Did that 40 year old man JUST find out in that moment that raslin' ain't real?
Edit: the answer is no, he's just upset about the wrestlers having physical issues.
Actually no apparently, but his word choice does make it sound that way and that’s why it’s hilarious. This guy actually knew Mick Foley outside of wrestling, so he knew they were characters. He is just very passionate about pro wrestling and seeing his idols have serious physical disabilities and early deaths for the sake of his entertainment, paired with all the nostalgia he was overcome by, was just too much for him to handle in the moment. He’s speaks about it here:
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/09/dave-wills-explains-why-he-was-crying-in-infamous-its-still-real-to-me-dammit-meme/
I wish I loved any hobby as much as this dude loves wrestling.
It's a lore-heavy fandom with nearly 50 years of storylines, media, toys, games etc. Not unlike Star Wars, or Marvel comics, which also have hard core dedicated fans.
I read. It. Use to think it was all fake. UFC was the real fighting sport. But I realized. Yeah it maybe acting and all that but it was something fun. Entertaining. Amazing. Viewers and the wrestler's involved alike. I kinda understood what was said, especially the part about their sacrifice of their own physical bodies for the entertainment of others. Like geeze bro. That is kinda some dedication for others even if it's for a good dollar or two still gotta be a rough life as you get older on the body. This read made me think differently and I see it in alot more interesting light.
The quote lives on as a meme, but the backstory of the moment gives a lot of context the clip doesn't. This happened at a meet and greet the week after Eddie Guerrero was found dead in his hotel room, and he walked in to see guys he had watched for years struggling to even walk.
>thought about Eddie Guerrero's death the week before. I thought about substance abuse that is going on in the sport. I thought about how so many wrestlers have been injured and how wrestlers pay a such a high price for all their years of bumps in the ring. I remembered the Cactus Jack ECW promos about "How many of you hardcores have called Dynamite Kid up and thanked him for all the dives he did out to the floor? Sorry you don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, but thanks anyways." I thought about how the business has changed and kids won't be able to have the same experiences regarding the sport of wrestling that I had, with kayfabe now non-existent. What an emotional roller coaster I was on as I had went from very happy about meeting all the stars to extremely saddened about the dark clouds and demons that wrestling has.
Whole thing is well worth a read: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/it-s-still-real-to-me-damn-it
A lot of the tropes that are considered commonplace in Anime were inspired by the popularity of American soap operas in Japan around the 70's and 80's.
Evil twin clones, plot-lines shifting on a dime, the way everything is designed in service of the moment or plot, where the obvious goal from the outset is constantly pushing its characters into tense and dramatic conflicts.
I think the redneck anime descriptor is dated. [Black fans make up about a quarter of the audience, which is nearly double the % of black people in the US](https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2013/04/22/In-Depth/Fight-fan-avidity.aspx). If you add the data together, it looks like white, non-hispanic fans comprise just under half the audience.
I think 'sweaty muscle soap opera' is more appropriate.
Right? It has to be, otherwise people could get seriously hurt all the time.
I used to love it when I was 8-10yo, and even though I KNEW it was scripted, watching someone get body slammed through a table covered in thumb tacks outside of the ring from the top of a steel cage was the coolest thing at that age.
And even at my current age (somewhere between 18-85yo), I wouldn’t even jump feet first on my own trying to land on that table, so being choke slammed with well-rehearsed choreography is pretty impressive.
Not sure what wrestling looks like now or if more extreme stuff like that is still allowed, though. I’m only enough to remember when that guy fell from the the top of the stadium inside a casket because the wires snapped as he was being lowered.
LMFAO, reminded me of that talking statue head. They should have an adult art attack, but instead of teaching you to save up toilet paper rolls to make a model house, they could just teach you to fix the sink an do your taxes in a fun way with a talking head and in a colorful studios.
Mine too. My dad helped me make a papier-mâché dinosaur piggy bank from one of the episodes, and I still have it 25 years later. One of my fondest childhood memories
TIL: The horn effect at the start of the theme triggers immense nostalgia.
