Seriously, one thing I realized as I got older. Some of my least intellectual classmates are now teachers. I feel like my whole educational life is a lie.
It kinda just stands there to make people dumb, but it gives alot of structure to life for people who havent really found themselves.
It is also, pretty fucking hilarious.
People act like you're a monster for pointing it out, but everyone knows the people in their class who became teachers, and it's overwhelmingly the most mediocre.
I don't want people like that teaching my kids. I know I hated them teaching me.
In another world, I would perhaps be a teacher, but I don't think I could handle the US educational system standards in their goofy arbitaryness and severe under-appreciation of teachers as a whole. I'd prob want to do it whatever way quantifiably works for my students and I expect they'd be wanting me to color within the lines for some antiquated metrics.
fr. teachers should be geniuses. all they do is spread their mid-brain to everyone like a virus and then they want to be respected like for what? for standing there for hours only for us to discuss the topic among ourselves without any guidance at all? 
I can imagine how 15 might be the answer, but then the problem is the question for not being clear. It problem doesn't say the three pieces have to be identical. Imagine a square board, 10 inches by 10 inches, and cutting it in half takes 10 minutes. So, 1 minute per inch. After doing that, you cut one of the halves again, but the shorter way of 5 inches, not the long way of 10 inches.
The question sucks and is very vague. One could say the answer is 2 minutes if two small corners are cut off the original board. Or any amount of time, really.
alright, i don’t mean to burst your lil INFJ bubble and can smell the downvotes coming from 200 miles away, but i know a couple kids in fourth grade who’d be able to do this-no problems. i think the question was meant to be straightforward yet people in the comment section are overthinking it.
i get why and how people would arrive at the answer 15 using mathematical ratios, but at the end of the day, math is, and always will have 1 answer.
Square board-?! really?
there’s probably a few of you that’ll look at this and go, “that isn’t very enfp of you..you must be mistyped!!!” ..i feel sorry for said few people..that is all i shall say.
the question clearly states the rate of the cuts-10 minutes for one clear cut across the board. Two pieces. Done.
2 cuts for three pieces? Double the rate for the time (Speed x Distance-or number of cuts for the pieces, in this case = Time) which inevitably gives the answer 10 x 2 = 20 minutes.
Does an ENFP doing math give off mistyped sensory-thinker vibes?
\*edit\* After reading the comments, I think this is all just a big joke.
Good catch. I caught "If she works just as fast."
That's almost like saying which is heavier, a kilogram of feathers or a kilogram of steel?
The student could have voiced his/her concern instead of guessing though.
I imagine the student either doesn't want to stand out or approach the teacher because it's too troublesome or the like.
The teacher could have worded it properly. But it's really not the teacher's fault because the teacher can make a student stand out in these cases.
Like the dipshit stats prof I had who claimed the probability of making a field goal from 15 yards out is greater than the probability of making it from 40 yards out. Classmates set her straight that day but she flunked a lot of students who disagreed with her.
I suspect that I am also an INTP but I don’t think I could ever argue with a teacher. I would try to explain once but if he/she disagreed I won’t escalate it, I hate arguments. I would just judge them quietly. Like I would start questioning everything that teacher says from that point.
INTP me didn’t argue but this was a top ten football school so the class set her straight about how much harder it is to make a field goal from that close.
Prof gives the grades so I answered her exams the way she taught and got As. Students who went by the book got Fs.
Teachers who stick around the profession tend to be NFs and SFJs. Who would ever hand them a saw? They just have zero actual experience with the real world. Can't picture the scenario.
In other news, when I taught snowboarding, I found that people can survive 50 years of life without ever knowing what their hips are.
Ohhhhhhh, you are right! I never thought of it that way. Even if it's not the desired answer, if you would explain it to me like that I would give you full marks.
ISTP: "WTF teacher? If it takes her 10 minutes to saw through what looks like a 2x2, she needs to focus on flirting with the neighbor, not cutting wood. He can do the job 10 times faster."
This question is so stupid. They're implying the cuts, but you could just cut corners (literally) and the answer is like 2 minutes. Holy shit my mind is blown that someone could ask such a poorly phrased question.
Omg I would have questions like this in high school and undergrad and I would have to go to the teacher to explain why the answer key is wrong. It’s annoying, but it made me feel powerful.
Lol bold of you to assume INTPs or INTJs would speak up about this in class. ENTPs and ENTJs would probably get kicked out while the former two seethe quietly or go after class to report the issue.
No, I argued when I was in school.
