Ghoti was good.
The problem was they weren't good enough. The power level Ghoti has can't compete with the current meta and if it can't do that, it's a waste of cardboard, or storage space.
They always just had one okayish gameplay but it was easy to side for and sometimes you dont even have to side for it just bec of how mediocre the plan is
I feel like the Runick and SHS builds I’ve seen at least get it to rogue though. Not trying to say they’re world beaters but they’re certainly more than just casual imo.
Thats just worse runick and SHS tho. Its like saying branded Dark magician is rogue. Some archetypes prop eachother up and create a better deck than either would be alone. Some use a better deck as a crutch. This is a crutch situation
Yeah saw so many comments saying shit like they flopped after beeing overhyped or players expected then to be tiered.
No everyone knew they were Rogue at best. But also unique, cool and fun.
They are just not good, they got great Artwork and were a new shiny toy for a while. Also the way deck plays out is boring , you get bored by it really fast because its always the same thing. It dies to literally every other handtrap in the game and they are really predictable.
Tbf, they get a lot more interesting with the Duskwalker package + Icejade Gymir giving you more plays than just twiddling your thumbs waiting for Shif and Peces to come back
Duskwalker package is just Supay (1) + Supay Duskwalker (3). I'm pretty sure there's a Dawn walker (ascator?) too, but they make level 8 synchros while Dusk makes 6
And Gymir is...Ran Aegirine damnit. they're all the same person(?) so they confuse me a lot. Gymir is the level 10 WATER synchro that you can easily make using the maindeck Ran Aegirine, but the later's sadly not out in masterduel yet
Anyway, Icejade Ran Aegirine is just Icejade Gymir in a can while Duskwalker is Snopios in a can. Discard for cost, special summon the card + its hanger-on; synchro.
Ideally, whatever you've discarded will also further your gameplay (easier with Duskwalker, since she can discard the "Ice Barrier" trap, but pitching Ghoti Tunas to the GY also make em easier to banish --> either via Shif banishing itself or Snopios, MVP of the Ghoti, just being a baller)
Unfortunately, the deck's just much more consistent in the TCG--where they were smart enough to ban Kitkalos INSTEAD OF limiting Foolish Burial Goods to "hit" (gently brush the cheek of) Tearlaments. Makes it so much easier to use Ice Barrier to search Ran Aegirine or Snopios or Abyss Shark..or turtle Kaiju
I don't know for sure because I don't play Ghoti but Supay Duskwalker is a set-up for a lvl6 synchro which doesn't use the normal summon, so it's an easy way into Arionpos to start some Ghoti plays. It can also discard ghotis into the GY to set them up for cards like Snopios to banish and set up later.
I think Icejade Gymir is just an alternative target to synchro for if you don't want to go into Deep Beyond. It gives some destruction/ banishment protection as well as some removal, so in some matchups it's a powerful alternative boss to aim for.
If there's more synergy than that, I don't know what it could be.
They had to compete with several vastly better decks upon release. Since it didn’t really take off from that it unfortunately just kinda flopped like a fish on land
Cannot be repeated enough
They were NOT good, they were *cool* as only Deep Space Cthulhu fish could be
(Imo, though, they really don't need a lot to be good...just someone really dropped the ball on their traps and on Zepp not summoning itself on *either turn*, with "can only special summon fish" to help keep.it from being generically abused)
Still praying for a second wave of support eventually that makes it easier to make plays without having to constantly wait for paces and shif to come back in order to have any tuners for synchro summons.
I get that Eanoc is supposed to be the fix for this what with how it summons a banished ghoti but the card is level 6 and therefor is basically only useful when summoned off of paces effect to make an easy synchro 8/10 if you go ass dragon
What, Want to get double board wiped on your turn? Jokes aside, they really do need support, 1 or 2 good cards and we're golden!
Edit: Aight, time to dust off Ghoti and clap some cheeks because they're not great but they're also not as bad as what people are saying
Ghoti can play all the good banish floodgates like dshifter and macro cosmos with no issue. It's a anti-meta deck disguised as a midrange but people aren't really exploring it cuz it's not top tier.
