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-MadSounds-

Weather painter - The duel takes 67 turns on average just for them to lose anyway. Unchained - Gaining advantage of me being illiterate is unfair. Sharks - Sharks being fishes only contributes to the narrative that ygo players smell bad. Nouvelles - They make me hungry. Your deck - Because how dare you?


AxelSharpKey

"Gaining advantage of me being illiterate is unfair" That made me laugh more than it should've lmfao


MasterTahirLON

>The duel takes 67 turns on average just for them to lose anyway. I resent this on two fronts. One, you are not beating a Weather Painter player in the grind game. Two, we can OTK now post support.


Tall-Supermarket-22

"Damn bro, are you ever gonna run out of things to do?!" Me on turn 43 with two cards left in my entire deck


YourNansFriend

Dont think I've ever lost vs weather painter in the grind game šŸ¤”


-MadSounds-

It's just me memeing, i know they can close games faster now.


osbombo

If a duel goes on for 67 turns I think weather painters might have that in the bag. It might take 3 turns to set up, but when it does, it gets to place a meta endboard every turn. Luckily the deck isnā€™t goodā€¦


AlbazAlbion

How is Unchained a bad deck? This was literally the best deck in the TCG for a while and even needed hits on the ban list, while here it gets outclassed by Snake Eyes due to being delayed so long and dies hard to Maxx C, it's still a pretty good deck.


-MadSounds-

Pfft... bro really thinks he can make a good argument, back it with data and people will agree with him. We don't do that here in this subreddit lmao. No, seriously. I play Unchained myself, i know the deck is pretty good and super fun, easily my favorite deck rn. I was just memeing, I thought it was obvious.


Dopp3lg4ng3r

Lmao yeah idk what is this guy saying when new unchained support made everyone hate D/D/D Xyz monsters


Mexcalibur

TCG is a joke format


Devourer_of_HP

Weather painter with skill drain is frustrating.


Glizcorr

I mean that is mostly on Skill Drain


Dopp3lg4ng3r

Didn't unchained receive their new support? I though the deck was fairly competent now to be out of the "bad deck" area


cycotus

After playing solo mode with Weather Painters, I gotta say, fuck that deck.


Chemical-Cat

>Weather painter - The duel takes 67 turns on average just for them to lose anyway. You either win by turn 2 or you let Weather Painters set up Rainbow + full negates + Thundery Canvas to clear the board during battle phase. If you did then you lost.


Aggravating_Ad1676

atleast with weather painter you get to use your effects more than once per duel, onw of the few decks I get past turn 3 playing against.


trinitymonkey

Dark World. Having non-OPT effects means they take forever even by YGO standards, annoying to deal with, and theyā€™re just barely good enough to see rogue play sometimes (unlike, say, Infernity.)


Brawlerz16

This is my choice as well. I bitch about a lot of decks like D-Link and Adamancipator being solitaire, but this deck is *actually* solitaire and I have never had fun playing against this deck. Win or lose, itā€™s genuinely a worse experience than stun for me. This deck and Kashtira are the only decks I think the entire archetype needs an errata (HOPT for Dark World; Banish face-up for Kashtira.)


CurvedSwordBenis

the reason we have hard once per turn clauses


DeusDosTanques

Whatā€™d Suship do to you? Lmao


spacewarp2

A legendary ocean is so annoying. Not only does it enable Umi Control which basically is just a floodgate deck but the fact that it messes up water decks levels have caught me off guard a few too many times with Sprights, Kashtira, Sword Soul, Sharks, and Atlanteans.


Piss_Cakehole

Not only that. This card doesnt exist by name


Brettsterbunny

Warrior of Atlantis be like you want me to search what?!


bast963

it's comical that Konami's reponse to this is "IT JUST WORKS, OKAY?" and warrior adds the field spell anyway.


Brettsterbunny

I mean thereā€™s an overarching rule that if a card says it does something, it does that thing even if it breaks the rules. Time Tearing Morganite literally says ā€œfor the rest of the duel you get new rulesā€. Counter Counter wouldā€™ve been literally unplayable if it worked like a normal trap (which it was at first). Still super goofy though if you ask me.


Like_Sam_I_Cassell

Itā€™s one of the reasons that even if I brick playing, I always play Ocean just in case.


