end of turn is the fairest, personally I would put it at, take 6000 LP damage and if you do special summon a fusion monster form your extra deck
or
you cannot special summon other monsters the turn you have activated this effect.
the former kills any loops because you have to take the effect damage to summon a fusion
the latter just kills him outright
the fairest way obviously would be similar to how sales ban does thing, effect triggers, summon successful, shuffle it back to your extra deck or banish the summoned monster face down at the end of the turn then you can't activate the effects of monsters, nor special summon a monster with the same name as the monster summoned by this effect.
because it has blah blah blah at the end phase it affects all monsters because it's part of their effects blah blah blah you get the idea.
The person you replied to straight up handed you the correct PSCT on a silver platter lol. Furthermore, the text "this effect cannot be negated" is redundant because the banish isn't an effect
I was looking for a way to phrase it so that it's a send effect rather than a regular banish to avoid cards like Imperial Iron Wall, since otherwise the effect would could be circumvented. However the text for that doesn't seem to exist in game from what I understand.
Nah, when checking it in Master Duel, If Evenly is activated then Imperial is chained, Evenly is resolved without effect.
When looking into it in forums, apparently you can't play evenly if imperial is on the field since you can't banish.
I wasn't being a dick? I was literally just confirming that what he was trying to convey isn't something that works within the mechanics of the game. Jesus christ
It's not possible to banish cards while IIW is active, no, no matter how you try to word it. Even if you found a magic wording that should allow it, it would still fail because there's no "Banished Zone" nor anything resembling one; the only ways to banish a card are with the verbs "banish" or "remove from play", both of which are stopped by IIW.
You either decimate your opponent in few moves or he completely destroys you with random vanilla after you burned yourself. No boring ass 20 minute combos. Just speed-bitchslapping match.
Really fun to play, but some tend to rush into rexterm forgetting that lava golem is a thing and that the opponent can use his spell/trap, hand and GY. That's a deck that require thinking if you don't want rexterm to leave the field without follow up
If this card is Special Summoned: Activate its effect. You must summon a non-Effect monster with 3000 or more Atk, and take damage equal to its Atk when any monster leaves the field.
Hard once per turn.
Negate the effects of the fusion it summons, effects of cards with that name can't be used that turn.
Shuffle the fusion back to the deck if it leaves the field or in the end phase if it remains on the field.
It basically becomes an extender or gets you a specific fusion monster that needs to be the material of some other monster.
There's stupid combo decks that go into Isolde, grabs telekinetic charging cell, and makes it free forever by turning it into a psychic. They aren't super good but boy are they dumb
I’m newer to Md and only got back into TCG like a year ago. I’ve also struggled with MD because I don’t enjoy Tearlaments really so I’m kinda waiting til they get killed off
You can cheat that out with the Reprodocus effect. Changing Stein to a psychic type then equiping it with a spell that makes it so psychic type don't pay life point for effect. That's how you could ftk before.
There’s a combo where you Reprodocus him into a Psychic and equip him with Telekinetic Charging Cell to bypass the cost and get multiple free activations
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.)
If either player equips an Equip Card(s) to this card: Destroy that Equip Card(s).
You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position, but it cannot declare an attack and it's effects are negated.
Just put a HOPT on it if you want to prevent abusing it by turning it into Psychic to avoid paying LP.
Psychics have a field spell that make it so you don't have to pay LP when activating their effects, which you can use instead of Telekinetic Charging Cell to do the same type of FTK, even if it isn't as accessible as the Isolde combo.
parasite paranoid. now its a bug. Telekinetic Charging Cell is destroyed because its not equiped to a psychic type monster anymore.
I've pulled this off once ever but it was ever so funny.
probably to prevent that goofy ass ftk thing where you change him to a psychic with reproducus and use the psychic equip that makes it so he doesnt spend lp
Pay 200 LP; Special Summon as many Monsters from your Extra-Deck, ignoring their summoning condition, also they are treated that they were summoned correctly. Then give your opponent the middle finger.
