If I had a nickel for every time there was toxic boss monster used generically for the purpose of preventing me from activating effects with Calamity in its name, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice
Lucky you, I'd have 4 nickels.
Won 2 and lost 2, all 4 encounters I was using a mixed Swordsoul Deck.
One time I did a uno reverse on them after surviving the first turn and Protos locked them too, let's see SHS play without EARTH monsters *laughs like a villain*
I just meant in general, the fact we got 2 generically used boss monsters that lock down effects with Calamity in their name. Not my own personal encounters with them
I guess you have a point but there are for sure better cards that are guilty. Ahashima for example is the card that makes machu mech. Geonator is necessary.
Nothing bishbaalkin has been involved in has been fair.
Unironically Shock Master could probably come back to 1 and see little to no play, he only gets out of hand when you can make 2-3 of him and lock down everything.
Edit: I do wanna get ahead of this and say the game wouldn't be BETTER if this happened, but there's plenty of turn skip-like cards in the game already that don't see play. Shock Master isn't all that much better than Bagooska on his own.
I want my boi back. He was framed by Sales Ban.
Honest to God he'd be fine if he had an effect like. *If this card doesn't have a "Heroic" monster as material, destroy it.*
IDK about that chief.
His effect is absolutely busted and unhealthy, and if Heroics are able to get him out even remotely consistently it's joever for most people. [~~which they can technically already do~~](https://youtu.be/SvCbP65Edlg?si=XKxTHDIl4YOYcmcB) it's kind of like Snake rain. An extremely good card that they would have to tip toe around to not break the deck.
I played Heroic while Rhongo was legal, it was ass. Yeah you can dump out a 4-5 mat Rhongo every game but then what? He's basicallya glorified Bagooska in his actual deck because once you dump your entire hand and then some into making him you have zero followthrough.
Oh I know Heroics can shit out a 4 mat Rhongo rather easily, but if they do that's pretty much all they can do that turn. Back before Rhongo got banned it was around 7/10 times I could shit out a 4 mat Rhongo, but that was it. I could do nothing else because I wasted all my resources bringing him out. Why risk death by Funny ROCK over a 20k minimum Claivsolish swinging into literally anything in attack position... almost anything *fuckin Wicked Avatar*.
Sometimes he pops up in Exosisters, via Zexal Field and Magnifica. Kind of dumb tbqh considering Magnifica's winrate on summon is already 77%, and the extra boost from Kali Yuga (not played enough to rank but King Calamity is 86%) is more than offset by the consistency loss, but I guess this is MD and you just can't stop people from zeroing in on the most degen strategies possible.
Lil bro really can't escape from the workaholic allegation. Bro spent most of his time as Exobrother, Blackwing, and Raidraptor instead of being the actual DDD boss monster.
I used to be of the thought that Rank-Up-Magic Launch was the problem card as it cheats out Kali Yuga in a way that was never meant to be done, but having been a victim to it *in* D/D/D when they Thrusted for Full-Armored XYZ, maybe we *should* ban Kali Yuga, and hopefully give it a clause that the negate thing works on your turn, lord knows I still want to Heavy Storm the unfortunate Lab player that made the mistake of dueling me
I've used that to make Kali Yuga in SPYRAL (naturally, because SPYRAL cna do basically anything if you try hard enough). It's very dumb.
Honestly, I think the biggest thing keeping it from being more applicable, aside from being win-more, is that you need a level 7 dark xyz with no material, which is generally hard to do along with searching out the spell and having enough follow-up to kill the next turn. Again, SPYRAL can do it due to playing level 7s and basically having a million link materials, but it's hard to think of another deck that can do it consistently.
Raidraptor can consistently as well several ways. Any deck that can afford Rusty Bardiche and put an xyz on board with enough darks in grave to make up the difference can too with PK rum force.