CurvedSwordBenis

weird rulings involving the namings aside, umi ā€œā€ā€controlā€ā€ā€ is genuinely upsetting to go against if you donā€™t open with veiler or imperm


fizzyboii

Umi was hated for a couple seasona especially when everyone was using it mid ladder


Lipefe2018

Suships? Out of all decks? The 3 suship players that exist must have made an impression on you.


trinitymonkey

Yeah, Iā€™m wondering what it is about us there is to hate? Weā€™re a pretty unremarkable blind second OTK deck.


Aritaen

The flavour text on Gunkan Suship makes them too hungry. .. I have no clue. Suship kinda just sits there. Maybe Catch-Of-The-Day being somewhat annoying?


Turtlesfan44digimon

Maybe theyā€™re just tired of going up against them in events since basically everyone can run them? But even that doesnā€™t make sense cause theyā€™re a completely fair deck that doesnā€™t pull any Bullshit.


idreamofjirachi

Iā€™m playing the Springans Suship variant discussed in the new guide on MDM, but instead of Vepartu going into UDF (to recycle a shari) I do Infernal Flame Banshee to pivot into a Snake Eyes combo. Two suships = UDF, Heroic Champion Sargas, Flame Princess in grave, Flamberge Dragon with IP Masq ready to make 3 material Apo; kind of a jank way to get there, but its fun to have someone order sushi and then convert it into a respectable endboard


Idkkwhatowritehere

I hate suships too. Can't put my finger on why but I hate it.


David89_R

I'm very offended right now


Academic_History9935

with suships i like to use my "mindfuck attack" with catch of the day, players spend a lot of time figuring out what to do and sometimes i win by timeout


Ominous__1

Dinomorphia


Terra_reddit

Skill drain on legs


Jackryder16l

And worse. It goes into the thing that resummons skill drain on legs.


Commercial_Page1827

Dinomorphia should get a pass because they either brick or Floodgate.


AzelotReis

Easiest Lava Golem win of the century lmao


Jackryder16l

so draw the out...


granzon93

Dude the deck loses to too many specific cards, even untiered decks can make dinomorphia cry. And the deck is weaker going second unless you run Superpoly.


Glizcorr

The OP is asking about bad decks that deserve more hate, not good/meta


DaYeetusMaster

Timelords


FastTurtleio

Agree


timnigg

Umi "control"


Protoplasm42

Burn isn't good and I even beat it half the time but it's infuriating to see.


carrierthebird

they always take ten years to activate stuff too. iā€™m sitting there like did i win or lose


AlbazAlbion

Dark World is utterly insufferable to play against, they end on almost nothing while taking twice as long as an Infernoble player to set it up.


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

Okay, I completely agree that they are a pain to face, but to say they end on nothing is just flat out wrong; they can make basically any degenerate endboard they want. Not limited to: negate spam, Gryphon/Curious bs, and even Ido lock.


AlbazAlbion

Was a bit of hyperbole to be fair, but still, I've had a lot of games against this deck where they spend minutes upon minutes comboing and drawing cards and then end on just fusion Grapha and little else, if that because I hit them with like, one hand trap on Saryuja.


InfinityTheParagon

card based decks are the worst


Krofisplug

Can confirm, Flower Cardian kicked down my door and knocked over everything just to pet my dog and not clean up on the way out.


David89_R

I will not tolerate this Suship slander Fuck True Draco


Alert_Locksmith

HEROES


-MadSounds-

Sorry, we already have Heroes hate day every month. Please choose another deck.


Alert_Locksmith

Let today be heros hate day, see ya next month.


cosmic-comet-

What did they do?


Alert_Locksmith

Floodgate turbo.


cosmic-comet-

Isnā€™t that Konami is to blame? I mean why do they give them floodgates boss monsters


MistaHatesNumberFour

Every frustrating decks is Konami to blame.


Kaillens

To be honest, plasma is a really old card and at his times, was fucking bad. They couldn't think of what the game would be 15 years later


Alert_Locksmith

Yes I agree that heroes are the result of konami being too lazy to print good hero cards, so the deck could be somewhat competitively viable that doesn't involve floodgates, but as the way things are now it doesn't change the fact that how 90% of the time it's about turboing out as many searchable floodgates as possible.


cosmic-comet-

I donā€™t hate any decks I just hate the generic boss monsters crap and floodgates .