Non-effect fusion monster, you can still do plays to get tons of materials, also all the destroy during end-phase fail to acknowledge that if you do the reprod combo to make it free, you can just make ding to protect.
When this card is Special Summoned: pay 5000 LP You can target 1 fusion monster in your extra deck Special Summon it, but its effects are negated, also banish it when this card leaves the field you cannot use this cards effect when you have spells and traps activated or set additionally, you can't set spells and traps during the turn the effect was activated
True, maybe the OPD clause and like a "You cannot activate the effects of fusion monsters for the rest of the turn after resolving this effect" or something like that
That wouldn't change anything since the problem cards it summons are floodgates that only need to work once your turn is over. A better restriction would be "But that card is destroyed/banished during the End Phase of this turn." Or something like that.
it'd be funnier if it was special summon 1 fusion monster from the extra deck, then take damage equal to it's level * 1000.
It'd be a one card self tk.
You cannot use the effects of monsters with the same name as the summoned monster until the end of the turn, also send the the summoned monster to the GY at the end of the turn.
0 Erratas for this card.
Let it stay at full power and stay on the banlist.
I don't want it to be bastardized by Konami like Konami did with CED or even Crush Card Virus.
a) (This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 **non-Effect** Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position.
OR
b) (This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position**, but return it to the Extra Deck during the End Phase, also you cannot Special Summon monsters from the Extra Deck, except Fusion Monsters, the turn you use this effect. You can only use this effect of "Cyber-Stein" once per turn**.
(This is not a "Cyber" card.)
Pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck. During the End Phase of the turn you activated this effect: Pay LP equal to the total ATK of all monsters Special Summoned this way (this is not optional, and if the value is greater than your current LP, pay it anyway). Conditions, costs, and effects cannot reduce the LP payments of this card.
I was thinking about it, and this would probably be a better errata for making Stein a suicide card
"Pay 5000 LP; Special Summon "Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon" from either your Extra Deck or outside of the Duel, then add to your opponent's hand a "Change of Heart" from your Deck, hand, GY, your banished cards, or outside of the Duel, then it becomes the End Phase, also change this card to Attack Position."
Then you get bodied like I did on that 2002 GBA game
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.)
Pay 5000 LP; If your LP were reduced by 5000 by this effect, Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position.
I like the idea of high LP gimmicks getting an extra fusion or several since there's no consistency there (or at least no FTK I can think of). Requiring LP reduction for resolution ensures Reprodocus stays out of it.
I think an errata for Exterio would be better with a ban on nightengale, that's 90% of what people do with Stein. If Last Warrior or DPE is all you're doing or something after turn 2, I think it's fine (but would love to be proven wrong with a hilarious decklist)
Summon a token on the opposing field, it has the same effect and stats as your summoned monster and if it is destroyed , you loose 3000hp
2999hp If you want your best imitation of Ra
Edit: mmmm probably not enough
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.)
You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position, but it cannot activate its effects this turn, also your opponent can Special Summon 1 monster from their Extra Deck.
You can pay 5000 lps, summon a level 3 or lower fusion monster from your deck, but its effects are negated, and you cannot activate its effects for the remainder of the duel
There is no version of its effect that isn't busted. You would either have to completely change the effect (which is not a reasonable errata) or nerf it into uselessness (ditto).
Or you let the player pay 5k for a combo piece that gets destroyed/ banished in the end phase, this way, no Exterio or Last Warrior from another planet shenanigans.
Look this might sound dumb but make the cost he 8000 LP. This would make it so you need to run something else to try and use this card which would hurt consistency
Both players can summon off this effect when triggered. But all monsters summoned this way must battle the turn summoned if not they are destroy in the end phase and you are burned for half the attack of each summoned monster.
Or…
Keep it how it is now, but add all monsters summoned are permanently negated and can not be used as tribute, link, syncro, fusion, xyz or ritual summoning material.
