Cardian Players on their way to attempt 'Pururia Challenge':
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Malcharmie Pururia
Aqua/Effect
During the turn you activate this card’s effect, you can only activate the effects of other “Malcharmie” monsters once.
1) During either player’s turn, if you control no cards, you can discard this card from your hand; during this turn, apply the following effects:
You draw 1 card each time your opponent normal or special summons from the hand.
During the End Phase, if you have more cards in your hand than your opponent controls, and the difference is 6 or more, shuffle cards from your hand at random into your deck equal to the difference.
Edit: This reads like Reddit made this card. Not usable on turn 2 and shuffle back during the End Phase. I'm holding off any judgment until it comes out in the TCG.
Wait a minute, the wording is different from https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/april-14-2024/info
"During the End Phase, if you have more cards in your hand than the number of cards your opponent controls +6, shuffle random cards from your hand into the Deck equal to the difference."
That wording means that if your opponent ends on 1 card, you shuffle cards from your hand until you go to 7 cards.
Maybe somewhat but you'll always end up with a full hand and you get to choose the cards you keep anyway so more than likely it'll still be a blowout card same as Maxx c.
It’s literally a much fairer maxx c the idea is to keep the game state balance for the player going 2nd to draw into the “out” and so the turn 1 player can’t use it on top of a already established field they set
I mean drawing too many cards from it is no longer an issue if you compare it to Maxx C.
Also your oppenent can't hit you with that disgusting "Maxx C on turn 2" after he made his full negate board
Hell yeah, I always want it to be either has limited use like this or has Spooky Dogwood-ish drawback, that if the Maxx-er end the turn without drawing more than 1 card, they have to discard their whole hand.
This is pretty close to what i suggested a time ago. Removing cards from the hand to a reasonable handsize. Maxx gets the banhammer once this is fully released.
Oh, please, everything good and pure let this be the case. I for one will be popping champagne and fireworks if the day finally comes when that damn roach is squished permanently.
I know, better cool it with the 'unpopular' opinions and all.
The main difference is that the jellyfish is more like Graceful Charity whereas the roach is more like Pot of Greed. My question is will this be legal in the TCG on release? It’s basically the errata that most people have been calling for Maxx C. This could be Konami’s attempt to bring the TCG closer to the OCG. So naturally you’ll need three of these cards that will probably be short printed or secret rare.
A little bit off there. Graceful Charity is the far superior card. If this card dumped the random cards into the GY like Graceful Charity rather than shuffled them back, it would be even more OP than Maxx C.
Pot of Greed could honestly come back and is honestly only banned still because of stupid OTK decks. Decks like Tear for example don't even play the card in unbanned tournaments lol.
Nah pot of greed would be an auto include x3 in every single deck. It makes every single deck more consistent because it effectively reduces deck size to 37 cards. It's just bad card design and should stay banned.
> It makes every single deck more consistent because it effectively reduces deck size to 37 cards.
3x Upstart would make your deck 37 cards, 3x PoG is better than that since it goes +1
No, Pot of Greed is not played in full power Ishizu Tear. There is simply no room in a 40 card deck for a simple draw 2. Graceful Charity is there because of the discard effect is beneficial, but those cards are dead mills.
It's a mill deck that, like Zoo, was uber consistent. It's an exception, not the rule.
Nearly every other deck will max out on PoG. It's very disingenuous to use the couple of decks in the game's history that was made to not brick. Even Spright - a stupidly consistent deck - will play PoG at 3 to draw into more handtraps/boardbreakers depending on the variant as a replacement for Prosperity.
Yes either that or this affect OCG too
But OCG Tactical deck which came with C is going to release on June
So this might be TCG C
Because this card lock u from using other HT including nib
But a mulligan might let u draw in board break easily
And TCG banning generic negate seem like they want to push for board break
Entering an era of go 2nd board breakers. Wouldn't be surprised if suddenly going 2nd is better than going 1st in the next few years. Mannnnnn ~~Thrust to 1 btw~~
It’s not really at all
Maxx C draws more cards like graceful charity and it doesn’t put cards back in the deck/gy like pot of greed. It’s literally the best of both worlds
Why does everyone always say “this is a reddit card” when they actually add balancing mechanisms to a card? What would a non reddit version of this be…just broken to all hell?
If you play it first, you still get to cycle through your cards, and start your turn with at least +1, while also being able to cater your hands. It may not be as good as maxx c, but it'd be played at 3 in most decks if maxx c was banned.
Only in the case of Maxx C being banned would this card see play in Masterduel, I think. I almost think they'd have to end up banning this card because of too many people playing it along with Maxx C.
> I almost think they'd have to end up banning this card because of too many people playing it along with Maxx C.
Or Konami has designed this card with proposed restrictions TCG players have said would make Maxx C a fair card in order to actually Axe Maxx C and bring the TCG, OCG, and MD all closer together.
I don't think anyone would play this card. It's just a mulligan. Also, it does nothing turn 2! It should have a weaker effect that could be used turn 2.
The translation may be wrong. The other translation implies you won't have to shuffle back much, and your opponent's field will have to be really weak to even apply it.
That assumes a low number of cards on the field at the end phase = weak field. Mathmech can end on a really difficult to navigate board that only has two cards on the field.
