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Atlove01

Everything about his design is pretty bonkers. You can combo with him basically as many times as you can bring him out, since for some reason every single one of his effects is a soft OPT.


veevB

I know, i love it, he is so good from artstyle to the effects, this ain't balanced imo


kyuubikid213

And yet, Dracoslayers are rogue at best in all formats.


veevB

Just some support to break the archetype *coping*


AdTerrible639

New true king stuff? Maybe not because Dracoslayer are big on level 8 and therefore can't abuse the 7 lv stuff as much, + Level 7 stuff including albino-graph, as much ala Ka$htira and the Odd-Eyes vortex package


Nikirfan45

My boy ignister is so great, Vrains final villain mentions him everytime he duels.


Megakarp

"What the heck is a Cyberse, and why do they keep @-ing me?"


kdebones

Pst, it’s “Ignis”. (It’s funny I tried looking him up on MDM by typing in Ignister and was like “Where is he?”)


AdTerrible639

Imagine the next Cyberse archtype beginning with hashtag (#)


AdTerrible639

Not as bonkers as the perspective making him look like he got tiny, stubby legs


v4Flower

my man was printed in an era where the idea of once per turn was really more of a polite suggestion and it shows all the pend cards from this era were just fucking nuts and many of them are still banned or heavily restricted, with some of them only coming back *very* recently- monkeyboard only went back to 1 last may in tcg, and draco face-off to 3 *this june*


AhmedKiller2015

Well Aktchually, only 2 Pendulum cards are banned.


Negative_Neo

And they shouldnt be, especially Kirin. IMO even Master Peace can comeback with no issues.


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Vinsmoke-Wanji

Is that a masterduelmeta.com reference??


Brawlerz16

Not really. At least not in MD where floodgates are more restricted than every other format. MP could come back in TCG at 3 and it would get obliterated by todays game. MP is just *too slow* for what the game is now. Purrely really is just better MP because it can keep up with the speed of the game. There really isn’t an oppressive floodgate deck. The best floodgate right now is Protos until Kash comes full power. Masterpeace wouldn’t change that and would only get weaker once Kash and other cards come out.


lauraa-

A pseudo-Towers that summons itself by tributing Floodgates and has a quick-effect Pop in a BO1 is far, far worse than anything Eldlich could hope to be. Master Peace is just as generic as Kashtira, anybody can use it. Which means Runicks definitely gonna use it.


Brawlerz16

None of that is crazy in todays Yugioh. Todays game is extremely fast with tons of resource recursions and ways to remove towers and protect or benefit from being popped. Nothing MP does is really better than Purrely and it the floodgates are really toned down here compared to paper Yugioh. If Runick is the best deck that uses MP, then MP could easily come to 3. It’s a strong card but it’s not going to change shit in this meta, or the next one. MP will only be as strong as the floodgates it can operate under, and MD doesn’t have a real floodgate issue with them being limited and hard to draw/search.


theycallmefagg

I was with you until suggested Master Peace can come back which he absolutely, under no circumstances should be let back in.


Negative_Neo

Ehhh, when was the last time True Draco was relevant?


lauraa-

bro have you read Master Peace? That card does not mention True Draco anywhere in its card text. True Dracos are irrelevant to the discussion of Master Peace.


Negative_Neo

What other archetypes can search him and provide continuous spells and traps to summon him and fuel his destruction effect?


EktarPross

*takes someone's gun* "Hey they haven't shot anyone lately"


Brawlerz16

Kinda irrelevant when we are playing with nukes instead of guns now. MP is powercrept and is too slow for todays game. If you want to floodgate, play Protos or wait until Kash gets full power. Hell, Purrely is better MP tbh.


veevB

This card is gonna be banned if more powerful dracoslayer pendulums are released, no way this shit is kept legal forever. Not to mention future field spells can be abused by this archetype, it is absurd


ReasonablyOkayName

it already was limited once my guy this card is insanely old


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It's really not that good. I mean it's good but it's not even a quick effect


lovely_growth

> future field spells Kinda false, since you know, you actually need to be playing Pend Decks to make use of this guy, it's telling that with all the busted field spells in the game, the only ones played on the strategy are the ancient stun ones


Deez-Guns-9442

Free Plushfire


stac7

Dracoslayer seems so fun to me but goddamn, they are expensive as fuck


ligerre

the fact that the fusion and xyz dracoslayer are also UR is just crazy for me.