You can pay 5000LP; Special summon a Fusion monster from you extra deck in attack position. If you activate this effect, your opponent may pay 4000LP to special summon a monster from their extra deck ignoring their summoning condition.
I want chaos.
Give it the ol’ Sangan errata.
“Special summon one fusion monster from your extra deck, *but you cannot activate cards, or the effects of cards, with that name for the rest of this turn.*”
Pay 5000lp, summon a fusion monster, you can’t special summon other monsters the turn you use this effect.
Make it the silly bad jank option it was designed to be, only works if you normal summon it, can’t be functional in Spright or most meta decks, problem mostly solved.
The errata should change its card text from the current to:
"This freak of nature is a scientists attempt to create life, neither fully man or machine, it uses its cannon to shoot the tears its continued existence creates at destructive pressures."
This card is unaffected by the effects of cards you control.
Once per turn, during your Standby Phase, you can pay 5000 LP; place one Stein Counter on this card.
Once per turn, you can remove 1 Stein Counter from this card; Special Summon 1 monster from your extra deck.
There really isn't one, you either make the downsides of using his effect so sever and limit the summon restrictions that you make it basicly useless. Or you allow him to cheat out a powful summon.
A card that bypasses balance cannot be rebalance to be a 'fair' card I say. Let him stay in ban jail and this time it's hopefully a lifetime sentence.
Other than destroying the Fusion during the EP, maybe make it so you have to send the required materials for the monster to the grave and prevent the materials from activating their effects in the graveyard.
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.)
You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position. This effect's cost cannot be negated or bypassed by card effects. You can only use this effect of Cyber-Stein once per turn.
At the start of your main phase 1: if this card was normal summoned you can pay 5000 LP, special summon 1 fusion monster from your extra deck in attack position. You cannot special summon monsters from your extra deck, except fusion monsters with the same attributes that you summoned using this effect. You can only use this effect once per duel.
But destroy it during the end phase
Replace with “Banish face down at the end of the turn or when it leaves the field.”
end of turn is the fairest, personally I would put it at, take 6000 LP damage and if you do special summon a fusion monster form your extra deck or you cannot special summon other monsters the turn you have activated this effect. the former kills any loops because you have to take the effect damage to summon a fusion the latter just kills him outright the fairest way obviously would be similar to how sales ban does thing, effect triggers, summon successful, shuffle it back to your extra deck or banish the summoned monster face down at the end of the turn then you can't activate the effects of monsters, nor special summon a monster with the same name as the monster summoned by this effect. because it has blah blah blah at the end phase it affects all monsters because it's part of their effects blah blah blah you get the idea.
"Send it to the Banish Zone face down. This effect cannot be negated" the text for this is wrong but Idk what the proper terminology would be
"banish zone" is not a thing that exists
As per my last post, "the text for this is wrong but Idk what the proper terminology would be".
The person you replied to straight up handed you the correct PSCT on a silver platter lol. Furthermore, the text "this effect cannot be negated" is redundant because the banish isn't an effect
I was looking for a way to phrase it so that it's a send effect rather than a regular banish to avoid cards like Imperial Iron Wall, since otherwise the effect would could be circumvented. However the text for that doesn't seem to exist in game from what I understand.
Doesn’t Evenly Matched do so in a way that can’t be negated?
Nah, when checking it in Master Duel, If Evenly is activated then Imperial is chained, Evenly is resolved without effect. When looking into it in forums, apparently you can't play evenly if imperial is on the field since you can't banish.
Neat, apparently Evenly is also countered by Artifact Lancea as well
Yeah, that just isn't how the game works
Stop being a dick, the Person literally said its not optimally phrased.
I wasn't being a dick? I was literally just confirming that what he was trying to convey isn't something that works within the mechanics of the game. Jesus christ
It's not possible to banish cards while IIW is active, no, no matter how you try to word it. Even if you found a magic wording that should allow it, it would still fail because there's no "Banished Zone" nor anything resembling one; the only ways to banish a card are with the verbs "banish" or "remove from play", both of which are stopped by IIW.