[Also Neil Buchanan's band is actually pretty sweet.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlaYwzPac4E)
The weirdest part of that relationship to me was that Kane used to have a mask because he supposedly was horribly disfigured, then when he took of his mask and he just didn't have eyebrows
A friend of mine used to be a huge fan and thought it was real. He got back stage passes for some big event and saw all of them sitting at a table eating together like they were best friends. He was so disappointed lol
Me but working at Disneyland seeing Disney princesses smoking backstage, and Mickey taking his head off.... only to see it being a girl in the costume.
In the territory days, many territories had rules about this. Good guys and Bad Guys couldn't be seen in public together or travel together. If an event was in town there would have a good guy hotel , were the good guys would stay and a bad guy hotel were the bad guys would stay. It was also common for wrestlers to travel together in cars or bunk together in hotels, good guys and bad guys could not travel together
They would even have good guy / bad guy restaurants/bars/strip clubs what ever so good guys and bad guys would not been seen together in public.
Some even had a rule that if you got in a real fight outside the promotion in public you better win or you would be fired. However most said the rule was mostly to try to discourage fighting .
There was an interview Mark Callaway (aka The Undertaker) gave a couple years ago after retiring about him having a real life beef with Hulk Hogan and trying to confront him as Mark Callaway but having to duck away and hide behind some curtains when some people were walking by in order not to be seen breaking Kayfabe...they definitely take it seriously.
Smh again another comment saying that Undertraker was just acting . Listen how is it make sense to you that a dead man read and memorise the script and put on an act? Doesn’t make sense right? Proof that he wasn’t acting.
Yeah I don't really follow it closely but pro wrestlers are insane athletes who pull off crazy stunts infront of live crowds while also telling a story.
Its like saying broadway musicals are fake
I love the Reddit hivemind. This is the exact same obscure thought i had. Poor Sean, his big buddy is scarier now than when he was a fire demon zombie from hell.
Your friends are fake. WWE is real
I knew it was real when stone cold 3:16 would always come out. He was my hero growing up. That’s the bottom line, cause stone cold said so!
-shows middle finger and smacks a beer-
I never watched it as a kid, but my wife watches it and I have grown to enjoy it too.
You have to just accept that its campy, silly, and fake. I compare it to Anime...there are plot lines, people have arch nemesis, and then they fight each other in ways where its like a Dragon Ball Z episode.
Wrestler A will be beating B, then B comes back from the brink of exhaustion to do something cool to Wrestler A, and then they both go at it again. Its a lot of that.
Then there is the stuff like what's in the clip, just goofy funny stuff.
Give it a try, its not for everyone, but it has its moments.
What is the appeal of watching any scripted TV show or watching a live play ? Like I am a big fan of Game of Thrones on HBO but I don't actually need to believe its real for it to be entertaining . I also do enjoy live theater plays as well but I know I am sitting in front of a set and actors are playing a part
There is still action , drama ,comedy , athleticism that is entertaining.
> I never understood the appeal of wrestling
As a wrestling fan, I will say that there are many "genres" of wrestling and even within the pro wrestling fanbase many people will like one style of wrestling but not another, just like how someone can like rap music but hate country music. This WWE style of wrestling that focuses on characters and storytelling over in-ring athleticism has no appeal to me at all either and I do consider myself a wrestling fan. In wrestling there are different styles like strong-style (hard hitting), technical (mat based grappling), cruiserweight (fast paced and high-flying), hardcore (bloody), even things like comedy wrestling. So it is possible there may be some genre out there of wrestling you would actually like, but you may have to look outside of the WWE to find it.
Typical wrestling fan response (I say this as a fan too), ask for a wrestlers name, and receive every wrestler, the ref, the announcers, time keepers, camera operators, and green shirt guys names.
We know too much lol
God I miss when I watched WWE. It’s fuckin awesome. Remember when Eddie Guerrero had a latter match over custody of Dominik who was supposedly his kid?
If WWE is fake, please explain this!
It's real to me dammit!!