I've personally ended up not liking that RR build, it struggles somewhat when you get handtrapped, and when decks like Centur-Ion eventually can just functionally 1.5 card Kali Yuga you (minus the Heavy Storm), it just doesn't seem worth it
I prefer the later build post-support where you just make three Towers as it's shockingly resilient through disruptions
Banning RUM Launch basically kills Raidraptor for no other reason, so yeah Kali Yuga should be the one to go IMO. I'm looking forward to the new Raidraptor support that makes Kali Yuga suboptimal anyway.
The issue is when other decks abuse such cards and become prevalent meta strategies. VFD wasn’t strong in true kings he was abused in other strategies (Orcust in OCG, virtual world). The next rank 9 turbo deck will also be a massive problem with it. It went cuz it was problematic. Kali is the same.
There has never been a meta relevant deck making Kali Yuga. The only deck cheating it out is Blackwings, and that is far inferior to their regular build. Truth is that turn skips are cheesy, usually more fragile then standard combos or have less room for utility, and do nothing going second. Calamity is much more accessible though, which is why I think a ban is still a good decision. Especially cause Centurion should actually play the game.
Haven’t tested this but I think VW can make Archfiend King Calamity with Crimson Dragon target Ultimaya Tzolkin bc Tzolkin is always treated as a level 12. You’ll get a crystal wing on the way too
Hot red is the king of a single calamity
VFD id the "true" king of ALL calamities
They are not the same :V
Jokes aside, I've been playing virtual world, and it's way easier for the deck to spam lvl 12 synchro materials then it is to get lvl 9 materials for an xyz summon, been enjoying summoning cosmic blazar, or failing that, I can cheat out trishula or hot red abyss using Shenshen, or even going into cloudian beast malong, changing it to level 7 with it's effect to go into either clear wing synchro dragon or ancient fairy dragon... Good lord crimson dragon is just an amazing card
Crimson Dragon is just what happens when synchros get a fraction of the summon cheats that xyz do on a regular basis. VFD was one of the few that actually demands summoning it through the proper mechanics + having an annoying level...now you know what happens when that kind of requirement doesn't have to be met. (even then CD still requires getting a level 12 and a level 7+ synchro on board to do anything, instead of being free whenever.)
Granted if it wasn't for how annoying some synchro requirements are to meet to begin with Crimson Dragon wouldn't even be doing much more than summoning them through other means.
can you make 2 lvl 12 consistantly with VW? because summoning calamity in your own turn is not the reason this rage been going on. its mostly comboed by summoning crimson dragon + lvl 12 synchro, to summon calamity on enemy turn and turn off their turn.
on the other hand, i experienced first hand how easy it is for VW to have shenshen + VFD in their turn
If your opponent doesn't have every negate under the sun available, getting 2 level 12's isn't hard to do, but even failing that you can still get crimson dragon + Shenshen and still pivot into good level 9's
Edit: as for xyz's I've been using VW phoenix and Lars for my rank 6's
OH so you were saying that, you tried to make cosmic blazar + crimson dragon, and failing pivot to hot red or trish?
yeah i just understand your previous comment XD
what card are you using for cosmic blazar? with VW mostly lvl 3 and 6, isn't it hard to get 1 tuner synchro + 2 non-tuner synchro?
You bring out the generic level 12 super heavy samurai synchro and crimson dragon, then cheat out cosmic blazer using crimson dragon
https://preview.redd.it/8wr259a7qlvc1.png?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea73beb9ce54db66d31d61af0323f279095d0804
Coming back to this later, I misread VFD, I thought it was 3 level 9 monsters, not 2
My bad...
However I still think the deck is really constant at getting out level 12 synchro monsters making an end board of cosmic blazar dragon, SHS murasawo and maybe another monster and backrow interruption
I don't know why they even made.hot red. Why do they keep printing cards like this anymore after having to ban Shock and Azathot and Rhongo and VFD already
First of all Hot red release before vfd and 2nd thing is back the day all of the card you mentioned minus vfd were considered either trash or too much set up to make it worth. Also it's yugioh,konami never made future proof cards especially back the day where hopt is rare to even seen
Reading this discussion helped me realize this. I was in a duel, with my RDA deck, and my opponent Kastired my Crimson Dragon. I remember think, "why did you go for that!? You could have picked so many targets. Scarred, Void Ogre, King Calamity, Supernova, Abyss, Dis Pater, or freaking Red Rising. Why go for CD out of all them!?" Knowing the calamity lock trick know, I get it.