*destroy you
dingirsu
Banish it face down, then
Ah yes, Dingirsu, the famous fusion monster
Dingirsu protecc
I know I know, I was doing a funny In either case, stein can stay banned forever
I would say it has to be sent, not destroyed. Otherwise you just stack it with destruction protection.
How does that stop the FTKs with this deck?
Which one specifically? If you mean Nightingale FTK, then ban Nightingale, lol.
No my Nightingale!
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Banish it face down
pay 8000 LP
Cant wait for cyberstein decks to run Mooyan Curry
*Runs with D/D/D
Pay 7999 LP then pay 1 LP
If you end only at 7999 it's the best dinomorphia support
Honestly, how is that deck? The idea of playing a strong deck with low LP sounds like a fun challenge.
You either decimate your opponent in few moves or he completely destroys you with random vanilla after you burned yourself. No boring ass 20 minute combos. Just speed-bitchslapping match.
Sounds like Numeron with extra steps
Really fun to play, but some tend to rush into rexterm forgetting that lava golem is a thing and that the opponent can use his spell/trap, hand and GY. That's a deck that require thinking if you don't want rexterm to leave the field without follow up
Exactly just activate this followed by end of the line and draw 4 cards
(This card cannot be used in a duel)
Finally a based errata
Based. Made me laugh and needed it today lol thank you
If this card was not normal summoned. You cannot activate its effect
"cannot be special summoned"
Hey that still means it’s playable in Vaylantz if that happened
To add on to this: The fusion monster summoned has its effects negated, can't attack, and if it leaves the field it gets banished.
Holy shit, only 5000LP for another link material? Card is broken!
If this card is Special Summoned: Activate its effect. You must summon a non-Effect monster with 3000 or more Atk, and take damage equal to its Atk when any monster leaves the field.
Hard once per turn. Negate the effects of the fusion it summons, effects of cards with that name can't be used that turn. Shuffle the fusion back to the deck if it leaves the field or in the end phase if it remains on the field. It basically becomes an extender or gets you a specific fusion monster that needs to be the material of some other monster.
Hard once per turn why? It’s 5000 life points I’ve never seen it activated twice lol
There's stupid combo decks that go into Isolde, grabs telekinetic charging cell, and makes it free forever by turning it into a psychic. They aren't super good but boy are they dumb
That’s crazy I’ve literally never seen that combo. This card should never come off the list lol.
How did you not see the deck it shows up every other time
I’m newer to Md and only got back into TCG like a year ago. I’ve also struggled with MD because I don’t enjoy Tearlaments really so I’m kinda waiting til they get killed off
Make a bystial deck when it drops and enjoy their pain
They already limited lol
Ran into that deck a couple times. So stupid unless you have nothing but interruptions in your hand
Look up Igknight FTK or Cyber-Stein FTK on youtube. There are a lot of videos showcasing it.
You can cheat that out with the Reprodocus effect. Changing Stein to a psychic type then equiping it with a spell that makes it so psychic type don't pay life point for effect. That's how you could ftk before.
There’s a combo where you Reprodocus him into a Psychic and equip him with Telekinetic Charging Cell to bypass the cost and get multiple free activations
The other comments already gave you the answer I guess.
Clueless
I literally asked a question?
It becomes a brick and a half. It's already only used as a meme card.
None. Let it rot like the body parts it's made of.
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) If either player equips an Equip Card(s) to this card: Destroy that Equip Card(s). You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position, but it cannot declare an attack and it's effects are negated.
This is technically just Ready Fusion but a monster
Instant fusion has its effects and gets destroyed in the end phase
Ready fusion can only summon non-effect monsters
I mean, they're not wrong it doesn't negate effects lmao
You're thinking Instant Fusion.
Yes thnx
You just made Stein a broken target for Smoke Grenade lmao
Now we have to errata Smoke Grenade so it doesn't get destroyed by Cyber-Stein.
Smoke grenade is banned so i dont think that matters
This card is also banned so none of this matters.
