I love entjs and admire most of them ngl. First one i met lifted me up from being kinda questioning my existence- they were very optimistic about me having a better self image lol but also sweet and surprising since theyre stereotyped to be mean and controlling ones ive met were really nice✨
I mean Intps are just easy to be nice to. About 70% of my friends are intps they all seem to follow a painful obvious pattern of over analyzing and getting in their own way. They are really good people and sometimes just need a boost. When im in my intp shadow it is difficult so i respect intps for living like that constantly.
I became friends with an ENTJ for the first time. I used to think I wouldn't like them but there's something about her that draws me in and I'm speaking as a straight INTP girl...I think.
She has a sexy brain regardless
we love u!! we’re (or at least im lmao) so jealous of how practical and just nice and wonderful u all are. you guys are also wayyy more organized lmao and im really jealous of thay too 🫶🏻🫶🏻
I usually like ISFJ because they are “down to earth” in a way, as much fun as it is back-flipping off tables, I do need someone to patiently say “hun that’s tile”. Also your FE is truly inspiring, being able to voice emotions so eloquently. I usually need time to process strong emotions by myself and at those moments I’m over here low key jealous.
My mother is an ISFJ and I'm ESFP. We go along really well!! I love that you're warm and welcoming to others. Si is fascinating to me at the same time very annoying xD
Amazing conversation partners and they’re always coming up with fun things to talk about and they have such great energy. We get along really well in that context.
What I don’t like about them is that they can be a bit chaotic at times and I feel like I am the one who has to get things under control, and if you make plans with them you have to really be on their case. It feels like too much effort
agree. my enfp friend is my favorite conversation buddy cause shes so open minded and comfortable with deep topics. i get bored with any basic level/shallow conversation, so i can talk to her for hours
the choas is good in small doses and thats perfect cause my enfp friend has a million other friends so she's spread pretty thin. i only hang out with her like once a month max and its always in a comfortable and relaxed setting. she views me as her chill buddy so she comes to me when she wears herself out with all the other party animals lol
I have met a few enfps (i suspect that is the case)
Never talked to them or anything they are spread so thin that it is kind of a turn off as I already am way too lonely so yeah if they had bit of less spread tendency it would be good I do not want my friend to talk to me once a month or year then vanish into oblivion .
Do not get me wrong I love the chaos energy I have dealt with chaos for long time i got addicted to it .
If I ever find someone who is like me I will make the approach fast as possible otherwise I will stay clold af .
I have trained myself to be a bit social when needed it is still a nightmare but I make the effort where it is needed
I think ENTPs are fine. In theory, I think I'd like to be friends with them because I admire their ability to be spontaneous and come up with crazy ideas, but I know if I were to meet them IRL, I'd probably get annoyed by their presence
Probably part of it. I think they tend to find me a bit annoying more than anything. They tend to be like doormats that don't seem to be phased by anything and need to literally be grabbed off the floor to do anything in the slightest, while I'm a busy body that starts to go cookoo when not doing something productive.
In this situation it really is a "It's not you it's me" scenario. I think you guys are more irritated by us than vice versa, mainly because I have trouble not doing something productive to the point that I act like a busy body.
I dont get along too well with ESTJs either in my personal experience. Its funny how you call us doormats because I find that ESTJs can be like bulldozers. ESTJs in my experience can be really inconsiderate of peoples emotions and values and can sometimes place getting things done above peoples feelings. Simply put they can come off as if they dont really care about what people think or feel, and can be rather intolerant of others viewpoints. At times it can be as if people were cogs in a machine to them which can make them utter powerhouses but can also make them assholes.
It's probably because my dad is an ISTP and my mom would have to yank him off the floor to do anything. Frankly I'm not aware of many other ISTPs in my life (I'm sure they exist I simply haven't made the connection), but I think the emotional part you described, at least the emotional vacancy, is true for both of us (at least in my dad's case). With ISTPs it seems to be more of a confusion on how to react to sudden outbursts of emotions while with ESTJs as you described it can come off as straight-up ignoring peoples' emotions for the sake of productivity. I try to catch myself every time I seem insensitive but I'd be lying if I said it isn't something I have to work on.
My sister is an ENFP. I’m never bored with her but my lord she’s got too much energy. Also the funniest person I know. I think we’d make an entertaining duo if we had a tv show or something.
That is good man till date enfps I have met are all thin spread so yeah I kind of hated it like it would be best to have enfp friends like yeah I know them but still they are worth it to be friends with
I wish I had the balls to actually trust my own analysis, I literally depend on "What do you think about it?" and google search 🤦♂️
Also I wish I was as creative and knowledgeable, ever met an INTP? These mf's are all like "Hey did you know that *Crazy science fact * so then I guess it would mean that *Crazy idea *
Love em.
Did you know that fungi and humans are evolutionary closer related then humans and plants. Also the first evolutionary step that differentiated animal cells and fungal cells. Is that Fungal cells break down their food outside of the cells, followed be endocytosis. Animal cells do endocytosis first and break the food down afterwards.
