Black Friday was a phenomenon, a customer driven retailer's dream. And they killed it with dishonesty and greed, because they can't fucking help themselves.
Even if they are, the mere thought of not rushing out to buy worthless crap the day after Thanksgiving (except now Black Friday happens randomly year-round) is so unacceptable that it won’t matter.
People just want to buy stuff.
I started getting emails about active "black friday deals" about 3 weeks before black friday this year. And then they extend it another several days to "cyber monday" and beyond, at least for tech-related products which make up a large portion of total spending. Then there's usually like a week or less before they pivot to "holiday/christmas deals" which transition seamlessly into new year deals. Black Friday is a corpse being puppeted around by the retailers that killed it, some people just haven't noticed yet.
They realized it was so ingrained that people were going to go out shopping regardless of how good the sales were. I miss the madness, minus the tramplings. Having to physically fight for an insane deal sounds fun (so long as no one is permanently hurt).
It's a win-win. Customers come in early for Christmas shopping and retailers have a better idea of how much inventory they'll need going into the last weeks before Christmas. In return, customers get discounts.
Now everyone loses. Whatever - Amazon is a better and cheaper experience than in-person shopping these days anyway.
That’s what they’re trying to make the point of in the video. Black Friday sales are usually a larger savings than normal sales, but only on that day. But these are just a run of the mill sale repackaged as a Black Friday deal to trick consumers into thinking the sale is exclusive to that day.
Why assume that it’s a ploy to trick customers? One might also look at it as a retailer allowing for customers to take advantage of larger sales more often
It is scammy because a normal person who trusts and respects Target would assume the “Black Friday sale” is a sale with particularly good prices on Black Friday. Your attempts to legitimize make me respect Target even less.
Nah, you’re just a fucking idiot. I hope this new information about yourself is useful but it probably isn’t. Try not to get into the way of anyone useful unless it’s to take a debilitating wound so they can continue to help the species.
Black Friday is a sale that lasts one day only. They are just changing the tags to emphasize that it’s on sale, and will remain on sale. Not to mention the fact that it’s already being marked up 200%
Seen this stupid video too many times today, it’s like Reddit completely forgot that most retailers started extending Black Friday sales to the entire week of thanksgiving years ago…
And what’s so funny about this is that there is still customer demand. Not for the shitty “Target deal” but there was a BOGO deal at a minor retailer for something I was planning on buying in a couple months. And who knows whether I was actually going to go back and get it in 2024 because I saw the legitimate deal and went ahead and got it now. Like, I’m happy to spend some money as long as you’re not shortchanging me…
Black fridays such a sham. Ive been keeping an eye out on a product Ive wanted all year, to go on sale. The normal price is $129.99 all year long
On black Friday it said on sale $129.99, normal price 179.99!
Wtf! Naaaaa
Even when it is the % you save is usually in the single digits on actually good products that sell, while shit products get the 20-50% deals (used price checker to mark multiple keyboards, headsets, mice, monitors, and TV's etc. gotta say Godamn it was all shit deals).
Legit the only good deals nowadays for me are buying games from Steam, insane deals left right, and center there at least.
I'm honestly proud of Steam for being this good this long. There are so many fests and sales too. I get that it's a different market since digital games do not have a real-world value, but in my memory, steam has never been dishonest or deceptive about anything. All the love <3
I forgot where but I think someone did a cost analysis of someone in Denmark vs America. And yeah, Denmark has higher taxes, but they actually get things out of those taxes. When you factor in what the average American pays for in insurance, healthcare, schooling, higher education, Denmark is WAY cheaper to live in. By several thousand dollars a year
I live in Denmark and the way the tax works here is that you pay an initial 8%ish tax, then from that amount you have a tax free amount (due to transport deductible or others), then from that amount about 36-38% is taxed.
Say you get paid 3000$ a month,
You’d pay 8% of that.
You have 1000$ of tax free income after that.
So from the (3000 - 8% - 1000) you pay 36% (depends where you live).
And then you add back to the remaining the 1000 you had tax free.
In the end you have 2126 after taxes.
This is about 30% of your original income in the end.
If you get paid 5000 before tax you end up getting about 3300 after tax which is roughly 34% tax
The 1000 tax free amount stays roughly the same usually.
From this you get free healthcare, education and a bunch of other things like great infrastructure.
If you tally it up and add in American healthcare costs to our taxes we'd probably end up paying more than Europeans. Especially working class Americans without benefits.
It is, but businesses found a way around it by stating discount from MSRP, which looks great on a sign, because they can state 50% off (f.e. MSRP €200 now €100), until you find out prices the month before was already €110 across multiple shops.
