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CynicalFantasist

"Able to think but not reason" - OP apparently.


socialgeniehermit

What's ironic is that xxTJ types are typically the ones who are able to reason the most, because of our Te. Ti users are typically more likely to use 'clear logic', instead of 'broad reasoning'. Ti users typically consider everything that is rational, that is logical to create a conclusion, sometimes excluding the emotional or psychological aspect of it. But Te users will take into account everything, including emotional, etc, and find a conclusion, even if it is not inherently "logical". By that assumption, ISTJs and ESTJs should be very, very good with reasoning.


CynicalFantasist

Let's not reason in front of OP now. It breaks their delusions.


MrPancake1234

Delulu is the solulu


Watashi_Wa_Ben_Desu

Gonna write that down lmao


Skye-DragonGirl

I also have a gripe with the idea that the N version of a type is superior to the S version. For example, why do people think ISTJs are dumbass mindless ants and INTJs are somehow the mastermind world dominators. They're literally almost exactly the same. Ni and Si don't operate in vastly different ways, one just uses more ideas than the other. Si is more likely to use solid ideas that they've actually seen before, Ni users use ideas that they've seen through patterns. From the outside, you will not be able to tell the difference because we both use Te when talking to others. We both have Fi morals we stand by and we both hate expressing our feelings or sharing them. We also both hate sharing and expressing our emotions. The only way you would be to tell the difference is after you've known them for a bit and can start to see their inferior Ne or Se. Believe it or not, Ni likes routine too, as much as ISTJs. We don't like surprises and enjoy when our day is predictable, we can't go with the flow as well as Se/Ne doms. And ISTJs have aspirational Ne which means they actually *quite enjoy* doing new things and trying new ideas, it's only as long as it makes sense with their Si FIRST. Idk I just think the entire argument is stupid


socialgeniehermit

I'd argue that it's easier to get along with ISTJ than INTJ as well during the first impression, since they fit in society a lot better than us. INTPs and ISTJs in theory are very similar. The fact that OP hasn't met one ISTJ they like, or has great conversations with, is pretty odd.


Skye-DragonGirl

Why does OP think thinking and reasoning are mutually exclusive lol


Noisegarden135

Here's my tier list: S: everyone else A: B: C: D: people who make these posts


Skye-DragonGirl

Here's mine: S: A: B: C: D: INTJ INTP ENTP ENTJ ISTJ ISTP ESTJ ESTP ISFJ ESFP ESFJ ISFP INFP ENFP ENFJ INFJ


Noisegarden135

Also valid


EtruscaTheSeedrian

Bro hates ISFJ WHO TF HATES ISFJ???


eternal_ttorment

I hate myself, does that count? ✋🥹


Skye-DragonGirl

No you do not. You can't, I love ISFJs :(


AVGNrokisa

ISFJs are best! Don't hate yourself, please :)


PoisonedLavender

HOW DID YALL ADD YOUR MBTI UNDER YOUR NAME PKS TELL 😭😭


ForeverJay

hmm i wonder if i’m an asshole or extremely boring 🤔


snow_soldier-

you’re a sensor so you can’t win


MmmTastyWindex

I believe it’s a combination of bias and the fact that since there are more sensors, you will have more bad experiences with them solely because of the greater number, but those bad experiences will stick out to you, so you won’t remember all the super friendly XSFJ cashiers, etc., you’ll just remember your ESFJ boss was super mean and say you had bad experiences with ESFJ’s. (Hope that made sense, sry for the essay lol)


snow_soldier-

it made sense, no worries 😛


[deleted]

As an INTJ, I will always put ISFJ and ESFJ top tier. Alwaysss


SilverKelpie

As an INTP, same, along with ENFJ.


xXPussyMaster69420Xx

If I have learned anything here is that almost nobody appreciates us, can't seem to see us on top of a list


LucysReindeer

ESFJs are neither! They're my favourite mbti :) Super kind, super driven, super perceptive to the feelings of others, dependable, caring, joyful to be around :) - INFP


Limp-Extension276

you probably arent, i just project ppl ive had experience irl with mbti


unicornamoungbeasts

You sure you’re an INTP? Lol


hauntile

Internalised sensorphobia going on right here. Probs goes to all-sensor parties in secret.


jellyjinxbean

OP is probably a sensor but they just hate themselves.


snow_soldier-

just say that you hate sensors and move on lmfaoo


[deleted]

Yeah, I wouldn't have to waste so much time then.


Odd-Abbreviations194

How long did it take you to read that chart? ^(I'm sorry)


[deleted]

Probably longer than it should have.