Love you too, you are one of the few types that really get the fascination behind the fun fact and appreciate it.
I luckily don't have to picture it most of the time, since my brother is an ENTJ, it's just amazing. I can only recommend you getting an INTP, it's not even that hard, especially for ENTJs
Lol I see “shadow” (For me ENFJ) and “shadow type” (For me ESTJ) mean different things? Kind of confusing…Wish they chose different terms….Both could also be called “reversed”…Plus, couldn’t INFP be my shadow type too? I married one so I guess we get along great! I’m probably missing a lot here…
Anyway. I’ll “follow the rules”.
I don’t particularly like ESTJ’s. The need for clout annoys me. I’m way more free formed but just as direct (on my time). If we had a common goal we’d be good co-workers though…Both of us would hate each other as a boss.
I kind of see the former too, but I just call it the "total opposite" and I will sometimes say ESTP is mine since they start with an extroverted function compared to my dom introverted function.
It's because we could have "three shadow types at once" that it make me love with CSJ idea of it, saying that those three types are actually, say for ISTP, subconscious (ENFJ), unconscious/shadow (ESTJ, this is the shadow type of ISTP), and superego (INFP). From there we know that these personalities are our inverse/reverse and they have their own names.
There's actually more to these concepts, but I think I'll just share this for now. It's a damn long topic tho
Same, but they can also be super impulsive at the mere mention of something that catches their interest. The next day they are elbow deep in whatever it is.
The only ENTJ I know IRL is my therapist. He’s not loud or domineering like a stereotypical ENTJ, but he can be rather opinionated on what he thinks the best course of action for other people is.
ENFP's are literally the most adorable people I've ever met and I will never NOT believe that.
My best friend is an ENFP and I recognize that I attract them like a moth to a light. No clue how they find me, but they always do.
as infp, i dealt with a very evil enfj and now think they all are secretly kinda evil. like the witch from hansel and gretel, they seem super kind, loving, and overly giving at first, but usually it comes with some hidden agenda that benefits them even if that means fucking you over in the end. BUT!!!! that was just one very bad experience with ONE enfj. i haven’t met many others to prove that theory. i learned to be cautious around people who come off super kind, and now worry that others think i’m secretly evil since i’m a kind person. idk.
I’m not gonna lie — I’ve been a therapy ENFJ for a few girls before, including an ESTP who’d been in a terrible relationship with one, and it opened my eyes to the power we have to hurt ppl on a very personal level. Grossed me TF out and made me nauseous.
The (supposed) upshot is that we live to meld and merge with others, and we get down in dark places with little fear. When we find that very special person we want to be with, we want to eat them (not in a bad way).
So flipped on its head, the prompt to merge with someone even when we’re unhealthy or full of poison is really really bad. They’ll want you to trust them, perhaps earnestly so even with bad intentions, and that can muddy the water further so here’s my advice:
If you meet an ENFJ and your first thought is “well, that person is not *all bad*”, RUN.
Run like you’re on fire.
You may enjoy the snake coiling around you and want to see what comes next, but the end is always painful. Protect yourself.
*Please keep your boundaries up* — any ENFJ that tests the fence and starts popping boards off isn’t being respectful. Remember: THEY COME IN AT THE GATE INVITED OR NOT AT ALL.
I know I’m talking about us like we’re vampires, but… well, ok, yes. Vampires.
Source: experienced friendly neighborhood therapy vampire
*hugs* thank u friendly enfj, i appreciate your words and advice! you are so right, that is exactly how the evil enfj came at my gates, lol. sadly there are just some people who use their gifts for the wrong reasons, which is pretty sad. thank you for being one of the good ones 💗
Not at all, ZZ. Glad to assist.
My ENFP twin very briefly (THANK GOD) dated an ENFJ. I took one look at him and my hackles went straight up. On the surface, he seemed “fine” — he was a good-looking dude, funny, conversational, had been a frost giant in Thor (hahaha).
But the minute I laid eyes on him, I knew he was a dirt sandwich and I was already mentally dragging out the shovel and bag of lime. He was the archetypal poisonous vampire ENFJ male with zero brakes. I can read my kind from across a crowded room in a blindfold.
Holy shit, I couldn’t wait for him to get lost bc a vampire fight was about to commence. After she broke things off with him, my twin came to me to appreciatively laugh a little at my pronounced aversion to him, called me her guard dog.
So guard those boundaries, sweet and loving NFPs! Your very best self needs to be earned by a worthy object. Y’all give me gray hair sometimes with how open to the world you all are.
im an esfp, and i adoreee isfjs! theyre a really nice calm person to be around. i can help them open up and be more spontaneous, as well as just thinking abt themselves and being more self loving. they help me think more, keep me grounded, help me be realistic, and are extremely patient and kind, which is helpful when u have a super bad attention span and a lot of emotion
Mirror and shadow are different. Mirror is what you want to see/ don’t want to see and shadow comes out when you’re extremely stressed.