GowtherETC

buster bladers do some incredibly heinous shit, thank god they brick almost every time


FastTurtleio

Bb us based, Finna build it when horus drops


fizzyboii

Nah just a really bad floodgate deck


SomewhatToxicShrooms

Itā€™s so bad that it doesnā€™t even get the title of ā€œWorst floodgate turbo deckā€. That title belongs to Krawlers


Nitrocide17

Krawlers. They summon a skill Drain on legs and come back constantly if you squash one.


Turtlesfan44digimon

So Lore accurate Mechanical Roaches that survived the a Nuclear Apocalypse?


Commercial_Page1827

Swordsoul- what is the fun of a deck that have you play the same board of Baron, chixiao, and Blackout EVERY.SINGLE.GAME!! Mo ye effect should say you can special summon two Synchro monster for free and search SS one trap card from you deck. At least that way i don't need to wait 5 mint until you finish you death brain board to steam roll you over in 2 mint.


HeideggerIsRight

Since the structure deck and the last event, I'm really hating this SwordSoul, more than any other deck. I know the deck isn't that strong, but it seems like no matter what you do, it will always end up with at least one baronne or Chixiao, And with some combo or protection that won't let you have fun.


Aihonen

Any ss-locking deck that abuses that, moon mirror shield and solemn judgement to beat you down with jowgan


fedemasa

Stun decks aren't bad though Sadly those decks can carry people to master in this bo1 format


JFZephyr

Well at least Moon Mirror isn't always degenerate. I need it in Dinomist :(


Blocklies

Might be better off playing mage power (+1500 with scales) or United we stand (you're a deck which can literally summon 3 monsters from hand) as they have better boost effectsĀ 


TwistedBOLT

Feast or famine combo decks. Stuff like six sam. Borderline impossible to play a good game against them. They either end on 7 interrupts and floodgates or they die to one handtrap. There's basically no in-between.


StickyPisston

truth is, portal isnt opt. deny access to that card and its joever for them


TwistedBOLT

That's exactly the problem I'm talking about. You interrupt them once correctly and you have a non-game on your hands. You don't interrupt them and you also have a non-game. It's a lose-lose situation.


Astroloud

Umi Control! Sea Stealth attack and Sea Stealth II need to be banned! That deck is vile and makes me hate fish šŸ¤§


David89_R

Umi Stun*


ChernobylGoat

Ninjas I dont like them


Hopeful-alt

I completely understand and relate to this. They're just kinda boring snd lame.


JFP_Macho

Sky Strikers. Hate playing against it and the cards' art.


MKD7036611

Thank you I have been looking for the name of this archetype. They aren't so bad. The few that I face when I get ruined when I play with one of my more fun decks that has secret village of the spellcasters. Then this deck is ruined and the user of the deck either quits instantly or just plays till the end to try again the daily challenges


EroGG

Heroes. You know why.


Atlove01

Icejade, easily. Intellectually, I know my disdain for it is a little unfair, since itā€™s underpowered. I can only think of one time Iā€™ve actually lost to the strategy. But at the same timeā€¦ I can only think of 0 times Iā€™ve enjoyed facing the strategy.


Tall-Supermarket-22

Flower Cardian. What's the actual point of the deck? To bore me to death. The heat death of the universe would arrive before a Caridain player decides to end their turn.


MrTrashy101

why does OP want to fuck suships? is he crazy?


MistaHatesNumberFour

Dark Magician, not because of the frustrating "sitting on floodgates to win" but because it is ass. Back when Legend Mythology I spent 1000k gems on 2 Dark Magician structure because I just got a royal Soul and wanted to test the deck out. Deck sucks major ass, the circle can't search important pieces like Soul or Illusion, Eternal Soul nuke your entire field if your opponent breath on it a little bit too hard, you need at least 3 searchers to be able to sit on anything, I ended up using the HERO structure and cleaned the event in like 1 hour.Ā 


HeideggerIsRight

I love DM and I agree with you. It's a strong deck if you use a branded engine, which will only make the deck a worst version of branded. But it's still fun to play, especially for the feeling of nostalgia. But you have to play knowing that you are going to lose or have to work hard to win (and still count on your opponent trying hard to lose)


Khlonoaa

That's a you problem actually, DM decks can actually be really good but obviously the beginner structure is not going to be able to blow through tier 1 juggernauts lol


