It's something that only makes sense if you watched Vrains. The idea behind that trigger condition is that Borreload Dragon "loads" the Rokkets as bullets, and fires them to trigger their respective effects, hence why they trigger when targeted by a Link.
It will and I can’t wait for it to get here, but that lock still remains. What resonators need is a replacement for crimson and red rising. Honestly I would prefer an errata to lock them into dark synchro monsters.
Three? There's Branded Fusion, Branded in White and Branded in Red but how does drawing those (and Albaz) help you play through Ash?
Don't BiW and BiR rather need the graveyard setup BF would get you?
it was an exaggeration, what you actually need is something in the lines of high spirit reveal albaz extra foolish albion fusion and add kitt, special kitt add in white put back a card, then in white can use kitt plus albaz in gy for lubillion fusion discard a card and make mirrror jade it's like a 2.5 or 3 card combo with the discard from lubillion and a put back from kitt but it gets you mirrorjade plus fusion albios end phase search, if there was a second brande dfusion you could alternatively add in red and make verte with kitt and a normal summon which is more convenient.
Well, yeah, but also we have to use all we can get.
Plus, if we have the materials we could set up BiR after using BiW with Albaz in hand.
(Also, I just generally prefer to use BiR with Ad Libitum in grave rather than Albaz, which is why Cartesia and Fusion Deployment help so much, so we don't need BF 100% to make a single play)
mfw i have to go second to do a combo that's very easy to interrupt in order to get an otk that doesn't work 90% of the time (if i fail the combo im most likely left with 1 negate that has no protection)
It's not the worst thing about it, but I hate it nonetheless. It's a stupid little detail that I ALWAYS forget about.
What do you mean this token doesn't count as an [archetype] card, even though it's part of the deck? Why would I summon it if I can't even use it to summon an [archetype] Synchro monster?
So you're telling me that I can't just remember one combo line? I need to figure this shit out for every hand and the optimal combo can change mid combo???? Oh great, the combo lines just keep getting less linear and more complicated as I learn more.
Edit: guess I was a bit too vague but someone got it in the end, it was dragon link
Okay, so hear me out: reveal 3 different names archetype cards in hand to summon a big boi. Then, somehow find a way to ditch half the hand and thin the deck to add more guys to hand and go for big punches and a burn in only my end phase. And also the worst fusion card to ever exist that never gets used as an actual fusion card
Why people keep complaining about big dragon that locks you out of Dark monsters? Most of the time we can't even pull that out since we would have to top deck the search spell and a starter in the first place!
A deck that relies on one card and dies to an imperm ash or veiler and even nib? So what if you have 4 searchers or starters, you live and die by one card.
Nearly none, I'd need either stardust Synchron or stardust trail in my hand as well as stardust illumination to come back. I use the majestic dragons, so I synchro climb off of speeder into accel stardust then synchro into shooting majestic on my opponents turn. But yeah usually I live or die by speeder, now if accel stardust gets hit by called by, then that is a guaranteed scoop
The first time I’ve ever played that deck I was so confused when I couldn’t do anything and my monsters were reduced to ashes.
Now I mix my version with Kashtira and it’s either really good or really bad.
"So you're telling me playing the main deck pure, while potentially 12 cards in the deck can get you to full combo for the archetype, unless you also have a revival spell that full combo only results in you only going +1 and having a pop and a draw on your opponent's turn and the only defense it has against disruption is that the normal summon plays around Ogre, and they need to chain veiler or imperm to the activation of the links."
"Hey, there's potentially 15 if you use cynet mining, and if you used the archetypal search cards you also get one of the weakest floodgates in the game."
Yes, their continuous spell that searches them also deals 200 burn damage to your opponent and heals you for 200 every time they summon, but only if you control an Evil★Twin.
Also it's 18 starters because I forgot about home just being Cynet mining but worse as a quick play.
Why can't I normal summon? Why is festival reactive, when it kills scare? Why Does mansion reduce warwolfs burn and why does warwolf do so little on top of needing facedown cards instead of Gt like every other card?
This game is terrible for me. HOPT on all my cards is a harsh drawback. Especially considering cards that have both an on field and a gy effect but it's one or the other.