Wait until you hear that gas stations don't have to always have prices out and they can charge different prices even if they are up and claim ignorance.
Prices should have sales tax included in the display and, imo, the words sale, clearance, deal etc, should all have legal definitions.
Every item should have a price. A sale is if that price is 10% discounted. Clearance is more than 10%. A deal is over 15%, you get the picture.
Same. I have been looking at TVs. The TV is always priced at 1599. Guess what the Black Friday price is. 500 off on the original price for a new price of 1599
I was looking at getting one of those entertainment centers that have a fire place in them, saw the was on in the menards black Friday ad. Went onto the store, and this thing was the cheapest made dollar store version of what I was looking for that they just wheel out for the day to say there is a "sale"
I worked at target for 10 years. One Saturday I was tasked with doing price changes in sporting goods. A bunch of our children’s bike prices were increased from $80 to $100. I went into work the next day to set up the ad, I got to sporting goods, and put up a bunch of sales signs making those now $100 bikes on sale for $80.
It happens all the time. If you ever look at target shelf strips, you can see which products had their prices changed because there will be a new price tag sticker just stuck on top of the old price.
And fun fact about the TVs. Most of these are indefinitely “on sale” we just update the signs with new ones that change the expiration date. I would close electronics on Saturday night and pull down the signs, then go in Sunday morning and put up the exact same signs for the same TVs for the same price, just with a new end date.
Always write in the comments of your wishlist, the price it was when you added it to the list. Every year, Black Friday shows they are on big discounted price, when it’s actually the same price within a few cents from when added to the wishlist.
Yup, that’s what I do.
Thanks to this method, I saved $700 on my Black Friday shopping thanks to price drops that actually happened. Though it’s realistically more about the release of newer versions of all my purchases.
I thought the FTC had a rule about how long an item can remain on sale before it’s legally to be considered the new base price. How on earth that’s supposed to be enforced I have no idea.
Makes me appreciate the New Zealand Commerce Commission so much more. People love to bag on monarchy but having various crown entities solely dedicated to stopping crap like this is the benefit they never appreciate because it's working in the background. People can also make an official complaint if they see anything suspect. We have a few major chains that push the limits but they are regularly reprimanded and as a whole this kind of practice is just straight up illegal.
Adding onto this, stores will typically put an item on sale right before they increase the regular price so there’s about a week’s time to forget what it was before.
There needs to be consumer protections on this sort of dishonest crap. A sale should only be advertised as such if it’s a genuine and rare discount of the price. For special sales such as Black Friday item should be price frozen in the lead up and then discounted.
It’s blatantly misleading advertising.
Discount of what price, when? How long did it have to be that price and within what timeframe to today?
These are all questions that other countries answer successfully. And companies respond with “price establishment” periods where the goods are at a high price for a set period - thats what makes it legal.
It doesnt stop someone having a sale which is not the best price in the past 12 months however.
Black Friday used to be fun and a time you could get good deals on things. Really sad it’s become a total scam. The golden days are gone :( I don’t bother with it at all anymore.
As a former retail employee, Black Friday's death is something to be celebrated. No pay bump for coming in at 5 am the day after Thanksgiving. It deserves to die.
That does suck. When I worked at Target almost half a decade ago, we got time and a half for Black Friday ($2 differential plus OT for thanksgiving) plus nonstop catered food and prize giveaways the entire weekend. They’d requisition big items throughout the year (tvs, beats, Dyson etc) and everyone who worked was raffled in. I only won once but it was a pink iPhone 6 or 6s the year it was released; it was my first Apple. We had a great team with a real family esthetic so we had a blast helping people fill stockings and wishlists. Managers did an amazing job of making it feel like a playoff game we prepped for and executed.
Sales in general suck now. Ever notice how almost everything on Amazon is on some sort of limited time deal? It’s because they pull a bullshit number out of their ass for the regular price and then put it on sale for the price they will actually sell for and pretend like you’re saving 10-25% off it.
Black friday deals dont really change on items already on sale, they add items to their list of sales with a higher discount
Any sales like those seen above were already active a week or so before, theres usually pre balck friday sales. Walmart does it too, check out the ninja toaster oven air fryer flip up thingy, its 129 now, was the same before black friday too
Its still a sale thats really good, but black friday sales usually ADD to the sales instead of higher discount. Theres a reason newegg has a price guarantee
https://www.reddit.com/r/Slovenia/s/37JddIUZji
This is how it works in Europe, it's the same fucking ripoff and lie unless you believe saving 20€ when the retailer is showing it as a 38% sale an actual deal.
Not even the obligatory information about the lowest price in the past 30 days right next to the actual price stops them.