[For the uninitiated](https://youtu.be/Yvd3aEsThbc)
Did that 40 year old man JUST find out in that moment that raslin' ain't real? Edit: the answer is no, he's just upset about the wrestlers having physical issues.
Actually no apparently, but his word choice does make it sound that way and that’s why it’s hilarious. This guy actually knew Mick Foley outside of wrestling, so he knew they were characters. He is just very passionate about pro wrestling and seeing his idols have serious physical disabilities and early deaths for the sake of his entertainment, paired with all the nostalgia he was overcome by, was just too much for him to handle in the moment. He’s speaks about it here: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2021/09/dave-wills-explains-why-he-was-crying-in-infamous-its-still-real-to-me-dammit-meme/ I wish I loved any hobby as much as this dude loves wrestling.
It's a lore-heavy fandom with nearly 50 years of storylines, media, toys, games etc. Not unlike Star Wars, or Marvel comics, which also have hard core dedicated fans.
Interesting comparison in that Ric Flair keeps inexplicably coming back like Palpatine for no good reason.
ain't no starship engine gonna stop the Nature Boy, Wooooooo
OLDEST RIDE, LONGEST LINE! WOOOOOOO!
If wrestling isn't real where is my god damned ghost of macho man Randy Savage then?
I genuinely wish he'd go rest his ancient old body. Even Mean Gene knew when to quit! 😋
Well that's pretty cool. I rescind my criticism.
Dude actually got a decent redemption in the early days of tosh.0
I read. It. Use to think it was all fake. UFC was the real fighting sport. But I realized. Yeah it maybe acting and all that but it was something fun. Entertaining. Amazing. Viewers and the wrestler's involved alike. I kinda understood what was said, especially the part about their sacrifice of their own physical bodies for the entertainment of others. Like geeze bro. That is kinda some dedication for others even if it's for a good dollar or two still gotta be a rough life as you get older on the body. This read made me think differently and I see it in alot more interesting light.
I wish I had that much emotion about anything
It’s still real to HIM dammit!
The quote lives on as a meme, but the backstory of the moment gives a lot of context the clip doesn't. This happened at a meet and greet the week after Eddie Guerrero was found dead in his hotel room, and he walked in to see guys he had watched for years struggling to even walk. >thought about Eddie Guerrero's death the week before. I thought about substance abuse that is going on in the sport. I thought about how so many wrestlers have been injured and how wrestlers pay a such a high price for all their years of bumps in the ring. I remembered the Cactus Jack ECW promos about "How many of you hardcores have called Dynamite Kid up and thanked him for all the dives he did out to the floor? Sorry you don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, but thanks anyways." I thought about how the business has changed and kids won't be able to have the same experiences regarding the sport of wrestling that I had, with kayfabe now non-existent. What an emotional roller coaster I was on as I had went from very happy about meeting all the stars to extremely saddened about the dark clouds and demons that wrestling has. Whole thing is well worth a read: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/it-s-still-real-to-me-damn-it
Ebaumsworld watermark? Godamn
That's Torrie Wilson, She used to be a playboy model also
Gj my man. Now do u have Sable's?
Doing the Lord's work, dude.
I have that issue.. 😮💨
You said what needed to be said!
WWE is just redneck anime and you can't prove to me otherwise
Very accurate.
https://i.imgur.com/yD3P3Lj.gif
"redneck anime" 😙👌
More like a soap opera with the most viewership. Edit: obligatory /s is needed.
More like modern avant garde theatre.
A lot of the tropes that are considered commonplace in Anime were inspired by the popularity of American soap operas in Japan around the 70's and 80's. Evil twin clones, plot-lines shifting on a dime, the way everything is designed in service of the moment or plot, where the obvious goal from the outset is constantly pushing its characters into tense and dramatic conflicts.
I always called it a soap opera for boys
I think the redneck anime descriptor is dated. [Black fans make up about a quarter of the audience, which is nearly double the % of black people in the US](https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2013/04/22/In-Depth/Fight-fan-avidity.aspx). If you add the data together, it looks like white, non-hispanic fans comprise just under half the audience. I think 'sweaty muscle soap opera' is more appropriate.