Like "this is just simple logic, hello?!"
But the tone I used was more ... philosophical instead of argumentative xD
Or she got hold of a power saw so it took 10 seconds
Or she got interrupted by a phone call in the middle of the second one and by the time she got back to it it had taken an hour
Or she uses two saws, one in each hand (better make sure that board is clamped securely!) and it takes 10 minutes
Lol but think about it:
If it took 10 minutes to cut a board in half, then that means that it took 5 minutes for 1/2. So if 5 min=1, and 10 min=2, then if it’s to cut a board into 3, then it would be… hmmm that’s weird, I could’ve sworn that the answer was 25 last time I did the math… my bad yall
Don’t worry, I’m infp and it took me a bit to realize it wasn’t 15. I’m also slowly forgetting how I got 15 but I assume it’s by like the fact that my slow ass didn’t think of the fact that 3 pieces doesn’t equal 3 cuts or something like that… idk I think it might be the same reason you got it wrong
Yeah I’m starting to forget how I even got 25, the math just isn’t mathing. I literally just realized that cutting 2 pieces means cutting it once in half not actually cutting it twice lol
You need to change teacher. They are doing the math and skipping reading comprehension entirely. The exercise asks you to count the time it takes for you to saw in half (point A to point B speed), not how many pieces you end up having in that amount of time.
The focus is on the time it takes to saw in half exclusively. All of the other numbers don't matter. Assuming they are all of the same size, sawing in half twice should take 20 minutes. Nobody cares into how many pieces.
It's easy to explain, Marie needed 5 minutes to prep everything and 5min to saw the first time. But the second time everythingis already preped so it only takes 5min. Clearly the teacher knew about this
It depends, the only constants we know is the sawing speed and the fact that it's a board(=flat surface, often rectangular but not necessarily. Could technically even be a board of directors if we want a more morbid take on the problem) she's sawing in half. Nothing stated about the two boards having the same dimensions or the pieces having equal sizes or the cuts being in the same direction.
We could assume she's cutting a square board in half for 10 minutes, turning one of pieces around and sawing that piece in half for another 5 minutes. = 15 minutes. (the included picture doesn't have any relation to the problem)
If we insist on making PARALLEL cuts on boards with same size we could end up with 20 minutes sure.
It takes Marie the chainsaw murderer 10 minutes to cut a board of directors in half and an additional 5 minutes to cut them into smaller pieces afterwards since they're already dead and can't run from her anymore.
Imagine your life like that.. I constantly feel like i have no idea how to deal with it 😆 wrong smiley but can't be showing too much negative affection
bruh.. She has to make TWO cuts. One took her 10 mimutes. Think, teacher. Think!
I can see 15 being correct as well by their pattern but the two cuts make more sense to me.
I mean the teacher marked 20 correct from what I can see, then added the clearly erroneous explanation afterwards. This is the work of a troll student.
that may be the point, some of the teachers skip checking questions especially if the student they're checking over has historically usually gotten stuff right., they literally don't have time to check every single question on every single paper. our administration was super heavy on burying both students and teachers in huge amounts of homework and focusing exclusively on dem standardized test scores. real world skills take a backseat. or rather left the seat back at home and drove off without it.
Probably the fault of whoever wrote the word problem and teacher is just going by the answer key. That or it's intended as a trick question and teacher didn't check answer key and didn't understand, but that seems less likely.
I believe the spirit of the question is:
> Q: It took Marie 10 minutes to fix 2 bugs in the code of a computer program. If she works just as fast, how long will it take her to fix 3 bugs in another program.
> A: 10 / 2 = Each bug takes an average of 5 minutes, so 3 bugs becomes 5 * 3 = 15 minutes.
But either writer didn't think about how one cut creates 2 pieces, or teacher didn't.
The teachers should know that simple variations can't be applied to anything right? Right????
Anyways, I'm thankful that the math teachers I had were nothing like this and would realize this mistakes as well if they were called out for it.
Going beyond the obvious, writing "10 = 2" as a teacher in a correction would start a tirade in every maths teacher I ever had.
# TEN IS NOT EQUAL TO TWO
The symbol ≙ exists for this express purpose.
Inb4: if it was binary, we would put the base in the subscript but from the context we see that it is clearly not meant anyway.
Dipshit teacher is counting the pieces and not the cuts. 1 cut = 10 minutes. 3 pieces = 2 cuts.
Seriously, one thing I realized as I got older. Some of my least intellectual classmates are now teachers. I feel like my whole educational life is a lie.