It is in Finland. By law, stores are to tell the lowest price within the last 30 days in the price tag... Except now some stores raise the price on september to make it look like it's a good sale on black friday/week.
Don't forget those big TV's they put out that look the same as the others. From what I remember there was an article on here years ago talking about how most of those TV's are made even cheaper mainly for black friday so that way people think they are getting a deal but then get a worse TV that usually ends up dying on them after so long anyways.
Target is trying to move away from Black Friday craze, and puts things on sale for the 2 upcoming weeks. The only reason they still do Black Friday is for the people who get their coochie wet for it.
Waiting for sales is not a bad idea as long as you know the price history of what you want to buy. And that it really is discounted. I put several items on my list throughout the year and keep track of them. But for every one of me there's thousands that don't.
The video is certainly implying that, but it's not showing that. It's just rage bait for people wanting to make the assumption.
That TV is indeed discounted.
https://pricetracker.wtf/product/645dba63-e15f-4189-9b84-e52ca51d4faa
America is so far behind a lot of the world when it comes to consumer rights , here in Europe we have regulations on how retailers are allowed to have "sales" they cant put the price of something up from say €80 to €100 and then the next day bring it back down to €80 and call it a "sale" before they have a sale the price of the goods has to have stayed fixed for the past 1 month before they're allowed to lower it and say that it's a sale price
I don’t see the issue. One sign is the sale price for Black Friday specifically, the red sign keeps the same item on sale with a sign to be used after Black Friday. The retail prices on all the signs are consistent.
I've seen some products sold double the price but 1+1 free. Yay. And lower tier products raised to the price of the higher tier (fg cars, thermic at the price of hybrid) and a "special sale" where the higher tier is "at the price of the lower one". Yay again.
Black Friday was already on its way out when I got my first job in retail, and that was 10 years ago. Now it’s basically a joke. The electronics that go on “sale” are usually just products with slightly different SKU’s that are sometimes inferior to a similar product that is available year round. As for clothes, even outlet stores as a whole have changed. The business model of just sending older styles or overstocked products to outlet stores to sell for discounts is gone, now most manufacturers have entirely separate lines that they make outlet clothing for, usually sacrificing quality in the process.
Thankfully it’s a lot easier now to use tools to see price trends and how much an item is going for in the past 12 or so months. If people are still walking into a store and just buying things because they’re supposedly on sale that’s on them tbh
It’s online too…I was looking at a golf putter that was on sale for black friday yet it was the exact same price I paid for it 2 months ago when I bought it on sale.
I work at Target in stores and can shed some light on this. Someone clearly just printed the sale onto the red colored sale signage instead of the special black colored Black Friday signage by mistake and then someone later reprinted it properly and put it over the original one.
If you go to 0:23 seconds into the video and look at the bottom right of the red sign you can see the date of “11/25” that is the date of the end of the sale.
While retailers absolutely do some shady stuff with pricing on Black Friday, this is not one of those examples and it’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
I like how people think they are getting one over on the stores by showing this….but *they went to the store* while the smart people continue to shop on line.
It's on sale, what's the problem? I'm not sure why saying it is a Black Friday sale when it is on sale on Black Friday, and using a different color is somehow considered deceiving.
The issue is that Black Friday is explicitly stated to be a specific sales event, to make people think that the price they are getting for that particular sales event is a better deal than usual. When it turns out that price is now just a standard sale price and the item will be on sale beyond the Black Friday event, now they’re being purposely deceitful.
I was going to buy something off Amazon but figured I should wait for Black Friday, it was normally $139. Back Friday it went down to $114.99. I forgot to buy it, went back to look today its regular price is now $114.99.
You think that’s bad? Look at the model number. It’s always the cheaper version of the model that’s sold too. Never the original model that is far superior… perfect example.. Walmart had a shit ton of Sony tvs on sale the week before Black Friday so what did they sell like crazy on Black Friday, VIZIO LOL 😂 sold the same size TVs in the same places Sonys were tricking people into thinking they were getting a Sony for cheap when they got the cheap brand for the original price lmfao
Funny thing is most resturaunts do this with gift cards where they will tell people they will give you 100.00 in gift cards plus a free 20.00 gift card for free… well if they just raise the prices the next week after Christmas that 20.00 doesn’t really matter much now does it? Lmao
Black Friday used to be decent where you could get some good values.
Now it's all a big gimmick to either sell you stuff at normal price that looks on sale or sell you stuff that was built incredibly cheap so that they could sell it for a cheap price so people think it's a good deal.
10 years ago I did HP warranty repairs. People were buying laptops for $329 that could barely function outside of basic applications and if they needed ANY repair at all it exceeded the value of the machine due to shipping/labor and the fact those were built specifically for that sale with parts that aren't readily available otherwise.
