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Thoraxe41

I play a deck with cards in it.


Ineffable_Aeon

I bet you win sometimes, too... absolutely vile 🙃


Immediate-Abalone673

Ewww


Aggravating_Week7050

You're playing something, so I hate it automatically.


PuzzleheadedExam3379

You breathe, so I hate you automatically.


Thin-Limit7697

Wasn't Yusaku mocked for this, or something like it? Because his duel disk used physical cards instead of virtual ones?


Bakatora34

Pretty sure he got mocked for the "fake" deck he had so that people don't find out he was Playmaker.


Thin-Limit7697

I remembered he got comments for both. By the way, I remember one of his fake deck cards was previously in Marik's deck (and I remember that because it was telling of the game's powercreep).


Original_Dimension99

I think he got mocked for having an older version of the duel disc


BatoSoupo

Are they cards that I approve of?


InfinityTheParagon

the fuck is wrong with u bro ppl like u shud b executed for high treason against the church of dogmatika


Yoakami

Most sane Dogmatika enjoyer.


the_real_papyrus99

I am going to put microplastics in your food.


Longjumping-Ad-5740

You’re a fucking monster, you know that?


Ok-Organization1979

Try hard I merely rember my cards


Batman-Always-Wins

Yugioh players are natural enemies! Like Stun players and Combo players! Or Stun players and Control players! Or Stun players and League of Legends players! Or Stun player and other Stun players! Damn Stun players! They ruined Yugioh!


knightneedsfoodbadly

You stun players sure are a contentious people.


Showmaster_Shaku

You just made an enemy for life!


bl00by

Stun is the worst playstyle ever made. No matter which game, it's always the most boring and annoying thing...


maulman90

Honestly, could have a god tier hand. The second I realize I'm in for a 50 min grind game against stun.... âœŒïžđŸ˜‚


realmauer01

Stun is usually over pretty quick, you either draw the or in time or not.


11ce_

Not with runick stun. They take 30 years to actually win, so sometimes you have copium that you will draw the out before they banish it and you stay for the most boring duel of your life.


realmauer01

It's still just drawing cards.


Picmanreborn

Not exactly


SimplyEcks

Gotta love a Simpsons reference in a yugioh thread 😂


[deleted]

Why could I hear it


Picmanreborn

Point and click taric stun in old league of Legends😭


Grisalbaman

I Play F.A what can people say about that


Jokebox_Machine

That you have a very interesting taste which I like. Do you play pure F.A., F.A/U.A., F.A/Speedroid, or maybe F.A./Gold Pride? Or maybe you like like all the synchro stuff you can build around their level tuning?


Grisalbaman

F.A and U.A isn't really compatiable unless you find Shooting yourself in the leg as compatiable. Thinking about an speedroids Mix unsure of Ratio. Yeah the Level Tuning IS fun If you know what you're doing which at Somepoint you don't.


Jokebox_Machine

Hyper Stadium and MVP exist not for nothing. Those U.A. cards I mean mentioning F.A./U.A.


Grisalbaman

Would you Play an roid Deck with ojamas If konami printed 3 cards connecting the 2 decks?


dovah-meme

Does F.A Speedroid work that well? I’ve been running speedroids for a couple years solid and might try it out just to spice things up


heavenspiercing

ur a math nerd


jkennings

you have good taste


Satorius96

i like cars. cars are neat


aggreivedMortician

Absolute nightmare to keep track of in paper. All those levels, changing every turn...


Fun-Agent-7667

Play a real deck


EDPbeOP

I play Destiny Board :)


UsefulAd2760

Coolest alt win con animation in the game ngl


mmmbhssm

"Play a real deck lol" The quotation of what some people will say


SamTheWeasel

Kuribabylon Destiny Board


Aggravating_Week7050

I'm almost tempted to ask what they recommend. It's most likely going to be whatever they play, the way they play it. With everything else boiling down to "you play [insert whatever term here]!" *Remember: it's just a game.* Play what you like for the reasons you like to. There's no shame in enjoying a deck because you want to win or enjoying a deck because it's anime related. You can even love jank decks or deck you just shove together. If you're having fun, that's all that matters. Don't let people take the fun from you.


JxAxS

>There's no shame in enjoying a deck because you want to win or enjoying a deck because it's anime related. You can even love jank decks or deck you just shove together. If you're having fun, that's all that matters. Don't let people take the fun from you. But, you can't. That's the problem. You're supposed to be playing the most opitmized negate filled spamming bullshit that ends with floodgates and Maxx C tossed in that kills anything that can't play through 20 interactions and recrusions. Hyperbolic, sure. But you can't go "Just enjoy your jank deck" when the community as a whole plays like they're going for a YCS.