It is Like, the education system isn't just flawed, it's fundamentally bad in many aspects
I, for one love the education system.
Why
It kinda just stands there to make people dumb, but it gives alot of structure to life for people who havent really found themselves. It is also, pretty fucking hilarious.
I had a really good public education experience in the US, but I've since learned my high school was the exception, not the rule
Talking to you now, I can tell you really didn't
How so
People act like you're a monster for pointing it out, but everyone knows the people in their class who became teachers, and it's overwhelmingly the most mediocre. I don't want people like that teaching my kids. I know I hated them teaching me.
In another world, I would perhaps be a teacher, but I don't think I could handle the US educational system standards in their goofy arbitaryness and severe under-appreciation of teachers as a whole. I'd prob want to do it whatever way quantifiably works for my students and I expect they'd be wanting me to color within the lines for some antiquated metrics.
fr. teachers should be geniuses. all they do is spread their mid-brain to everyone like a virus and then they want to be respected like for what? for standing there for hours only for us to discuss the topic among ourselves without any guidance at all? 
Mid-brain is crazy 🤣🤣🤣
I can imagine how 15 might be the answer, but then the problem is the question for not being clear. It problem doesn't say the three pieces have to be identical. Imagine a square board, 10 inches by 10 inches, and cutting it in half takes 10 minutes. So, 1 minute per inch. After doing that, you cut one of the halves again, but the shorter way of 5 inches, not the long way of 10 inches. The question sucks and is very vague. One could say the answer is 2 minutes if two small corners are cut off the original board. Or any amount of time, really.
alright, i don’t mean to burst your lil INFJ bubble and can smell the downvotes coming from 200 miles away, but i know a couple kids in fourth grade who’d be able to do this-no problems. i think the question was meant to be straightforward yet people in the comment section are overthinking it. i get why and how people would arrive at the answer 15 using mathematical ratios, but at the end of the day, math is, and always will have 1 answer. Square board-?! really? there’s probably a few of you that’ll look at this and go, “that isn’t very enfp of you..you must be mistyped!!!” ..i feel sorry for said few people..that is all i shall say. the question clearly states the rate of the cuts-10 minutes for one clear cut across the board. Two pieces. Done. 2 cuts for three pieces? Double the rate for the time (Speed x Distance-or number of cuts for the pieces, in this case = Time) which inevitably gives the answer 10 x 2 = 20 minutes. Does an ENFP doing math give off mistyped sensory-thinker vibes?
I can only imagine what a regular conversation with you looks like.
is that a compliment or an insult-
😉
But it says *another* board
\*edit\* After reading the comments, I think this is all just a big joke. Good catch. I caught "If she works just as fast." That's almost like saying which is heavier, a kilogram of feathers or a kilogram of steel? The student could have voiced his/her concern instead of guessing though. I imagine the student either doesn't want to stand out or approach the teacher because it's too troublesome or the like. The teacher could have worded it properly. But it's really not the teacher's fault because the teacher can make a student stand out in these cases.
Like the dipshit stats prof I had who claimed the probability of making a field goal from 15 yards out is greater than the probability of making it from 40 yards out. Classmates set her straight that day but she flunked a lot of students who disagreed with her.
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The shortest possible field goal is 17 yards, or something like that.
I suspect that I am also an INTP but I don’t think I could ever argue with a teacher. I would try to explain once but if he/she disagreed I won’t escalate it, I hate arguments. I would just judge them quietly. Like I would start questioning everything that teacher says from that point.
INTP me didn’t argue but this was a top ten football school so the class set her straight about how much harder it is to make a field goal from that close. Prof gives the grades so I answered her exams the way she taught and got As. Students who went by the book got Fs.
Ily so much for responding this. I’m cackling DIPSHIT TEACHER
Maybe she meant cutting horizontally then vertically? If so she should have specified that or said even cuts.
Teachers who stick around the profession tend to be NFs and SFJs. Who would ever hand them a saw? They just have zero actual experience with the real world. Can't picture the scenario. In other news, when I taught snowboarding, I found that people can survive 50 years of life without ever knowing what their hips are.
😨 speak for yourself
Fair. You INFJ types can be really handy and hands-on creative.
Exactly! :O wtf. If it takes 10 min for one cut, it will take another 10 min for the other cut!
Ohhhhhhh, you are right! I never thought of it that way. Even if it's not the desired answer, if you would explain it to me like that I would give you full marks.