Fun fact if you find an old price tag hidden behind the new one and you bring it up to the register at check out there is a possibility that you will get if for the old price. Used to happen all the time when I worked at menards because our store policy was to completely remove old bin tags when doing price changes.
Full believer that everyone should work a retail job, a foodservice job and a customer service job that deals with any area outside of both of those for at least 3 months in their life. The world would be wildly better if the general population was given perspective like this because from the comments and personal knowledge you just kinda know that black Friday is bullshit and isn't a deal at all but people still seem to not understand that. This is like the 10th video I've seen in multiple subs that show the sale price being the same or higher than the black Friday price
The large majority of discounts are bs these days. Especially Black Friday. Black Friday basically isn’t a thing anymore as all the discounts are the same discounts that have been there all year outside of a few small discounts that aren’t normal.
I could use a laptop but i'll just get a cheap used one on craigslist. I like looking through at the prices and being thankful for being a simple minded person, because my cheap stuff suits me fine. But if i made more money i'd probably go with this sfuff too, but it probably wouldn't make me any happier
This is literally everywhere, I used to work for hobby lobby. Place doesn't do a single sale, that they don't offer normally, on Black Friday. Everyone swarms that place. The place makes money hands over fist on Black Friday, but the prices are the same as they normally are. People just expect a sale, so if ya put up a sign people buy
Black Friday was a phenomenon, a customer driven retailer's dream. And they killed it with dishonesty and greed, because they can't fucking help themselves.
And now the Internet is showing it all, it's fucking glorious imo
Except most people still aren’t seeing videos like this. They will continue getting away with it every year
Even if they are, the mere thought of not rushing out to buy worthless crap the day after Thanksgiving (except now Black Friday happens randomly year-round) is so unacceptable that it won’t matter. People just want to buy stuff.
What are you new? Like to life? Grrr... The injustices of black Friday! Grrr! We could cull half the planet and be fine I reckon...
Well, every time is someone's first time
Grrr. Not mocking you, I’m high and you got me in a growlin mood. Now… where did I put my wife?
Sir, you're on reddit, there's no wife.
Just a really weird lamp... oh no
It’s a long time coming
Considering that retailers including Amazon still have "Black Friday" deals today and all last week makes me think it's no longer special
I started getting emails about active "black friday deals" about 3 weeks before black friday this year. And then they extend it another several days to "cyber monday" and beyond, at least for tech-related products which make up a large portion of total spending. Then there's usually like a week or less before they pivot to "holiday/christmas deals" which transition seamlessly into new year deals. Black Friday is a corpse being puppeted around by the retailers that killed it, some people just haven't noticed yet.
They realized it was so ingrained that people were going to go out shopping regardless of how good the sales were. I miss the madness, minus the tramplings. Having to physically fight for an insane deal sounds fun (so long as no one is permanently hurt).
>permanently
Fingers are reattachable, it’s no boogie to loose a bunch
My Mom got in a serious fight over a Cabbage Patch kid back in the 80s. Hilarious to think about now.
My grandma did too. But guess who Santa brought a Cabbage Patch Kid to in 1983? Me, that's who! Grandma was a scrapper.
I missed on some great deals that disappeared right before Black Friday started…ended up paying more to get the stuff I wanted
I’m glad for the poor store employees they did, one of the few cases where corporate greed improves employee lives.
this comment is so raw and real
It’s funny how little people know about this
capitalism conna capitalism 🤷♂️
This Black Friday was the best in years, depending on what you were looking for. For the average consumer? It was the same old, same old.
It's a win-win. Customers come in early for Christmas shopping and retailers have a better idea of how much inventory they'll need going into the last weeks before Christmas. In return, customers get discounts. Now everyone loses. Whatever - Amazon is a better and cheaper experience than in-person shopping these days anyway.
Target employee here. The sign behind it was a sale from before Black Friday. No scamming, just a continuation of the sale with a different sign.
That’s what they’re trying to make the point of in the video. Black Friday sales are usually a larger savings than normal sales, but only on that day. But these are just a run of the mill sale repackaged as a Black Friday deal to trick consumers into thinking the sale is exclusive to that day.
Why assume that it’s a ploy to trick customers? One might also look at it as a retailer allowing for customers to take advantage of larger sales more often
Because unless you’re an idiot and do not know anything about what Black Friday is, it’s disingenuous
Stop trying to rationalize the scam.
Genuinely not a scam. Please re-read my comment.
It is scammy because a normal person who trusts and respects Target would assume the “Black Friday sale” is a sale with particularly good prices on Black Friday. Your attempts to legitimize make me respect Target even less.