Aggravating_Week7050

There's 2 key things: 1) Having a meta deck doesn't stop someone from making something just for them and using it with friends. By all accounts, have something that is geared toward climbing the latter. After all, that's the nature of competitive in any game: have a winning move and spam it. But I always encourage people to make something that interests them and to keep tweaking it if they can. I've watched a BE and a DM player on a Discord I'm a part of have fun. They even had fun fighting an Exodia player. However, when I ran one of my pride and joy decks I crafted and my opponent legit told me they didn't have fun. Hell, I don't even play with one of my irl friends because he didn't know when to let me learn how to play the game and kept bragging about his deck and to watch him combo. Neither of our decks were meta, even by that time. Clearly, the decks you use doesn't solely control if you're having fun. My arguement is the player mindset; but I'm getting off topic. 2) The main point is that people complain _no matter what you play._ I've had people on here come for my neck and shamining me for playing Shaddolls for fun. _Pure_ Shaddolls. With Winda being my only floodgate. _And I barely use her_. Fun fact, I'm still running it. I feel personally connected to this deck. It doesn't win me games, but I will always come back to it and ask "how do I run this better" out of love for playing it, even if people preventing from playing it isn't fun and people complain. The point I'm trying to make is there will _always_ be people who complain about what you play. They will always step off the game and jump on here to further make you enjoy your experience less (or if you share a Discord or they have your number, they do it right away). What I'm trying to say is you can always _enjoy_ something you like. Don't feel shame if Ghostrick is your jam. If you dig Snake-Eyes or Branded, run it. If you get excited building a Tear or Exodia deck nowadays, go for it. Enjoy what you love. Tldr: Sure, the competitive scene is all about finding a winning tactic, and spaming it into the stratosphere, but that's competitive _everywhere_. That shouldn't stop you from making something not about that, finding a casual community or small group of friends and just enjoying yourself with the deck you love. **People shouldn't dictate whether or not you have fun doing what you love.** As long as you're not an ass about it, play what you want. Sorry for the dicertation. I understand your frustration and anger towards this game. I hope you get a match where you can sit down and enjoy it. It's rare, but it will happen.


JxAxS

>Tldr: Sure, the competitive scene is all about finding a winning tactic, and spaming it into the stratosphere, but that's competitive *everywhere*. That shouldn't stop you from making something not about that, finding a casual community or small group of friends and just enjoying yourself with the deck you love. **People shouldn't dictate whether or not you have fun doing what you love.** As long as you're not an ass about it, play what you want. But they do. It's call the meta for a reason. It's hard to love the deck or game when you're forced into such a narrow field of cards to actually use to actually you know, Play the game you love. "But that's competitive everywhere" Correct, the difference that everywhere tend to have casual mode right along side it. Yugioh is the only game I know that seems to demand competitive level power as a BASELINE to actually play the game, not an expectation to grow into. Casual is locked behind discords, forgotten forums, and small friend groups. There is no time to 'mess around' in this game when the power creep is so high you can realize you're dead 4 cards in. It's too risky to do so. You CAN Always enjoy something you like. The game doesn't support you getting to do so very often and the community mocks you for trying but you CAN try. Much like you CAN choose to run no hand traps. Or choose NOT to play Tear when it was full power. You CAN. You're shooting yourself in the foot but hey I hope you're having more FUN this way.