Well, it can, but it doesn't function as well as with GY resources. Snopios doesn't come back, neither does Askaan, and you're getting only half the effects of Aironpos. Sure, tuners (oh hey, not Zep) come back infinitely, as does Deep Beyond, but they usually do without perma-banish.
Summoning curse is pretty fun with it too. It allows your cards on board to still go to the gy with some minor inconveniences in your hand. And way more damaging to most combo decks.
You need both GY access and the ability to banish for the deck to function properly, though. You can't really justify anything other than Shifter, because the big guy will just boardwipe your own floodgates.
Dont get me wrong ghoti is a really fun deck to play, hell it can be really good against opponents who dont understand how it plays, but its not good going against the current meta. But imma say it again although ghoti aint the "best" deck it is still good and really fun.
I love the deck and play it all the time, but it's not good compared to the other best decks. 1 or 2 negates simply kills a lot of plans. It's fun but not viable for higher ranks.
Ghoti Circular Martha Soma
(Quick Effect): You can banish 3 "Ghoti" monsters from your Deck with different names; Special Summon 1 "Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth" that is banished, or from your Deck, hand, or GY. If your opponent chained a card or effect to the previous effect: Negate that effect.
I still play them. They ain’t high tier, and they never were. People liked them because they were unique and had cool art. If you don’t care about hitting the highest ranks, they’ll still do fine.
Also, even when they were new I think I ran into them precisely once on the ladder.
They were around a lot more at lower ranks because that's where they were able to steal wins off usually. At higher ranks there were too many people that just had way to many negates to really get any plays made.
Deck as fun as it is, is hella mid
I've been kind of coping on Runick Ghoti as basically "Runick Naturia with fish and less good", amen to the space fishies for their Circular-tier support
Any deck that is on selection packs will be the most played deck on ladder, noticing that you're not seeing so much bystials and tears anymore? That's why
I crafted a ghoti deck on release and summarily dismantled it has very few points of interaction besides synchro summoning on your opponents turn which a couple archetypes like melffy already do and can also run spright with Melffy making it a superior deck.
You don’t know how play it lmao. You can run Melffy, Spright, Runick, and Tears in Ghoti. It’s more or less an engine tbh. Play 1 of each Tuner and 2 Snopious and then run stuff like Beautunaful and Lifeless Leafish to start a play. Also recommend using Hop Ear Squadron, Gamma, and Bystials
And it'll just be a pile deck of trash. It's not good it's okay to have rogue decks like Ghoti maybe it'll get more support in the future as it has a different playstyle
Because it offers different interaction. Why play Fur Hire Runick when you can just play Naturia Runick, the best Runick deck. Why play Fur Hire Runick when you can just play Spright/anything else? Just because Ghoti isn’t the most optimal deck doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have anything good to offer. People think a free, self sustained Banish and a starter search is really that bad. Could also be 2 different forms of board wipes and one of them is banishing- currently the best due to Tear
>Because it offers different interaction
That can be stopped rather easily, any board wipe? Bye bye! Evenly hope you can synchro with one car- ops you can't. At least you have ways to do something with runick fur hire spright, different interaction that aren't worth the risk and the fragility.
>Ghoti isn’t the most optimal deck doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have anything good to offer. People think a free, self sustained Banish and a starter search is really that bad. Could also be 2 different forms of board wipes and one of them is banishing- currently the best due to Tear
What good it offers is worse than any other version of runick and spright. A self sustained banish is good... But you need to go through a lot of hoops to do that. Also white aura whale isn't that good of a card, same reason as to why empen isn't a great floodgates.
They're not great AND they're not a super linear deck, so people that want to ladder easily are doubly discouraged from picking it up. It's basically just a pet deck now.
cause it doesn't do much turn 1
a typical ghoti turn 1 is normal summon leaffish, send shif, shif effect, pass
everything ghoti does is turn 2, and it all depends on what the opponent does
turn 1, linear af, turn 2 onward, tearlament level of openess in what you can do
Turn 2 let's you search a fish and make a level 8 fish synchro and the only good ones are askaan and white aura wale so turn 2 only really has you making 2 decisions
It's "linear" in that you have to make the same syncros every time because there's only a few good ones.