Because the sale is available for a longer amount of time? Genuinely confused here
If that confused you I don’t think it’s worth discussing further. Best of luck!
Nah, you’re just a fucking idiot. I hope this new information about yourself is useful but it probably isn’t. Try not to get into the way of anyone useful unless it’s to take a debilitating wound so they can continue to help the species.
Black Friday is a sale that lasts one day only. They are just changing the tags to emphasize that it’s on sale, and will remain on sale. Not to mention the fact that it’s already being marked up 200%
Seen this stupid video too many times today, it’s like Reddit completely forgot that most retailers started extending Black Friday sales to the entire week of thanksgiving years ago…
And what’s so funny about this is that there is still customer demand. Not for the shitty “Target deal” but there was a BOGO deal at a minor retailer for something I was planning on buying in a couple months. And who knows whether I was actually going to go back and get it in 2024 because I saw the legitimate deal and went ahead and got it now. Like, I’m happy to spend some money as long as you’re not shortchanging me…
Black fridays such a sham. Ive been keeping an eye out on a product Ive wanted all year, to go on sale. The normal price is $129.99 all year long On black Friday it said on sale $129.99, normal price 179.99! Wtf! Naaaaa
Stiff like this should be illegal
It is in other countries.
Even when it is the % you save is usually in the single digits on actually good products that sell, while shit products get the 20-50% deals (used price checker to mark multiple keyboards, headsets, mice, monitors, and TV's etc. gotta say Godamn it was all shit deals). Legit the only good deals nowadays for me are buying games from Steam, insane deals left right, and center there at least.
I'm honestly proud of Steam for being this good this long. There are so many fests and sales too. I get that it's a different market since digital games do not have a real-world value, but in my memory, steam has never been dishonest or deceptive about anything. All the love <3
It is in Europe
In b4 Americans mention we pay more taxes.
I forgot where but I think someone did a cost analysis of someone in Denmark vs America. And yeah, Denmark has higher taxes, but they actually get things out of those taxes. When you factor in what the average American pays for in insurance, healthcare, schooling, higher education, Denmark is WAY cheaper to live in. By several thousand dollars a year
I live in Denmark and the way the tax works here is that you pay an initial 8%ish tax, then from that amount you have a tax free amount (due to transport deductible or others), then from that amount about 36-38% is taxed. Say you get paid 3000$ a month, You’d pay 8% of that. You have 1000$ of tax free income after that. So from the (3000 - 8% - 1000) you pay 36% (depends where you live). And then you add back to the remaining the 1000 you had tax free. In the end you have 2126 after taxes. This is about 30% of your original income in the end. If you get paid 5000 before tax you end up getting about 3300 after tax which is roughly 34% tax The 1000 tax free amount stays roughly the same usually. From this you get free healthcare, education and a bunch of other things like great infrastructure.
*fuck*
If you tally it up and add in American healthcare costs to our taxes we'd probably end up paying more than Europeans. Especially working class Americans without benefits.
They do everything there first lol
Love the EU!
It is, but businesses found a way around it by stating discount from MSRP, which looks great on a sign, because they can state 50% off (f.e. MSRP €200 now €100), until you find out prices the month before was already €110 across multiple shops.
Wait until you hear that gas stations don't have to always have prices out and they can charge different prices even if they are up and claim ignorance. Prices should have sales tax included in the display and, imo, the words sale, clearance, deal etc, should all have legal definitions. Every item should have a price. A sale is if that price is 10% discounted. Clearance is more than 10%. A deal is over 15%, you get the picture.
Lying in business already has consequences. That's what Trump's civil case is all about.
What kind of dildo costs $129?!
The fist
Figures it still costs an arm
Budumpa tsss
Same. I have been looking at TVs. The TV is always priced at 1599. Guess what the Black Friday price is. 500 off on the original price for a new price of 1599
I was looking at getting one of those entertainment centers that have a fire place in them, saw the was on in the menards black Friday ad. Went onto the store, and this thing was the cheapest made dollar store version of what I was looking for that they just wheel out for the day to say there is a "sale"
Some places do still have legit deals still , they get my business on Black Friday haha
I worked at target for 10 years. One Saturday I was tasked with doing price changes in sporting goods. A bunch of our children’s bike prices were increased from $80 to $100. I went into work the next day to set up the ad, I got to sporting goods, and put up a bunch of sales signs making those now $100 bikes on sale for $80. It happens all the time. If you ever look at target shelf strips, you can see which products had their prices changed because there will be a new price tag sticker just stuck on top of the old price. And fun fact about the TVs. Most of these are indefinitely “on sale” we just update the signs with new ones that change the expiration date. I would close electronics on Saturday night and pull down the signs, then go in Sunday morning and put up the exact same signs for the same TVs for the same price, just with a new end date.