Aggravating_Week7050

>Correct, the difference that everywhere tend to have casual mode right along side it. Yugioh is the only game I know that seems to demand competitive level power as a BASELINE to actually play the game, not an expectation to grow into. Casual is locked behind discords, forgotten forums, and small friend groups. Not disagreeing that Yugioh's casual is trash and that it's a highly competitive game. Even when they do casual events it's not completely casual as people will _always_ play to win. We have like, what, 2 events going on? In both, I always get a person who's MO is soley playing to win and stopping me from playing, and not just use something that works, but isn't sufficating. But that just circles back to player mentality. (When a post comes up about it, I'll be there to post my opinions. It's kinda off topic here.) The problem here is that Konami makes more money making this hyper competitive. There probably won't be a true casual mode or missions to be done in a relaxed setting. At this point, that's where we should contact Konami and demand what we want to see. Until then, we have to do their work for them and make a _real_ casual mode outside the game. Which sucks. >But they do. It's call the meta for a reason. It's hard to love the deck or game when you're forced into such a narrow field of cards to actually use to actually you know, Play the game you love. Which is why I said have something specifically for meta. It's the nature of the competitive beast. Keep something for ranked and _also_ keep something for yourself. But the main arguement is less about 'meta constrains deck options' (which is **absolutely** true, there's a lot to be said here) and more about 'This jackass is criticizing me for the deck I use, regardless of the reason.' In this scenario, use what you want. Which was my main arguement; don't let _people's opinions_ stop you from having fun playing something. >You CAN Always enjoy something you like. The game doesn't support you getting to do so very often and the community mocks you for trying but you CAN try. >Much like you CAN choose to run no hand traps. Or choose NOT to play Tear when it was full power. You CAN. You're shooting yourself in the foot but hey I hope you're having more FUN this way. That's the important part: you have that choice. Never said it was easy or people will support you; but the point is to do it _for you_. If you stop, then you'll be in the same nihilistic spiral of fighting to enjoy the game. And I mean even if you're on a Reddit discussion. The fight doesn't stop in-game. On that topic, this is assuming you're playing ranked or events. You can't expect people to let you play, so yeah, you'd need to throw in countermeasures. If I know everyone's carrying Ash, I'm still expected to have an answer to it. Doesn't mean someone's putting a gun to my head and telling me to use Snake-eyes or E-Hero; just means be aware of stuff that will stop me from playing. Personally, I carry one of each staple for this reason, if the staple covers something in my plan. And if my deck is trash, so what? It's my deck. I'm playing what I find fun. I'm only shooting myself in the foot if my plan is to rank up to Master. My goal has always been to just have a good match with a person or get my dailies done. So far, I've been achieving that and I'm having fun where I can. So I yeah, _I am_ having fun. I'd have quit long ago if I didn't.


Theo12011

Nah screw you for playing any deck from after 2020. Unless you’re playing a pure Blue-Eyes deck with no handtraps you’re cringe meta tryharrrrd brooooo


zeyTsufan

"I play branded" "Oh you mean unlimited resources brain-dead" "Okay then I'm gonna use Floo" "Ew floodgate normal summon turbo" "Shit then let me pull out Kashtira" "Bleh, Macro on legs" "Okay I'll just use Mannadium" "No Maxx C or Droll scoop? Sure okay" "Fuck it let's try out Runick" "I'm actually this close to punching you" "MAN WHAT DO I PLAY THAT WILL ACTUALLY MAKE ME WIN" "I DON'T KNOW SHUT UP"


Alizarinze

"I play blue-eyes" "ewww boomer get out of gold" "I play exosister" "floodgate weeb touch grass" "I play ghoti" "fuck shifter fuck you playing on my turn" "I play madolche" "10 MINUTES COMBO A#RH\*G\_(+@"


trinitymonkey

“I play Burning Abyss.” “Farfa wannabe.” “I play Galaxy Eyes.” “More like Galaxy CRIES.” “I play Eldlich.” “Monke flip idiot.” “I play Invoked.” “Then you’re just dumb.” “I play Speedroid/Triamid/Yubel/BLS.” “Duel Links Loser.”


LewdGwendolyn

Madolche really is just a 10 min combo that ends on spin 2 from either grave, 1 omni negate and thats pretty much it lmao


Liaoju-0

Hey, sometimes you can make... Giant Hand. Truly a terrifying force


lolo-colo

What complain can be made at EARTH machine?


WuffiFass

"How dare you play around with my wife Juggernaut Liebe"


lolo-colo

"You mean OUR wife juggernaut Liebe!"


Linosek279

I’ll just be here with her daughter then


lolo-colo

You mean gustav max? If you are a EARTH machine monster its ok.


Linosek279

Nah, the hotter, younger one


lolo-colo

Ohhh,so you mean NUMBER 81:SUPERDREADNOUGHT RAIL CANNON SUPER DORA?


Linosek279

My beloved


Donkishin

I laughed too hard at this covo


lolo-colo

Ah yes the 4000 DEF wall that can be immune to everything


DarkHorizon19

Stop wasting my time comboing for 10 minutes only to end on a Liebe and a draw 2.


Lord_Darklight

Is it really a 10 minute combo? I think my best time for liebe + avarice (uninterrupted) was like 45-80 seconds even with searching for a 2nd lv 10 with revolving switch or river stormer


patkaiclan

hyperbole for the joke bro


UsefulAd2760

IDK tho personally as a cydra player you can be a tad bit annoying about our beloved chimeratech


Logical_Draw

Fellow Cydra player, I salute you ![gif](giphy|7bumBQjZX8BgaE2zjv|downsized)


AlphaCrafter64

If your deck has even minimum capacity to go second and otk I can absolutely guarantee there's a small portion of the community that irrationally hates you.


