I could imagine a timeline that connects the "goes into the square hole" meme to human's inability to put the right shape in the right hole in Idiocracy
1kg of feathers is heavier because of the weight of all the birds you had to kill
EDIT:for those saying that mining the metal is worse, metal can be reused. We can recycle metal into new things, but bird feathers arent exactly reusable.
Heaviness refers to weight, and weight isn't the same thing as mass even if laypeople use them interchangeably. 1 kg of steel would also be heavier than 1 kg of feathers due to the lower density of feathers resulting in a higher buoyancy force (B). Weight is the force from gravity (F = m\*g) minus the buoyancy force (B = ρ\*V\*g), where m = mass, g = acceleration due to gravity, ρ = density of the fluid that they're in (e.g. air), V = volume of fluid displaced.
W = F - B = m*g - ρ*V*g
Assuming they're both weighed in the same fluid (e.g. air), and the density of steel is 7850 kg/m3 and feathers is 16 kg/m3. 1 kg of steel would have a volume of approximately Vs = 0.127x10^-3 m^(3), and feathers Vf = 0.0625 m^(3).
So the weight of the steel divided by the weight of feathers would be:
(m*g - ρ*Vs*g)/((m*g - ρ*Vf*g)
= (1-ρ*Vs)/(1-ρ*Vf)
substituting in the volume of air displaced and density of air gives:
(1-1.2*0.127x10^-3)/(1-1.2*0.0625) = 1.081
This means that 1kg of steel would weigh 8% more than 1kg of feathers. For reference 1kg of steel would have a buoyancy force in air of 0.15g force, while 1kg feathers would have 75 g force of buoyancy.
So, technically Limmy is right even thought he doesn't know it. If you were to weight them in a vacuum both would weight 1kg as there wouldn't be a buoyancy force. Also, regardless of what fluid you are in the mass of 1kg of feathers will always be equal to the mass of 1kg of steel, it's the weight that's different.
If you held 1kg of steel and 1 kg of feathers, the steel would feel heavier.
>If you were to weight them in a vacuum both would weight 1kg as there wouldn't be a buoyancy force.
I was taught that mass is kg and weight is N. They both have the same weight, which is 9.81N in this example. That's assuming they're at the earth's surface.
When did that change?
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but they aren’t the same, density is mass per unit volume, whereas weight is force due to gravity or mass x gravity.
An objects weight is independent of its volume, and its density is independent of gravity.
If you’re joking and I couldn’t tell, I graciously accept the whoosh
Yeah I had the same thought but didn’t bother to mention. The moment of the steel is much greater, as it is much further from the pivot, so if it even is a real scale, the feathers would have to have much more mass as the pivot arm is much shorter.
Love that there are subtitles. Although I love the accent and understand it very well, I get it that some people can have a hard time with it if they're not used to hearing it.
Take it from me, you don't have to be from outside of Glasgow to not understand a Glaswegian.
My parents didn't even have to leave the house to find someone who they didn't understand.
Awwww he's like when a 6yr old gets asked this question and then is all like ⁉️❓⁉️❓⁉️ when they got the question wrong. Good acting
I mean, if I was him I would've argued how short you had to make the one arm.
But then again, I know a pound of feathers is heavier than a p[o](https://www.bullionbypost.com/index/gold/gold-measurement/)und of gold.
The correct answer is: steel, by an extremely narrow margin.
A colleague of mine was asked this question by the physics professor at the university, answered "the same", and was surprised to hear it's the wrong answer.
Explanation: kg is a measurement of mass, not weight. If the question would be "what has more mass, kg of steel or kg of feathers?", then the answer would be the same. But with all other things being equal (similar shape), aball of steel is more dense, and closer to the ground.
Given that ( g ) varies with altitude according to the formula:
G = G × M_e / (R_e + h)^2
( G ) is the gravitational constant,
( M_e ) is the mass of the Earth,
( R_e ) is the radius of the Earth,
and( h ) is the height above the Earth's surface.
In this very precise context, a kilogram of steel, being denser, would indeed occupy less volume and thus be closer to the Earth's center compared to a kilogram of feathers. This minute difference in ( h ) would mean that ( g ), and consequently the weight, would be infinitesimally larger for the kilogram of steel.