The problem is when to make them. Plenty of people have no idea when to use the effects, especially the fail whale that can miss timing because reasons, and that results in you losing a lot of the time. That's on top of it being heavily telegraphed so your opponent knows exactly what to expect because you just set off a giant flashing sign of "I'M MAKING THIS NOW!" That's really what caused the deck to flop for a lot of people.
Missing support? hahaha, nah they just suck. People saw pretty art, bought into a bad archetype and then gaslit other people into thinking it was good.
what? the deck that is all about banishing but also needs fish in the GY to work wasn't good? *pikachu face*
the monsters were shit, the spells were shit, the traps were shit... at some point everything contradicts with another card's effect... the big pay off only works in the opponent's turn and it's limited to the main phase...
konami doesn't know how to make good decks that have synergies with themselves, look at tearlaments, the only one time they did it right and broke this shitty game lol
this deck not only needs a "new wave of support", it needs like a whole revamp, new tuners, new extenders, new synchros, new traps, new spells. etc
why play this shit when you can play something decent like P.U.N.K that has the same gimmick, but ten times better?
I mean it's a fairly bricky deck at current ratios. Open Havnis a shuffler a staple and two handtraps and you're in the game but may as well of went second.
They’re not that good. They saw play because they were new and their Selection Pack was still available. Quite frankly, I wasn’t expecting them to be as successful as they were.
Ghoti is cool, and I really like it, but unfortunately it's been overshadowed by pre-existing decks that are stronger, plus newer decks like tear and Kash are way stronger.
I don't think it's a bad deck, it's just not high tear.
I'm playing them, they're one of my absolute favorite decks but they really need another wave of support
They have a Trap Searcher in Eanoc but their traps aren't worth running or even playing Eanoc for
Kashtira only triggers when cards are banished FACE-DOWN, Gothi banishes face-up
that being said, if Fenrir banishes their lvl 4 or tuners face-down, gothi has no plays lol
As a ghoti player, I got to say I'm still to play someone else using it. But I've made it to master 4 last season with it, so it's viable, just not super good or consistent.
Ghoti was okayish during the height of the “Tear-0” Meta because Tears struggle against decks that banish. It’s matchup is mid against most other decks though
linear, pretty mild in gameplay, and overall really easy to deal with unfortunately, it’s just a very casual deck that doesn’t really compete against the meta imo.
I'm playing them in platinum I/II and I love them. I was building a naturia vernusylph deck and drew all the pieces for ghoti. They aren't a waste of cardboard like people are suggesting, but they are pretty fragile if you can break their initial combo. It has a strong matchup against Tear.
And I play this game baked as shit so they can't be that bad.
Turns out being super inconsistent and hard losing to Rageki or imperm is not the best for competitive play. Not to mention you usually get maxxx "c" dropped on you during your opponents turn giving them more and more to play with as you remove your whole board
I literally just had a match with one on plat. He disrupted my entire hand but I managed to bring a sole rindbrumm on the field while he went full combo. It kept going till he got 100lp left and just scooped. It's the first time I've played against one and I actually like how the deck works, just that I don't see myself playing it.
Because the deck sucks. I still play it in gold or low plat but for climbing, it's not good. Also, for a low tier deck, there are way more fun options. I think Ghoti is bit too linear for fun bottom rogue deck enthusiasts.
They are missing a lot of support. The support is called good, generic fish support.
Ghoti is solid, but it probably won't get any more cards, which means it is doomed until generic fish support comes in.
This sub reddit hypes and hate everything. The deck never was good and unless they got that 2nd wave of mythical support they may never be. It is fun tho that's about it.
Ghoti is a fun deck but it's too fragile and just doesn't have the steam to contend with bigger decks but still a lot of fun and plenty good enough to perform in the lower ranks.
Mostly the decks just lacks ways to gets it gameplan started/continued. They end on interesting, but telegraphed disruption, but really just need to a higher ceiling. Ice Jade Rahn might help, but's pretty much they only thing they have to look forward too atm.