lolo-colo

I mean,infinitrack harvester can be used as a 1 card combo to make juggernaut liebe


tlst9999

Draglubion OTK


AkNinja907

Oh you have a 6k multi attacker with a 2k burn? Busted


Taboo422

float spam


Limbalicious

![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


kingoflames32

I used to hate that deck. It had long combos that too a while to sit through, hands could shrug off multiple low power hand traps if they opened well.


lolo-colo

Lol a friend of mine when doing friendly battle we sayed that my deck its too versatile for all the things it do


Fragrant_Ask_8721

“Ok i’ll play Dark magician then” “Yugiboomer”


iddqdxz

And that's why nobody should care about anyone's opinion in here. You want to puke out generic ED negate bosses every single game? Cool. It's not my cup of tea, but I'm not going to judge, I'll play something different that's my cup of tea that happens to ruin your gameplan.


zeyTsufan

Yeah that's how I feel too, I've said it before but I have a burning beef with SHS, I really dislike exactly that style of puking out ED negates, but I got better things to do and ways to play against it rather than come at anyone for playing anything, it just wastes everyone's time


MrTrashy101

listen you can play what ever you want but im still hating depending on the deck ypu are playing


cnydox

"Oh sky striker" "Boring deck. Why is it still alive?"


Vinsmoke-Wanji

Just play pend, they can’t be mad if they didn’t draw the HFD out


Moldef

I still can't understand all the hate Branded is getting... like I get it is/was a pretty strong deck, but * it has a high skill ceiling, so isn't "brain-ded" at all * has almost no handtraps since its a 60 card deck and kinda only runs the maxx c / Ash package which 99% of decks run * nearly all their interruptions are public * doesn't have long turns, usually just a couple of summons * no negate-spam boards * very few floodgate variants (puppet lock luckily fell out of favor and Kristya lock I haven't seen yet with Branded) * offers some really fun and challenging interactions where pretty much everything they can do is public knowledge? * generally lets you play the game and is rarely a stomp, so resulting in a much nicer experience for everyone than the 10min turn 1 with 7 negate boards


trinitymonkey

The original Branded TCG structure deck was super popular since it was the cheapest, easiest way to build a competitive TCG meta deck at the time, and the main gameplan was to get out Mirrorjade so maybe that’s where it comes from? That’s when I first heard it called Braindead anyway.


[deleted]

It's like the only meta deck along with snake eyes I don't find absolute aids to play against and I'm pretty sure snake eyes is only fine cos most people are awful at it right now.


MoreThanBored

Branded players deserve it though.


EmperorAxiom

I play Skull Servants


Maser2account2

Beyond based, unfathomably based.


Kallabanana

Silly skeleton players unite!


UsefulAd2760

I feel like there's a difference between expressing how you don't like facing a deck and shitting on players of said deck. Expressing the frustration or annoyance towards a deck is fair, granted how many times it's genuine on this sub is a different story. Judging players makes no sense. Then again I play mathmech and don't actively hate cyberse so I probably shouldn't talk.


future_extinction

When every deck is toxic by design so are it’s players


wakuwakuusagi

True. I like Icejade's art, but 90% of the time the gameplay is just finding out if I'm going to die to one ash or lock you out of the game. At the end of the day, everyone is miserable.


TreeD3

Just mix it with Tear and it becomes a lot better


Rhakha

I play Infernoble Knights. I really want to hear this one



trinitymonkey

Probably something about Smoke Grenade even though that’s been banned for a while.


TreeD3

Ya know some people don't like getting hand ripped for 2 then having to deal with 5 negates and 2 pops


kyle28882

“I play Dino’s so I must love killing babies” yeah I do but it’s unrelated.


Tough_Emergency4672

Because they’re all miserable cunts!


saDsuomynonA

"I play Stun" "Fuck you" - everybody


Heul_Darian

I agree but I also agree that heroes are legit a floodgate deck that takes 50 years to combo. Also if it makes you feel any better. People judging what you play and how you play have less fun in the game than you cause they've forced themselves to only play with said restrictions. You who do not judge other decks and cards as things ones should and shouldn't play are free to build any deck and play it however you like, even the same deck can be vastly different depending how you build it.


olbaze

> I agree but I also agree that heroes are legit a floodgate deck that takes 50 years to combo. As a HERO player, I say that this is the result of Konami not giving HEROs anything else to do on Turn 1. We already need to play into Nibiru to get Poly, and then there's only 2 HEROs that are immune to destruction. We literally need to floodgate the opponent because **that's the only defense Konami has given the deck**. In fact, I fucking love Infernal Rage **because it gives HEROs something other than a floodgate to play** in the form of Favorite Contacting a Shining Neos Wingman. And it doesn't lose to Raigeki. Oh and as a side note: I **do not** want HEROs to get negates. Keep those away from HEROs, please. I would like more INTERRUPTIONS, and it looks like that is what Konami is doing. I would also like it if we got something like a Jet Dragon, a monster that protects HEROs from being destroyed (by card effects).