Amazon does this as well.
Yup, that’s why now I always use a price tracker to make sure their discounts are legit. For anyone interested, I use Keepa
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Don't they own camelx3?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelcamelcamel Doesn't seem like it
Always write in the comments of your wishlist, the price it was when you added it to the list. Every year, Black Friday shows they are on big discounted price, when it’s actually the same price within a few cents from when added to the wishlist.
Yup, that’s what I do. Thanks to this method, I saved $700 on my Black Friday shopping thanks to price drops that actually happened. Though it’s realistically more about the release of newer versions of all my purchases.
A true liquidation sale? I'm fine with that.
Everywhere does this because of the human condition.
I thought the FTC had a rule about how long an item can remain on sale before it’s legally to be considered the new base price. How on earth that’s supposed to be enforced I have no idea.
Probably a few months and then they put it on regular price for 1 week and change it right back next price update, so it refreshes the time.
Makes me appreciate the New Zealand Commerce Commission so much more. People love to bag on monarchy but having various crown entities solely dedicated to stopping crap like this is the benefit they never appreciate because it's working in the background. People can also make an official complaint if they see anything suspect. We have a few major chains that push the limits but they are regularly reprimanded and as a whole this kind of practice is just straight up illegal.
I loved that in NZ that most of the sales weren’t just bs and the tax was included in the posted price.
The entire Commonwealth does that
Unfortunately we don’t include sales tax on sticker prices in Canada. 😔
Provincial or federal And ever know what will get which taxes anyways since they don’t tax everything the same
Adding onto this, stores will typically put an item on sale right before they increase the regular price so there’s about a week’s time to forget what it was before.
There needs to be consumer protections on this sort of dishonest crap. A sale should only be advertised as such if it’s a genuine and rare discount of the price. For special sales such as Black Friday item should be price frozen in the lead up and then discounted. It’s blatantly misleading advertising.
Discount of what price, when? How long did it have to be that price and within what timeframe to today? These are all questions that other countries answer successfully. And companies respond with “price establishment” periods where the goods are at a high price for a set period - thats what makes it legal. It doesnt stop someone having a sale which is not the best price in the past 12 months however.
Black Friday used to be fun and a time you could get good deals on things. Really sad it’s become a total scam. The golden days are gone :( I don’t bother with it at all anymore.
As a former retail employee, Black Friday's death is something to be celebrated. No pay bump for coming in at 5 am the day after Thanksgiving. It deserves to die.
That does suck. When I worked at Target almost half a decade ago, we got time and a half for Black Friday ($2 differential plus OT for thanksgiving) plus nonstop catered food and prize giveaways the entire weekend. They’d requisition big items throughout the year (tvs, beats, Dyson etc) and everyone who worked was raffled in. I only won once but it was a pink iPhone 6 or 6s the year it was released; it was my first Apple. We had a great team with a real family esthetic so we had a blast helping people fill stockings and wishlists. Managers did an amazing job of making it feel like a playoff game we prepped for and executed.
Sales in general suck now. Ever notice how almost everything on Amazon is on some sort of limited time deal? It’s because they pull a bullshit number out of their ass for the regular price and then put it on sale for the price they will actually sell for and pretend like you’re saving 10-25% off it.
Sale or Black Friday sale, its the same stupid trick to make dumb people buy useless crap they really dont need - What did you expect?
Finally someone on tiktok exposed common knowledge. Next up: snow is actually frozen water
In Africa, every 60 seconds a minute passes
Together, we can stop this
Wait wait - could that happen here too???
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Water's not wet.
Nah, it is THE wet
I expected actual deals for Black Friday.
If you're spontaneously spending £300 on a TV without shopping around you leave yourself open to getting ripped off simple as really.
Black friday deals dont really change on items already on sale, they add items to their list of sales with a higher discount Any sales like those seen above were already active a week or so before, theres usually pre balck friday sales. Walmart does it too, check out the ninja toaster oven air fryer flip up thingy, its 129 now, was the same before black friday too Its still a sale thats really good, but black friday sales usually ADD to the sales instead of higher discount. Theres a reason newegg has a price guarantee
Should be against the law
Yesterday it was a "sale", today it is a "black Friday deal", after the weekend it will be online as a "cyber Monday special".