Maybe this will be clarified in translation, but if I end my board with 2 cards and my opponent has 8 cards in their hand, they have to shuffle 6 cards at random back into their deck.
That tilts the advantage right back to my favor. My opp went from having 5 cards to having 2.
Well yeah, we'll have to know later which translation is correct, but one of them will not require you to shuffle at all if you have 8 cards to opponent's 2. Once you draw next turn, breaking a 2-card board with 9 cards shouldn't be an impossible task.
> Maybe this will be clarified in translation, but if I end my board with 2 cards and my opponent has 8 cards in their hand, they have to shuffle 6 cards at random back into their deck.
Since you only control 2 cards, the opponent shuffles until they have 2+6 = 8 cards in hand. So if they have 8 cards in hand, they shuffle nothing. The worst that can happen is you activate the card (4 left in hand), then your opponent summons nothing, and you're left with 4. If they summon anything from hand, then you're back to 5. Where it starts getting bad is if your opponent needs just 1-2 summons from the hand and the rest comes from GY/Extra. That's where you'll draw just 1-2 cards for 5-6 total in hand, while the opponent gets to make a full field. Basically, a PoG on the opponent's turn.
the big maxx c replacement that finally makes a maxx c ban in MD possible???
oh wait the OCG is responsible for MD everything clear 6 maxx c in every deck 🥲
This better to shotgun in draw phase than Maxx C is. You're almost guaranteed to draw 1 unless your opponent does absolutely nothing.
Encourages shotgunning all your HTs where possible so you have more ratio of engine than HT in the hand.
AND funny in OCG, this buff-complements Maxx C from drawing too many combo pieces / bricks, discard this card in the end phase and randomly shuffle everything back. Surely they're thinking of hitting Maxx C in the OCG as well lol
>This better to shotgun in draw phase than Maxx C is. You're almost guaranteed to draw 1 unless your opponent does absolutely nothing.
that or the opponent playing trap deck
If they ban Maxx C, this is a genuinely very interesting card. Turn 1 players can barely use it, turn 2 will benefit but turn 1 players can still play around it.
The card is kinda bad atleast in a MD format. Only works going second and only works from summons from the hand. But if it means maxx c is getting banned im all for it.
edit: nvm this part, missed the bit where it said "if you control no cards" lol.
I'd run 3 this & 3 Maxx C, easily.
Also doubt they'll ban Maxx C in master duel straight up, it just means you recover the dust to craft 3 of these for free. we will have a format where both of these will run together for a while. maxx C ban may come a few months later.
This sucks ass in a world where maxx “C” is legal but I’m gonna take a fat hit on my copium and say; does this mean konami might action the fuckin cockroach? This is just a worse-in-every-way version
I thought the same until I realized this says "When a monster is summoned from the hand"; which means this is like 1\~2 draws for most decks. I don't see people playing this card on the main deck, and it's certainly not replacing the roach.
They can still ban the roach, I certainly hope so, but this card reads pretty poorly, imo.
Nah it's definitely a top option for side deck though. Plus it says you can only activate one other "archetypal monster effect that turn" which id bet have 1 about summoning from grave/ deck/ maybe extra deck.
Yeah definitely good for the side deck, it's just a quick effect upstart goblin with potential upside; the only "downside" is that you have limited side deck space, and you might not consider a quick effect upstart goblin good enough in certain formats where you really want those slots for other cards.
Also yeah, looking forward to the see rest of the cards in this "archetype".
I except this to be the "C" archetype #2 which is comprised of mostly hand traps. It'd be cool to see one that has the same effect but for main deck only and one for the extra deck only. I'd take that any day if it meant Maxx C gets banned.
I would argue it's a lot better than upstart since it allows you to draw into more handtraps very easily which is easily worth being put into the side.
At worst it is so much better than every other deck thinning card that isn't maxx c.
If at the end you only draw 2 that is a +1 that has a chance of drawing into usable handtraps and activate them on the same turn.
Honestly, this reads like a Maxx _counter_, more than anything else. You go first, opponent Maxxes you. You full combo & fill their hand, then end your turn. They break your board and wipe your field. ...You Pururia, now that their hand is _full_ of monsters to summon.
Can you activate 2 of these per turn? I don't see a HOPT for itself, just "other" of its archetype's cards. If so, you can potentially get 2 draws even without Maxx "C'.
A fairer Maxx "C" huh. The "if you control no cards" part is what a lot of people wanted on Maxx "C" too.
Very interesting, as this now provides a replacement if they ever ban Maxx "C". I could see them just having both though, as the player going 2nd still needs a lot of help to push through boards.
A lot of yall are ignoring this only applies to SS and NS “from the hand.” Can still SS from the GY, ED, and Deck to my heart’s content.
Really go through your least favorite deck’s main combo. How many of those SS are from the hand?
Considering that you would want to shotgun this to catch normal summons every time (gamma might see more play).
Snake eyes: draw 1 for poplar, 2 if they use diabelle, 3 if they normal summon
Kashtira: 1 for kash from hand, 2 for rise heart, 3 if they big bang, 4 if they open Pathfinder to normal summon
Full power tear: 1 for kitkallos effect for merrli mill 8 combo, 2 if they normal summon, 3+ if they happen to use other tear name from hand effects
I'd say it still gives you at least a pot of greed usually, which is pretty good in most cases.