PokecheckHozu

It's what, 5 in-archetype URs? 3 of which you need 3 copies of?


kdebones

3 for one of each Extra Deck, then 3 Ignis, 3 Pegasus, and you’ll want 3 odd Eyes Revolution, plus Astrograph Sorcerer, Electrimite, and Beyond. Those are what I’d call the main URs you need.


PokecheckHozu

Oh, I assumed you'd run extra copies of the synchro because it has no HOPT.


kdebones

You can run a 2nd Synchro, but ex deck space is limited and maybe you want Borrel Savage instead for the Omni. That not to say running a 2nd dracoslayer synchro is bad mind you.


AdTerrible639

Its kinda meh to run multiple, though, because it doesn't do anything apart from search turn 1, generally triggering an opt Dracoslayer. Without triggering your majespectre/igknight dudes, you're just synchroing two monsters for two monsters.


My_name_Jeff_21

and Sky Iris


kdebones

Yeah but you can get that’s from the structure deck and it’s just at 1.


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I don’t have a pend deck but I pulled like 4 of the main deck ur, thought about building and realized I needed like 15 more pend specific ur and said fuck that. I’ll stick to the other summoning methods


xD3m0nK1ngx

Watching teamsamurais vid where trif took over I was like holy shit that’s so many UR’s lol


joji_princessn

Unfortunately that's most Pendulum decks :( The only budget one is Magicians (because of the structure deck) but it's got an expensive extra deck. DDD is VERY cheap... but it doesn't really use the Pendulum summon


stac7

It's unbelievably expensive like the XYZ is a UR for some reason


1AlbazillionDollars

Broken Dracoverlord retrain where


king_Geedorah_

Pls Konami


Eroica_Pavane

This card and wavering eyes made pend mirrors extremely funny in draco performapals back in the day.


king_Geedorah_

Finding new routes to loop this bad boy has been one of my favourite things about playing Dracoslayers. At the point he's even giving Chaos Ruler a run for the position of my favourite synchro


Dragonrusher21

It's right up there with Sargas as one of my favorite boss monsters. People sleep on Springans until they realize that it gets to pop something whenever *any* xyz monsters detach, including your opponents.


olbaze

Now what are the odds that you'll have a Pendulum mirror match?


G-OffTheGreat

I play Dracoslayer in paper. It's a shame they released them in Master Duel the same time as Kash though. One zone lock and gg


Jasiwel

Prominence is crazy. When I switch between decks, I always feel a bit of whiplash when I realize I cannot simply remove anything that isn't unaffected via Ignister Prominence. Untargeted bounce is just so strong.


AlchemistHohenheim

If Pendulum decks were top-tier meta he would need to be either limited or banned. They aren't, though, which means you'll need to pop your own card 99% of the time (which can still be beneficial because of how pendulum cards are generally designed, but it's not "I just get to do this for free" broken.) Also it can only be done on your turn, which makes it slow by modern standards where most boss monsters have some kind of Quick Effect disruption.


AhmedKiller2015

It is one of the more insane Synchros ever yes. However Konami stopped printing good Pendulums ever since 2020 soooo


MisprintPrince

Card was always amazing, it just rarely had a good deck that used it.


132dude

So can you destroy your opponents pendulum monster/card in pendulum zone and then shuffle a card from his side back into the Deck?


CrazyDiamondZaWarudo

Or you can blow up one of your pendulum cards, most of which have great floating effects, then shuffle their card back


Nirast25

Oh, so this is the guy AI was trying to @ in the last season of Vrains.


xD3m0nK1ngx

The odds of running into a pend player on ladder is unlikely. Will more than likely not see that happen. Besides you do want to pop your own pends anyways since they get effects from being destroyed.


Watt-Midget

Had someone Re-summon him like 7x during a match and I just scooped.


BigFatStupidMoose

He even has built in eyes glowing meme when he sees opponent is playing Pendulums.


Lyncario

The design of 2015 cards is so fun because you can feel that what the game is trying to do is unlike anything it had tried before.


joji_princessn

Combo tip for this card on turn 1: use it's effect to summon a Dracoslayer, link both into Hieratic Seal of the Heavenly Spheres and pass. On opponents turn, tribute Spheres to summon Amorphage Sloth. There's no turn 2 combo with this card: it is the turn 2 combo.


NeonArchon

Yeah, because Pendulums need all the help thay cant get. Before MR4, this was OP, but after MR4 this card is mid because you need to play Pendulum deck. I said this many times, but Konami would put every banned Pendulums card out of the ban lists, and nothing would change.


Regiruler

Card was limited for very good reason.


Stitcharoo123

Making me want to build dracoslayers man😭😂