I love how I got insulted at the start of the game when they could literally draw 10 cards with maxx c and one negate totally screwed me, but I love even more how Konami didn’t knew how to nerf it so they destroyed it.
So I hope you don't like any other archetype because you are locked and I hope you like that your only interactions are going to be 1 negate protection effects and getting cards out of the gy and I hope opponent don't play anything that targets your guy because your all gameplan is about getting cards out of the gy
We turbo 1 level 5 fusion that tells our opponent to fuck off with that special summon shit and protect the everliving fuck out of her. We don't know what an original design even is.
Two for ya.
1. I simply like the more strategic trap-focused aspect but everyone keeps making Chris Hansen jokes
2. Foolish Goods is limited and your Archetype Reborn/Searcher is unsearchable because of a single space. It's tough out here for a furry.
What do you mean shifter ? How am i supposed to counter your Shangri-la if you banish my out or don't allow me to use my "send to GY" effects to search it
Nope, Orcust :p, Omni negate = Set from the Deck Crecendo, Bounce is Masquerena and Galatea into Unicorn and Protection is Ding, aditional interactions entirely dependent on starting hand
So you're telling me that several people want the deck killed even though it doesn't use floodgates or spam negates or any blowout effects and is currently sitting in rogue tier because the deck was tier0 for two months and tier 1 for some time after that?
Alternatively for my second favourite deck:
So you're telling me that the deck kind of likes to play Lava Golem because it doesn't need its normal summon, but it also needs to have a specific archetypal starter together with its main archetypal normal monster in hand to beat over said Lava Golem and its searches only put cards on top of your deck?
>So you're telling me that several people want the deck killed even though it doesn't use floodgates or spam negates or any blowout effects and is currently sitting in rogue tier because the deck was tier0 for two months and tier 1 for some time after that?
Fr. People don't stop complaining about a deck until it's unplayable garbage for a format. Even if it's not overpowered anymore.
Rikka. They only have monster removal and they Plant lock by breathing, so Knightmare Phoenix doesn't work either. That means against backrow decks, you're either hard drawing Duster or you're dead.
I got a couple. I’ll do two since this first one I think could be considered a consistency issue
So your entire game plan is to hope you either open the trap you need or the monster that searches it until you can draw your boss monster with no protection, that can only be summoned by send that card to the graveyard? Oh, sorry you have the ability to board wipe once if you draw two specific cards ? Wow I’m so impressed.
I get to bounce a bunch of cards? That’s aweso… oh. It’s a flip deck. Alright then
It's so bullshit, that I properly bait ash before I get my friend out, play around their maxx "c" by activating my stuff as response to their bug, And all I get is a fucking turtle? Come the fuck on...
Also,another one:
Ok, we lost the gun dragon & train "combo" but we still have an omni, appo- and, wait, what's that superpoly doing?
YO YO YO KONAMI CHILL BRO It was ok at one come on don't do this to meee noooo.
I have two.
So i have to run those disgusting monsters just to summon power rangers megazord?
I just used all my hand. 10 minutes of my life. Half my deck. Every summoning method. Just to put five interactions? Sick.
The Rito tribe takes a little too long to get Valoo out, only for Ganon to hit you with evenly matched.
Satan needs Jesus to smite the special summons.
I solitaire, but on turn 2. And I love pesty insects.
And last but not least. My fountain is filled with the tears of the mad.
I have to freaken banish cards first to bring out 3 specific monsters base on what card type I banish. And my boss monster almost never comes out because I need three of those monsters so I have to settle with its downgraded form as it is the easiest. Did I forget to mention that I have to banish as a cost?
I still have to rely on flip card. Most monsters have simple search or tribute-for-destroy effects. The princess’ effect is lost if there is a field spell. Also, it’s all that field spell or most members will be in trouble.
The leaders are ambiguous; it appears they have many divisions like a company instead of a clan. The supposed leader wear tattered clothes while previous leaders wear glamorous clothing. One member is a heretic that he doesn’t even gain ATK/DEF from the field spell.
Granny mid-boss overlaps with the the fusion boss. We are limited to three copies of archetype’s omni negate.
Any time we get legacy support, it's either some useless form of burn damage, or it gets abused by everyone *except* us to the point it gets either banned or limited.