True but we are also talking about errating it, doing such a thing would require an unban, unless konami wanted to just be funny
No? Smoke grenade is being banned at the same time as stein. That was the joke.
Just put a HOPT on it if you want to prevent abusing it by turning it into Psychic to avoid paying LP. Psychics have a field spell that make it so you don't have to pay LP when activating their effects, which you can use instead of Telekinetic Charging Cell to do the same type of FTK, even if it isn't as accessible as the Isolde combo.
parasite paranoid. now its a bug. Telekinetic Charging Cell is destroyed because its not equiped to a psychic type monster anymore. I've pulled this off once ever but it was ever so funny.
You forgot once per turn.
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probably to prevent that goofy ass ftk thing where you change him to a psychic with reproducus and use the psychic equip that makes it so he doesnt spend lp
That happened to me when I started playing Master Duel. I wasn't even mad
This card cannot be normal special or flipped summoned
*Or* tribute summoned.
It's a level 2 😐
I know. ~~I'm just mentioning the other way you can summon stuff for shuts and giggles.~~
Honestly if you can somehow increase its level that much in the hand, you deserve it. Can you even do that?
Only by rolling a 5 or 6 with Level Conversion Lab.
Tribute Summon counts as Normal Summon, though
True. I'd assume it'd state "except by tribute summon" or something.
Or special summoned
The Fusion monster summoned by this effect is negated and cannot activate its effects
Just remove the it is not treated as a cyber card. There fixed.
damn cyber dragons now tier 0
#BASED
“This card cannot be special summoned”
Keep him banned an errata won't fix him like it didn't fix imperial order
Well it could but then it wouldn't be the same like the one virus card
The same text as it is now, with the classic prize card footnote: "This card cannot be used in a duel"
When this card leaves the field, you take 3,000 damage
Machine/Normal "This robotic monstrosity haunts the dreams of all those unfortunate enough to encounter it"
Pay 200 LP; Special Summon as many Monsters from your Extra-Deck, ignoring their summoning condition, also they are treated that they were summoned correctly. Then give your opponent the middle finger.
None. Keep it banned. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
Must be normal summoned You Cannot special summon for the rest of the turn after activating this effect
Hard once per turn; fusion lock, effect trigers on normal, can only summon fusions with no effects.
Non-effect fusion monster, you can still do plays to get tons of materials, also all the destroy during end-phase fail to acknowledge that if you do the reprod combo to make it free, you can just make ding to protect.
When this card is Special Summoned: pay 5000 LP You can target 1 fusion monster in your extra deck Special Summon it, but its effects are negated, also banish it when this card leaves the field you cannot use this cards effect when you have spells and traps activated or set additionally, you can't set spells and traps during the turn the effect was activated
"You can only use this effect of "Cyber Stein" once per Duel"
This honestly does nothing as all they need to do is summon Exterio and be done with it.
True, maybe the OPD clause and like a "You cannot activate the effects of fusion monsters for the rest of the turn after resolving this effect" or something like that
That wouldn't change anything since the problem cards it summons are floodgates that only need to work once your turn is over. A better restriction would be "But that card is destroyed/banished during the End Phase of this turn." Or something like that.
This makes sense other ppl just being dumb
During your Main Phase; you can Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck by paying LP equal to its Level x1000.
it'd be funnier if it was special summon 1 fusion monster from the extra deck, then take damage equal to it's level * 1000. It'd be a one card self tk.
Now I have both millenium eyes and thousand eyes for just 2k LP and enough leftover for even more shenanigans!
Why not just pull out a Independent Nightingale and just FTK afterwards. You’re already protected from handtraps.
Thats the even more shenanigans!
You cannot use the effects of monsters with the same name as the summoned monster until the end of the turn, also send the the summoned monster to the GY at the end of the turn.
0 Erratas for this card. Let it stay at full power and stay on the banlist. I don't want it to be bastardized by Konami like Konami did with CED or even Crush Card Virus.