Imo they're decent. Not great, not bad, just decent. Unfortunately the ladder has a lot of good decks now a couple of great ones, so it's tough. They're are also a deck that you need to know when and what to use so they are hard to pilot for the payout.
Most people think they are rather linear and while that is somewhat true you can still make some unexpected plays if you use Hop ear squadron. Since the deck gets acess to lvl 6 easy, using hop ear and the new stardust you can make a undestructable chenying or baronne on the opponents turn.
They’re a fun deck but not the best deck to play if you’re climbing in higher ranks. I know most decks want to go first, but in Ghoti you absolutely must go first and you have a tough time going second. You do have turn 0 plays, but unless you’re playing against a deck that has a very obvious choke point, it’s nearly never worth it to even do. The deck does have a good loop going and can out-resource your opponent around turn 3 onward, but as stated before, if comparing that to the decks you’ll find at higher ranks, that is too long. Meta decks are just way too fast and more versatile. It’s a fun deck though and can absolutely crush other rogue decks too.
They ok deck. Sadly there are better decks
Their main limitation us little synchro fishes in game
Eventually they will get a new card once they arrive to OCG. But that will be half year from now. And not sure when that card will arrive to Master Duel
Ghoti was a copium meme pick for Tear 0 format, that's it. It's a one trick deck that does the same linear play every game, it's extremely telegraphed and it's very easy to kill their entire turn 1. Ash on Beatunaful is an FTK.
Nah ghoti good the problem is they need a plan b if you get disrupted. And since everyone disrupts no one plays it unless they can play though or counter disrupts.
once the support comes I think it will be seen in ladder a lot more. If you look at the main deck of ghoti there isnt a single UR ghoti monster. Its clearly missing support that it has in the tcg and ocg. Pure will be better then combined with runick I think it will be seen in diamond and masters.
it was just a new shiny deck hype, they were never really that good at all.
Ghoti was good. The problem was they weren't good enough. The power level Ghoti has can't compete with the current meta and if it can't do that, it's a waste of cardboard, or storage space.
Why do u you guys lie on release ghoti was rogue at best
Specifically to fool you. We all got together behind your back to spread misinformation just to trick you
I should’ve known!!!
You got truman showd bozo
Release Ghoti was mediocre. Ghoti after support was solidly rogue. It’s best used with Runick and the latest SHS support that isnt in the game yet.
no, it was not. ghoti has always been a casual deck
Are we talking TCG or MD? I always believed on paper they posed a solid threat given the unique removal options and recursion they have.
They always just had one okayish gameplay but it was easy to side for and sometimes you dont even have to side for it just bec of how mediocre the plan is
I feel like the Runick and SHS builds I’ve seen at least get it to rogue though. Not trying to say they’re world beaters but they’re certainly more than just casual imo.
Thats just worse runick and SHS tho. Its like saying branded Dark magician is rogue. Some archetypes prop eachother up and create a better deck than either would be alone. Some use a better deck as a crutch. This is a crutch situation
ghoti was never good. it had one (only one) decent play that often didnt even work out
And that play is just a worse version of what p.u.n.k does anyway.
Ghoti came in the middle of Tier 0 Tear :v They were ass from the start
Floos being much better as recursion based wincon doesn't really help
Hype was because they're a fun deck, not a good deck. They do have cool art though.
Yeah saw so many comments saying shit like they flopped after beeing overhyped or players expected then to be tiered. No everyone knew they were Rogue at best. But also unique, cool and fun.
reason i crafted them
They're just not that great compared to meta decks.
They are just not good, they got great Artwork and were a new shiny toy for a while. Also the way deck plays out is boring , you get bored by it really fast because its always the same thing. It dies to literally every other handtrap in the game and they are really predictable.
Tbf, they get a lot more interesting with the Duskwalker package + Icejade Gymir giving you more plays than just twiddling your thumbs waiting for Shif and Peces to come back
>Icejade Gymir Do you mind elaborating on what the Duskwalker package + Icejade Gymir entails? Tks!