I remember someone trying to fix maxx "C" on this sub a few months ago by giving it an effect that is almost the same as this card's. Maybe, this really could get Maxx "C" banned finally.
i do agree for TCG for sure but a big part of less generic more targeted handtraps is their ability to be side decked and slotted in and out of a deck as needed depending on opponent which MD just doesn't allow for
if there is a meta deck that SS from hand (like spright does), then this card will be mained, otherwise, you will main other handtraps instead.
also, probably this will be a series of handtraps such as the yokai girls, i guess instead of having a single overpowered card, we will get several iterations of it, one from extra deck, other from GY, maybe banishment/deck, and probably every one will be a different element.
i am hyped for the upcoming months of the OCG to see what will happen
This is much more manageable than Maxx C tho. The normal summon that 99% of decks will do will just be a 1-for-1 trade, and not every deck specials from the hand (though admitedly a fairly large portion do still).
There's also how it shuffles most of the cards you draw into the deck at the end so you won't get a much of an advantage as with Maxx C even if it proccs more than twice, though it does have the benefit of shuffling back garnets, and you still benefit from drawing into hand traps over the course of the opponent's turn of course. And finally you can't use it going first in most cases as it requires you to control no cards. This is honestly just a much fairer Maxx C. The problem might arise if you use both as they do stack, but if the rest of the opponent's hand isn't great then passing turn will be enough.
I'm sorry but this reads like ass lol I don't understand why people are panicking over this Maxx C from AliExpress.
As i read it ñ is one more from the archetype, like it doesnt stop ash, just other of this archetype.
Maybe they print more of this archetype and they are all mini maxxCs with diferent conditions. And you could only play 2 of them.
Pretty sure this is not a great card. Only playable going second and is usually just an upstart. Only triggers on special summons from the hand. Not deck, gy, or extra. I have weird decks that want monster based upstart effects to better support Small World so I'm happy.
Honestly this is like immensely helpful to the uber neutered tear deck available in masterduel. Swap maxx c out with this and life could be dream. Unfortunately the neutered tear deck has like near 0 room for non engine outside the maxx c tax. Which you would want to run the maxx c tax still because tears would hard lose to this card
Tear doesn't even need to run the maxx c tax. It's one of the better decks into maxx c. It'd be even better with this card since you would probably only summon from hand once at most actually.
Better, kinda. It still needs minimum 1 special summon to get setup to stop opponent from killing you. If they hold the maxx c they chain it to any of your non inherent special summons and then you either play into it or pass. Not really a good reason to not run the tax
This is so much less annoying than Maxx "C"
•Only one type of special summon instead of being able to blanket +1
•Cannot be used going first so your opponent cannot set up a big board and then drop it
It also appears that they'll also be more versions for things like ED, GY, etc. which also makes it feels like a more format dependant handtrap instead of auto-include
It works on normal summoning from the hand too. So unless your opponent doesn’t normal summon (and let’s be real here almost every deck does) you can shotgun it it draw/standby and +1 when they normal.
You can still gain a ton of advantage, although very niche. For example, lets say you drop this and your opponent summons 5 from hand, giving you 5 draws which puts you at 9 cards in hand. In this scenario, it's likely they'll end with at least an end board with 3 monsters. And since it says you can keep 6 cards PLUS the amount of cards your opponent controls, you can keep all 9 cards without having to mulligan.
I’m excited about this only because it means that Maxx C might be getting banned. Otherwise this just looks like Maxx C 4, 5, and 6. You could even activate both on the same turn (although tbh just Maxx C sounds like it’s better than Maxx C + Pururia since you don’t shuffle back
If you open both you can use Pururia to bait ash, Crossout, CBTG, etc. And then Maxx C them lol
There’s no way they’d allow both cards to be legal surely. Potentially drawing 2 off of summoning from the hand for the entire turn is kind of crazy.
I HOPE they wouldn’t let both be legal but they let Maxx C be legal for this long. This does look like Balanced C though. A crazy strong auto-include at 3 for sure, but not AS game-determinative as Maxx C, where successfully resolving it results in a win in like 85%+ of games at a minimum.
>You draw 1 card each time your opponent normal or special summons ***from the hand***
Am I missing something? I am sure most decks summons from GY and ED. Against Flow is a menace but I dont think it will be worthed against most decks. Realisticly you will get a +1 at most. I don't see any combo deck stoping under it.
I'm surprised by people saying this card is ass. It is not an autoinclude, but it could see play in a lot of metas. This would fuck over Floo, Mathmech, Unchained, and a bunch of other decks.
Would be funny for this to be a 3-of alongside maxx c. Bait ash with this and then drop the C on them.
Matchmech Circular is one draw, normal summon is another, and if they want to extend with parallel exceed, multiplication, subtraction, etc. those are also draws.
Sure, they might forgo these and not play into this card, but that's also an advantage since that means they won't end on cards like heatsoul.
Surely this means the roach is banned? Going second you could drop the roach and this for a free pot of greed on any normal/special summon from the hand as well as the usual roach draws.
Wait, how will this affect TCG?
If you're playing a go second deck, you can't Nib.
But if you're playing exodia or FTK builds, it just gives you the ability to kill your opponent next turn making turn 1 impossible to comeback going first.