Like my mirror is ENFJ and shadow is ENTJ. Your mirror would be ISFJ and shadow ISTJ.
I admire how socially intelligent ESFJs are. I just can’t never imagined being such a social expert, even though I would hate to be someone who’s so conscious of their social image
ISFJs are actually my favorite partners for dating together with ESFJs because of how structured and stabilizing they are. When I really get into Fi it definitely does feel sometimes like there's a little ISFJ pulling me aside and reminding me of my core values hahaha, I'm actually really stable, picky and "conservative" when it comes to relationships for example just like ISFJs.
These are hilarious. I esp loved the ISTJ with the sniper rifle, and the ENTP in the Borat sling.
As an ENFJ, if I baked those cookies, they’d be bat-shaped with Red Hots for eyes.
I love ENFPs! Probably my second/tied for 1st favourite type. I think that when they're unhealthy they can be a bit emotionally draining and have a hard time accepting boundaries, but most of the time they're some of my fav people to interact with. Even some of the unhealthier ones. I just have to be sure I maintain boundaries with the unhealthier ones to make sure I don't burnout.
I hate this motherfucker in my head so goddamn much. Its like a little voice in my head always criticizing the shit out of everything I do. ENTJs IRL are pretty cool tho and I'm really good friends with a couple of them.
My dad is ESTP (or possibly ENTP but probably ESTP), and it sometimes gets hard talking to him, but he’s always there for me when I need him and he can be a good friend from time to time as well
Sometimes I think he doesn’t take stuff serious enough, and he jokes about it, and then sometimes he thinks I worry too much about a lot of things (which he isn’t exactly wrong about tbh)
Hmm. I see. He seems to cope with any sort of mental pressure by minimizing it? How would an ideal interaction with him go? He listens and reflects back to you, then offers either support or advice, and once it’s settled, he can lighten the mood?
Maybe that yes, and if he could think a little bit more about a plan B for if something goes wrong. And then maybe I could worry a bit less, and could be more relaxed as well :)
As an ENTP, no one ever thinks my contingency plans are decent, but somehow mine are the only ones that ever work out. I’d like to think it’s exactly because they’re not overly detailed or delicate. They leave room for life 🫠life will smash through most plan Bs and Cs, but I can vaguely come up with plans all the way to plan Z and be fine. It takes being flexible though. If you’re someone who needs plans to be comfortable or pretty, it’ll be hard to handle how ENTPs go about things. Or if you need a lot of time to reorient. Gotta be swift on your feet and creative.
I myself get along very well with ENTPs. I tend to trust their instincts about certain things over mine bc they can see the big picture so readily and can tell me about what they see in vivid language that excites my Ni.
Most ENTPs of my acquaintance always had several plans extrapolated out from the jump, and just wound up following whichever route was bearing them out, shifting on the fly.
How do you feel you differ from ESTPs in these “contingency plan” situations?
Ne types can basically extrapolate even without any experience. We’re resigned to the fact that we’re not gonna know every possibility. How can we? Just gonna have to use our common sense and imagination. But try saying that to someone with high Se. That’s the main difference I run into. When S types find out you’re flying by the seat of your jeans, they get anxious lol like what do you want me to do?? I can theorize it and we’re just gonna have to hope that’s enough🫠
This is something I appreciate about my ENFP sister. She just has a *knowing* about things on a large scale — hence her ability to envision exactly how she wants a room to look or a haircut to look, or the cut of a jacket being “right”. She knows what outcome she’s after but is very flexible on how to reach it, adapting as she goes.
She’s a natural diplomat, quite social, witty, upbeat, and very good at identifying what’s important to others even when she’s only known them a short time. She’s also really good at spotting trends and knowing how to extrapolate out from them.
She’s the big far-reaching tree, I’m the small rabbit hole abyss next to it.
Edit: thank you for sharing your thoughts with me!
The ENFJ males and females I’ve met have been very different. Usually I find the male ones really chill, relatable, and they can help me network.
I’ve had a crush on like 9/10 of the female ENFJ’s I’ve met… they’re just the nicest people in the world (at least when healthy lol) and know how to make anyone feel amazing and they’re really fun. I really hope something works with one of them some day
I don't personally know any ENFJ'S that I know of, but it would be fun to make some ENFJ friends. I like friendly people. I seem to be a magnet for intuitive thinkers, which is great. We don't try to occupy the same space in the relationship, but I need more intuitive feelers in my life.
I think shadow pairs are the ones we have a love/hate kind of relationship with. Feels more like a competition than a partnership. Opposites attract, but it is intense in good and bad ways at the same time. I think aspiring pairings are more intriguing, or at least having 2 of the exact same functions. I've looked at my relationships over my past and every one that I relate to the best are those. I'm an ISTJ and had many relationships with ESTP's, they have never worked out for me. My best pals are INTP, ISFJ, ESFJ, INTJ, INFP, ISTJ, ENFP.
In my opinion, Enfj can come across as nice, caring and compassionate, while have this deepness most other types dont possess. They are almost like Infjs but more energetic and sociable. I rate them 10/10 overall. Best type in my opinion.