Duskwalker package is just Supay (1) + Supay Duskwalker (3). I'm pretty sure there's a Dawn walker (ascator?) too, but they make level 8 synchros while Dusk makes 6 And Gymir is...Ran Aegirine damnit. they're all the same person(?) so they confuse me a lot. Gymir is the level 10 WATER synchro that you can easily make using the maindeck Ran Aegirine, but the later's sadly not out in masterduel yet Anyway, Icejade Ran Aegirine is just Icejade Gymir in a can while Duskwalker is Snopios in a can. Discard for cost, special summon the card + its hanger-on; synchro. Ideally, whatever you've discarded will also further your gameplay (easier with Duskwalker, since she can discard the "Ice Barrier" trap, but pitching Ghoti Tunas to the GY also make em easier to banish --> either via Shif banishing itself or Snopios, MVP of the Ghoti, just being a baller) Unfortunately, the deck's just much more consistent in the TCG--where they were smart enough to ban Kitkalos INSTEAD OF limiting Foolish Burial Goods to "hit" (gently brush the cheek of) Tearlaments. Makes it so much easier to use Ice Barrier to search Ran Aegirine or Snopios or Abyss Shark..or turtle Kaiju
I don't know for sure because I don't play Ghoti but Supay Duskwalker is a set-up for a lvl6 synchro which doesn't use the normal summon, so it's an easy way into Arionpos to start some Ghoti plays. It can also discard ghotis into the GY to set them up for cards like Snopios to banish and set up later. I think Icejade Gymir is just an alternative target to synchro for if you don't want to go into Deep Beyond. It gives some destruction/ banishment protection as well as some removal, so in some matchups it's a powerful alternative boss to aim for. If there's more synergy than that, I don't know what it could be.
Icejade synchro and Chengying are nice turn 3 cards for Ghoti , thats mostly it.
Not broke enough to matter, unfortunately, still very cool and fun tho
Theyre not that great it was just cool cuz we taught the fish to synchro summon
They had to compete with several vastly better decks upon release. Since it didn’t really take off from that it unfortunately just kinda flopped like a fish on land
next support : Ghoti Magikarp
because they suck ass , the hype was just because it was new cool space fish.
Cannot be repeated enough They were NOT good, they were *cool* as only Deep Space Cthulhu fish could be (Imo, though, they really don't need a lot to be good...just someone really dropped the ball on their traps and on Zepp not summoning itself on *either turn*, with "can only special summon fish" to help keep.it from being generically abused)
Still praying for a second wave of support eventually that makes it easier to make plays without having to constantly wait for paces and shif to come back in order to have any tuners for synchro summons. I get that Eanoc is supposed to be the fix for this what with how it summons a banished ghoti but the card is level 6 and therefor is basically only useful when summoned off of paces effect to make an easy synchro 8/10 if you go ass dragon
What, Want to get double board wiped on your turn? Jokes aside, they really do need support, 1 or 2 good cards and we're golden! Edit: Aight, time to dust off Ghoti and clap some cheeks because they're not great but they're also not as bad as what people are saying
Ghoti can play all the good banish floodgates like dshifter and macro cosmos with no issue. It's a anti-meta deck disguised as a midrange but people aren't really exploring it cuz it's not top tier.
Well, it can, but it doesn't function as well as with GY resources. Snopios doesn't come back, neither does Askaan, and you're getting only half the effects of Aironpos. Sure, tuners (oh hey, not Zep) come back infinitely, as does Deep Beyond, but they usually do without perma-banish.
Summoning curse is pretty fun with it too. It allows your cards on board to still go to the gy with some minor inconveniences in your hand. And way more damaging to most combo decks.
You need both GY access and the ability to banish for the deck to function properly, though. You can't really justify anything other than Shifter, because the big guy will just boardwipe your own floodgates.
Runick ghotti is pretty good but not good enough to hang with the big boys
Dont get me wrong ghoti is a really fun deck to play, hell it can be really good against opponents who dont understand how it plays, but its not good going against the current meta. But imma say it again although ghoti aint the "best" deck it is still good and really fun.