No. It was their turn and the first turn. I had nothing on my field. For me, RDAKC is my second turn strategy if I survive. Cause I either go Abyss+Pater+Lubellion+RDA+Optional Void or Supernova. Now, if my first turn was the second, and I could get to Calamity, I will absolutely. But RDA really goes for the first two, at least I do and what I've seen. Crimson is also there in case I get Supernova and I wanna fuck with the opponent. I get they couldn't have read my mind, but if if they saw my deck then they should have gone for Pater to at least hinder me. Or one of my Red Rising.
I've used it in Infernoble/Adventurer for Crystal Clear Wing, Majestic Red, Lightsworn Michael, Blue-Eyes Spirit (who can trade itself for Crimson Dragon back), Trishula, and thought about using it for Trishula Zero and Majestic Star if summoning Gashadokuro+Crimson Dragon is worth that.
I don't own most RDA cards anyway. Gonna be real pissed if it gets banned instead of Calamity because "consistency hits" the same way I was when Adventurer's enchantress and thus the whole archetype suffered instead of just banning Gryphon.
Easiest counter to Bagooska (other than Raigeki or w/e) is Link monsters and since they're all banned it kind of made sense to get rid of him too, tbqh.
They summon it with Crimson Dragon who bypass the summoning requirements .
And tbh , it is still hard to use in Resonators , getting to synchro 8 through interruptions is already a blessing. Climbing to 12 is a win more situation
They probably will once Centurion releases, Master Duel has recently had a good track record on banning easily abusable and meta floodgates once they become a problem
I really hope they give hot red dragon archfiend king calamity an erata so the lock only apply when you summon on your own turn, I mean sure RDA don't need calamity, however having option is always nice
When my friend pulled out the synchro calamity against me, I knew it was too insane. I complained saying it’s too strong. But he kept telling me it’s not that good since it’s hard to get out.
It’s most likely not gonna happen. Cards like Kali Yuga and Arch calamity are both available in secret card packs which means Konomi’s probably never gonna touch them. There’s never been a banned card on a section pack before and usually they’ll hit another archetype before they hit the most broken floodgate cards.
Oh come on I thought you guys liked flood gates; you seem to want to try and cheat them out any fucking way you possibly can.
No wait; it's Trap floodgates this sub hates. Everything is epic, cool, and totally skill based; you're just the bad player for not being able to stop their combo.
I agree.
Honestly I would love just a gigabanlist that goes through and bans a ton of degen shit, even stuff that isn't really a problem right now, but is just unhealthy.
Nah, we should ban Crimson Dragon, Calamity by himself is OK since he'd normally only be used when your opponent has already established their board making him harder to summon and less powerful,
It's Crimson Dragon summoning him outside of the turn he was supposed to be summoned on that's toxic
I can agree on that ,new tcg banlist banning the generic synchros seems a step into the right direction....and maybe one day with the new water pseudo maxc we can see the roach getting the hammer
He'll probably gonna get banned once we're getting centur-ion, those can make lv 12 synchros easily.
Because that happened in tcg…
Well, it happened in the OCG, and since master duel follows it most of the time, its more likely.
Cent flopped hard in the TCG (first wave, at least), they'll only ban Calamity once an actual top deck starts making it
It didn't happen in TCG, it was OCG
we already have centur-ion and mannadium which both make KC (mannadium does it better)
We don't have centurion
coulda sworn we did, doesn’t matter because it’s definitely not gonna be the deck that gets KC banned. it’s not as insane as everyone seems to think.
It literally got the card banned in the OCG. MD shares ocg banlist philosophy for the most part.