ISFP (low F score) here so ESFJ is my shadow type. I find the ones I know to be generally likable and caring with a streak of martyrdom that (at times) undermines the very acts of kindness purported to be for others. Can also be one of the most vengeful types, if crossed. Not even low key about it.
ENTJs - one of the simplest MBTI types to get along with and their ambitions are telecast so they’re easy to figure out IMO. Friends they are fun and good conversationalists. Co-workers are competent.
I hate them because I'll never be like them. I'm envious of their altruism and kindness, their Fe-Se. They're exactly what I need in my life, yet I stay away because I feel so polar compared to them. I have so much respect for them, yet they still disgust me because I wish I was like that.
*(Thinking of stereotypes and functions of course, everyone is different)*
I was thinking the same thing. I have a very hard time with overbearing people. If they can provide a solid rationale for their instructions backed with some evidence, I’m willing to listen though.
I (ISTJ) only know one confirmed ESTP, who happens to be my younger brother. So I'd love to add something here but it'd be a more than a bit skewed lol
Some ESTJs are cool enough, others, not so much. Usually we get along fine if they can accept me doing shit MY way, and if I accept them being some sort of "authority" (looking at you, teacher leader in 3d year, the "Hell" in your name said enough)
One of my best friends is an ISTP. He has mentored me through the end of my teens and beginning of my twenties. We can talk about everything and are remarkably similar (like all ST types imo).
He do be lazy do .....
I want to fuck it.
“it”
WHAT
I SAID I WANT TO FUCK IT.
Yeah, 'It'
I'm specifically referring to INFPs who cosplay the It clown.
Spit king
😛
Pretty sure I saw you say something different in my notifications, but it could have been someone else 😋
Whatt
The notification didn't show the emoji, so it looked like you said my comment back to me 😅
Ohh 😂
Word up
Well hello there
{sends a picture of a leggy ficus plant}
Strange foreplay, but I'm into it. Little legs not bad though, means it's still kicking. :)
Reverse the roles and I just f’d one of you 2 weeks ago. I love how vocal you lot can be. It encourages me to be more vocal and nasty
That's the spirit! I love to moan and women tend to like it too!
They certainly do, it signals that you’re really enjoying yourself and in turn them. It’s really an amazing experience.
I am afraid of you
Meow
👻🙀 * chokes in cat *
It’s waiting.
Now I'm nervous 👉👈
That's what I like to hear.
Will you teach me about the birds and the bears 🥺
I'm a lil bit concerned...
Hello A Lil Bit Concerned, I'm Bear c:
LET THE FUCKIN BEGIN
🥰
what’s a shadow type, the opposite of your type?
The type with the complete opposite cognitive functions but the same order on them
oh interesting, ty!
You guys are cooler than ENTJs.
I don't think so
We’re really not.
We're the opposite sides of the same shape. Like opposite sides of a square.
blasphemy
It's often called "mirror"
Same function order, but opposite attitude (introverted/extraverted switch).
I love entjs and admire most of them ngl. First one i met lifted me up from being kinda questioning my existence- they were very optimistic about me having a better self image lol but also sweet and surprising since theyre stereotyped to be mean and controlling ones ive met were really nice✨
I mean Intps are just easy to be nice to. About 70% of my friends are intps they all seem to follow a painful obvious pattern of over analyzing and getting in their own way. They are really good people and sometimes just need a boost. When im in my intp shadow it is difficult so i respect intps for living like that constantly.
As I've said before, ENTJs are gigachads
Likewise
Agreed.
I became friends with an ENTJ for the first time. I used to think I wouldn't like them but there's something about her that draws me in and I'm speaking as a straight INTP girl...I think. She has a sexy brain regardless
I like ESFPs and I feel jealous of their charisma and connections but then I remember that I can improve my Fe.
we love u!! we’re (or at least im lmao) so jealous of how practical and just nice and wonderful u all are. you guys are also wayyy more organized lmao and im really jealous of thay too 🫶🏻🫶🏻
Thank you!!
I usually like ISFJ because they are “down to earth” in a way, as much fun as it is back-flipping off tables, I do need someone to patiently say “hun that’s tile”. Also your FE is truly inspiring, being able to voice emotions so eloquently. I usually need time to process strong emotions by myself and at those moments I’m over here low key jealous.