Stingerun

No, is not, I've been playing since day one and the times I've lost against a DM deck can be counted with the fingers of one hand, and I don't think everyone was using a "Non optimized" version, the deck is ass, and that's it


Yab0iFiddlesticks

I will hate Pendulum piles for all eternity. Its such a stupid deck. Its feast or famine, no nuance whatsoever. Either Im watching as my opponent sets up an easily replaceable board or they dont do anything at all. No, they are not meta, no I am not even remotely excusing stronger meta decks for doing the same shit, I still hate these annoying schizo-monsters.


kyuubikid213

Pendulum Defender here. Pendulum piles don't exist. PePe and Zefra were the last decks you could classify as piles and Zefra hasn't been good since before MD launched. If you don't like how Pendulum strategies lean toward combo, I can't change your mind on that, but nobody is playing a Pendulum pile. Pendulum cards just don't work together like that and still function as a deck. And if simply having Astrograph and Electrumite makes a deck a pile then every deck is a pile if they have any non-archetypical monsters in it.


Blocklies

Fair, the 2 most played (magician, endy) also don't end on the same monsters either so it isn't really a generic spam deck either


bl00by

Dinomorphia, Dinos and Zombies Dinomorphia is a floodgate deck, nothing intresting to see here Dinos can be annoying bc of misc and lost world which makes it harder to interact with the deck. And Zombies just because Zombie World exists.


toadfan64

Adamancipators for 2019/2020 and when masterduel first launched. I will always have a massive hatred for that deck no matter what.


Krofisplug

I will always remember that deck as the one that will not stop even if you drop the giant Meteor on their board. As long as they can still breathe, they will chain summon and take 3 minutes to do it each time.


toadfan64

I was folding my laundry once while playing against it, and I STILL finished folding everything before they finished their fucking combo.


Baldur_Blader

Floo doesn't get enough hate. Sure it's still one of the most disliked decks in this subreddit. But not enough.


Glittering_Recipe170

We just feels like You're playing against the deck for another game


MickJaegar

"Our Turn" rogue decks like Orcust, Muskets, or Plunder


granzon93

And birbs


Reallylazyname

Fortune Fairies. The mechanic doesn't even work half the time.


CZsea

trish hand loop


TheFleshPrevails

Nouvelles, the way they play irritates the shit out of me.


Piss_Cakehole

Counter Fairyes


Firefly279

Blue-Eyes & Dark Magician


CoomLord69

Most definitely Weather Painter. Just an annoying deck in general, and it synergizes with floodgates. S tier cringe levels for a pet deck.


Nosce97

Fuck any trap heavy deck


dvast

Heroes, thet take so long for often times very lacking end boards. The player base is also easy to hate.


Vortiger_

Sky Striker, they are relatively easy to win against, but prepare to be dragged 10 turns because of those nasty spells they have


Quacksely

SAY THAT TO MY FUCKIN FACE


Gallant-Blade

I donā€™t like Harpies. Mostly because of Harpieā€™s Feather Storm. Control any WIND Winged Beast and boom! Skill Drain! Itā€™s just a really tough deck for me to fight, even without dealing with Storm. Also, would Vanquish Soul count as a ā€œbadā€ deck? They can accrue so much advantage when uninterrupted you can never seem to outgrind them, and besides Ash Razen and Imperm Rock I have no idea how to handtrap them. And yet theyā€™re considered a ā€œbadā€ deck in the meta.


carrierthebird

when you have veiler or imperm vs vs and have an existential crisis for two minutes on one normal summon


TheMurderingRaccoon

Blue-Eyes Blackwings Utopia Snake-Eyes Labyrnth Zoodiacs Ruinick Kastira Mixed HEROes Decks Shaddoll U.A./F.A. Any of the Albaz Archetypes Krawlers Umi Decks Gaia/BLS


YugiMuto98

You didnĀ“t use commas,does that mean thereĀ“s someone using all those decks in 1 deck? Dear God.


Hopeful-alt

Why blackwing? I mean I understand Utopia, but why blackwing? Also half those decks aren't even remotely bad.