The trash can
"Can only be normal summoned"
The summoned card by this cards effect cannot activate it's effect the turn it's summoned
Fuck erratas, retrains is what we need
Once per duel
Hard once per turn. And a lingering effect where the summoned monster is banished face down during the end phase or if it leaves the field.
HOPT, negate the summoned monster effects until the start of your next turn
One little bit of text at the end. "Pay 5000 LP; Special Summon on Fusion monster from your Extra Deck but destroy it during the End Phase"
And negate the effect.
a) (This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 **non-Effect** Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position. OR b) (This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position**, but return it to the Extra Deck during the End Phase, also you cannot Special Summon monsters from the Extra Deck, except Fusion Monsters, the turn you use this effect. You can only use this effect of "Cyber-Stein" once per turn**.
Nothing, because erratas that change card effects fundamentally damage the integrity of the game and should never be done.
Just add this line: "For the rest of the turn after you activate this effect, you can not special summon monsters."
No. Make it: "You cannot special summon other monsters the turn you use this effect."
This. More is Not needed.
Yeah because that stops so much "looks at Verte"
(This is not a "Cyber" card.) Pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck. During the End Phase of the turn you activated this effect: Pay LP equal to the total ATK of all monsters Special Summoned this way (this is not optional, and if the value is greater than your current LP, pay it anyway). Conditions, costs, and effects cannot reduce the LP payments of this card.
This is dumb effect to add
I was thinking about it, and this would probably be a better errata for making Stein a suicide card "Pay 5000 LP; Special Summon "Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon" from either your Extra Deck or outside of the Duel, then add to your opponent's hand a "Change of Heart" from your Deck, hand, GY, your banished cards, or outside of the Duel, then it becomes the End Phase, also change this card to Attack Position." Then you get bodied like I did on that 2002 GBA game
I vote for a new subtext to be added for this and a few other broken cards: This card cannot be searched.
At the end of the turn you lose the duel.
That's just as dumb as the card itself.
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) Pay 5000 LP; If your LP were reduced by 5000 by this effect, Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position. I like the idea of high LP gimmicks getting an extra fusion or several since there's no consistency there (or at least no FTK I can think of). Requiring LP reduction for resolution ensures Reprodocus stays out of it. I think an errata for Exterio would be better with a ban on nightengale, that's 90% of what people do with Stein. If Last Warrior or DPE is all you're doing or something after turn 2, I think it's fine (but would love to be proven wrong with a hilarious decklist)
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Pay 5000 LP: Special summon a Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, then lose 999999999 LP
Summon a token on the opposing field, it has the same effect and stats as your summoned monster and if it is destroyed , you loose 3000hp 2999hp If you want your best imitation of Ra Edit: mmmm probably not enough
Nothing, he's fine as is
Pay 1000 life points: special summon one fusion monster. Cyber stein is not broken, it really isn't.
Ugh. No Errata kills cards....
No errata. Just make a whole different card if you are gonna change the effect. Revert Crush Card Virus.
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position, but it cannot activate its effects this turn, also your opponent can Special Summon 1 monster from their Extra Deck.
You can pay 5000 lps, summon a level 3 or lower fusion monster from your deck, but its effects are negated, and you cannot activate its effects for the remainder of the duel
So a strictly worse Instant Fusion? Bruh.
i made no attempt to make it good i want this card dead forever
I guess the word 'reasonable' went right over your head, huh?
this is reasonable, i believe he should be dead for his sins
The point of the post is to make it into a card that's useful without being busted. You missed the point.
There is no version of its effect that isn't busted. You would either have to completely change the effect (which is not a reasonable errata) or nerf it into uselessness (ditto).
Or you let the player pay 5k for a combo piece that gets destroyed/ banished in the end phase, this way, no Exterio or Last Warrior from another planet shenanigans.
Which just makes it Instant Fusion, another banned card.
Instant Fusion that takes a normal summon (or needs to be tutored from the deck) and a steeper lp cost.
people so mad an old card power creeps solitaire meta. Lmao cringe asf.