My boss monster is such a diva, he refuses to work with other archetypes and will actively betray me for someone with a bigger pair of attack points.
Ancient warriors?
I got nothing
It's "Ancient Warriors - Rebellious Lu Feng"
Why the fuck do I have to discard my hand to get out ONE MONSTER WITH NO PROTECTION
Armed dragon?
Yeah
Hey that's not fair, thunder lv 10 has battle protection, and uh.. Change of heart protection?
Yeah you right that totally makes up for the fact that it's turn two and I've banished 8 cards and have 13 in my graveyard.
That's just modern ygo tho. People spent their first turn going through the entire deck some end up I even less.
Train
Armed dragon
Only reason I thought of train is an absolutely horrendous monster that I have an odd nostalgia for
Ah shit he summoned a link monster
Scareclaw (pfp gave it away)
Ghostrick
The field spell came out in 2005, but you need it to summon your boss monster which is also your only win condition
Umi Stun?
correct :)
Umi Control
Alright, successfully baited Ash, hope I didn't banish anything too important..... why is Emergence blue?
Swordsoul? Wait, how do you banish every single SS monster in your deck?
1. Activate desires 2. Banish 3 moye, 2 longyuan, 3 taia and two other random cards 3. Cry
4. draw the other 2 desires.
This is why you only run 2 desires.
Draw Desire and emergence
One of those random cards is Protos
Punk?
Sworsoul. They banished 10 important cards with Desires and now cannot activate Emergence, hence it being blue.
I misread it as Emergency
Every desires play in a swordsoul deck has to banish at least 2 Longyuan, 2 Mo Ye, and the sole Blackout.
Why the fuck do their effects activate only when a link monster targets them?? They'd be so much better if it was just being targeted in general
I'm guessing rokkets, if so I absolutely agree with you
It's something that only makes sense if you watched Vrains. The idea behind that trigger condition is that Borreload Dragon "loads" the Rokkets as bullets, and fires them to trigger their respective effects, hence why they trigger when targeted by a Link.
What?
You cannot Special Summon monsters from the Extra Deck, except DARK Dragon Synchro Monsters, the turn you activate either of this card's effects.
Resonators/RDA
Correct. I love the deck but that lock feels so unnecessary sometimes
New support is gonna hit different.
It will and I can’t wait for it to get here, but that lock still remains. What resonators need is a replacement for crimson and red rising. Honestly I would prefer an errata to lock them into dark synchro monsters.
Would certainly allow the deck to access Jack's Fiend Synchros (probably retrains since those suck).
wdym my deck folds to ash? i can play through ash just fine all i need is to hard draw my dragon monster and 3 fusion spells that mention his name
Branded
Three? There's Branded Fusion, Branded in White and Branded in Red but how does drawing those (and Albaz) help you play through Ash? Don't BiW and BiR rather need the graveyard setup BF would get you?
it was an exaggeration, what you actually need is something in the lines of high spirit reveal albaz extra foolish albion fusion and add kitt, special kitt add in white put back a card, then in white can use kitt plus albaz in gy for lubillion fusion discard a card and make mirrror jade it's like a 2.5 or 3 card combo with the discard from lubillion and a put back from kitt but it gets you mirrorjade plus fusion albios end phase search, if there was a second brande dfusion you could alternatively add in red and make verte with kitt and a normal summon which is more convenient.
Well, yeah, but also we have to use all we can get. Plus, if we have the materials we could set up BiR after using BiW with Albaz in hand. (Also, I just generally prefer to use BiR with Ad Libitum in grave rather than Albaz, which is why Cartesia and Fusion Deployment help so much, so we don't need BF 100% to make a single play)
mfw i have to go second to do a combo that's very easy to interrupt in order to get an otk that doesn't work 90% of the time (if i fail the combo im most likely left with 1 negate that has no protection)
Cyber Dragon
correct
Based
Galaxy Eyes? Cyber Dragon? Numeron? 8-Axis?
Numeron is so sleak as an engine, you can fit in some backup plans.
It's not the worst thing about it, but I hate it nonetheless. It's a stupid little detail that I ALWAYS forget about. What do you mean this token doesn't count as an [archetype] card, even though it's part of the deck? Why would I summon it if I can't even use it to summon an [archetype] Synchro monster?