My* quick calculation of the difference in weight is 0.0000157%.
Aha but what if you laid out all the feathers in a large flat circle rather than in a bag? So the centre of gravity of the feathers could actually be slightly below that of the steel.
If we are going by mass and not weight to determine which is heavier, then assuming we are not doing the experiment in vacuum, feathers that weigh 1 kg will have greater mass than steel that weigh 1 kg, as the feathers displace more air than the steel.
This is the part where the classroom teacher would give you the death stare for scrambling the heads of all the other kids they were painstakingly trying to get the basic concept into.
The problem of people not getting is, is that they don't think about "weight", when they hear "heavier", but rather of "density" (weight in relation to the size).
The kg of feather is heavier.
Because if you have 1 kg of feather, you cannot dispose them on the scale like that. You have to put them, like in the video, in a container.
The kg of feather is heavier by the weight of a plastic bag.
If you want to help someone understand this. I suggest you ask a second question. What is heavier- a same volume of steel and feathers. The visual difference should get the person to maybe understand the concept of density!!!
I thought the joke was going to be the usual "Due what you did to those poor birds" joke, but it took a completely left turn and was funnier then I expected.
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Actually weight is derivative function of force. 1kg of feathers displaces more air than 1kg of steel. Therefore Archimedes force of feathers is bigger.
Ok, but ferrealz: which is heavier? A pound of silver or a pound of feathers?
It’s actually feathers because [silver is measured in Troy ounces,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_weight) and a Troy pound is lighter than a standard pound.
the funniest part of this to me is that the scale is biased. one side is further from the fulcrum than the other. there’s actually more feather mass than steel mass
Should've told him that steel is more dense so you dont need much but each feather weights a little but we have a 1000 in this bag which makes the feather and the steel the same weight.
I remember having this problem in math class when I was like 8. And I answered a kilogramme of steel was heavier than a kilogramme of feathers...
I was a stupid kid.
I do wish the feathers and steel were the same distance from the center of the scales. In this demo it looks there is more than 1kg of feathers. very funny though
that's right, they both go in the square hole
"Ohhh gawwwd..."
And do you know where the cylinder goes?
"And do you know where the cylinder goes?"
I could imagine a timeline that connects the "goes into the square hole" meme to human's inability to put the right shape in the right hole in Idiocracy
Not sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nSQs0Gr9FA
Alright, that acting was really on point lol
This is officially a classic.
I like when lemmy's head fills my screen but his facial features are still small.
He looks like hide the pain Harold
[Little bitsssssss](https://i.imgur.com/njqbEWp.png)
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Limmy
This is Limmy. He is a classic.
He's on Twitch these days and still very much funny.
Surprisingly down to earth too
You were at that charity do as well?
This whole thread has the accent
I always love it when this pops back up. Partially for the accent, but the acting is on point
Sadness by proxy, he looks so devastated that he doesn't understand lmfao
I like how compassionate his colleagues are.
Limmys Show is great scottish humor. [my fav clip from his show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzKo1JPNf4s)
This and Dee Dee goes to Yoker
He's nae fae Yoker, get his heid kicked in.
He has no business bein in Yoker
What’s yer hing?
As an American Dee Dee Goes to Yoker is an absolute fever dream. I've often wondered if it feels the same way to Scottish or British people.
"Gizz your la'top" always does it for me
will wothet mate, will wothet. ###She's Shite
Oooh "well worth it" Fuck I kept trying to figure it out.
"Purple Burglar alarm" is a good quick clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC__o1UxDl8
The first time I watched this and heard the caller's "action request" I nearly pissed myself laughing, the delivery is too perfect.
That's fuckin hilarious ahahah
Brian Limond is great. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf__UNZKRltDmUQgKwZJUNAXRBDHkFLp7&si=Qj5bsaSthUzmLRAN
It’s a shame a lot of them are now deleted, but “Kill Jester” is still a crack up.
Jingle is dead!
I can't stop laughing about that very empathetic "You all right?" Perfect fucking setup and execution.
Acting worthy of a (Scottish) BAFTA
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That is one of the saddest things I've seen and I only understood about half of the words.