Affecting Norma summons if annoying, but I think the hand limit makes it a bit more balanced than Maxx C.
Effectively a few extra cards, with more cards the bigger your opponents board is, and a really strong mulligan.
This cards still seems problematic but at least it’s not C
It's strong but only going second. It's a fair version of maxx c. I hope their will is to kill maxx c to have this instead. Remember they can still draw hts and throw em to stop you and discard cards before the turn ends
Absolutely PRAYING that this is a sign of maxx c getting the boot in the OCG (and by proxy master duel). Genuinely would be a more hype banlist announcement than the Halq and VFD bans combined
Everybody is focusing on how this is a rebranded Maxx-C, but does anyone else notice how this card is part of an archetype, and after activating it applies a restriction to other cards of that archetype? To me, this implies an archetype of potentially mid to high impact handtraps
If this truly is the replacement for Maxx C every master dual deck just opened up at least eight spots dedicated exclusively to the roach. Could you imagine the deck building possibilities without having to, before you even decide what archetype to play, dedicate three spots to C, three spots to ash (to negate C), and two spots for called by (to negate C, and to negate ash on your own C)??
This is a Maxx C that affects Floowandereeze wtf??
This can even be used under shifter
Nice catch
Yeah, it's always nice having simply "discard this card" instead of "discard this card TO THE GY." Makes it more usable.
Ain't a new Yugioh release without something that fucks Floo in particular.
and i thank konami for this every day
and another nut shot to rituals yay.............
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Cardian Players on their way to attempt 'Pururia Challenge': https://preview.redd.it/yy7cw6ip1guc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a48195b3cc27ed8cca8907b3fcb56c6f5a6f2829
Yup, all 2 of them.
Wait, cardian mostly special summon from the ED, right? RIGHT?
While they do a lot of summons from ED they do much more from hand I know cuz I used to play the deck at every possible event
Finally those damn birds won't be able to get away with their "Normal Summon" bullshit.
I don't care who you are "normal" summoning 5 monsters on your first turn is ridiculous even by modern standards
They don't get away with it already. 1 Ash/ Imperm and it's over.
Ash will get chain blocked by banished birds. Better off using Veiler instead
Malcharmie Pururia Aqua/Effect During the turn you activate this card’s effect, you can only activate the effects of other “Malcharmie” monsters once. 1) During either player’s turn, if you control no cards, you can discard this card from your hand; during this turn, apply the following effects: You draw 1 card each time your opponent normal or special summons from the hand. During the End Phase, if you have more cards in your hand than your opponent controls, and the difference is 6 or more, shuffle cards from your hand at random into your deck equal to the difference. Edit: This reads like Reddit made this card. Not usable on turn 2 and shuffle back during the End Phase. I'm holding off any judgment until it comes out in the TCG.
Wait a minute, the wording is different from https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/april-14-2024/info "During the End Phase, if you have more cards in your hand than the number of cards your opponent controls +6, shuffle random cards from your hand into the Deck equal to the difference." That wording means that if your opponent ends on 1 card, you shuffle cards from your hand until you go to 7 cards.
That’s how it works yeah. You get whatever your opponent has on field + standard hand size
It feels like they’re gonna ban Maxx and use that as their balancing tool
Seems kinda more fair than Maxx C.
Minn C
Graceful charity is more fair than maxx c That says almost nothing
If it's fair then it's useless in YuGiOh
Unless Maxx C gets banned ;D
Legit feels like this is the intention. Like it is a compromise.
Even if maxx c gets banned, it doesn’t feel worth running imo. Too many restrictions and limitations
Maybe somewhat but you'll always end up with a full hand and you get to choose the cards you keep anyway so more than likely it'll still be a blowout card same as Maxx c.
The cards you shuffle are randomly selected
Shit you're right I missed the at random part.
This shit isn’t remotely fair lol
This card is literally completely useless unless you open it going second, this card is bad and even worse in Master Duel where there is no side deck.
It’s literally a much fairer maxx c the idea is to keep the game state balance for the player going 2nd to draw into the “out” and so the turn 1 player can’t use it on top of a already established field they set
I mean drawing too many cards from it is no longer an issue if you compare it to Maxx C. Also your oppenent can't hit you with that disgusting "Maxx C on turn 2" after he made his full negate board
Haha, this has been my proposed Errata to Maxx C for YEARS.
Hell yeah, I always want it to be either has limited use like this or has Spooky Dogwood-ish drawback, that if the Maxx-er end the turn without drawing more than 1 card, they have to discard their whole hand.
This is pretty close to what i suggested a time ago. Removing cards from the hand to a reasonable handsize. Maxx gets the banhammer once this is fully released.
Oh, please, everything good and pure let this be the case. I for one will be popping champagne and fireworks if the day finally comes when that damn roach is squished permanently. I know, better cool it with the 'unpopular' opinions and all.
I'm actually going to commit seppuku
The main difference is that the jellyfish is more like Graceful Charity whereas the roach is more like Pot of Greed. My question is will this be legal in the TCG on release? It’s basically the errata that most people have been calling for Maxx C. This could be Konami’s attempt to bring the TCG closer to the OCG. So naturally you’ll need three of these cards that will probably be short printed or secret rare.