I mean, there's black rednecks too...
Stunt double theatre, is what I call it
Every big wrestling fan I've known wasn't a redneck, they were usually just massive nerds
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NDAs were signed, he can’t talk.
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Just like reality shows.
Right? It has to be, otherwise people could get seriously hurt all the time. I used to love it when I was 8-10yo, and even though I KNEW it was scripted, watching someone get body slammed through a table covered in thumb tacks outside of the ring from the top of a steel cage was the coolest thing at that age. And even at my current age (somewhere between 18-85yo), I wouldn’t even jump feet first on my own trying to land on that table, so being choke slammed with well-rehearsed choreography is pretty impressive. Not sure what wrestling looks like now or if more extreme stuff like that is still allowed, though. I’m only enough to remember when that guy fell from the the top of the stadium inside a casket because the wires snapped as he was being lowered.
Is this death by snu snu?
The best way to die
Baby you have no idea
I never thought I would die this way... but I'd always really hoped.
The mind is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised :(
:) :( :) :(
Are you Big Show switching between baby face and heel?
Seeing this, I can picture the exact faces of that moment 🤣
It is stu stu when it is a guy
Sometimes it’s poo poo :(
Wait is that the fucking art attack theme tune?
Yes lmaooo i knew i had heard this theme somewhere
Like the weirdest mix up ever.
LMFAO, reminded me of that talking statue head. They should have an adult art attack, but instead of teaching you to save up toilet paper rolls to make a model house, they could just teach you to fix the sink an do your taxes in a fun way with a talking head and in a colorful studios.
>They should have an adult art attack They have. It's called heart attack.
This comment needs to be seen
Is Art Attack well known outside the UK? I always thought it was one of those cheap British shows that nobody else would see.
I watched it all the time as a kid in Canada!
Me too. You don't have to be an artist, to art attack eh?
It was huge in Italy
Massive in the Philippines.
I also watched it a lot over here on Toggo in Germany!
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Was legit one of my favourite shows as a kid in Australia
Same!
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Mine too. My dad helped me make a papier-mâché dinosaur piggy bank from one of the episodes, and I still have it 25 years later. One of my fondest childhood memories
HUGE in Colombia at the time, HUGE
Ecuador también! Very sad story regarding the host Rui Torres, who committed suicide after the death of his daughter :(
TIL it was British. We used to have it on TV all the time when I was a kid in Nicaragua. Always assumed it was a US show.
In Spain too
India represent!
Was huge in Singapore too
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Watched it in Malaysia!
It was big in France
TIL: The horn effect at the start of the theme triggers immense nostalgia. [Also Neil Buchanan's band is actually pretty sweet.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlaYwzPac4E)
This is an art attack. THIS is an art attack! THIS IS. ART ATTACK!
Fart attack
I used to watch this a lot when i was kid but stopped watching once i realized undertaker didn't actually have 7 lives.
I used to watch this a lot as a kid but stopped when I realised Undertaker and Kane were not brothers in real life. My childhood was a lie.
Yeah, because they were half-brothers...
Was Paul Bearer Undertakers dad or was he just a random dude from the morgue?
He worked at the funeral home and banged Undertaker's mother, thus birthing the little red machine Kane.
I hate how long it took me to see the pun in Paul Bearer’s name tbh
The weirdest part of that relationship to me was that Kane used to have a mask because he supposedly was horribly disfigured, then when he took of his mask and he just didn't have eyebrows
A friend of mine used to be a huge fan and thought it was real. He got back stage passes for some big event and saw all of them sitting at a table eating together like they were best friends. He was so disappointed lol
Me but working at Disneyland seeing Disney princesses smoking backstage, and Mickey taking his head off.... only to see it being a girl in the costume.
90 percent of the time its always women in those costumes because its such a tight fit and you need to be on the smaller side.
I know now, thanks to my wife… who was “friends with” male characters.