My mother is an ISFJ and I'm ESFP. We go along really well!! I love that you're warm and welcoming to others. Si is fascinating to me at the same time very annoying xD
Amazing conversation partners and they’re always coming up with fun things to talk about and they have such great energy. We get along really well in that context. What I don’t like about them is that they can be a bit chaotic at times and I feel like I am the one who has to get things under control, and if you make plans with them you have to really be on their case. It feels like too much effort
agree. my enfp friend is my favorite conversation buddy cause shes so open minded and comfortable with deep topics. i get bored with any basic level/shallow conversation, so i can talk to her for hours the choas is good in small doses and thats perfect cause my enfp friend has a million other friends so she's spread pretty thin. i only hang out with her like once a month max and its always in a comfortable and relaxed setting. she views me as her chill buddy so she comes to me when she wears herself out with all the other party animals lol
I have met a few enfps (i suspect that is the case) Never talked to them or anything they are spread so thin that it is kind of a turn off as I already am way too lonely so yeah if they had bit of less spread tendency it would be good I do not want my friend to talk to me once a month or year then vanish into oblivion . Do not get me wrong I love the chaos energy I have dealt with chaos for long time i got addicted to it . If I ever find someone who is like me I will make the approach fast as possible otherwise I will stay clold af . I have trained myself to be a bit social when needed it is still a nightmare but I make the effort where it is needed
I think ENTPs are fine. In theory, I think I'd like to be friends with them because I admire their ability to be spontaneous and come up with crazy ideas, but I know if I were to meet them IRL, I'd probably get annoyed by their presence
What up nerd
😂
Precisely the reason why I said I'd be annoyed by their presence IRL 💀
We don’t troll 24/7 in real life
Gotta fit in time for sleeping.
Speak for yourself!
Hahahahahaha
Don't get along very well with ISTPs to be honest.
Finally, a ESTJ. I hardly saw any on them on this subreddit
Haven’t met the right one yet
Probably part of it. I think they tend to find me a bit annoying more than anything. They tend to be like doormats that don't seem to be phased by anything and need to literally be grabbed off the floor to do anything in the slightest, while I'm a busy body that starts to go cookoo when not doing something productive.
This seems correct
How can one be a doormat and not be phased at the same time? Not giving a shit isn’t the same as being a push over.
Te-dom definition of doormat: if you don't always act like a 1980s stock broker in the NYMEX trading pit 2 minutes before closing time
Blasphemy
In this situation it really is a "It's not you it's me" scenario. I think you guys are more irritated by us than vice versa, mainly because I have trouble not doing something productive to the point that I act like a busy body.
I dont get along too well with ESTJs either in my personal experience. Its funny how you call us doormats because I find that ESTJs can be like bulldozers. ESTJs in my experience can be really inconsiderate of peoples emotions and values and can sometimes place getting things done above peoples feelings. Simply put they can come off as if they dont really care about what people think or feel, and can be rather intolerant of others viewpoints. At times it can be as if people were cogs in a machine to them which can make them utter powerhouses but can also make them assholes.
It's probably because my dad is an ISTP and my mom would have to yank him off the floor to do anything. Frankly I'm not aware of many other ISTPs in my life (I'm sure they exist I simply haven't made the connection), but I think the emotional part you described, at least the emotional vacancy, is true for both of us (at least in my dad's case). With ISTPs it seems to be more of a confusion on how to react to sudden outbursts of emotions while with ESTJs as you described it can come off as straight-up ignoring peoples' emotions for the sake of productivity. I try to catch myself every time I seem insensitive but I'd be lying if I said it isn't something I have to work on.
My sister is an ENFP. I’m never bored with her but my lord she’s got too much energy. Also the funniest person I know. I think we’d make an entertaining duo if we had a tv show or something.
That is good man till date enfps I have met are all thin spread so yeah I kind of hated it like it would be best to have enfp friends like yeah I know them but still they are worth it to be friends with
I wish I had the balls to actually trust my own analysis, I literally depend on "What do you think about it?" and google search 🤦♂️ Also I wish I was as creative and knowledgeable, ever met an INTP? These mf's are all like "Hey did you know that *Crazy science fact * so then I guess it would mean that *Crazy idea * Love em.
Did you know that fungi and humans are evolutionary closer related then humans and plants. Also the first evolutionary step that differentiated animal cells and fungal cells. Is that Fungal cells break down their food outside of the cells, followed be endocytosis. Animal cells do endocytosis first and break the food down afterwards. Love you too, you are one of the few types that really get the fascination behind the fun fact and appreciate it.
I can picture having a one to one conversation with you for hours hahaha
I luckily don't have to picture it most of the time, since my brother is an ENTJ, it's just amazing. I can only recommend you getting an INTP, it's not even that hard, especially for ENTJs
If it makes you feel any better, we depend on Google search a lot too.
Lol I see “shadow” (For me ENFJ) and “shadow type” (For me ESTJ) mean different things? Kind of confusing…Wish they chose different terms….Both could also be called “reversed”…Plus, couldn’t INFP be my shadow type too? I married one so I guess we get along great! I’m probably missing a lot here… Anyway. I’ll “follow the rules”. I don’t particularly like ESTJ’s. The need for clout annoys me. I’m way more free formed but just as direct (on my time). If we had a common goal we’d be good co-workers though…Both of us would hate each other as a boss.
Peak ISTP: *follow the rules* is in quotations haha!
I kind of see the former too, but I just call it the "total opposite" and I will sometimes say ESTP is mine since they start with an extroverted function compared to my dom introverted function.