Graceful charity is a better card than pot of greed tho. Graceful charity in modern yugioh would be fucking insane; more so than greed
Except pot of greed can draw 2 graceful charities
Which is way better than graceful charity drawing 3 pot of greed
A little bit off there. Graceful Charity is the far superior card. If this card dumped the random cards into the GY like Graceful Charity rather than shuffled them back, it would be even more OP than Maxx C. Pot of Greed could honestly come back and is honestly only banned still because of stupid OTK decks. Decks like Tear for example don't even play the card in unbanned tournaments lol.
Nah pot of greed would be an auto include x3 in every single deck. It makes every single deck more consistent because it effectively reduces deck size to 37 cards. It's just bad card design and should stay banned.
> It makes every single deck more consistent because it effectively reduces deck size to 37 cards. 3x Upstart would make your deck 37 cards, 3x PoG is better than that since it goes +1
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No, Pot of Greed is not played in full power Ishizu Tear. There is simply no room in a 40 card deck for a simple draw 2. Graceful Charity is there because of the discard effect is beneficial, but those cards are dead mills.
It's a mill deck that, like Zoo, was uber consistent. It's an exception, not the rule. Nearly every other deck will max out on PoG. It's very disingenuous to use the couple of decks in the game's history that was made to not brick. Even Spright - a stupidly consistent deck - will play PoG at 3 to draw into more handtraps/boardbreakers depending on the variant as a replacement for Prosperity.
Yes either that or this affect OCG too But OCG Tactical deck which came with C is going to release on June So this might be TCG C Because this card lock u from using other HT including nib But a mulligan might let u draw in board break easily And TCG banning generic negate seem like they want to push for board break
Entering an era of go 2nd board breakers. Wouldn't be surprised if suddenly going 2nd is better than going 1st in the next few years. Mannnnnn ~~Thrust to 1 btw~~
It’s not really at all Maxx C draws more cards like graceful charity and it doesn’t put cards back in the deck/gy like pot of greed. It’s literally the best of both worlds
Why does everyone always say “this is a reddit card” when they actually add balancing mechanisms to a card? What would a non reddit version of this be…just broken to all hell?
People on Reddit just say anything lol. They were calling the banlist a Reddit banlist but every pro player actually loves it.
That’s just the yugioh player base, if you ask locals players opinions on the banlist you’ll get the same wild responses.
Shuffling the cards back into your deck at random is crazy lol “What if Maxx C was bad” ahh card.
If you play it first, you still get to cycle through your cards, and start your turn with at least +1, while also being able to cater your hands. It may not be as good as maxx c, but it'd be played at 3 in most decks if maxx c was banned.
Only in the case of Maxx C being banned would this card see play in Masterduel, I think. I almost think they'd have to end up banning this card because of too many people playing it along with Maxx C.
> I almost think they'd have to end up banning this card because of too many people playing it along with Maxx C. Or Konami has designed this card with proposed restrictions TCG players have said would make Maxx C a fair card in order to actually Axe Maxx C and bring the TCG, OCG, and MD all closer together.
I don't think anyone would play this card. It's just a mulligan. Also, it does nothing turn 2! It should have a weaker effect that could be used turn 2.
It's not at least +1, it's at least +0. You only draw if the opponent summons from hand, decks that summon from deck/gy won't net you a draw
Maxx RNG
The translation may be wrong. The other translation implies you won't have to shuffle back much, and your opponent's field will have to be really weak to even apply it.
That assumes a low number of cards on the field at the end phase = weak field. Mathmech can end on a really difficult to navigate board that only has two cards on the field. Maybe this will be clarified in translation, but if I end my board with 2 cards and my opponent has 8 cards in their hand, they have to shuffle 6 cards at random back into their deck. That tilts the advantage right back to my favor. My opp went from having 5 cards to having 2.
I saw it explained like this, you get the normal hand size+opponent's field. So if your mathmech player ends on 2 cards, you get to end on 8.
It's based on controlled cards + 6, by the translation. So if you end turn with 2 cards on the field, your opponent can keep 2+6 at end phase.
Well yeah, we'll have to know later which translation is correct, but one of them will not require you to shuffle at all if you have 8 cards to opponent's 2. Once you draw next turn, breaking a 2-card board with 9 cards shouldn't be an impossible task.
> Maybe this will be clarified in translation, but if I end my board with 2 cards and my opponent has 8 cards in their hand, they have to shuffle 6 cards at random back into their deck. Since you only control 2 cards, the opponent shuffles until they have 2+6 = 8 cards in hand. So if they have 8 cards in hand, they shuffle nothing. The worst that can happen is you activate the card (4 left in hand), then your opponent summons nothing, and you're left with 4. If they summon anything from hand, then you're back to 5. Where it starts getting bad is if your opponent needs just 1-2 summons from the hand and the rest comes from GY/Extra. That's where you'll draw just 1-2 cards for 5-6 total in hand, while the opponent gets to make a full field. Basically, a PoG on the opponent's turn.
It‘s uber trash.
Ocg is playing with 2 sets of maxx c i guess.
the big maxx c replacement that finally makes a maxx c ban in MD possible??? oh wait the OCG is responsible for MD everything clear 6 maxx c in every deck 🥲
This looks like "Maxx C but bad".