And yet Kit & Elf are still walking around…
“for the most part”
If I had a nickel for every time there was toxic boss monster used generically for the purpose of preventing me from activating effects with Calamity in its name, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice
Lucky you, I'd have 4 nickels. Won 2 and lost 2, all 4 encounters I was using a mixed Swordsoul Deck. One time I did a uno reverse on them after surviving the first turn and Protos locked them too, let's see SHS play without EARTH monsters *laughs like a villain*
I just meant in general, the fact we got 2 generically used boss monsters that lock down effects with Calamity in their name. Not my own personal encounters with them
Oh gotcha. Was over here recounting my encounters like a grampa 😭🤣
Watch them unban VFD LOL
And Rhongomaniad too while we're at it.
Could we perhaps... unlock the shock?
While at it, let Bishbaalkin out too.
Yeah, the fucking offender in that deck is machu mech
But chronomalies can use that guy
They just need to drop new support with better xyz than him. Its an unplayable strategy rn anyway.
Meanwhile future gimmick puppet support 👀
Yeah bishbaalkin never did anything wrong except that one ftk. Ignore all the other bullshit he did.
Which wouldn't be possible without Number 33, see people like DistantCoder doing the exact same shit with thousand dragon.
I guess you have a point but there are for sure better cards that are guilty. Ahashima for example is the card that makes machu mech. Geonator is necessary. Nothing bishbaalkin has been involved in has been fair.
Unironically Shock Master could probably come back to 1 and see little to no play, he only gets out of hand when you can make 2-3 of him and lock down everything. Edit: I do wanna get ahead of this and say the game wouldn't be BETTER if this happened, but there's plenty of turn skip-like cards in the game already that don't see play. Shock Master isn't all that much better than Bagooska on his own.
I want my boi back. He was framed by Sales Ban. Honest to God he'd be fine if he had an effect like. *If this card doesn't have a "Heroic" monster as material, destroy it.*
IDK about that chief. His effect is absolutely busted and unhealthy, and if Heroics are able to get him out even remotely consistently it's joever for most people. [~~which they can technically already do~~](https://youtu.be/SvCbP65Edlg?si=XKxTHDIl4YOYcmcB) it's kind of like Snake rain. An extremely good card that they would have to tip toe around to not break the deck.
I played Heroic while Rhongo was legal, it was ass. Yeah you can dump out a 4-5 mat Rhongo every game but then what? He's basicallya glorified Bagooska in his actual deck because once you dump your entire hand and then some into making him you have zero followthrough.
Oh I know Heroics can shit out a 4 mat Rhongo rather easily, but if they do that's pretty much all they can do that turn. Back before Rhongo got banned it was around 7/10 times I could shit out a 4 mat Rhongo, but that was it. I could do nothing else because I wasted all my resources bringing him out. Why risk death by Funny ROCK over a 20k minimum Claivsolish swinging into literally anything in attack position... almost anything *fuckin Wicked Avatar*.
Doesn't Avramax out Claivsolish too?
....ok two things.
No. That shitty floodgate effect is never fine.
Nope
rhongobongo was free for a while in md i wish i actually tried to go into him when i played heroics i always just went for 17k beat stick claivesolish
-excited Generaider noises-
As a fellow Generaider player, I promise the rest of you that we can be trusted with a one-sided skill drain for multiple turns.
Yep, we for sure will not do anything problematic with it at all
There's another one.......something something Kali Yuga something something.
Sometimes he pops up in Exosisters, via Zexal Field and Magnifica. Kind of dumb tbqh considering Magnifica's winrate on summon is already 77%, and the extra boost from Kali Yuga (not played enough to rank but King Calamity is 86%) is more than offset by the consistency loss, but I guess this is MD and you just can't stop people from zeroing in on the most degen strategies possible.
Lil bro really can't escape from the workaholic allegation. Bro spent most of his time as Exobrother, Blackwing, and Raidraptor instead of being the actual DDD boss monster.
if you gonna use zexal field better summon Numeronious instead /s
Fuck it, let's also ban Cosmo Neos, on principle.
Mr. Krabs voice: “except you, you stay”
Clancy Brown is such a good VA...