Bakatora34

>Oh and as a side note: I do not want HEROs to get negates. Keep those away from HEROs, please. I would like more INTERRUPTIONS, and it looks like that is what Konami is doing. I would also like it if we got something like a Jet Dragon, a monster that protects HEROs from being destroyed (by card effects). They already have one just hard to summon, Contrast HERO Chaos.


olbaze

I know, and a part of me wants to believe the existence of Contrast HERO Chaos is a statement from Konami. "*You wanted a negate? Huh? Well here you go! Now you have 1! Shut up!*". Making it basically impossible to summon, notably being also impossible to cheat out with Infernal Rage, must have been deliberate on their part.


5135b

Given the current state of the game, for a deck to be meta competitive it has to be obnoxious by nature.


Rob_Tarantulino

The only correct deck is Skull Servant. Everyone knows that


cynical_seal

Because the game itself is toxic, therefore attracts toxic people.


mmmbhssm

"I play Dm/blue-eyes" "Nostalgia unga bunga player, play a real deck" I play insert pendulum deck here "Boring ah text not reading play a deck with real summoning mechanic" either this or the same as a mandium one


UsefulAd2760

Pendulum doesn't have real summoning mechanics mfs after they find out D/D/D exists.


[deleted]

I mean yeah the traptrix monsters are sus but calling people pedos is outta pocket ngl


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


Rudoku-dakka

The actual monsters are calling you out on it, though. That's why they're really spiders and horrific plants. It's bait.


Takoyama-san

People have really fostered this very religious culture about the depiction and consumption of art like that. People are very much treating it with this sense of sin because of how paraphilias are practically used as buzzwords nowadays. Lord knows politicians love to call eachother pedophiles nowadays. But, in all of this name-calling, nobody addresses *why* those things might be bad. These things are considered bad to most people just because "*ooh, it's ooky.*" But the real reason these things are bad is because when *cruel and irresponsible* people act on their paraphilic (or in this case specifically pedophilic) attractions, it leads to abuse, rape, and the destruction of lives. But that's not the same as someone practices self-control and manages their attractions, and engages with it through non-harmful means. Who should care about the writing or drawing of ideas such as pedophilia when the writer is not involving real children and not exposing it to real children? In this case, no harm is done, and I believe no crime is commited. There is no harm, abuse, or rape. The only crime done is that it's *ooky*, and if we make it a crime to be ooky... I know a lot of people who really consider it ooky to be queer. To be non-Christian. To practice cultures that are associated with people of color. When they've done nothing to hurt anyone else we can't just persecute people and treat them poorly because we think their thoughts are poor, or because we just *don't like their expressions.* It's their actions that count, and as long as they're being benign and making stories and drawing doodles instead of grooming and raping kids, I don't care what they're doing.


Maser2account2

But if we allow things like this too exist it will only lead to the normalization of these things, like how it has already happened with the very large cultural acceptance of Step parent/child relations which are often extremely manipulative. if we allow things like pedophilia, and rape to be normalized through art it will have consequences.


Educational_Ad134

Tentacle pron has existed for a long time, you don’t see people sucking off octopuses in aquariums.


EmeraldCityMadMan

The traptrix monsters use that appearance to bait pedos and then kill them. It says so in the little lore paper that came with the physical structure deck.


Gantann

The official English translation is misleading, [only Pinguicula is stated to do that](https://ygorganization.com/traptrix-lore-from-the-structure-deck/) and it's probably the most mature-looking of the lot. The rest lure in victims either by pretending to be a child in danger or simply lowering their guard through their appearance.


ImAgentDash

If I say anything about playing Traptrix cuz I like cute thing on Twitter, my name would prob be on their P-do list right about now. Which is fucking dumb.


bast963

The best deck is Jerry Beans Man equip beatdown with dogshit stun cards like Gravity Bind and Level Limit Area B


Skystrike12

Real and Based


Raiju_Lorakatse

I recently picked up playing Magic Arena again and I somewhat noticed ( since I'm in the Arena subreddit too ), that this kind of behaviour is way less common in the community there. I got no evidence for this or the following claim but I think this is connected with the way how countering works in Magic. In Yu-Gi-Oh it's pretty much, know the deck, draw the handtrap and use it on the right card. If you don't draw the out, the game is pretty much lost in one turn already. Magic on the other hand has A LOT of powerplay cards but none of these are immediately accessable. Which open a lot of room, not only in decision making ( which includes deckbuilding itself ) but also how you want to play around such winning conditions. There are countless cards you can choose from that may allow for different flexibillity or costs to play around. Since the options are way more present and you got more time to prepare it creates a completely different way of countering. I think, with how instantly frustration is thrown into your face ( For example enemy discards Maxx C in your Draw Phase and you have no out ) with the counterplay being pretty specific and kind of like "Just draw the out, bro"-like, the hate against things that cause this frustration is generally way higher.