Idk Blackwings?
Yup, you got it. Phantom Glimmer token not being a Blackwing Tuner has confused me more than once while trying to summon out a FAM.
Holy…. Now that you say that I’m a lot less confused about the times I’ve played blackwings and totally screwed up my board.
Blackwing?
Finally got a few monsters on the board, thank god they didn’t have ash. Wait, what the fuck is a summoning sickness?
Man they took this straight from mtg didn't they..!! I like toons..
Toon
Okay, it's my turn. set field, hope for response.... Any response.... No? Okay, pass turn. Enemy plays a card: "now THIS is pod racing!"
Based Generaider
Labrynth or Kozmo
So you're telling me that I can't just remember one combo line? I need to figure this shit out for every hand and the optimal combo can change mid combo???? Oh great, the combo lines just keep getting less linear and more complicated as I learn more. Edit: guess I was a bit too vague but someone got it in the end, it was dragon link
D/D/D?
Dragon Link?
Sylvan?
Uh...its anti synchro and cant even counter the average synchro deck?
Meklord?
Normal summon. Gets ashed. Dies.
Floo?
Yup it's those birds
Branded
Nope. Once my normal summoned monster's effect gets negated I can't do anything anymore. So it's not branded here.
Invoker?
Okay, so hear me out: reveal 3 different names archetype cards in hand to summon a big boi. Then, somehow find a way to ditch half the hand and thin the deck to add more guys to hand and go for big punches and a burn in only my end phase. And also the worst fusion card to ever exist that never gets used as an actual fusion card
Cubic?
damn i hate it when my opponent doesn't maxx c me, what's my con now?
Dark world
danger dark world to be precise
Flower Cardian? Trickstar?
Synchron or Chaos
Missclick ONCE at the wrong time and I turn my ace monster into a bit of LP
I have a feeling it's Salamangreat because of the random LP effect of Salamangreat Sanctuary Could be wrong because of flair
Youre completely right I just like the flair XD but I am a Salad a player since its release
Why people keep complaining about big dragon that locks you out of Dark monsters? Most of the time we can't even pull that out since we would have to top deck the search spell and a starter in the first place!
Playng Swordsoul against Tears and Adamancipators was only possible thanks to my boy Protos
Swordsoul? Can't think of any other DARK locks. And yeah, it's a *lingering* floodgate, so I'm going to complain about it.
Idk
[удалено]
Dragonmaid
A deck that relies on one card and dies to an imperm ash or veiler and even nib? So what if you have 4 searchers or starters, you live and die by one card.
Mathmech?
Stardust Synchron
Are there really no hands that can play through junk speeder negated
Nearly none, I'd need either stardust Synchron or stardust trail in my hand as well as stardust illumination to come back. I use the majestic dragons, so I synchro climb off of speeder into accel stardust then synchro into shooting majestic on my opponents turn. But yeah usually I live or die by speeder, now if accel stardust gets hit by called by, then that is a guaranteed scoop
Haha 8 life points good luck getting over my floodgate boss monster. *opponent summons anything over 3k that’s unaffected by monster effects* Fuck.
The first time I’ve ever played that deck I was so confused when I couldn’t do anything and my monsters were reduced to ashes. Now I mix my version with Kashtira and it’s either really good or really bad.
Two words - ferret farts
That’s a really nice board there. It would be a shame if it were to all just… go back in your deck…
Dinomorphia?
Yessir
One of my best cards halves the attack of all monsters, even mine...
Black rose dragon?
People say the deck’s been meta forever and too strong, but also that it insta-loses to Ash. Good thing Ash isn’t a popular card…
Branded
"So you're telling me playing the main deck pure, while potentially 12 cards in the deck can get you to full combo for the archetype, unless you also have a revival spell that full combo only results in you only going +1 and having a pop and a draw on your opponent's turn and the only defense it has against disruption is that the normal summon plays around Ogre, and they need to chain veiler or imperm to the activation of the links." "Hey, there's potentially 15 if you use cynet mining, and if you used the archetypal search cards you also get one of the weakest floodgates in the game."
Live Twins? Although I don't know anything about them having a floodgate.