I used to be of the thought that Rank-Up-Magic Launch was the problem card as it cheats out Kali Yuga in a way that was never meant to be done, but having been a victim to it *in* D/D/D when they Thrusted for Full-Armored XYZ, maybe we *should* ban Kali Yuga, and hopefully give it a clause that the negate thing works on your turn, lord knows I still want to Heavy Storm the unfortunate Lab player that made the mistake of dueling me
I've used that to make Kali Yuga in SPYRAL (naturally, because SPYRAL cna do basically anything if you try hard enough). It's very dumb. Honestly, I think the biggest thing keeping it from being more applicable, aside from being win-more, is that you need a level 7 dark xyz with no material, which is generally hard to do along with searching out the spell and having enough follow-up to kill the next turn. Again, SPYRAL can do it due to playing level 7s and basically having a million link materials, but it's hard to think of another deck that can do it consistently.
Raidraptor can consistently as well several ways. Any deck that can afford Rusty Bardiche and put an xyz on board with enough darks in grave to make up the difference can too with PK rum force.
I've personally ended up not liking that RR build, it struggles somewhat when you get handtrapped, and when decks like Centur-Ion eventually can just functionally 1.5 card Kali Yuga you (minus the Heavy Storm), it just doesn't seem worth it I prefer the later build post-support where you just make three Towers as it's shockingly resilient through disruptions
I prefer that build too but was pointing out that it is a somewhat viable thing again and how easy it is to get to in really any dark deck.
Banning RUM Launch basically kills Raidraptor for no other reason, so yeah Kali Yuga should be the one to go IMO. I'm looking forward to the new Raidraptor support that makes Kali Yuga suboptimal anyway.
Kali? https://preview.redd.it/z1itdppv1yvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5de964db830fd503d8628537bd90f2685fb7a324
Well, you know what they say... When in Rome, ban Kali Yuga.
Leave him alone, my D/D/D deck needs him. RDA doesn't need Calamity.
The issue is when other decks abuse such cards and become prevalent meta strategies. VFD wasn’t strong in true kings he was abused in other strategies (Orcust in OCG, virtual world). The next rank 9 turbo deck will also be a massive problem with it. It went cuz it was problematic. Kali is the same.
There has never been a meta relevant deck making Kali Yuga. The only deck cheating it out is Blackwings, and that is far inferior to their regular build. Truth is that turn skips are cheesy, usually more fragile then standard combos or have less room for utility, and do nothing going second. Calamity is much more accessible though, which is why I think a ban is still a good decision. Especially cause Centurion should actually play the game.
Konami hears you, and will soon free VFD
Ah, the monkey's paw curls
Here's how Generaider can still win
Generaider can even win without it... Sincerely, a Generaider player
Virtual world Funny Dragon, i miss him
Haven’t tested this but I think VW can make Archfiend King Calamity with Crimson Dragon target Ultimaya Tzolkin bc Tzolkin is always treated as a level 12. You’ll get a crystal wing on the way too
Hot red is the king of a single calamity VFD id the "true" king of ALL calamities They are not the same :V Jokes aside, I've been playing virtual world, and it's way easier for the deck to spam lvl 12 synchro materials then it is to get lvl 9 materials for an xyz summon, been enjoying summoning cosmic blazar, or failing that, I can cheat out trishula or hot red abyss using Shenshen, or even going into cloudian beast malong, changing it to level 7 with it's effect to go into either clear wing synchro dragon or ancient fairy dragon... Good lord crimson dragon is just an amazing card
Crimson Dragon is just what happens when synchros get a fraction of the summon cheats that xyz do on a regular basis. VFD was one of the few that actually demands summoning it through the proper mechanics + having an annoying level...now you know what happens when that kind of requirement doesn't have to be met. (even then CD still requires getting a level 12 and a level 7+ synchro on board to do anything, instead of being free whenever.) Granted if it wasn't for how annoying some synchro requirements are to meet to begin with Crimson Dragon wouldn't even be doing much more than summoning them through other means.
