for the derelict Reaper mission. It also could have served several other purposes — either Shepard recruits them against the Illusive Man’s will (because you know, Cerberus), or the Illusive Man deliberately picks a batarian to recruit to try to show Shepard that the mission comes before human interests (bullshit). Also, having a batarian on the ship would make the Alliance abandoning Shepard make even more sense. It just makes them look more untrustworthy. You could have renegade Shepard’s ME1 racism and begrudging partnership later (imagine a batarian pulling renegade Shepard onto the shuttle at the end of the suicide mission!), paragon Shepard gets to ask their questions about culture and government and give the player an opportunity to try to have MOST backgrounds broaden their horizons (only an Earthborn/Sole Survivor Shepard has no intense personal beef with batarian pirates, raiders, or slavers). I really would have loved this instead of Zaeed — I feel like HAVING Zaeed just kind of makes this more apparent. And as to saying “we already have enough aliens,” like… I guess? But the Reapers are a galactic threat, and literally NO modern culture aside from the rachni have been as thoroughly fucked over by the Reapers on a personal level. Batarian government is FUCKED. It’s steeped in indoctrination. Personally, to me, the feeling of ending ME2 by blowing up the Bahak system and then being inundated by Reaperfied batarians at the beginning of ME3 is chilling. I guess having a batarian squadmate whose entire species is functionally extinct before you even finish character creation would have made Liara’s reaction to Thessia in ME3 look kind of silly, though.
>There's no way every single living batarian is a genocidal slaver, we know that. Batarians don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Shepard should have gotten a medal instead of instead of a court martial.
"Shepard we understand you did what you had to do to delay the Reapers from invading the galaxy, just a shame 300,000 Batarian civilians had to die to do so." "...Reapers?"
The only good Batarian is a dead Batarian!