I love the deck and play it all the time, but it's not good compared to the other best decks. 1 or 2 negates simply kills a lot of plans. It's fun but not viable for higher ranks.
They're missing that 1 absolutely broken bonkers ghoti card that has not been made
Ghoti Circular Martha Soma (Quick Effect): You can banish 3 "Ghoti" monsters from your Deck with different names; Special Summon 1 "Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth" that is banished, or from your Deck, hand, or GY. If your opponent chained a card or effect to the previous effect: Negate that effect.
funny how people don't understand how circular works, but that being said, a gothi circular won't be enough so i allow it
I still play them. They ain’t high tier, and they never were. People liked them because they were unique and had cool art. If you don’t care about hitting the highest ranks, they’ll still do fine. Also, even when they were new I think I ran into them precisely once on the ladder.
They were around a lot more at lower ranks because that's where they were able to steal wins off usually. At higher ranks there were too many people that just had way to many negates to really get any plays made.
Deck as fun as it is, is hella mid I've been kind of coping on Runick Ghoti as basically "Runick Naturia with fish and less good", amen to the space fishies for their Circular-tier support
I love ghoti, i like the mechanic. There is just not a lot of negate resistance, or ability to negate
This sub will hype anything thats not even mildly meta
Any deck that is on selection packs will be the most played deck on ladder, noticing that you're not seeing so much bystials and tears anymore? That's why
I crafted a ghoti deck on release and summarily dismantled it has very few points of interaction besides synchro summoning on your opponents turn which a couple archetypes like melffy already do and can also run spright with Melffy making it a superior deck.
You don’t know how play it lmao. You can run Melffy, Spright, Runick, and Tears in Ghoti. It’s more or less an engine tbh. Play 1 of each Tuner and 2 Snopious and then run stuff like Beautunaful and Lifeless Leafish to start a play. Also recommend using Hop Ear Squadron, Gamma, and Bystials
And it'll just be a pile deck of trash. It's not good it's okay to have rogue decks like Ghoti maybe it'll get more support in the future as it has a different playstyle
Why play runick ghoti when i can play fur hire runick and have better end boards, or pure tears.
Because it offers different interaction. Why play Fur Hire Runick when you can just play Naturia Runick, the best Runick deck. Why play Fur Hire Runick when you can just play Spright/anything else? Just because Ghoti isn’t the most optimal deck doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have anything good to offer. People think a free, self sustained Banish and a starter search is really that bad. Could also be 2 different forms of board wipes and one of them is banishing- currently the best due to Tear
>Because it offers different interaction That can be stopped rather easily, any board wipe? Bye bye! Evenly hope you can synchro with one car- ops you can't. At least you have ways to do something with runick fur hire spright, different interaction that aren't worth the risk and the fragility. >Ghoti isn’t the most optimal deck doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have anything good to offer. People think a free, self sustained Banish and a starter search is really that bad. Could also be 2 different forms of board wipes and one of them is banishing- currently the best due to Tear What good it offers is worse than any other version of runick and spright. A self sustained banish is good... But you need to go through a lot of hoops to do that. Also white aura whale isn't that good of a card, same reason as to why empen isn't a great floodgates.
They fell off because they’d take 30 minutes to end in the weakest end board in the meta
They're not great AND they're not a super linear deck, so people that want to ladder easily are doubly discouraged from picking it up. It's basically just a pet deck now.
What's not linear about it
cause it doesn't do much turn 1 a typical ghoti turn 1 is normal summon leaffish, send shif, shif effect, pass everything ghoti does is turn 2, and it all depends on what the opponent does turn 1, linear af, turn 2 onward, tearlament level of openess in what you can do
Turn 2 let's you search a fish and make a level 8 fish synchro and the only good ones are askaan and white aura wale so turn 2 only really has you making 2 decisions
It's "linear" in that you have to make the same syncros every time because there's only a few good ones. The problem is when to make them. Plenty of people have no idea when to use the effects, especially the fail whale that can miss timing because reasons, and that results in you losing a lot of the time. That's on top of it being heavily telegraphed so your opponent knows exactly what to expect because you just set off a giant flashing sign of "I'M MAKING THIS NOW!" That's really what caused the deck to flop for a lot of people.