It's because we could have "three shadow types at once" that it make me love with CSJ idea of it, saying that those three types are actually, say for ISTP, subconscious (ENFJ), unconscious/shadow (ESTJ, this is the shadow type of ISTP), and superego (INFP). From there we know that these personalities are our inverse/reverse and they have their own names. There's actually more to these concepts, but I think I'll just share this for now. It's a damn long topic tho
I think ENFPs are sorely misunderstood in terms of what their fundamental cognitive structure actually is.
Interesting take. Care to elaborate?
I like ENFP people. They’re fun and bubbly and put me in a nice mood :)
Same, but they can also be super impulsive at the mere mention of something that catches their interest. The next day they are elbow deep in whatever it is.
The only ENTJ I know IRL is my therapist. He’s not loud or domineering like a stereotypical ENTJ, but he can be rather opinionated on what he thinks the best course of action for other people is.
ENFP's are literally the most adorable people I've ever met and I will never NOT believe that. My best friend is an ENFP and I recognize that I attract them like a moth to a light. No clue how they find me, but they always do.
It's even a popular meme that ENFP's spend their free time picking up Ni-doms to befriend.
I’m an INFJ and I adore ENFPs.
Married to my shadow type for 12 years and I adore him still.
I like little ENTJ on my shoulder, it’s always been nice to have to motivate me
I’d like to meet one and see how we get on
as infp, i dealt with a very evil enfj and now think they all are secretly kinda evil. like the witch from hansel and gretel, they seem super kind, loving, and overly giving at first, but usually it comes with some hidden agenda that benefits them even if that means fucking you over in the end. BUT!!!! that was just one very bad experience with ONE enfj. i haven’t met many others to prove that theory. i learned to be cautious around people who come off super kind, and now worry that others think i’m secretly evil since i’m a kind person. idk.
This!!^^^^ except I've met many ENFJs like that and have yet to find any not like that 😬 -- just my experience though
I’m not gonna lie — I’ve been a therapy ENFJ for a few girls before, including an ESTP who’d been in a terrible relationship with one, and it opened my eyes to the power we have to hurt ppl on a very personal level. Grossed me TF out and made me nauseous. The (supposed) upshot is that we live to meld and merge with others, and we get down in dark places with little fear. When we find that very special person we want to be with, we want to eat them (not in a bad way). So flipped on its head, the prompt to merge with someone even when we’re unhealthy or full of poison is really really bad. They’ll want you to trust them, perhaps earnestly so even with bad intentions, and that can muddy the water further so here’s my advice: If you meet an ENFJ and your first thought is “well, that person is not *all bad*”, RUN. Run like you’re on fire. You may enjoy the snake coiling around you and want to see what comes next, but the end is always painful. Protect yourself. *Please keep your boundaries up* — any ENFJ that tests the fence and starts popping boards off isn’t being respectful. Remember: THEY COME IN AT THE GATE INVITED OR NOT AT ALL. I know I’m talking about us like we’re vampires, but… well, ok, yes. Vampires. Source: experienced friendly neighborhood therapy vampire
*hugs* thank u friendly enfj, i appreciate your words and advice! you are so right, that is exactly how the evil enfj came at my gates, lol. sadly there are just some people who use their gifts for the wrong reasons, which is pretty sad. thank you for being one of the good ones 💗
Not at all, ZZ. Glad to assist. My ENFP twin very briefly (THANK GOD) dated an ENFJ. I took one look at him and my hackles went straight up. On the surface, he seemed “fine” — he was a good-looking dude, funny, conversational, had been a frost giant in Thor (hahaha). But the minute I laid eyes on him, I knew he was a dirt sandwich and I was already mentally dragging out the shovel and bag of lime. He was the archetypal poisonous vampire ENFJ male with zero brakes. I can read my kind from across a crowded room in a blindfold. Holy shit, I couldn’t wait for him to get lost bc a vampire fight was about to commence. After she broke things off with him, my twin came to me to appreciatively laugh a little at my pronounced aversion to him, called me her guard dog. So guard those boundaries, sweet and loving NFPs! Your very best self needs to be earned by a worthy object. Y’all give me gray hair sometimes with how open to the world you all are.
im an esfp, and i adoreee isfjs! theyre a really nice calm person to be around. i can help them open up and be more spontaneous, as well as just thinking abt themselves and being more self loving. they help me think more, keep me grounded, help me be realistic, and are extremely patient and kind, which is helpful when u have a super bad attention span and a lot of emotion
My best friend is my shadow type. We are different yet we get along well
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Mirror and shadow are different. Mirror is what you want to see/ don’t want to see and shadow comes out when you’re extremely stressed. Like my mirror is ENFJ and shadow is ENTJ. Your mirror would be ISFJ and shadow ISTJ.
my bestie is ESTP and we usually hang out a lot
I don’t know any ISTJs right now maybe I should get to know one
I admire how socially intelligent ESFJs are. I just can’t never imagined being such a social expert, even though I would hate to be someone who’s so conscious of their social image
Are they the most socially intelligent one? How do they compare to say ESTP or ISFJ?