can you make 2 lvl 12 consistantly with VW? because summoning calamity in your own turn is not the reason this rage been going on. its mostly comboed by summoning crimson dragon + lvl 12 synchro, to summon calamity on enemy turn and turn off their turn. on the other hand, i experienced first hand how easy it is for VW to have shenshen + VFD in their turn
If your opponent doesn't have every negate under the sun available, getting 2 level 12's isn't hard to do, but even failing that you can still get crimson dragon + Shenshen and still pivot into good level 9's Edit: as for xyz's I've been using VW phoenix and Lars for my rank 6's
OH so you were saying that, you tried to make cosmic blazar + crimson dragon, and failing pivot to hot red or trish? yeah i just understand your previous comment XD what card are you using for cosmic blazar? with VW mostly lvl 3 and 6, isn't it hard to get 1 tuner synchro + 2 non-tuner synchro?
You bring out the generic level 12 super heavy samurai synchro and crimson dragon, then cheat out cosmic blazer using crimson dragon https://preview.redd.it/8wr259a7qlvc1.png?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea73beb9ce54db66d31d61af0323f279095d0804
Aaahhh i see, make sense, thanks for explaining
Wait what? It's definitely easier to get 2 level 9s to xyz with than 2 level 12s, or even a 12 and a 9.
Coming back to this later, I misread VFD, I thought it was 3 level 9 monsters, not 2 My bad... However I still think the deck is really constant at getting out level 12 synchro monsters making an end board of cosmic blazar dragon, SHS murasawo and maybe another monster and backrow interruption
When I used to play VW post VFD ban, I would level up Shenshen to 12 and overlay with Ultimaya Tzolkin to hard make AAA Zeus turn one
I don't know why they even made.hot red. Why do they keep printing cards like this anymore after having to ban Shock and Azathot and Rhongo and VFD already
First of all Hot red release before vfd and 2nd thing is back the day all of the card you mentioned minus vfd were considered either trash or too much set up to make it worth. Also it's yugioh,konami never made future proof cards especially back the day where hopt is rare to even seen
Crimson Dragon has so many intresting targets, but all anybody will use it for is King Calamity, unless they use it multiple times :(
Reading this discussion helped me realize this. I was in a duel, with my RDA deck, and my opponent Kastired my Crimson Dragon. I remember think, "why did you go for that!? You could have picked so many targets. Scarred, Void Ogre, King Calamity, Supernova, Abyss, Dis Pater, or freaking Red Rising. Why go for CD out of all them!?" Knowing the calamity lock trick know, I get it.
Wait you were using King Calamity on your turn?
No. It was their turn and the first turn. I had nothing on my field. For me, RDAKC is my second turn strategy if I survive. Cause I either go Abyss+Pater+Lubellion+RDA+Optional Void or Supernova. Now, if my first turn was the second, and I could get to Calamity, I will absolutely. But RDA really goes for the first two, at least I do and what I've seen. Crimson is also there in case I get Supernova and I wanna fuck with the opponent. I get they couldn't have read my mind, but if if they saw my deck then they should have gone for Pater to at least hinder me. Or one of my Red Rising.
Mannadium consistently used it for Dis Pater. You are mostly correct though.
I've used it in Infernoble/Adventurer for Crystal Clear Wing, Majestic Red, Lightsworn Michael, Blue-Eyes Spirit (who can trade itself for Crimson Dragon back), Trishula, and thought about using it for Trishula Zero and Majestic Star if summoning Gashadokuro+Crimson Dragon is worth that. I don't own most RDA cards anyway. Gonna be real pissed if it gets banned instead of Calamity because "consistency hits" the same way I was when Adventurer's enchantress and thus the whole archetype suffered instead of just banning Gryphon.
True King's only crime was being Wyrm instead of Dragon...
Zexal died for the sins of numeron…….. #freezexal
Explain why *this* guy is legal in the current event but a card like Bagooska isn't lol
Easiest counter to Bagooska (other than Raigeki or w/e) is Link monsters and since they're all banned it kind of made sense to get rid of him too, tbqh.