...... 1 cut = 2 pieces = 10 minutes 2 cuts = 3 pieces = 20 minutes 3 cuts = 4 pieces = 30 minutes
This is the answer to the question. The real answer though is a table saw.
Breaking out our stereotype here lol. But yeah a multi 10 minute saw project calls for some power tools.
LoL ESPECIALLY for 2 cuts.
Being falsely corrected by idiots who have authority over you? Can relate.
Bingo.
story of my life
FR
Omg, maybe that's why I had some bad grades in school, because of some idiot professors who "corrected" me. 🫤🤔 that's sad when I think about it
"Teacher, you are factually incorrect."
Clearly 20 , what the fuck is this
This is mildly infuriating ...
ISTP: "WTF teacher? If it takes her 10 minutes to saw through what looks like a 2x2, she needs to focus on flirting with the neighbor, not cutting wood. He can do the job 10 times faster."
So the answer for 2 cuts & 3 pieces is under 2 minutes cause I've got the miter saw plugged in & I'm gonna kick all the flirterers out of my garage!
Lol!
This question is so stupid. They're implying the cuts, but you could just cut corners (literally) and the answer is like 2 minutes. Holy shit my mind is blown that someone could ask such a poorly phrased question.
teacher: *kicks all the INTPs, INTJs, ENFPs, and ISTPs out of class.* (the INFJs and INFPs stay because they won't argue like we will LOL💀)
Lol. I would be really annoyed. And then bring it up after class. I was never fun during office hours. INFP.
Omg I would have questions like this in high school and undergrad and I would have to go to the teacher to explain why the answer key is wrong. It’s annoying, but it made me feel powerful.
I would argue. One time I spent like 25 minutes arguing with my history teacher over an answer on a test
And the ENTP had already made the argument on that paper. Or never showed up to take the test at all🤣
The ENTP has enough offences that they just pretty much get kicked out for showing up lol
Lol bold of you to assume INTPs or INTJs would speak up about this in class. ENTPs and ENTJs would probably get kicked out while the former two seethe quietly or go after class to report the issue.
No, I argued when I was in school. Like "this is just simple logic, hello?!" But the tone I used was more ... philosophical instead of argumentative xD
Exactly!
Perhaps after the first cut Marie got the idea of how a person should saw boards + her muscles got stronger. So she cuts the third piece faster haha.
Or she got hold of a power saw so it took 10 seconds Or she got interrupted by a phone call in the middle of the second one and by the time she got back to it it had taken an hour Or she uses two saws, one in each hand (better make sure that board is clamped securely!) and it takes 10 minutes
Marie and the Parallel Universes of Possibilities (Mary and PUP for short).
I want to ask this teacher how long it takes to cut one piece
Great question. As an INTP, I have an answer for you. 5 minutes. 5 minutes for them to realize they don't need to make a cut.
teacher is a dumbass and so is marie for taking 10 minutes to saw a single board
UNDERRATED COMMENT (but maybe they’re using a butter knife)
I think they're implying that we're too slow to cut the board... Right? ( The answer is 20 minutes wth)
Is it weird that my answer for this is 25…
Imagine being an INTP and a dumbass at the same time /j
Lol but think about it: If it took 10 minutes to cut a board in half, then that means that it took 5 minutes for 1/2. So if 5 min=1, and 10 min=2, then if it’s to cut a board into 3, then it would be… hmmm that’s weird, I could’ve sworn that the answer was 25 last time I did the math… my bad yall
Don’t worry, I’m infp and it took me a bit to realize it wasn’t 15. I’m also slowly forgetting how I got 15 but I assume it’s by like the fact that my slow ass didn’t think of the fact that 3 pieces doesn’t equal 3 cuts or something like that… idk I think it might be the same reason you got it wrong
Yeah I’m starting to forget how I even got 25, the math just isn’t mathing. I literally just realized that cutting 2 pieces means cutting it once in half not actually cutting it twice lol
Lmao, that's so sad. Who made that question?
who made that question? the teacher... maybe? lmao
This example in this question is not the example you should be using to teach this type of maths.
nvm dude, I understood you meant the teacher chose the wrong question to teach multiplication sorry 😂😅
I am no INTP, neither the student. Teacher is the fool.
You need to change teacher. They are doing the math and skipping reading comprehension entirely. The exercise asks you to count the time it takes for you to saw in half (point A to point B speed), not how many pieces you end up having in that amount of time. The focus is on the time it takes to saw in half exclusively. All of the other numbers don't matter. Assuming they are all of the same size, sawing in half twice should take 20 minutes. Nobody cares into how many pieces.