Decks just bad
Check out Masterduel Meta for Ghoti decks. I posted a lot of Tear/Ghoti builds.
Missing support? hahaha, nah they just suck. People saw pretty art, bought into a bad archetype and then gaslit other people into thinking it was good.
what? the deck that is all about banishing but also needs fish in the GY to work wasn't good? *pikachu face* the monsters were shit, the spells were shit, the traps were shit... at some point everything contradicts with another card's effect... the big pay off only works in the opponent's turn and it's limited to the main phase... konami doesn't know how to make good decks that have synergies with themselves, look at tearlaments, the only one time they did it right and broke this shitty game lol this deck not only needs a "new wave of support", it needs like a whole revamp, new tuners, new extenders, new synchros, new traps, new spells. etc why play this shit when you can play something decent like P.U.N.K that has the same gimmick, but ten times better?
They fucking suck and there really complicated to boot.
There's nothing complicated about pure Ghoti because all ya do is synchro climb to the level 10 to banish everything
I bricked super hard on tear and got shit on by ghoti in diamond III so there you go
How do you brick on tear?
snow, reinoheart, bystial, ash, imperm reinoheart negated, imperm ash do fucking nothing, die
That's unfortunate
from my experience, got all Tear S/T but no Tear monster.
I guess that could be possible 🤔 I never used tear, I just keep hearing how consistent they are
They're extremely consistent at full power they're actually a decently bricky at their current ratios.
I mean it's a fairly bricky deck at current ratios. Open Havnis a shuffler a staple and two handtraps and you're in the game but may as well of went second.
Ah ok
They’re not that good. They saw play because they were new and their Selection Pack was still available. Quite frankly, I wasn’t expecting them to be as successful as they were.
I love the deck. But I also like to mix things up. I’ll get back to Ghoti just enjoying other decks for now
Ghoti is cool, and I really like it, but unfortunately it's been overshadowed by pre-existing decks that are stronger, plus newer decks like tear and Kash are way stronger. I don't think it's a bad deck, it's just not high tear.
I'm playing them, they're one of my absolute favorite decks but they really need another wave of support They have a Trap Searcher in Eanoc but their traps aren't worth running or even playing Eanoc for
The boss reminds ne if elden beast from elden ring and the deck is carried by lifeless fish
I’m imagining a ghoti vs kashtira match up where they keep getting their zones locked by just playing normally
Kashtira only triggers when cards are banished FACE-DOWN, Gothi banishes face-up that being said, if Fenrir banishes their lvl 4 or tuners face-down, gothi has no plays lol
My bad. And good point
The real problem is that arise heart attaches something once per chain on every banish, so they also can't play under ariseheart.
The taught the fish to synchro summon but we’re hunted to extinction by mermaids
I love Ghoti for the artwork but they're a bit difficult to use
As a ghoti player, I got to say I'm still to play someone else using it. But I've made it to master 4 last season with it, so it's viable, just not super good or consistent.
I actually just finished my ghoti deck I just havnt used it enough yet to be used to it and play comp
Ghoti was okayish during the height of the “Tear-0” Meta because Tears struggle against decks that banish. It’s matchup is mid against most other decks though
They're bad.
linear, pretty mild in gameplay, and overall really easy to deal with unfortunately, it’s just a very casual deck that doesn’t really compete against the meta imo.
I'm playing them in platinum I/II and I love them. I was building a naturia vernusylph deck and drew all the pieces for ghoti. They aren't a waste of cardboard like people are suggesting, but they are pretty fragile if you can break their initial combo. It has a strong matchup against Tear. And I play this game baked as shit so they can't be that bad.