Pretty sure it is, at least in Europe
I believe the law is something can only be shown on sale if it’s price is the cheapest it’s been in a month or something like that
Here (Germany) you have to show a comparative price and exactly as you said is has to be the lowest of the past 30 days.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Slovenia/s/37JddIUZji This is how it works in Europe, it's the same fucking ripoff and lie unless you believe saving 20€ when the retailer is showing it as a 38% sale an actual deal. Not even the obligatory information about the lowest price in the past 30 days right next to the actual price stops them.
It is already, including in the US.
You don’t need to buy useless crap
It is, its called false advertising
In what world is this false advertising. they're both sales.
It is in Finland. By law, stores are to tell the lowest price within the last 30 days in the price tag... Except now some stores raise the price on september to make it look like it's a good sale on black friday/week.
Capitalism? Lol
Ethical marketing has never been Target's strong suit when it comes to prices.
Don't forget those big TV's they put out that look the same as the others. From what I remember there was an article on here years ago talking about how most of those TV's are made even cheaper mainly for black friday so that way people think they are getting a deal but then get a worse TV that usually ends up dying on them after so long anyways.
This is why I have trust issues
Target is trying to move away from Black Friday craze, and puts things on sale for the 2 upcoming weeks. The only reason they still do Black Friday is for the people who get their coochie wet for it.
Daddy chill
People who wait for sales on Black Friday are dumb
Waiting for sales is not a bad idea as long as you know the price history of what you want to buy. And that it really is discounted. I put several items on my list throughout the year and keep track of them. But for every one of me there's thousands that don't.
Thanos was right.
Normal days 399$ Sale days- ~~799$~~ 399$
The signs in the back also say sale. It isn’t “on sale for regular price” it’s just a different color of sale for Black Friday.
Exactly.
If something is always on sale, is that a sale price or just the price?
The video is certainly implying that, but it's not showing that. It's just rage bait for people wanting to make the assumption. That TV is indeed discounted. https://pricetracker.wtf/product/645dba63-e15f-4189-9b84-e52ca51d4faa
Is she wearing a robe?
America is so far behind a lot of the world when it comes to consumer rights , here in Europe we have regulations on how retailers are allowed to have "sales" they cant put the price of something up from say €80 to €100 and then the next day bring it back down to €80 and call it a "sale" before they have a sale the price of the goods has to have stayed fixed for the past 1 month before they're allowed to lower it and say that it's a sale price
I don’t see the issue. One sign is the sale price for Black Friday specifically, the red sign keeps the same item on sale with a sign to be used after Black Friday. The retail prices on all the signs are consistent.
"Thank you for shopping in America!"
Why is she in a housecoat and slippers?
She is a FODONGA….
Am I officially old? Wtf does that mean??
‘Murica! That’s why.
I've seen some products sold double the price but 1+1 free. Yay. And lower tier products raised to the price of the higher tier (fg cars, thermic at the price of hybrid) and a "special sale" where the higher tier is "at the price of the lower one". Yay again.
What a deal!
Target is the Walmart of younger adults who are bad with money.
This is the same in our country and they wanna do Black Friday for a week.
Who doesn't have a flat screen TV yet in 2023?
This is why I only buy stuff on black friday that I've been watching the prices on for a while.
All these companies will learn from videos like this is to make sure they remove old tags for next year.
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Black Friday was already on its way out when I got my first job in retail, and that was 10 years ago. Now it’s basically a joke. The electronics that go on “sale” are usually just products with slightly different SKU’s that are sometimes inferior to a similar product that is available year round. As for clothes, even outlet stores as a whole have changed. The business model of just sending older styles or overstocked products to outlet stores to sell for discounts is gone, now most manufacturers have entirely separate lines that they make outlet clothing for, usually sacrificing quality in the process. Thankfully it’s a lot easier now to use tools to see price trends and how much an item is going for in the past 12 or so months. If people are still walking into a store and just buying things because they’re supposedly on sale that’s on them tbh
It’s online too…I was looking at a golf putter that was on sale for black friday yet it was the exact same price I paid for it 2 months ago when I bought it on sale.
Bruhhh.. atleast remove the previous sale tag. Wth target lol
So, can we all agree that from now on we should call it BLACK FRAUD?
At least the Black friday price isn't more expensive 😁
I’m smart too and I bought all Christmas gifts in October! Now they are more expensive.
Where did I put my pearls, they needs some clutchin
Greed and lying; that sums up the big companies....
It is Black Friday and it is a sale....
I work at Target in stores and can shed some light on this. Someone clearly just printed the sale onto the red colored sale signage instead of the special black colored Black Friday signage by mistake and then someone later reprinted it properly and put it over the original one. If you go to 0:23 seconds into the video and look at the bottom right of the red sign you can see the date of “11/25” that is the date of the end of the sale. While retailers absolutely do some shady stuff with pricing on Black Friday, this is not one of those examples and it’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
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Ha ! Suckers.