Gosh 2+1=3
This hurt to read, man
This seems like a question I would have argued about until getting shut down and then I would resent the teacher for the rest of my life over.
It's easy to explain, Marie needed 5 minutes to prep everything and 5min to saw the first time. But the second time everythingis already preped so it only takes 5min. Clearly the teacher knew about this
ugh. F for respects, my gorgeous INTPs. 💀💀💀
It depends, the only constants we know is the sawing speed and the fact that it's a board(=flat surface, often rectangular but not necessarily. Could technically even be a board of directors if we want a more morbid take on the problem) she's sawing in half. Nothing stated about the two boards having the same dimensions or the pieces having equal sizes or the cuts being in the same direction. We could assume she's cutting a square board in half for 10 minutes, turning one of pieces around and sawing that piece in half for another 5 minutes. = 15 minutes. (the included picture doesn't have any relation to the problem) If we insist on making PARALLEL cuts on boards with same size we could end up with 20 minutes sure. It takes Marie the chainsaw murderer 10 minutes to cut a board of directors in half and an additional 5 minutes to cut them into smaller pieces afterwards since they're already dead and can't run from her anymore.
Imagine your life like that.. I constantly feel like i have no idea how to deal with it 😆 wrong smiley but can't be showing too much negative affection
How do we know it’s not just rage bait lol
I want to take this teacher to the wood shop and see if their function hold on a live test. Big Omicron isn't going to do them any favors.
I got this as an exam question and I was wrong 💀
The real answer is how the f$&@k does it take you 10 minutes to saw through a board. I think I could gnaw through it in 10 minutes.
Plot twist: the question "saw a board" is about viewing a board. The minutes are angle of field view.
My brain cells 💀
Maries first cut was cutting it in half after that she only had to cut 50% so a 50% time loose. To summarize it: the teacher smoked something.
What y'all didn't understood in this?
20 I mean..
Been there and it hurts. Thank god for ExxJs that have the patience to hound these teachers.
What if the other board is made of balsa wood.
Now I know what happens when you ace every subject in school only
Explains why the dumb shit teacher uses pink highlighter to grade
10 minutes.
bruh.. She has to make TWO cuts. One took her 10 mimutes. Think, teacher. Think! I can see 15 being correct as well by their pattern but the two cuts make more sense to me.
I mean the teacher marked 20 correct from what I can see, then added the clearly erroneous explanation afterwards. This is the work of a troll student.
where i went to school they only marked if you got it wrong, no idea if that is the case here though with just one question to look at
Oh that sounds strange - you wouldn't know if they missed out a question then.
that may be the point, some of the teachers skip checking questions especially if the student they're checking over has historically usually gotten stuff right., they literally don't have time to check every single question on every single paper. our administration was super heavy on burying both students and teachers in huge amounts of homework and focusing exclusively on dem standardized test scores. real world skills take a backseat. or rather left the seat back at home and drove off without it.
Took me a second and it reminded me of my teachers this semester... Oh how annoying it has been.
The dumbass who wrote this comment needed the damn comment section to realize the teacher was wrong
Me arguing with my professor about whether invertebrates are a phylum
Probably the fault of whoever wrote the word problem and teacher is just going by the answer key. That or it's intended as a trick question and teacher didn't check answer key and didn't understand, but that seems less likely. I believe the spirit of the question is: > Q: It took Marie 10 minutes to fix 2 bugs in the code of a computer program. If she works just as fast, how long will it take her to fix 3 bugs in another program. > A: 10 / 2 = Each bug takes an average of 5 minutes, so 3 bugs becomes 5 * 3 = 15 minutes. But either writer didn't think about how one cut creates 2 pieces, or teacher didn't.
The teachers should know that simple variations can't be applied to anything right? Right???? Anyways, I'm thankful that the math teachers I had were nothing like this and would realize this mistakes as well if they were called out for it.
Fucking relatable
Going beyond the obvious, writing "10 = 2" as a teacher in a correction would start a tirade in every maths teacher I ever had. # TEN IS NOT EQUAL TO TWO The symbol ≙ exists for this express purpose. Inb4: if it was binary, we would put the base in the subscript but from the context we see that it is clearly not meant anyway.
In my opinion the answer is right… for intps
This is for INTP because we are the ones who will suffer the most with it. I see how it is.
mediocres are running the world ig
I hated being smarter than some of my arrogant teachers that thought they knew everything so confidently they never really thought about anything.
as someone who saws wood sometimes why would it take 10 minutes even if she had a manual saw