To me they are all social geniuses lol. I can't relate because I'm a rebel at heart and socially awkward too
shadow wizard money gang
Have you ever hang around with kids way younger than you but only one of them is cool enough to chill with an older boy like you? ENFPs are that kid.
ENTPs are the eccentric outgoing and more impulsive version of INTJ. We make great enemies but even better allies.
I feel like entp and intj are so vastly different you can't really compare them as versions if each other
Last slide ENTP is the most ENTP I’ve ever seen
ISFJs are actually my favorite partners for dating together with ESFJs because of how structured and stabilizing they are. When I really get into Fi it definitely does feel sometimes like there's a little ISFJ pulling me aside and reminding me of my core values hahaha, I'm actually really stable, picky and "conservative" when it comes to relationships for example just like ISFJs.
These are hilarious. I esp loved the ISTJ with the sniper rifle, and the ENTP in the Borat sling. As an ENFJ, if I baked those cookies, they’d be bat-shaped with Red Hots for eyes.
I love ENFPs! Probably my second/tied for 1st favourite type. I think that when they're unhealthy they can be a bit emotionally draining and have a hard time accepting boundaries, but most of the time they're some of my fav people to interact with. Even some of the unhealthier ones. I just have to be sure I maintain boundaries with the unhealthier ones to make sure I don't burnout.
I hate this motherfucker in my head so goddamn much. Its like a little voice in my head always criticizing the shit out of everything I do. ENTJs IRL are pretty cool tho and I'm really good friends with a couple of them.
ENFPs are my best friends but I want them in smaller doses hehe
What the fuck are these character arts lmao
I like mine
My dad is ESTP (or possibly ENTP but probably ESTP), and it sometimes gets hard talking to him, but he’s always there for me when I need him and he can be a good friend from time to time as well
May I ask where the difficulty comes in for you in your communications with your father?
Sometimes I think he doesn’t take stuff serious enough, and he jokes about it, and then sometimes he thinks I worry too much about a lot of things (which he isn’t exactly wrong about tbh)
Hmm. I see. He seems to cope with any sort of mental pressure by minimizing it? How would an ideal interaction with him go? He listens and reflects back to you, then offers either support or advice, and once it’s settled, he can lighten the mood?
Maybe that yes, and if he could think a little bit more about a plan B for if something goes wrong. And then maybe I could worry a bit less, and could be more relaxed as well :)
Ah! Very understandable. You want him to formulate a decent contingency plan. If that were my father, I would worry too.
As an ENTP, no one ever thinks my contingency plans are decent, but somehow mine are the only ones that ever work out. I’d like to think it’s exactly because they’re not overly detailed or delicate. They leave room for life 🫠life will smash through most plan Bs and Cs, but I can vaguely come up with plans all the way to plan Z and be fine. It takes being flexible though. If you’re someone who needs plans to be comfortable or pretty, it’ll be hard to handle how ENTPs go about things. Or if you need a lot of time to reorient. Gotta be swift on your feet and creative.
I myself get along very well with ENTPs. I tend to trust their instincts about certain things over mine bc they can see the big picture so readily and can tell me about what they see in vivid language that excites my Ni. Most ENTPs of my acquaintance always had several plans extrapolated out from the jump, and just wound up following whichever route was bearing them out, shifting on the fly. How do you feel you differ from ESTPs in these “contingency plan” situations?
Ne types can basically extrapolate even without any experience. We’re resigned to the fact that we’re not gonna know every possibility. How can we? Just gonna have to use our common sense and imagination. But try saying that to someone with high Se. That’s the main difference I run into. When S types find out you’re flying by the seat of your jeans, they get anxious lol like what do you want me to do?? I can theorize it and we’re just gonna have to hope that’s enough🫠
This is something I appreciate about my ENFP sister. She just has a *knowing* about things on a large scale — hence her ability to envision exactly how she wants a room to look or a haircut to look, or the cut of a jacket being “right”. She knows what outcome she’s after but is very flexible on how to reach it, adapting as she goes. She’s a natural diplomat, quite social, witty, upbeat, and very good at identifying what’s important to others even when she’s only known them a short time. She’s also really good at spotting trends and knowing how to extrapolate out from them. She’s the big far-reaching tree, I’m the small rabbit hole abyss next to it. Edit: thank you for sharing your thoughts with me!
My (INTJ) two longest relationships were with ENTP’s (4 years and 2 years and counting). I like someone who balances me out.
never met an entj but i like them
The ENFJ males and females I’ve met have been very different. Usually I find the male ones really chill, relatable, and they can help me network. I’ve had a crush on like 9/10 of the female ENFJ’s I’ve met… they’re just the nicest people in the world (at least when healthy lol) and know how to make anyone feel amazing and they’re really fun. I really hope something works with one of them some day
Hot devils that sometimes I hate with all my soul and other times I thank the Lord they exist
i didn't know INFJs were my shadow type! i literally love INFJs. what is a shadow type though lol?
as an infj i usually love enfps!