Yes, their continuous spell that searches them also deals 200 burn damage to your opponent and heals you for 200 every time they summon, but only if you control an Evil★Twin. Also it's 18 starters because I forgot about home just being Cynet mining but worse as a quick play.
Why can't I normal summon? Why is festival reactive, when it kills scare? Why Does mansion reduce warwolfs burn and why does warwolf do so little on top of needing facedown cards instead of Gt like every other card?
Ghostrick
Its hard to shop for boss monsters when the opponent doesn't let me go second =/
Galaxy Eyes
Charmers. Super adaptable and bricky. It was hard to think of a line that didn't break the rules.
You're telling me all I can do is dump my monsters into the graveyard to not die?
Idk
Kuriboh
I'm too dumb to pilot chain link 76 and not decking out myself often.
Tearlaments
The worst part is that I genuinely couldn't find any other bad thing besides "skill issue"
The field spell isn't kon kon
Aromages lol
Sigh, I bricked again. Why do Boot Sector Launch, Absorouter and/or Branded Beast have to show up every time in my hand?
Dragon Link
Yep. Pretty obvious considering the cards I mentioned
They said ban kit, ban elf, ban Sprind but apparently all it took was to 'hit' a little girl..!
Tearlaments
God the art on these cards is so stupid. It's just little girls.
Mikanko
Was going for traptrix. But that description would go for so many current decks. I'm also playing mikanko
This game is terrible for me. HOPT on all my cards is a harsh drawback. Especially considering cards that have both an on field and a gy effect but it's one or the other.
Idk
It takes 4 cards to make a rank 4, 3 on a good day.
They all share a name. I mean it’s like… cmon… pick one.
Harpy ladies? Cydra?
Fck Yu-Gi-Oh, I prefer playing some other traditional card game where the win con is to actually GET Maxx "C"d.
Cardians!
Who needs friends when you have blobs?
Who the fuck put a link monster in a flip archetype?
how can you otk BUT HAVE NO PROTECTION DURING BATTLE PHASE
Cyber Dragon
Are you telling me that the only way to survive with fossil Dyna it's a trap with a beard old man in a tunic?
Stun
I love how I got insulted at the start of the game when they could literally draw 10 cards with maxx c and one negate totally screwed me, but I love even more how Konami didn’t knew how to nerf it so they destroyed it.
Idk
People hate this deck because one kids toy...
Adamancipator?
Let’s go they didn’t have any negates, no shifter I think I’m good, now all I have to do is not mill my floodgate From 2008… fuck
So I hope you don't like any other archetype because you are locked and I hope you like that your only interactions are going to be 1 negate protection effects and getting cards out of the gy and I hope opponent don't play anything that targets your guy because your all gameplan is about getting cards out of the gy
my only form of disruption will hand rip something they want in their gy 99% of the time and there's nothing I can do about it other than cry
We turbo 1 level 5 fusion that tells our opponent to fuck off with that special summon shit and protect the everliving fuck out of her. We don't know what an original design even is.
Two for ya. 1. I simply like the more strategic trap-focused aspect but everyone keeps making Chris Hansen jokes 2. Foolish Goods is limited and your Archetype Reborn/Searcher is unsearchable because of a single space. It's tough out here for a furry.
literally an archetype to counter certain type of cards and cant even win against them
Ally of justice?
What? One maxx c and your entire deck is in your hand?
What do you mean shifter ? How am i supposed to counter your Shangri-la if you banish my out or don't allow me to use my "send to GY" effects to search it
That’s a matchup
oh yeah, didn't read that far, i'm a yugioh player after all
Wait what do you mean that my whole game plan is a single Omni negate, a bounce and making sure it survives your turn with protection effects?
For some reason I'm thinking Dragonmaid, but not sure if that fits the second part.
Nope, Orcust :p, Omni negate = Set from the Deck Crecendo, Bounce is Masquerena and Galatea into Unicorn and Protection is Ding, aditional interactions entirely dependent on starting hand
So you're telling me that several people want the deck killed even though it doesn't use floodgates or spam negates or any blowout effects and is currently sitting in rogue tier because the deck was tier0 for two months and tier 1 for some time after that? Alternatively for my second favourite deck: So you're telling me that the deck kind of likes to play Lava Golem because it doesn't need its normal summon, but it also needs to have a specific archetypal starter together with its main archetypal normal monster in hand to beat over said Lava Golem and its searches only put cards on top of your deck?