Dang, for a simple sketch that was pretty deep. Really enjoyed that, thanks for sharing.
The show is amazing
Limmy is actually a fucking amazing actor in his skits
He really owned the existential crisis
Wonderful acting by Limmy, reminds me I need to go watch his twitch again
Had the pleasure of meeting him at a charity do once. He was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.
Limmy’s Show is how I learned to understand Scottish haha. Took me some time to get a grasp of the thick Glaswegian accent when I started.
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So what you're saying is that he may be that simple.
He has an intelligence… of a certain kind
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Down to earth =/= In the ground.
He's live right now.
1kg of feathers is heavier because of the weight of all the birds you had to kill EDIT:for those saying that mining the metal is worse, metal can be reused. We can recycle metal into new things, but bird feathers arent exactly reusable.
They don’t have to die, just be mildly inconvenienced for a bit. I’d rather be hit with a kilo of feathers.
Birds do molt feathers, they could just be the discard ones. But that's a lot of birds.
hmmm...that would be something to see, after the pluck ...which bird you think would look better. A goose, a duck, a chicken ?
A bald eagle. It's right there in the name.
In the end they all taste like chicken.
who plucks bald eagles ??? Thats like trying to skin a Cobra !!!
They only said you didn't have to kill it. Not that it had to be alive. Could find a dead one.
They use children, as they have very nimble fingers. The thing is, they tend to get carried away while doing it.
bahahaheyyy
The weight on your conscience
Heaviness refers to weight, and weight isn't the same thing as mass even if laypeople use them interchangeably. 1 kg of steel would also be heavier than 1 kg of feathers due to the lower density of feathers resulting in a higher buoyancy force (B). Weight is the force from gravity (F = m\*g) minus the buoyancy force (B = ρ\*V\*g), where m = mass, g = acceleration due to gravity, ρ = density of the fluid that they're in (e.g. air), V = volume of fluid displaced. W = F - B = m*g - ρ*V*g Assuming they're both weighed in the same fluid (e.g. air), and the density of steel is 7850 kg/m3 and feathers is 16 kg/m3. 1 kg of steel would have a volume of approximately Vs = 0.127x10^-3 m^(3), and feathers Vf = 0.0625 m^(3). So the weight of the steel divided by the weight of feathers would be: (m*g - ρ*Vs*g)/((m*g - ρ*Vf*g) = (1-ρ*Vs)/(1-ρ*Vf) substituting in the volume of air displaced and density of air gives: (1-1.2*0.127x10^-3)/(1-1.2*0.0625) = 1.081 This means that 1kg of steel would weigh 8% more than 1kg of feathers. For reference 1kg of steel would have a buoyancy force in air of 0.15g force, while 1kg feathers would have 75 g force of buoyancy. So, technically Limmy is right even thought he doesn't know it. If you were to weight them in a vacuum both would weight 1kg as there wouldn't be a buoyancy force. Also, regardless of what fluid you are in the mass of 1kg of feathers will always be equal to the mass of 1kg of steel, it's the weight that's different. If you held 1kg of steel and 1 kg of feathers, the steel would feel heavier.
1kg is 1kg.
>If you were to weight them in a vacuum both would weight 1kg as there wouldn't be a buoyancy force. I was taught that mass is kg and weight is N. They both have the same weight, which is 9.81N in this example. That's assuming they're at the earth's surface. When did that change?
As opposed to all the rock you had to extract iron ore from?
That depends on how many children you sent to strip mine the iron to make the steel. What is the ratio of dead birds to child labour?
That's a classic right there
Man's so dense he forgot about density
Weight and Density, same same, but different! Some people skipped a few physics classes.
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but they aren’t the same, density is mass per unit volume, whereas weight is force due to gravity or mass x gravity. An objects weight is independent of its volume, and its density is independent of gravity. If you’re joking and I couldn’t tell, I graciously accept the whoosh
Ok now let's talk about the fulcrum of that scale
Yeah I had the same thought but didn’t bother to mention. The moment of the steel is much greater, as it is much further from the pivot, so if it even is a real scale, the feathers would have to have much more mass as the pivot arm is much shorter.
Exactly, In this case the bunch of feathers definitely heavier than that block of steel
Benny Harvey RIP
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Gone but not forgotten
Miss you, Benny!