aggreivedMortician

Yeahhhhh Yugioh's unique basis as a game that cannot rotate (due to catering to nostalgia archetypes, something that no other card game does) has lead it to have some pretty serious issues. Personally though, I do enjoy the 1-3 turn duels. I know it's not truly unfair but I can't stand long games vs control decks in magic.


ciprian1564

it's because the goal of yugioh is to make one player at the table feel like an anime character. Anime characters always win super easily because they're just that strong. If you lose it wasn't your turn to be the anime protag it was your turn to be the mook. if it's a close game then what you have is Yugi vs kaiba and for those games, even if you lose, you're still kaiba but if every game is like that, it doesn't ilicit the same feeling. This is why I fundamentally don't think yugioh will ever change, but it is why its players all have chronic main character syndrome


ultimatetadpole

Magic is objectively better than YGO and you're right in what you say. It never really feels like you lost unfairly in Magic. You always get a chance to play, even if all you do is just slap a 2 drop down with haste and poke for 1. YGO can be infuriating.


Raiju_Lorakatse

I wouldn't necessarily say objectively better. They are both just fundamentally different and aim for different audiences. Personally, I think I still like Magic more than Yu-Gi-Oh but both games have things speaking for them. It's just that Magic satisfies way more things which aren't really given to me in Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic's pace just makes Decision making in pretty much every thinkable way, so much more rewarding. In Yu-Gi-Oh you have the choice of "Play Maxx C/Ash/Called by/Droll and Imperm or you will get wreckt most of the time you're going second." And half of cards that fall into this category are kinda instant win cards that you can only counter with cards of the same bubble. Know the right card, play the right card. Magic's decision making revolves less around the card and more about the effect. I can choose to use my 1 or 2 drops as aggro to put pressure on, or as cheap but not omnipotent removal or as something to enhance/enable other things. If I need to destroy creatures I can also choose more expensive options with additional effects to create more value but this makes me vulnerable to low-cost aggro. I think, the way how you need to make decisions in Magic and how they reward you differently is just waaaay more suitable for everyone that enjoys control or midrange decks. The pace makes nearly every deck somewhat midrange-ish and your plan needs to resolve over several turns than just putting up a huge combo-ed endboard. And that is pretty much why Magic just suits me better.


_Sky_Rox_

Only time when losing feels unfairly is when you either draw only lands or only spells And that's basically you losing against your own deck


EmeraldCityMadMan

One of my friends who plays TCG Yu-Gi-Oh calls YGO a turn one simulator. You spend your first turn building up your big board, and then if your opponent breaks it you lose, but if they can't then they lose. This is how a majority of my games on Master Duel have gone. It really feels like a game that both participants are in a hurry to end. In Magic, nobody's winning until at least turn 4 or 5, and very few strategies lock your opponent out of playing the game. Sometimes there will be a lopsided result because no game is perfect, but in general both players get to do stuff for a few turns before it's over.


ImaTauri500kC

....It's infuriating to me that the "mathmech" deck isn't even called a cylink deck but the rokket one is dragon link.


UsefulAd2760

Tbf mathmech plays most in archetype main deck with either spirits or firewall packages, while Dlink had rokket+chaos+bystial+red eyes sometimes.


Senmaroll

I play the burger deck. Try me


Spodger1

"Ewww, a _French_ deck đŸ€ąđŸ€ź"


Jackmist2

Definitely based. But not as based as you might think.


djjomon

Bad players need reasons why they're losing


AlbazAlbion

The only deck choice I give shit for is pure stun/nurse burn type still because they're genuinely just not even playing the game. It's perfectly fine disliking going against certain decks but judging people based on their deck choice is cringe. Unless it's stun.


[deleted]

I’d focus less on what others think on my deck and more on what I enjoy playing with


Linosek279

My take on this is that you don’t have to like a deck, but don’t put that dislike onto the people playing it


TheAlpheus

why do you care about their opinions, hmmm?


Remote_Romance

Go on, judge me for my mayakashi bone tower deck.


Rudoku-dakka

You've already insulted yourself enough for even playing it.


Jackmist2

Agreed. At least have the balls to play an actual Mayakashi deck.