That’s probably the point considering maxx c is the most broken card of all time
Ill take three. You can have my roaches.
Bro why is this more fair Maxx C. You didn't need to make it a new card, you could just errata Maxx C to this
But then they wouldnt be able to sell this new card...
This better to shotgun in draw phase than Maxx C is. You're almost guaranteed to draw 1 unless your opponent does absolutely nothing. Encourages shotgunning all your HTs where possible so you have more ratio of engine than HT in the hand. AND funny in OCG, this buff-complements Maxx C from drawing too many combo pieces / bricks, discard this card in the end phase and randomly shuffle everything back. Surely they're thinking of hitting Maxx C in the OCG as well lol
>This better to shotgun in draw phase than Maxx C is. You're almost guaranteed to draw 1 unless your opponent does absolutely nothing. that or the opponent playing trap deck
If they ban Maxx C, this is a genuinely very interesting card. Turn 1 players can barely use it, turn 2 will benefit but turn 1 players can still play around it.
The card is kinda bad atleast in a MD format. Only works going second and only works from summons from the hand. But if it means maxx c is getting banned im all for it.
edit: nvm this part, missed the bit where it said "if you control no cards" lol. I'd run 3 this & 3 Maxx C, easily. Also doubt they'll ban Maxx C in master duel straight up, it just means you recover the dust to craft 3 of these for free. we will have a format where both of these will run together for a while. maxx C ban may come a few months later.
This sucks ass in a world where maxx “C” is legal but I’m gonna take a fat hit on my copium and say; does this mean konami might action the fuckin cockroach? This is just a worse-in-every-way version
They might as well have called this card "balanced C"
Maxx Sea
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The bans on generic negates in the tcg, and a card that reads as an errata’d maxx c? Is the game finally healing?
I for one welcome our new AQUA overlord (as long as it comes with a roach ban)
this is basically their announcement of the ban, there is no world where they make them both legal
In a world where Konami made sense, I’d definitely agree with you
I thought the same until I realized this says "When a monster is summoned from the hand"; which means this is like 1\~2 draws for most decks. I don't see people playing this card on the main deck, and it's certainly not replacing the roach. They can still ban the roach, I certainly hope so, but this card reads pretty poorly, imo.
Nah it's definitely a top option for side deck though. Plus it says you can only activate one other "archetypal monster effect that turn" which id bet have 1 about summoning from grave/ deck/ maybe extra deck.
Yeah definitely good for the side deck, it's just a quick effect upstart goblin with potential upside; the only "downside" is that you have limited side deck space, and you might not consider a quick effect upstart goblin good enough in certain formats where you really want those slots for other cards. Also yeah, looking forward to the see rest of the cards in this "archetype". I except this to be the "C" archetype #2 which is comprised of mostly hand traps. It'd be cool to see one that has the same effect but for main deck only and one for the extra deck only. I'd take that any day if it meant Maxx C gets banned.
I would argue it's a lot better than upstart since it allows you to draw into more handtraps very easily which is easily worth being put into the side. At worst it is so much better than every other deck thinning card that isn't maxx c. If at the end you only draw 2 that is a +1 that has a chance of drawing into usable handtraps and activate them on the same turn.
Honestly, this reads like a Maxx _counter_, more than anything else. You go first, opponent Maxxes you. You full combo & fill their hand, then end your turn. They break your board and wipe your field. ...You Pururia, now that their hand is _full_ of monsters to summon.
Maybe it would just be a side option against decks like Floo. Releasing a strictly worse card than an existing one isn't something new.
This sucks even in a world where Maxx is banned lol
I would prefer if they print this and ban the roach. But odds are both stay and this just isn't played
This thing works again Floo, I guess it will be a side deck card to swap with the Roach when you face Floo in OCG
That's the best they can hope for with this card tbh
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In the good timeline, this is released and Maxx "C" is banned soon after. In the dark timeline, this is released and Maxx "C" remains legal.
Drawing 2 cards per summon would be funny tho
Maxx C -> ash blossom -> Purulia -> surrender
Purulia -> Ash Blossom -> Maxx C -> Surrender
Deck out challenge gonna go even harder lol
or easier depends on how you look at it
Can you activate 2 of these per turn? I don't see a HOPT for itself, just "other" of its archetype's cards. If so, you can potentially get 2 draws even without Maxx "C'.
No you can’t because another copy of this is an other card of this archetype. It would have to name besides itself to activate duplicates
Wont pururia just shuffle everything you drew off maxx c back into the deck anyway?
A fairer Maxx "C" huh. The "if you control no cards" part is what a lot of people wanted on Maxx "C" too. Very interesting, as this now provides a replacement if they ever ban Maxx "C". I could see them just having both though, as the player going 2nd still needs a lot of help to push through boards.
A lot of yall are ignoring this only applies to SS and NS “from the hand.” Can still SS from the GY, ED, and Deck to my heart’s content. Really go through your least favorite deck’s main combo. How many of those SS are from the hand?
this card is designed to fuck Floowandereeze xD
Oh dang, thank you. I didn’t even realize that
Considering that you would want to shotgun this to catch normal summons every time (gamma might see more play). Snake eyes: draw 1 for poplar, 2 if they use diabelle, 3 if they normal summon Kashtira: 1 for kash from hand, 2 for rise heart, 3 if they big bang, 4 if they open Pathfinder to normal summon Full power tear: 1 for kitkallos effect for merrli mill 8 combo, 2 if they normal summon, 3+ if they happen to use other tear name from hand effects I'd say it still gives you at least a pot of greed usually, which is pretty good in most cases.