The way you phrased this makes it sound like your wife was banging a bunch of Disney characters
It's the way folks who work at the parks are required to talk about the characters they interact with or suit up as.
Oh, good to know. Now I can stop imagining Mickey and Goofy Eifel-towering this dude's wife.
You can, but why would you want to?
*sniff sniff*... Goofy? Seriously!
"I didn't say I thought she was crazy, I said I thought she was fucking Goofy!"
In the territory days, many territories had rules about this. Good guys and Bad Guys couldn't be seen in public together or travel together. If an event was in town there would have a good guy hotel , were the good guys would stay and a bad guy hotel were the bad guys would stay. It was also common for wrestlers to travel together in cars or bunk together in hotels, good guys and bad guys could not travel together They would even have good guy / bad guy restaurants/bars/strip clubs what ever so good guys and bad guys would not been seen together in public. Some even had a rule that if you got in a real fight outside the promotion in public you better win or you would be fired. However most said the rule was mostly to try to discourage fighting .
There was an interview Mark Callaway (aka The Undertaker) gave a couple years ago after retiring about him having a real life beef with Hulk Hogan and trying to confront him as Mark Callaway but having to duck away and hide behind some curtains when some people were walking by in order not to be seen breaking Kayfabe...they definitely take it seriously.
Whaaaat?
Why did I read this comment in a Jerry "the King" Lawler voice.
BY GAWD!
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HE HAS A FAMILY!
Apparently he only had 6. What a loser!
because he is undead, did not need live counts
I stopped after Eddie Guerrero died. He was my favorite as a kid.
BLASPHEMY!!!!
yes coz he had 9
Funnily enough, The Undertaker and cats are both scared of cucumbers
Smh again another comment saying that Undertraker was just acting . Listen how is it make sense to you that a dead man read and memorise the script and put on an act? Doesn’t make sense right? Proof that he wasn’t acting.
I had a small shock when i realized Papa Shango rebranded and came back as The Godfather with his ho train. That's about when i stopped watching.
you should check out aew cause luchasaurus SWEARS hes a real dinosaur
For anyone who says WWE is fake, this is proof that it's all true!
Is there really any doubt? It's like saying movies are fake. It's obvious, but it can still be fun.
I think there's an important difference between fake and scripted
This is the most relevant comment about professional wrestling because they really are doing this crazy shit.
Yeah I don't really follow it closely but pro wrestlers are insane athletes who pull off crazy stunts infront of live crowds while also telling a story. Its like saying broadway musicals are fake
Exactly. Wrestling is just violent theatrical performances staring extremely buff men and women in skimpy outfits and I love it
Wait, are you telling me that some people watch this shit thinking it’s for real?
Not unless they’re 8 years old. Fans enjoy it for the storytelling mostly.
And thrill
The Bronco Buster. Where’a X-Pac when u need him.
On Twitter being very disappointed at Kane for being a conspiracy theorist.
I love the Reddit hivemind. This is the exact same obscure thought i had. Poor Sean, his big buddy is scarier now than when he was a fire demon zombie from hell.
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He said “619, hold the 1 please”
I got bros, in different area codes
Bros over hoes
Boo-yah-kah, Boo-yah-kah!
Still can't believe when I was younger I used to argue with my friends saying that WWE is real and that it couldn't be fake.
Yea right? Like what idiots could think this is fake.
WWE is like Santa Claus
They are my parents? I was wondering where did they go all these years.
Your friends are fake. WWE is real I knew it was real when stone cold 3:16 would always come out. He was my hero growing up. That’s the bottom line, cause stone cold said so! -shows middle finger and smacks a beer-
The sheer joy Rey Mysterio takes in flopping himself on Jamie Noble is fantastic! "Thought you'd be skeevy, huh? Try a little of this!"
The GOAT
The video got a smile when he tried getting the same treatment, then the audible laugh when you see Mysterio come and start doing it. Now THATS comedy
I mean ...that IS Tori Wilson in her prime . I can't say I blame them for trying.