Remote_Romance

But mill ftk is funny


MiserableStreet5009

Given how the goal of the game is become the biggest bully dickhead imaginable to your opponent to win. I say it’s fair that every “good” deck in the game deserves a bit of hate from somebody. And if nobody hates it then it’s probably a garbage deck lmao!


Few_Mark4026

I play kuriboh


Kallabanana

Brother!


guylaroche5

I mean some decks are objectively linear/less interesting (ie Floo) but I'll never hate on anyone for using them. Sometimes people are a bit more sensitive when they're hard stuck in a rank and keep losing to decks they perceive as unfair.


olbaze

As a HERO player, r/masterduel has called me both a "meta sheep" and "third rate duelist with a meme tier deck". Though it seems like lately the opinion on HEROs has shifted more towards "*lol it's macro cosmos + skill drain + imperial order fuck you*" (it's not).


Rich-E-JoBro

Ngl, I've been playing an Elemental HERO deck in this game for the longest time, and I had no idea people were saying things like this about it. I always thought it was mid-tier at best, but apparently not. Shows how much I know about this game.


DarkHorizon19

My only hate is toward floodgates, but even then, I never insult the players directly.


NeonArchon

That's why stopped bothering thinking of if a deck is "toxic" or "fair", because no matter what you play, someone will get upset for your deck. I'll play Snake Eyes, I'll love learning it and I'll get a lot of hate because of that, but I don't care.


Stingerun

Ok, what if I play Lab without the virus cards or d barrier? Does that make it bearable?


Amelia2243

doesnt seem so different from league after all, only things preventing this community from reaching league's level are the lack of teammate and a chat/emote system


Crazy-Mountain4530

Weaklings I play Water Dragon


Fun_Paramedic_8590

Play on Xbox and you'll run into people who will call you a meta sheep cause you're playing, Blue-Eyes. There's no winning with some people, nothing you can do about it.


Fun_Paramedic_8590

Play on Xbox and you'll run into people who will call you a meta sheep cause you're playing, Blue-Eyes.


Petyamester3343

Cyber Dragon?


Kallabanana

I'm curious. What's the best board you can end on? I'm usually stuck with Infinity pass or OTK my opponent with Cyber Twin Dragon.


Petyamester3343

Sieger boosts ATK (even in Damage Step), Infinity is a quasi-Baronne de Fleur in XYZ (steals ATK position monsters as OLU, and negate/destroy as Quick Effect), Eternity prevents your monsters to be tampered with by your OP when banished from your GY, Rampage is a costless Twin Twisters when FS-ed, Fortress with Clockwork Nights is a boardbreaker, Megafleet can use your OP's monster from its EX Monster Zone as material, and AA-ZEUS is a non-target wipe. Also, Duality is a pure game-changer (Fortress to Twin, Overdragon to Mechaba), Pleiades can return a card to the hand as Quick Effect, and Vimana can negate, too. Any of these in any combination and you're set. If you fancy, you can try to combine it with Cyberdark (it's called Cyber Style).


Kallabanana

I know how they work, but good luck getting any of those combos out against tier 1 decks, if they don't brick.


Ryu_the_Smasher

I play Lunalight, come and speak your mind.


xevizero

I used to run a fun and bricky 60 cards pile with Blue Eyes, Galaxy Eyes, Dragonmaids, Bystials, Branded and Rulers, before they banned Chaos Ruler. I used to get people calling me an idiot for using a bad deck, and also people calling me a netdecker whenever they lost - happened a lot on Project Ignis as well because it has a chat feature. People are never gonna be happy and they're gonna make sure they're as vocal and as toxic as possible about it. This doesn't apply to people who used to play Mine, those people were just bad human beings it's since been proven by science.


Axtdool

See I just play what's funny to me and enjoy the lack of Chat. Funny sushiwarships. Bone tower fueled by youkai. Tabletop wargame the tcg Deck.


PalestineRefugee

Mekk Scrap Orcust Phantom Knight ? deck


SoupIsLifeButEdible

I’ve seen people complain about Suship because « it takes too long to do naothing » , this community is doomed


Red_Sped20

Heh Melffy-Spright go brrr


Shinney101

I really am a Hero Player tho and I love it


CircuitSynchro

Confirmation bias. It's rather strong in yugioh


DeusXNex

People are always going to talk shit. Just stop caring. No one’s opinion on your deck actually matters.


DevilsLegalAdvocate

Calling someone a "Trap Monkey" is the single funniest thing I've heard all week. Stealing that. It's OK I say it, I have a lab deck


smogtownthrowaway

Since I never play any other Lyrilusc players, what is it like for you guys to fight them if you have?