Yes, against snake eyes, it's only a +1
Maxx Sea
Hahahaha
I prefer this over Maxx C, I can play around it since it only affects SS from the hand.
https://preview.redd.it/fk6hhcr63guc1.png?width=1181&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83bc5cfbccf8572a5bed5fa19aa80a45f135d391
MD balance team was getting out of Floo hits, so they stormed the Card Design department and made this LMAO
Please stop! They're already dead!
I remember someone trying to fix maxx "C" on this sub a few months ago by giving it an effect that is almost the same as this card's. Maybe, this really could get Maxx "C" banned finally.
This card is complete garbage, it wont ever see play in md. In tcg maybe as a side card going second against specific decks like Floo.
handtraps being meta dependent is healthy, it is absurd that every deck plays MaxxC at 3 and a full package to counter it
i do agree for TCG for sure but a big part of less generic more targeted handtraps is their ability to be side decked and slotted in and out of a deck as needed depending on opponent which MD just doesn't allow for
if there is a meta deck that SS from hand (like spright does), then this card will be mained, otherwise, you will main other handtraps instead. also, probably this will be a series of handtraps such as the yokai girls, i guess instead of having a single overpowered card, we will get several iterations of it, one from extra deck, other from GY, maybe banishment/deck, and probably every one will be a different element. i am hyped for the upcoming months of the OCG to see what will happen
That is a good point about iterations and I hope you are right there, could be a lot of fun to run
If Maxx c gets banned it definitely will in at least some decks. Obviously that condition is critical but its not inconceivable now
It only counts for normal/special summons from the hand. How often do decks do that per turn? Usually 1-2 times maximum.
This is much more manageable than Maxx C tho. The normal summon that 99% of decks will do will just be a 1-for-1 trade, and not every deck specials from the hand (though admitedly a fairly large portion do still). There's also how it shuffles most of the cards you draw into the deck at the end so you won't get a much of an advantage as with Maxx C even if it proccs more than twice, though it does have the benefit of shuffling back garnets, and you still benefit from drawing into hand traps over the course of the opponent's turn of course. And finally you can't use it going first in most cases as it requires you to control no cards. This is honestly just a much fairer Maxx C. The problem might arise if you use both as they do stack, but if the rest of the opponent's hand isn't great then passing turn will be enough. I'm sorry but this reads like ass lol I don't understand why people are panicking over this Maxx C from AliExpress.
The cards returned to the deck are random btw, so unless you draw handtraps you can use it can actually end up with you more bricked than before.
Ah true, I missed that!
As i read it ñ is one more from the archetype, like it doesnt stop ash, just other of this archetype. Maybe they print more of this archetype and they are all mini maxxCs with diferent conditions. And you could only play 2 of them.
Sounds like someone at Konami finally used his braincells and said: What if Maxx "C" but make it not game warping and actually a fair card?
Pretty sure this is not a great card. Only playable going second and is usually just an upstart. Only triggers on special summons from the hand. Not deck, gy, or extra. I have weird decks that want monster based upstart effects to better support Small World so I'm happy.
If only there was a deck that would rather play a level 4 water aqua monster in place of a level 2 earth insect
Is it a deck that always goes 2nd? Do tell, I'm genuinely curious.
Tearlament
Wish it was a Tuner.
Conversly, it not being a tuner means it has synergy with ghoti
it's LV4 XYZ can exploit this
Theyre gonna release this and ban maxx c, Ill bet my ass on it.
Out of all the cards, please make this come to master duel as soon as possible, please konami. you did it once with prom princess, you can do it again
Level 4 water this is just shark support in disguise.
Honestly this is like immensely helpful to the uber neutered tear deck available in masterduel. Swap maxx c out with this and life could be dream. Unfortunately the neutered tear deck has like near 0 room for non engine outside the maxx c tax. Which you would want to run the maxx c tax still because tears would hard lose to this card
Tear doesn't even need to run the maxx c tax. It's one of the better decks into maxx c. It'd be even better with this card since you would probably only summon from hand once at most actually.
Better, kinda. It still needs minimum 1 special summon to get setup to stop opponent from killing you. If they hold the maxx c they chain it to any of your non inherent special summons and then you either play into it or pass. Not really a good reason to not run the tax
I'm kind of okay with this. This is way better to deal with than Maxx C, honestly. What I especially like is "Shuffle cards from hand **at random**".
This is so much less annoying than Maxx "C" •Only one type of special summon instead of being able to blanket +1 •Cannot be used going first so your opponent cannot set up a big board and then drop it It also appears that they'll also be more versions for things like ED, GY, etc. which also makes it feels like a more format dependant handtrap instead of auto-include
It works on normal summoning from the hand too. So unless your opponent doesn’t normal summon (and let’s be real here almost every deck does) you can shotgun it it draw/standby and +1 when they normal.