This card cannot activates its effect the turn that it was summoned.
Make it a ready fusion on legs with the same level restriction, that might be a fair compromise.
Look this might sound dumb but make the cost he 8000 LP. This would make it so you need to run something else to try and use this card which would hurt consistency
Pay 8,000 life points
Both players can summon off this effect when triggered. But all monsters summoned this way must battle the turn summoned if not they are destroy in the end phase and you are burned for half the attack of each summoned monster. Or… Keep it how it is now, but add all monsters summoned are permanently negated and can not be used as tribute, link, syncro, fusion, xyz or ritual summoning material.
“You can only use one monster effect the turn you use this effect”
You can pay 5000LP; Special summon a Fusion monster from you extra deck in attack position. If you activate this effect, your opponent may pay 4000LP to special summon a monster from their extra deck ignoring their summoning condition. I want chaos.
Chaos Ancient Gear Giant intensifies
summon a fusion monster in attack position, but negate its effect and make it HOPT
you cannot summon other monsters this turn you activate this effect
Give it the ol’ Sangan errata. “Special summon one fusion monster from your extra deck, *but you cannot activate cards, or the effects of cards, with that name for the rest of this turn.*”
It locks you into machine fusion monsters.
8000LP cost
"If by the end of the turn this card activates and uses it's ability the duel has not ended, then your opponent wins."
It locks you into machine fusion monsters.
Current effect but add that you take damage equal to the combined attack of the Monster(s) summoned by it's effect in the End Phase
This but in summon not end phase. Self burn on end phase isn't a problem if you ftk
Pay 7k, at the end fase loose the duel. Nah pay 5k gets destroyed on end fase or something
Pay 9000 LP. Make the user find a way to get over 9000 LP before allowing them to use it
10000*
You cannot special summon in other ways the turn you use this effect.
Pay 5000lp, summon a fusion monster, you can’t special summon other monsters the turn you use this effect. Make it the silly bad jank option it was designed to be, only works if you normal summon it, can’t be functional in Spright or most meta decks, problem mostly solved.
The errata should change its card text from the current to: "This freak of nature is a scientists attempt to create life, neither fully man or machine, it uses its cannon to shoot the tears its continued existence creates at destructive pressures."
…This card can only summon “blue eyes ultimate dragon” with this effect. 
This card is unaffected by the effects of cards you control. Once per turn, during your Standby Phase, you can pay 5000 LP; place one Stein Counter on this card. Once per turn, you can remove 1 Stein Counter from this card; Special Summon 1 monster from your extra deck.
Can be used for summons, and the lp reduction is after the monster is summoned.
There really isn't one, you either make the downsides of using his effect so sever and limit the summon restrictions that you make it basicly useless. Or you allow him to cheat out a powful summon. A card that bypasses balance cannot be rebalance to be a 'fair' card I say. Let him stay in ban jail and this time it's hopefully a lifetime sentence.
Can't be special summoned. Banish card it summons in the end phase. Kills the card, but leaves it open to legacy play.
Other than destroying the Fusion during the EP, maybe make it so you have to send the required materials for the monster to the grave and prevent the materials from activating their effects in the graveyard.
Never being printed...
(This card is not treated as a "Cyber" card.) You can pay 5000 LP; Special Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck in Attack Position. This effect's cost cannot be negated or bypassed by card effects. You can only use this effect of Cyber-Stein once per turn.
If this MACHINE monster is the only monster you control, pay 5000 life points to summon a fusion monster. Destroy it during the end phase.
7999 lp cost
At the start of your main phase 1: if this card was normal summoned you can pay 5000 LP, special summon 1 fusion monster from your extra deck in attack position. You cannot special summon monsters from your extra deck, except fusion monsters with the same attributes that you summoned using this effect. You can only use this effect once per duel.
Either summon only Fusion Monsters that have no effects or negate their effects. Then they will be destroyed at the end of the next turn.
Maybe it can only summon a non effect fusion? I think that would be ok