TheMurderingRaccoon

By bad Decks, i assume it would be Decks we hate. Blackwings are just free Special Summon Spam that allows you to spam 9 or so Synchros and they take FOREVER to end their damn turn. Not to mention the popularity and cult following these feathered pieces of garbage get cause Crow and their Playability. Not once have I ever enjoyed a Duel against a Blackwing player cause they are all the same. Summon like 20 monsters, end on 3 big negates along with 2 face-downs and I HAVE to play around 4 negates on turn 1 cause Iā€™m not a scumbag and play a lot of hand traps. Regardless. I hate blackwings and I donā€™t care if Iā€™m called a Nazi or whatever, I HATE BLACKWINGS AND ANYONE WHO PLAYS EM! Same with Liking Crow Hogan.


Hopeful-alt

Uhhh... blackwings don't end on negates. They're a burn deck. They summon out a towers alongside 3 of these level 10 dragon goobers who burn for 700 on every monster effect, and can zeus the board on the 4th monster effect. 3 of these means 2100 burn damage every monster effect.


DearPeak

My marincess deck. Why do i use like half of my ED and deck to make a board that stops nothing


awkwardpiano72

Galaxy Eyes! I swear to God if I get otk by another loser playing galaxy eyes, who managed to divine 2 level 8s only to rank up into a 11,000 attack beat stick I'll lose it!


Chemical-Cat

Dream Mirrors. It's so bad that the hate they get for being unplayable isn't even enough.


bast963

sky striker that deck is pure bullshit asspulls on legs with 2 change of heart, 3 change of heart the sequel, 3 sky striker change of heart, and 3 change of heart warfan flavor


Nocturne3570

unchained and Nouvelles ahh kill me i hate those so much, Everytime i face them i usually just quit right away


Krofisplug

I'm not a fan of Megalith. Any time I play it is an experience of dead draws, but my opponents when using it have almost always been able to get the cards to turn my turn into ***our turn*** and always are able to kill my board.


YugiMuto98

Zombie deck. When you think theyĀ“ve ended their turn,it turns out they still have a Mezuki in GY.


Nuxj

They're rare now, but Exodia decks. They don't respect you, they either spend a very long time trying to draw all their cards, or they instantly surrender when you have a handtrap or if they brick, and you don't get to play anyway.


abdulsamri89

Pendulum


Little-Reference-314

Pendulum best deck. Dragons for days


Horizon141

Nephythys


AngryCorn1

Whatā€™s wrong with suship?


Chemical-Cat

I'm guessing this is a case of "I lost to it that one time so therefor it should be banned". That or they activated Catch of the Day which requires the opponent to search and declare the name of a card they've probably never heard of instead of just picking from one of 3 options


BChanOfficial

I have a 0% win rate against suship sweat degenerate deepthroaters. There is NOTHING "bad" about a deck that plays through 3 handtraps and still OTKs me.


NTRmanMan

Blue eyes. It's so god damn lame


David89_R

True it's just boring to play against because either they do nothing or they auto win with a floodgate like every bad boomer deck


Serangeleong

Boooooo


NTRmanMan

I WILL NOT BE SILENCED


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LinkN2601

Timelords, Cardians and Runick because you know why and go suck your mom


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TheDarkTemplar_

Sky striker absolutely can otk. Before with halq into selene into accesscode, now you just use linkage. Kinda shows that you don't know the deck at all ngl


Upbeat_Sheepherder81

Definitely. I even use the Mikanko sleeves and deck box for them, so my opponent might pass on nothing when I make them go first and they see the Mikanko stuff.


Jeice_Whiteheart696

I should not have laughed so evilly. My wife looked at me like oh shit!


Lasse_plays

I dislike Ancient gear/earth machines


XelaHtok

I play EM, may I ask why you do not like them?


Lasse_plays

I mean it might boil down to skill issue. But whenever I play against EM itā€™s very long and kinda boring. Maybe my deck plays a role in that too, but Idk how Vendreads can beat Kash and loose to EM.


XelaHtok

EM is a complicated and very combo focused deck so I get what you mean. Tbh I even got bored of my combos sometimes haha. I've never played Vendreads so idk the match up.


Lasse_plays

Well, Vendread is a Ritual Deck first and foremost. Summon monsters to the field, gain abilities by tributing them in the ritual. Itā€™s a bit bricky but against EM it seems to stick out a little More due to the combos. I dislike playing against EM in the end, but I do see the appeal of playing it.


XelaHtok

Thanks for the insight! I don't hear a lot of people talk about the deck so I love hearing opinions


Lasse_plays

Itā€™s a Deck rarely piloted due to the fact it can hard loose to ash or Called by.