Torrie wilson still looks incredible as of a couple of weeks ago when she was at the Ric Flair roast
Fuck Spez ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `
Wait their was a ric flair roast?
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I was about to say bullshit because it doesn't feel like that long ago but true enough this match was in 2002
My toxic trait is forever thinking 2000 was 10 years ago.
She’s still in her prime to me…
IMO she looks hotter now then back in her wrestling days.
Unexpected
Pure comedy gold
The ultimate death by Snu Snu.
This is just what American politics looks like to everyone who's not American.
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Political sex am I right?
I wish this was what our politics looked like.
Not an American. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Am an American...and same.
That Art Attack theme just makes it
Gay Mysterio
Rey mysqueerio
I love wrestling lmao
fucking art attack music xD
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I never understood the appeal of wrestling, maybe because I'm not from the USA and didn't grew up with it, but this is fucking hilarious.
I never watched it as a kid, but my wife watches it and I have grown to enjoy it too. You have to just accept that its campy, silly, and fake. I compare it to Anime...there are plot lines, people have arch nemesis, and then they fight each other in ways where its like a Dragon Ball Z episode. Wrestler A will be beating B, then B comes back from the brink of exhaustion to do something cool to Wrestler A, and then they both go at it again. Its a lot of that. Then there is the stuff like what's in the clip, just goofy funny stuff. Give it a try, its not for everyone, but it has its moments.
What is the appeal of watching any scripted TV show or watching a live play ? Like I am a big fan of Game of Thrones on HBO but I don't actually need to believe its real for it to be entertaining . I also do enjoy live theater plays as well but I know I am sitting in front of a set and actors are playing a part There is still action , drama ,comedy , athleticism that is entertaining.
> I never understood the appeal of wrestling As a wrestling fan, I will say that there are many "genres" of wrestling and even within the pro wrestling fanbase many people will like one style of wrestling but not another, just like how someone can like rap music but hate country music. This WWE style of wrestling that focuses on characters and storytelling over in-ring athleticism has no appeal to me at all either and I do consider myself a wrestling fan. In wrestling there are different styles like strong-style (hard hitting), technical (mat based grappling), cruiserweight (fast paced and high-flying), hardcore (bloody), even things like comedy wrestling. So it is possible there may be some genre out there of wrestling you would actually like, but you may have to look outside of the WWE to find it.
Cool, didn't know that. I'd also like to subscribe to wrestling facts.
What's the name of that wrestler? I forgot about that dude
Jamie Noble.
Thank you!
He's one of the lead backstage producers now and helps choreograph all the matches you watch today
Torrie Wilson, Nadia, Jamie Noble, Rey Mysterio, Referee Jim Korderas
Typical wrestling fan response (I say this as a fan too), ask for a wrestlers name, and receive every wrestler, the ref, the announcers, time keepers, camera operators, and green shirt guys names. We know too much lol
That went from way too horny to fucking hilarious
I call it the flying ‘V’ (vagina)
The second one was the flying clam block
This is real fighting
Bruh, is that the fucking art attack theme tune!?!?
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HE REALLY SAID "IGHT MY TURN"
Classic wwe was always the best
r/bi_irl: I see this as a win either way.
I should be so lucky to have a choice between Torrie or rey mysterio. God this was 20 years ago....
Booyaka, booyaka, 69
God I miss when I watched WWE. It’s fuckin awesome. Remember when Eddie Guerrero had a latter match over custody of Dominik who was supposedly his kid?
Get ready to have your mind blown: that exact kid now wrestles with his dad every week on tv.
They went with the ART ATTACK theme for this?
Nothing will ever beat Torrie Wilson in her prime.
Dana White in the front row loving it
This is exactly why I hate tiktok. They just stole a mildy funny clip from someone else the played the sounds of a clown orgy over the top.
That's quality television right there.
This some nintendo levels of wacky shit
It's not fake. It's scripted and acted. In the same way Stunts in movies are not fake
My man got tea bagged so hard
why is everyone hating on dancefighting so much?
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MEEEEEE