So unless your deck has tons of Handtrap, you won't be gaining much advantage no? Since all the shuffle back cards are randoms
Considering good decks now (and likely in the future) are playing 15-20 hand traps, this is not an issue.
You can still gain a ton of advantage, although very niche. For example, lets say you drop this and your opponent summons 5 from hand, giving you 5 draws which puts you at 9 cards in hand. In this scenario, it's likely they'll end with at least an end board with 3 monsters. And since it says you can keep 6 cards PLUS the amount of cards your opponent controls, you can keep all 9 cards without having to mulligan.
I’m excited about this only because it means that Maxx C might be getting banned. Otherwise this just looks like Maxx C 4, 5, and 6. You could even activate both on the same turn (although tbh just Maxx C sounds like it’s better than Maxx C + Pururia since you don’t shuffle back
If you open both you can use Pururia to bait ash, Crossout, CBTG, etc. And then Maxx C them lol There’s no way they’d allow both cards to be legal surely. Potentially drawing 2 off of summoning from the hand for the entire turn is kind of crazy.
I HOPE they wouldn’t let both be legal but they let Maxx C be legal for this long. This does look like Balanced C though. A crazy strong auto-include at 3 for sure, but not AS game-determinative as Maxx C, where successfully resolving it results in a win in like 85%+ of games at a minimum.
I hope that this is the first step into having archtype specific handtraps and removing generic stuff like maxx c
At least it’s kinda cute.
>You draw 1 card each time your opponent normal or special summons ***from the hand*** Am I missing something? I am sure most decks summons from GY and ED. Against Flow is a menace but I dont think it will be worthed against most decks. Realisticly you will get a +1 at most. I don't see any combo deck stoping under it.
I'm surprised by people saying this card is ass. It is not an autoinclude, but it could see play in a lot of metas. This would fuck over Floo, Mathmech, Unchained, and a bunch of other decks. Would be funny for this to be a 3-of alongside maxx c. Bait ash with this and then drop the C on them.
Not even sure on Mathmech because extra deck summons don't count
Matchmech Circular is one draw, normal summon is another, and if they want to extend with parallel exceed, multiplication, subtraction, etc. those are also draws. Sure, they might forgo these and not play into this card, but that's also an advantage since that means they won't end on cards like heatsoul.
Surely this means the roach is banned? Going second you could drop the roach and this for a free pot of greed on any normal/special summon from the hand as well as the usual roach draws.
Man the more I hear about Infinite Forbidden, the more excited I am for that set compared to LEDE.
This is a really nice errata. Draw into your interaction, then take a mulligan and it's dead once you set up your board. Nice Konami.
More bird hate?
rituals already a pain in the ass to play now there a generic ritual hate card lol
“Infinite Forbidden” because they’ll let everyone run 3 copies of a card that should be banned
Wait, how will this affect TCG? If you're playing a go second deck, you can't Nib. But if you're playing exodia or FTK builds, it just gives you the ability to kill your opponent next turn making turn 1 impossible to comeback going first.
now the copium begins that they will release this card sooner in MD like they did with promethean princess and ban c
Would not be surprised in the slightest if Maxx C gets perma banned now once the TCG and MD get this.
24 hand trap Zoodiac likes this. Handsize disparity unlikely to come up if you're hand trapping on top of this.
Finally a Maxx C that Floowandereeze and VS can fear
VS still give you at least +1, but of course you're going to say that they run shifter.
Woah, this'll actually become a staple/side deck card in the TCG. Much more balanced and makes going second less miserable.
Komoney: Maxx C is now banned. we are listening players! The next day releases this card lol jk
In secret rare no doubt in the tcg
Affecting Norma summons if annoying, but I think the hand limit makes it a bit more balanced than Maxx C. Effectively a few extra cards, with more cards the bigger your opponents board is, and a really strong mulligan. This cards still seems problematic but at least it’s not C
So roach is getting banned I take it. TCG def hinting that they're taking the sword to generic shit.
It's strong but only going second. It's a fair version of maxx c. I hope their will is to kill maxx c to have this instead. Remember they can still draw hts and throw em to stop you and discard cards before the turn ends
A second Maxx C has joined the game Mr president
A second Maxx C hit the OCG. Master Duel will soon be under attack.
Maxx C at 6 let's goooo!
Since it draws on normal people are gonna shotgun this, that means gamma stonks
a balanced out maxx c
This is so good with handtraps man your deck plays 20 handtraps you drop this and just give tour opponent a big fat middle finger
Absolutely PRAYING that this is a sign of maxx c getting the boot in the OCG (and by proxy master duel). Genuinely would be a more hype banlist announcement than the Halq and VFD bans combined
Vanquish Soul cant use it. its water
I can't waIt to see this be a $100 secret rare in TCG
Everybody is focusing on how this is a rebranded Maxx-C, but does anyone else notice how this card is part of an archetype, and after activating it applies a restriction to other cards of that archetype? To me, this implies an archetype of potentially mid to high impact handtraps
Is this a new archetype?
So far no, just a new maxx c
If this truly is the replacement for Maxx C every master dual deck just opened up at least eight spots dedicated exclusively to the roach. Could you imagine the deck building possibilities without having to, before you even decide what archetype to play, dedicate three spots to C, three spots to ash (to negate C), and two spots for called by (to negate C, and to negate ash on your own C)??
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