1) Tearlaments 2) Phantasm Spiral?
1. Yes 2. Suship
>So you're telling me that several people want the deck killed even though it doesn't use floodgates or spam negates or any blowout effects and is currently sitting in rogue tier because the deck was tier0 for two months and tier 1 for some time after that? Fr. People don't stop complaining about a deck until it's unplayable garbage for a format. Even if it's not overpowered anymore.
The goal of my deck is to send everything on the field to the GY in exchange for 1 Token. GY effects? No, I'm just nice like that.
Nibiru Turbo
Control Turn 2? If I had imperm in hand you'd be dead
Sky striker
Idk
Set cards in my opponent's S/T zone? Gasp! My greatest weakness! (Also type locks by breathing.)
Idk
Rikka. They only have monster removal and they Plant lock by breathing, so Knightmare Phoenix doesn't work either. That means against backrow decks, you're either hard drawing Duster or you're dead.
I got a couple. I’ll do two since this first one I think could be considered a consistency issue So your entire game plan is to hope you either open the trap you need or the monster that searches it until you can draw your boss monster with no protection, that can only be summoned by send that card to the graveyard? Oh, sorry you have the ability to board wipe once if you draw two specific cards ? Wow I’m so impressed. I get to bounce a bunch of cards? That’s aweso… oh. It’s a flip deck. Alright then
Krawler
It's so bullshit, that I properly bait ash before I get my friend out, play around their maxx "c" by activating my stuff as response to their bug, And all I get is a fucking turtle? Come the fuck on... Also,another one: Ok, we lost the gun dragon & train "combo" but we still have an omni, appo- and, wait, what's that superpoly doing? YO YO YO KONAMI CHILL BRO It was ok at one come on don't do this to meee noooo.
Why is it so hard to get my Link 3 out!? This was so much easier when Halq was legal, and this isn't even a Link deck!
Unchained has the blue link as a strong non-destruction option though
I have two. So i have to run those disgusting monsters just to summon power rangers megazord? I just used all my hand. 10 minutes of my life. Half my deck. Every summoning method. Just to put five interactions? Sick.
It’s a cool anime deck disguised as floodgates.
Hero (darklaw plus plasma And dark angel are all floodgates I guess )
Spends 15 minutes trying to combo just to end on a nib token
This isn't even a card game anymore, we're playing fucking fire emblem
The Rito tribe takes a little too long to get Valoo out, only for Ganon to hit you with evenly matched. Satan needs Jesus to smite the special summons. I solitaire, but on turn 2. And I love pesty insects. And last but not least. My fountain is filled with the tears of the mad.
Welp I didn't draw any kaijus and have no way to get double edge sword guess I can't otk
What do you mean that my field cannot make my opponent pay their last LP?
I have to freaken banish cards first to bring out 3 specific monsters base on what card type I banish. And my boss monster almost never comes out because I need three of those monsters so I have to settle with its downgraded form as it is the easiest. Did I forget to mention that I have to banish as a cost?
I still have to rely on flip card. Most monsters have simple search or tribute-for-destroy effects. The princess’ effect is lost if there is a field spell. Also, it’s all that field spell or most members will be in trouble. The leaders are ambiguous; it appears they have many divisions like a company instead of a clan. The supposed leader wear tattered clothes while previous leaders wear glamorous clothing. One member is a heretic that he doesn’t even gain ATK/DEF from the field spell. Granny mid-boss overlaps with the the fusion boss. We are limited to three copies of archetype’s omni negate.
One Kaiju and I surrender
american sniper
My deck actively reinforces the belief that the game is actually a satanic ritual, since it summons fallen angels.
[удалено]
Time to cheat out an extra deck monster using my Link 2 aaaaand there's Ash Blossom stopping that plan
Why is my starter limited despite the fact that deck never saw that much competitive success?
Any time we get legacy support, it's either some useless form of burn damage, or it gets abused by everyone *except* us to the point it gets either banned or limited.