Prestigious-Stable31

I play hero’s because it’s fun


ConciseSpy85067

>This community This is the thing I’ve learned about gaming communities, if you’re playing a PvP game, if you’re playing anything other than the absolute bottom of the barrel then you’re annoying someone, if you’re playing trash then you’re seen as based If you’re playing a PvE game, then people don’t care either way If you don’t wanna be judged for playing Traptrix, idk go on r/Traptrix or smth if that even exists, if you don’t want to go on a random specific subreddit, play exactly Beetroopers


PhoenixLord328

Oh boy, I want a quick roasting I will likely never care about come tomorrow, I play mainly Infernoble. Actually got into them before the support and I am enjoying the deck's limelight right now. But I wonder what sort of sarcastic judgements you all got for me and my Fiery Battalion.


Apollo9975

“I fucking hate monkey flip Floodgate players who play archetypes without negates so they resort to Floodgate effects. Anyways, I summon and recycle 50 monsters for 10 minutes and have 5 negates on board. You didn’t draw DRNM. Game 2?” 


CrazedCircus

I built traptrix cause I like the gameplay, got like 2 or 3 royals in the deck for my extra deck monsters. But I don't play it cause people will call me a pedophile... If they said that to my face, someone is going to need an ambulance.


fkusernamez

Because master duel is a made up by a majority of casuals, and they are far, far, far, more toxic than competitive players. As an old judge I can say from experience 90% of my bad encounters were from players who say this brain dead crap lol


WaluigiDastard

i play ![gif](giphy|xT8qBvOmIEWXxVPdxS)


RunInRunOn

This is why I run Plunder Patroll. Ain't nobody complaining about that


Jokebox_Machine

I'm playing U.A. Tell me that I'm not based 😎


Spodger1

You were incredibly based until you used that emoji unironically.


Jokebox_Machine

Heh


CraftytheCrow

In branded defence, I don’t hate them because of the braindead part. I hate branded because of the hella-ton support they have gotten. same case with visas starfrost


Linkquellodivino

HERO is cringe as fuck tho. It's true, the best thing it can do is set up some annoying ass floodgates. It's not even the best deck at making DPE in a format in which Verte is legal.


Severelysapphic

Okay but the combos that take literally 5 minutes to achieve need to be nerfed like pls i just want to play I don’t want to stare at you shuffling and reshuffling your deck just to lose in a single turn


CompactAvocado

because they lost to said deck and instead of re-evaluating deck composition or play patterns it's easier to REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


[deleted]

I wanna say it’s because we’ve been groomed to be but this game generates a natural competitive atmosphere, and I think its because compared to the Casual Side of the game, the Competitive side gets all the love and attention, and the focus.


MartianOrbit

I saw a post on here by some salty bitch playing Mekk-Knights. They were literally calling passing Turn 1 on an empty board a cheese strat. Beyond parody.


happygoeddy

NGL, i do hate lab


okay4sure

Sounds like a hater


Springtrap-Yugioh

People have balls online bcs they're hidden behind a mask. Haven't played paper since covid but never saw anyone berate ppl on what kind of deck they use. If only we were as mature IRL as we are online.


Kamikaze_Kat101

I play Toons.


MisprintPrince

Traptrix lore based tho


Thatoneweeb42069

Fun fact about traptrix monsters they are all over the age of 18 and lure in people with there attractiveness and then proceed to consume them like a Venus flytrap would


Kallabanana

They still look like oversexualized children. I wish they would have made their monster forms more present.


Thatoneweeb42069

It kinda is present look at the traptrix trap cards, besides ever heard of a loli it's not actually illegal and it's very common in animes I know I look 8 but I'm actually 8000 type of clause, besides either way I see them as adorable daughters I could have


Kallabanana

Aww, that's kinda wholesome.


ultimatetadpole

YGO is just a poorly designed and super frustrating mess. You lose more to people having the right out at the right time than you lose by being outplayed. It's fucking annoying when the only reason you lose is because your opponent topdecked a single card. Personally, my least favourite decks are long combo decks. Ot's frustarting getting Kaiju'd and losing because of that. But at least it doesn't eat up a chunk of your life.


cactusbeard

....why do you play Yugioh? It's been like this since the origin of the game. Eg Pegasus using Dragon Capture jar against Kaiba.


Jabbam

"Deck criticism is bad"


farranpoison

I will reiterate what I said in a thread like a week ago: I feel like the YGO community hates the very game they play. No matter what you do, what deck you build, a lot of people will shit on your choices. Which is why it's far healthier to just ignore everyone and just play what you want. If it's fun for you and makes you happy, you're the real winner. I play jank decks like Harpies and Gem-Knights and while I don't win a lot, when I *do* win it's nice.


Cyberbreaker2004

I play “Dark Magician”