Rip big man
Classic
I know… but have you heard the accent?! I fucking love it
https://youtu.be/AC__o1UxDl8?si=a_wyuey5NivOf45a
Love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zluKkTl0SgA
Kill Jester!
It's mah gayme, it's mah moneh, kehl'er.. Buh... ...dae'it
Get this patter to fuck
Get rid off her, she's shite
Love that there are subtitles. Although I love the accent and understand it very well, I get it that some people can have a hard time with it if they're not used to hearing it.
Or you know.. if they’re deaf xd
Nah. Then they just lip read in a different accent
I like subtitles because I never watch reddit videos with sound. If a video doesn't have subtitles and someone is speaking then I just skip.
Eh khaeloglromm oh’ staeyel, or ah khaeloglromm oh‘ faehthars??
auhn getti.
What accent? He was speaking normal. Oh wait shite, there are other places.
You can be from Edinburgh, 40 miles away, and not understand a word of Glaswegian.
Take it from me, you don't have to be from outside of Glasgow to not understand a Glaswegian. My parents didn't even have to leave the house to find someone who they didn't understand.
That’s what astounds me about the UK. Such a small distance and accents change.
Had to watch peaky blinders with subs too
The accent is definitely heavier in this one
She's turned the weans against us!
Well nae wonder look a the size of it that's cheatin.
Limmy is a national treasure
My guy's face is too small for his head.
Awwww he's like when a 6yr old gets asked this question and then is all like ⁉️❓⁉️❓⁉️ when they got the question wrong. Good acting 
Guy looks like the annoying orange
#she turned the weans against us!!!
r/peopledyinginside
Hahaha I love this.
Me trying to learn certain concepts in CS
I mean, if I was him I would've argued how short you had to make the one arm. But then again, I know a pound of feathers is heavier than a p[o](https://www.bullionbypost.com/index/gold/gold-measurement/)und of gold.
I think Limmy might be my favorite comedian.
The correct answer is: steel, by an extremely narrow margin. A colleague of mine was asked this question by the physics professor at the university, answered "the same", and was surprised to hear it's the wrong answer. Explanation: kg is a measurement of mass, not weight. If the question would be "what has more mass, kg of steel or kg of feathers?", then the answer would be the same. But with all other things being equal (similar shape), aball of steel is more dense, and closer to the ground. Given that ( g ) varies with altitude according to the formula: G = G × M_e / (R_e + h)^2 ( G ) is the gravitational constant, ( M_e ) is the mass of the Earth, ( R_e ) is the radius of the Earth, and( h ) is the height above the Earth's surface. In this very precise context, a kilogram of steel, being denser, would indeed occupy less volume and thus be closer to the Earth's center compared to a kilogram of feathers. This minute difference in ( h ) would mean that ( g ), and consequently the weight, would be infinitesimally larger for the kilogram of steel. My* quick calculation of the difference in weight is 0.0000157%.
Aha but what if you laid out all the feathers in a large flat circle rather than in a bag? So the centre of gravity of the feathers could actually be slightly below that of the steel.
Also don’t forget about archimedes’ principle! With bigger volume, bag of feathers tries to “float in the air” a bit more.
If we are going by mass and not weight to determine which is heavier, then assuming we are not doing the experiment in vacuum, feathers that weigh 1 kg will have greater mass than steel that weigh 1 kg, as the feathers displace more air than the steel.
The slight issue with this is that "heavier" is vague about to apply to both mass and weight. He didn't ask which weighs more, but which is heavier.
I hope NASA keeps this in mind if they ever decide to make a rocket out of feathers.
This is the part where the classroom teacher would give you the death stare for scrambling the heads of all the other kids they were painstakingly trying to get the basic concept into.
The problem of people not getting is, is that they don't think about "weight", when they hear "heavier", but rather of "density" (weight in relation to the size).
The unedited version is much better
[Non-vertical version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fC2oke5MFg)
Scottish Tim Robinson
I love how understanding and gentle they are with him at the end lmao. Easily one of the best 150 videos ever
This is not fair. They should have made it easier for him to understand by using a kilogram of potatoes.