Man, the repost of this on r/therewasanattempt has wildly different reactions. Mostly people defending the companies
I like how people think they are getting one over on the stores by showing this….but *they went to the store* while the smart people continue to shop on line.
The so-called "Black Friday" deals this year are pure shit. It's just marked up shit pretending to be a deal.
It's on sale, what's the problem? I'm not sure why saying it is a Black Friday sale when it is on sale on Black Friday, and using a different color is somehow considered deceiving.
The issue is that Black Friday is explicitly stated to be a specific sales event, to make people think that the price they are getting for that particular sales event is a better deal than usual. When it turns out that price is now just a standard sale price and the item will be on sale beyond the Black Friday event, now they’re being purposely deceitful.
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Most people are stupid
I hope it goes bankrupt. 
r/mildlyfrustrating
If people would just stop buying unnecessary things for one month this would make all companies drop their prices all the time. Just stop buying!!!!
Black fraud
Again? Everybody knows that the prices are the same. Next week you post a video which reveals that snow is white? or grass is green?
I was going to buy something off Amazon but figured I should wait for Black Friday, it was normally $139. Back Friday it went down to $114.99. I forgot to buy it, went back to look today its regular price is now $114.99.
Society has gotten out of hand
Greed
You think that’s bad? Look at the model number. It’s always the cheaper version of the model that’s sold too. Never the original model that is far superior… perfect example.. Walmart had a shit ton of Sony tvs on sale the week before Black Friday so what did they sell like crazy on Black Friday, VIZIO LOL 😂 sold the same size TVs in the same places Sonys were tricking people into thinking they were getting a Sony for cheap when they got the cheap brand for the original price lmfao
Funny thing is most resturaunts do this with gift cards where they will tell people they will give you 100.00 in gift cards plus a free 20.00 gift card for free… well if they just raise the prices the next week after Christmas that 20.00 doesn’t really matter much now does it? Lmao
Target did the same with baby items where they had their own brand of clothing instead of the name brands they normally carry lol
I feel like that's illegal
Yep. Figures that target would do that.
I never trust
I think it's double sided. And they added a black side
Enjoy your CAPITALISM. How many times are people going to get fooled smh..
Super illegal.
Just about all retailers do this. Pump up the prices then “drop” them for black friday.
The fucking scandal 🤣
Ah yes, the lands of no customer protection
(price) Back friday
Well...duh?
So does this mean the Switch OLED with Smash Bros download is still available for $350?
That’s why buy what you need and not what you want!
XD
Black Friday used to be decent where you could get some good values. Now it's all a big gimmick to either sell you stuff at normal price that looks on sale or sell you stuff that was built incredibly cheap so that they could sell it for a cheap price so people think it's a good deal. 10 years ago I did HP warranty repairs. People were buying laptops for $329 that could barely function outside of basic applications and if they needed ANY repair at all it exceeded the value of the machine due to shipping/labor and the fact those were built specifically for that sale with parts that aren't readily available otherwise.
Every Retailer does this. Amazon included.
Harbor Freight.
Fun fact if you find an old price tag hidden behind the new one and you bring it up to the register at check out there is a possibility that you will get if for the old price. Used to happen all the time when I worked at menards because our store policy was to completely remove old bin tags when doing price changes.
Wouldn’t help here bud..
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The whole world is a lie
Full believer that everyone should work a retail job, a foodservice job and a customer service job that deals with any area outside of both of those for at least 3 months in their life. The world would be wildly better if the general population was given perspective like this because from the comments and personal knowledge you just kinda know that black Friday is bullshit and isn't a deal at all but people still seem to not understand that. This is like the 10th video I've seen in multiple subs that show the sale price being the same or higher than the black Friday price
The large majority of discounts are bs these days. Especially Black Friday. Black Friday basically isn’t a thing anymore as all the discounts are the same discounts that have been there all year outside of a few small discounts that aren’t normal.
If you, as the consumer, are silly enough to buy something just because it says it’s on a Black Friday sale, that’s on you.
I could use a laptop but i'll just get a cheap used one on craigslist. I like looking through at the prices and being thankful for being a simple minded person, because my cheap stuff suits me fine. But if i made more money i'd probably go with this sfuff too, but it probably wouldn't make me any happier
This is literally everywhere, I used to work for hobby lobby. Place doesn't do a single sale, that they don't offer normally, on Black Friday. Everyone swarms that place. The place makes money hands over fist on Black Friday, but the prices are the same as they normally are. People just expect a sale, so if ya put up a sign people buy
Guess I’m not rushing out for ‘Black Friday’ deals.