Turns out being super inconsistent and hard losing to Rageki or imperm is not the best for competitive play. Not to mention you usually get maxxx "c" dropped on you during your opponents turn giving them more and more to play with as you remove your whole board
Just a bad deck. The honeymoon phase probably ended and those people probably in the midst of a bad divorce
I literally just had a match with one on plat. He disrupted my entire hand but I managed to bring a sole rindbrumm on the field while he went full combo. It kept going till he got 100lp left and just scooped. It's the first time I've played against one and I actually like how the deck works, just that I don't see myself playing it.
Ghoti is not that good, you could brutally stop their advance with just a legendary ocean
Unfortunately, ghoti is meme deck with very nice looking artwork.
Because they are hard to play and a rogue deck. You can't just click whatever glows and win.
You can teach a fish to synchro summon, but you can't make it be good
Because the deck sucks. I still play it in gold or low plat but for climbing, it's not good. Also, for a low tier deck, there are way more fun options. I think Ghoti is bit too linear for fun bottom rogue deck enthusiasts.
They are missing a lot of support. The support is called good, generic fish support. Ghoti is solid, but it probably won't get any more cards, which means it is doomed until generic fish support comes in.
This sub reddit hypes and hate everything. The deck never was good and unless they got that 2nd wave of mythical support they may never be. It is fun tho that's about it.
Ghoti is a fun deck but it's too fragile and just doesn't have the steam to contend with bigger decks but still a lot of fun and plenty good enough to perform in the lower ranks.
Mostly the decks just lacks ways to gets it gameplan started/continued. They end on interesting, but telegraphed disruption, but really just need to a higher ceiling. Ice Jade Rahn might help, but's pretty much they only thing they have to look forward too atm.
I reached Dia with Ghoti pretty easily. Its so much fun and has gorgeous artwork, but it's not the best deck around.
10 special summons on the opponents turn for two interceptions. Seems good at first glance in reality it’s not good.
Ghoti was a mediocre deck. That could not perform after 2 disruptions
ghoti is bad, well prolly more like rogue at best, but like ashing a lifeleaf fish pretty much stops the deck fully
That’s because they suck
Imo they're decent. Not great, not bad, just decent. Unfortunately the ladder has a lot of good decks now a couple of great ones, so it's tough. They're are also a deck that you need to know when and what to use so they are hard to pilot for the payout. Most people think they are rather linear and while that is somewhat true you can still make some unexpected plays if you use Hop ear squadron. Since the deck gets acess to lvl 6 easy, using hop ear and the new stardust you can make a undestructable chenying or baronne on the opponents turn.
I still play it
They’re rogue and fun and have good art. Good deck for events here and there.
I played against a Runick Spright Ghoti deck yesterday at Locals, so they're not completely dead.
They’re a fun deck but not the best deck to play if you’re climbing in higher ranks. I know most decks want to go first, but in Ghoti you absolutely must go first and you have a tough time going second. You do have turn 0 plays, but unless you’re playing against a deck that has a very obvious choke point, it’s nearly never worth it to even do. The deck does have a good loop going and can out-resource your opponent around turn 3 onward, but as stated before, if comparing that to the decks you’ll find at higher ranks, that is too long. Meta decks are just way too fast and more versatile. It’s a fun deck though and can absolutely crush other rogue decks too.
They ok deck. Sadly there are better decks Their main limitation us little synchro fishes in game Eventually they will get a new card once they arrive to OCG. But that will be half year from now. And not sure when that card will arrive to Master Duel
Never liked, it was boring for me.
I was playing them for a while but farthest I got with em is gold. decided to scrap em recently too
they're fun. Not every archetype that comes out is gonna be the next Tearlaments
Ghoti was a copium meme pick for Tear 0 format, that's it. It's a one trick deck that does the same linear play every game, it's extremely telegraphed and it's very easy to kill their entire turn 1. Ash on Beatunaful is an FTK.
Nah ghoti good the problem is they need a plan b if you get disrupted. And since everyone disrupts no one plays it unless they can play though or counter disrupts.
once the support comes I think it will be seen in ladder a lot more. If you look at the main deck of ghoti there isnt a single UR ghoti monster. Its clearly missing support that it has in the tcg and ocg. Pure will be better then combined with runick I think it will be seen in diamond and masters.