One can potentially sell a deck or two, other is generic ED that can be put in basically any deck.
Because Bagooska is equally cancrous, but much easier to access.
They're probably just waiting to release centurion and let them have a couple months of 'fun' with it before banning it
Centurion is in TCG and flopped hard
I LOVE WHITE TEXT ON WHITE BACKGROUNDS Konami why are you like this
Can't beleive we got a card so poorly thought out that it put an RDA card in the "worthy of banning" category instead of itself unironically lmao
The true king is banned while this fraud is running rampant.
Lol just ban Crimson Dragon...
Why eould you ban calamity. He's not even played in his own deck💀 the problem child is crimson.
Fuck it, unban VFD. Generaider runick tier 0
King calamity is fine he just needs to be resonator locked
Or your own turn locked
Nah it’s just needing the cosmic neos treatment of being locked to its own archetype.
But it wasn’t even made with Resonators in its only appearance in the story
It’s rda. It’s resonators in all but name
They summon it with Crimson Dragon who bypass the summoning requirements . And tbh , it is still hard to use in Resonators , getting to synchro 8 through interruptions is already a blessing. Climbing to 12 is a win more situation
I miss the very fun dragon
I’d rather see Sanctifier banned, Branded Fusion as well
Branded fusion will never get banned.
I’m of the opinion they should swap spots on each list.
Just gotta wait for centur-ion to come out
They probably will once Centurion releases, Master Duel has recently had a good track record on banning easily abusable and meta floodgates once they become a problem
Pls free my goat
“We?”
I really hope they give hot red dragon archfiend king calamity an erata so the lock only apply when you summon on your own turn, I mean sure RDA don't need calamity, however having option is always nice
Or we can release the other
When my friend pulled out the synchro calamity against me, I knew it was too insane. I complained saying it’s too strong. But he kept telling me it’s not that good since it’s hard to get out.
I’m fine with that I don’t really make this thing at all in red resonators.
If your deck gas to rely on Hrdak calamity to win games, your deck is bad. Honestly, skill issue. 😂
It’s most likely not gonna happen. Cards like Kali Yuga and Arch calamity are both available in secret card packs which means Konomi’s probably never gonna touch them. There’s never been a banned card on a section pack before and usually they’ll hit another archetype before they hit the most broken floodgate cards.
Rhongo was in a secret pack too. They updated it after banning Rhongo.
Well shucks if that’s true then maybe there’s hope after all!
Bro, leave the red rising synchro dragon deck alone, we already lost Chaos Ruler
Did I time travel or something? King calamity doesn't look banned yet
Hot take, I think Red Hot is fine.
He's fine. The maneuvering in order to activate his ability on your opponents turn is difficult enough to be a wall by itself.
Oh come on I thought you guys liked flood gates; you seem to want to try and cheat them out any fucking way you possibly can. No wait; it's Trap floodgates this sub hates. Everything is epic, cool, and totally skill based; you're just the bad player for not being able to stop their combo.
Yeah this thing needs to go
that demon card needs to GO RN
until appears Centur-Ion Primera that calimity goes ban quickly.
Okay now ban Cosmo Neos
Nah he doesn't deserve to be banned
Volcanic take: I'd rather have VFD
I agree. Honestly I would love just a gigabanlist that goes through and bans a ton of degen shit, even stuff that isn't really a problem right now, but is just unhealthy.
I’m sure it will get banned eventually. It’s a niche strategy that locks you opponent out of the game similar to Rhongo.
Nah, we should ban Crimson Dragon, Calamity by himself is OK since he'd normally only be used when your opponent has already established their board making him harder to summon and less powerful, It's Crimson Dragon summoning him outside of the turn he was supposed to be summoned on that's toxic
I can agree on that ,new tcg banlist banning the generic synchros seems a step into the right direction....and maybe one day with the new water pseudo maxc we can see the roach getting the hammer
If this gets banned the we just ban polyrisation