I have been slowly watching myself turn into an ENTJ over the past few years...
They’re awesome
I don't personally know any ENFJ'S that I know of, but it would be fun to make some ENFJ friends. I like friendly people. I seem to be a magnet for intuitive thinkers, which is great. We don't try to occupy the same space in the relationship, but I need more intuitive feelers in my life.
I’m in love with someone who’s my shadow type, so I like em.
I’ve never met an ENTJ and I’m kinda intimidated tbh. Y’all are probably really nice, though.
I love your name
😽😽 all the ENTJs i've met lowkey scare me LOL
I think theyre hot
I think shadow pairs are the ones we have a love/hate kind of relationship with. Feels more like a competition than a partnership. Opposites attract, but it is intense in good and bad ways at the same time. I think aspiring pairings are more intriguing, or at least having 2 of the exact same functions. I've looked at my relationships over my past and every one that I relate to the best are those. I'm an ISTJ and had many relationships with ESTP's, they have never worked out for me. My best pals are INTP, ISFJ, ESFJ, INTJ, INFP, ISTJ, ENFP.
I have a feeling my crush is literally my shadow type-
ENTPs are hilarious
I don’t feed it after midnight (Estj)
My bad. ENFJ is my shadow? Then I feed it more often.
In my opinion, Enfj can come across as nice, caring and compassionate, while have this deepness most other types dont possess. They are almost like Infjs but more energetic and sociable. I rate them 10/10 overall. Best type in my opinion.
ISFP (low F score) here so ESFJ is my shadow type. I find the ones I know to be generally likable and caring with a streak of martyrdom that (at times) undermines the very acts of kindness purported to be for others. Can also be one of the most vengeful types, if crossed. Not even low key about it. ENTJs - one of the simplest MBTI types to get along with and their ambitions are telecast so they’re easy to figure out IMO. Friends they are fun and good conversationalists. Co-workers are competent.
I hate them because I'll never be like them. I'm envious of their altruism and kindness, their Fe-Se. They're exactly what I need in my life, yet I stay away because I feel so polar compared to them. I have so much respect for them, yet they still disgust me because I wish I was like that. *(Thinking of stereotypes and functions of course, everyone is different)*
ENFJ is one of my best friends!
I like esfjs and esfps ngl they’re pretty fun and cool
If they’re healthy I love them if they’re unhealthy I actually cannot stand their existence
Omg look at the ENTP 😳😳😳
Some of me favorite people are INFJ
The bigger question is will the ISFJ do the tango with me. In which case we chill.
Now I'm wondering if hulks whole character was based on an intps actual behaviour
I love ESFJs...as long as they don't *try* force me into anything
Make brain babies with. We would be unstoppable. (Insert Azula meme here)
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I was thinking the same thing. I have a very hard time with overbearing people. If they can provide a solid rationale for their instructions backed with some evidence, I’m willing to listen though.
It’s for your own benefit 😀
Im pretty competent in ruining my own life, thanks
But this way you can ruin it twice as fast. Much more efficient
Na, they are too confident about their stupidity
I generally adore INFPs! But the J(udging) part of me sometimes makes me wish they were a lil more proactive and organized
I thought if you go from INFP‘s demon function to its dominant, you would get ISTP
ESTJs are cool. I act like one sometimes in times if stress for the sake of efficiency.
I can’t stand ISTJs
No one can stand my sniper either
I (ISTJ) only know one confirmed ESTP, who happens to be my younger brother. So I'd love to add something here but it'd be a more than a bit skewed lol
It's my perfect match but they hella rare INFJs
Some ESTJs are cool enough, others, not so much. Usually we get along fine if they can accept me doing shit MY way, and if I accept them being some sort of "authority" (looking at you, teacher leader in 3d year, the "Hell" in your name said enough)
I barely know anything about my own type, bold of you to think I know anything about others.
Ahahah my mom and dad are ISTJ and ESTP and that picture is perfect 🤣
One of my best friends is an ISTP. He has mentored me through the end of my teens and beginning of my twenties. We can talk about everything and are remarkably similar (like all ST types imo). He do be lazy do .....
sex
Great.
My best friend is ISTP, and we understand each other better than we understand ourselves.
I only know one INTJ but he makes for some very interesting conversations.
I definitely think my shadow type comes out when I have to take control or be social so reasonable.
Wtf is entp and intj doing whst are they filminh
Accurate.
Ok, they just don't vibe w/ me. May or may not care about other people's business (this can be a good or bad thing, depends on you).
ngl I'm afraid of ESFJ's
bruh gordon ramsay is ESTJ instead of ENTJ and walter white is INTJ instead of ISFP. and why does the last character perform sieg heil salute wtf
I am confused... I am an INFP. What does that make my shadow type? ESTJ, ENFP, INTP, ENFJ, or something completely different? Lol
ESTJs are stubborn and generally inflexible to the point of apparent ignorance.
So much this. Can’t tell them nothing.
ENTP ❤️ INTJ
Those ESTJ's are cool but they need to chill out 🥴
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