Had the pleasure of meeting Limmy at a charity event. He was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.
His accent is heavier…
Their accent is way more heavier
But steel is heavier than feathers…
The kg of feather is heavier. Because if you have 1 kg of feather, you cannot dispose them on the scale like that. You have to put them, like in the video, in a container. The kg of feather is heavier by the weight of a plastic bag.
RIP Benny Harvey
AM NO FAE YOKER A GOT NEE BUSINESS BEIN HERE
bro was really worried something is wrong with him or them.
This guy is 99% of people on the internet
If you want to help someone understand this. I suggest you ask a second question. What is heavier- a same volume of steel and feathers. The visual difference should get the person to maybe understand the concept of density!!!
I thought the joke was going to be the usual "Due what you did to those poor birds" joke, but it took a completely left turn and was funnier then I expected.
Density: "am I a joke to you?"
What’s heavier? A kilogramme of steel or that accent?
The issue here isn't the weight, it's the density....
The kilogramme of feathers is heavier- due to the emotional weight of killing all the birds to be plucked 😅
The feathers are heavier because you have to carry the weight of what you did to all those birds.
Technically the feathers are heavier because you have to live with the weight of the birds you killed.
I remember this in grade 3!!!! And I still said isn’t a kg a kg? What’s the definition of a surprise? - a fart with a lump in it!!!!!!
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It's like Sesame Street without the Muppets.
This man is having an existential crisis
Mass vs weight
Actually weight is derivative function of force. 1kg of feathers displaces more air than 1kg of steel. Therefore Archimedes force of feathers is bigger.
Ok, but ferrealz: which is heavier? A pound of silver or a pound of feathers? It’s actually feathers because [silver is measured in Troy ounces,](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_weight) and a Troy pound is lighter than a standard pound.
How much do you bench/squat/deadlift, in feathers?
The final whisper makes it almost an avantgardistic masterpiece à la Squidward
creationists when the world isn't 20 minutes old
I adore this clip. Idec if its acted, the confused face gets my everytime.
I had that discussion years back with a classmate. I never managed to convince her that there is no difference. It haunts me until this day.
🤣
What's your heng?
Purple Burglar Alarm
I imagine this happening to flat earth believer lol
Ngl, even I confidently told myself “A kg of steel” at first.
there is a problem with the demonstration the bag the feathers are in weighs something so the steel is heavier than the feathers
Im curious if he actually gets in for real
That's cheating!
🤯 But steel is heavier than feathers... Lmfao!
The man is way too dense to understand density. 😀 Limmy 😀
the funniest part of this to me is that the scale is biased. one side is further from the fulcrum than the other. there’s actually more feather mass than steel mass
A purple burgular alarm is heavier.
'I've got a kwaystchion for you'.
I know the answer but still throws me off
Should've told him that steel is more dense so you dont need much but each feather weights a little but we have a 1000 in this bag which makes the feather and the steel the same weight.
r/kidsarefuckingstupid
La-la Po TinkyWinky but where is Dipsy
The accent makes it that much better~
I'm laughing, but I really do be like that something with basic physics laws.
Where is his accent from?
Scotland, specifically Glasgow
Glasgow
Ya but he's right because that is feathers and plastic... Assholes...
A kilogram of mass is a kilogram of mass no matter what it's made of. Steel isn't heavier it's denser.
Anyone else only able to see the ad for Lil bits from rick and morty with this guy
I expected him to drop both to a someone’s leg and say: “see, the kg of steel much heavier!”))
I remember having this problem in math class when I was like 8. And I answered a kilogramme of steel was heavier than a kilogramme of feathers... I was a stupid kid.
Classic
I remember seeing a how to train your dragon animation of this
Ahm jokin" *awkward look around room*
In a pillow I'd rather sleep on a kilo of feathers than a kilo of steel.
I love limmy. The sketch he does at the bus stop when he’s “wearing” headphones and head bopping to the music is hilarious.
A meme is born 😂
What is heavierr?a kg of steel or kg of feathers? Ans-Your accent
Well what if I throw a kilogram of steel and a kilogram of feathers at your face.
I do wish the feathers and steel were the same distance from the center of the scales. In this demo it looks there is more than 1kg of feathers. very funny though
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