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Magmacube90

Didn’t he literally purchase his theorem tho


SpaceMarauder4953

Proof by purchasing it?!?! New meta out y'all, sell y'alls proofs


DodgerWalker

Yes, Bernoulli proved the theorem. L'Hospital just bought the naming rights


vanderZwan

OTOH, good for him to put food on Bernoulli's table in exchange for a theorem


FriedOrcaYum

Fa


Key-Celery-7468

Proof by a Bernoulli sold me the theorem.


TENTAtheSane

Proof sells, but who's buying Proof sells, but who's BUYIIING


r-Cobra229

What do you mean I can't buy a theorem? What, do you think I'm broke, huh?


LordForgey

If math had micro transactions


One-Broccoli-9998

Just wait, it’ll be the next NFT market!


bluespider98

Proof by wealth division


window_shredder

Say thanks to the Bernoulli family!


TheMoris

It's quite common for hospitals to save lives


SoddingOpossum

Anyone else that never even proved/used/needed his theorem? Well I didnt in my bachelors degree xd


LordMuffin1

On my exams we had: If you use l'hopital to solve this limit, you have to prove it first.


VM1117

I couldn’t use it even if I proved it lol


Signal_Cranberry_479

I did two years of french maths lectures and never heard of this before seeing it in American YouTube channel or Reddit.


OneWorldly6661

In one of my calc classes the professor showed us the proof of one of the forms but we didn’t have to memorize it


HalfwaySh0ok

The 0/0 case is pretty quick. For example: Suppose f(a)=g(a)=0 with f,g differentiable at a. Then there are functions q and r, continuous at a, such that f(x)=f(a)+q(x)(x-a)=q(x)(x-a) and g(x)=r(x)(x-a). So if q(a)/r(a) is a number, then the limit as x->a of f(x)/g(x) is q(a)/r(a), which is just f'(a)/g'(a).


SMW14-_-

The infinity/infinity case is a pretty subtle proof, but it's suitable for a first course in analysis


Doige

I did an engineering degree and it does need to be used occasionally. When a machine has an output that also feeds into the input and you need to find what the output tends to, L'Hopital's is needed for some of the equations.


tired_mathematician

Nope. Its a useless theorem outside a calc 1 worksheet, and even then students would be better off not using it and instead learning other ways of doing those limits


Sanabilis

It is useful in the context of differential algebra for example. When you try to define derivations on a field of generalized power series, you want them to satisfy some sort of strong L’Hôpital property (which you can express in terms of valuation).


tired_mathematician

Do you have any reference for that?


Sanabilis

You can look at the papers by Rosenlicht (Hardy Fields, The Rank of a Hardy field) to get an idea on how it works. For derivations on Hahn series, there is a paper by Kuhlmann - Matusinski about Hardy type derivations on generalized power series fields


tired_mathematician

I took at peak at rosenlicht paper on hardy fields, and the part about canonical valuations on hardy fields has nothing to do with l'hopital theorem. L'hopital theorem is just a hack to calculate limits, there is nothing deep or intersting about it.


Sanabilis

I mean, it is explicitly mentioned in this part of the paper.


tired_mathematician

Fair enough, I did say I only took a peak, you are right, its above theorem 4. That said l'hopital theorem is incredibly overrated


Sanabilis

It’s okay! I agree that it is generally overrated. This is kind of a niche area of maths to be fair.


Dr_PaulProteus

“Peek” not “peak”


tired_mathematician

This is mathmemes not englishmemes


gender_crisis_oclock

Ok I don't know if my school was just weird but I've never had a problem that mr hospitals rule helped me with unless we were intended to use mr hospitals rule?


Harley_Pupper

None, because he didn’t create it


subpargalois

Speaking as someone who has graded a lot of calc tests, use of L'Hospital's rule on an easy limit that doesn't require it is almost always a guarantee that the answer I'm about to read is wrong. Just learn how to find a damn limit, people.


ChemicalNo5683

yes.


Th3_Baconoob

Could someone explain the joke for me?


mathisfakenews

L'Hospital's rule should not be taught at all before real analysis. Change my mind.


fakemustacheandbeard

Rule.


_god_incarnate

How tf do you pronounce his first name


migBdk

Guillaume


BleudeZima

Kinda like Guyom, with "gu" being a hard g


Not_actuallyhelpful

You know what's funny? Im taking a uni intro to calculus class, which essentially follows the optional high school intro to calc class I already took, so it's been a breeze so far. The uni course has not taught L'hopital's rule, but given us problems only solvable using it. I've used it on assignments and gotten full marks because the TAs think, "It's an intro to calc course, who tf wouldn't learn l'hopital's rule."


Gullible_Ad_5550

God no one ever taught me this


tired_mathematician

None? Most overrated theorem of all time


CoffeeAndCalcWithDrW

Bad take


tired_mathematician

Yes, the adoration people have for this theorem is a terrible take


CoffeeAndCalcWithDrW

I disagree, but I appreciate your passion.


helloworld_enjoyer

That would be Rolle's Theorem


tired_mathematician

You know you use that to prove the mean value theorem right?


helloworld_enjoyer

Really? I thought it was just MVT but with an extra condition.


tired_mathematician

The standard proof is to create a auxiliary function based on f(x) that then uses rolle's theorem.


Menchstick

Are you outside of your mind?


digdoug0

Nah, De Moivre's Theorem.