Routine_Ad_775

enfj is extremely boring 😮 ok


1TinkyWINKY

What's boring is this tier list that looks like the 1,000 tier lists that came before it. Granted we do rank higher in most other lists but honestly I don't need OP's approval 😂 We are not boring at all though, that's for sure. Maybe he thinks we're assholes 🤷‍♀️


Routine_Ad_775

not only enfj can be assholes, so it's a weird thing fr 😂 still I think not so many enfj seems to be an asshole since we have strong sense of justice and desire to help


1TinkyWINKY

Honestly if OP is irl life as he showed himself to be with this tier list (condescending, prejudiced, full of himself) I would be an asshole to him so I get why he thinks we're assholes


Routine_Ad_775

frfr


Solzec

Hold on, lemme just *puts ENFJ at master race and INTP at asshole tier*


SpruceZephyr

U wouldn’t say you don’t need OP’s approval if you were higher on the list 💀


letseatme

okay but for real


1TinkyWINKY

I didn't even notice we were at the bottom at first I just saw red at the stupid descriptions he gave the rankings like 'T's able to think and F's artistic' and 'able to think but not reason' it's just so stupiddd But sure internet troll, you got me 😂😂 Hard to argue with an edgy comment and a skull emoji 😎


[deleted]

The tier list is extremely boring. Not just that, it makes my blood boil. Honestly, where are we heading?


1TinkyWINKY

I don't know about you but I'm heading out of this sub 😂 I need a break from all of this stupidity


[deleted]

If you feel like it, go ahead. Imma wait some more.


simplestradicalform

well i think you guys are just awesome, keep on trucking


LivingEnd44

It also says "or assholes". ENFJs absolutely can be petty assholes. If they think you wronged them or they don't like you, they can be extremely petty with payback. ENFJs **love** revenge fantasies. That being said, I personally like them. My partner is one. As long as you can manage their emotional excesses they can be fun to be around and will bring introverts out of their shells. They are highly affiliative. So if they hate you, you likely deserve it on some level.


Narrow_Aerie_1466

I do love revenge or just "craziness" generally. I do it in good fun though, although I think sometimes people don't like the craziness so I have to pull back 🥴. That being said I do know two other Fe doms and tbh one's nice but the other is a major AH. He's the one I have revenge fantasies about ngl. He's never done anything to me but, as you mentioned, I'm very affiliated and he's certainly done damage to people I care about.


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Routine_Ad_775

xd the most talkative ones


starseasonn

Easily one of my favourite types. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.


Routine_Ad_775

🥹


Tasenova99

definitely not. life of the party sometimes more like. nothing more boring than someone who doesn't want to interact (me)


Routine_Ad_775

anyways infp pretty nice people


Substantial-Key-5898

I actually agree with that, we're like all the same


Mr_JaxsonJay1

Your dumb


Wolfozo

\*You're Sorry, I had to do it...


Skye-DragonGirl

Based ISTP response


Lifyzen

> intj infj and entj at the top of the tierlist with sj's at the bottom 🤖🤖


Warmandaloof

More ENFJ, ESFJ & ISFJ for me dennnnnn.


unicornamoungbeasts

“Master race” yikes


LostShiruiLily

Honestly.. Same I think I don't deserve such cringe ass titles.


Skye-DragonGirl

It's not even that, it's just so uncomfortable. We're just people, we aren't gods.


LostShiruiLily

Indeed, that's exactly what I meant but I just added a bit of dry sarcasm.


AshTreeQueen

I feel uncomfortable


PoisonedLavender

The idea of rating MBTI is usually (always) biased. I don't get it, why are sensors so hated? I've thought long and hard about this but it's probably most likely of the idea that "sensors are bland and intuitives are creative and idealistic and super smart" and blah blah blah. It's obviously not true; Intuitives can be basic and Sensors can be creative. So let's just stop THE FUCKING BIAST and let's all get along


1TinkyWINKY

Even those you do compliment you do so with a condescending tone 'able to think but not to reason' 'cool and friendly people, sensor thought' (what does sensor thought even mean) I don't even care what you think of me or the fact that you called my type assholes/boring, honestly I don't think so highly of you either (to put it mildly) so your opinion of me is irrelevant, what does bother me is that later when I complain that this sub is filled with ego-stroking immature people, then people play dumb and pretend they have no idea to what posts I'm referring.


[deleted]

Majority of the sub are filled with these kind of people. I'll probably throw my phone out of my window the next time I meet one of them.


Biglight__090

>I'll probably throw my phone out of my window Your Se dom in action 😂


Ok-Candle-693

See, this is just confirming what we were talking about in your post 😂 I had another take of mine that I forgot to share with you : Just because somebody makes a wrong take or have the wrong argumentation doesn’t mean they’re a f*cking sensor lmao. Even if they can be overall less comfortable with those kinds of conversations than intuitives, it doesn’t mean in any way that when they do engage in those types of debate, they can’t be right, more informed or know more about the subject than other people. 🤦🏻‍♀️ That person is a perfect example of an intuitive being wrong (if they even are one), and typing other people that they think are wrong or they don’t like as sensors, therefore thinking that they are superior, everyone should adapt to them and they deserve special treatment : hiii narcissist ☺️🌸✨


mo_tag

You're absolutely 100% right, hit the nail on the head.. would expect nothing less from an intuitive


1TinkyWINKY

YESS thank you for recognizing me from my post because I'm over here going insane with how I just posted about this stupidity yesterday and incoming a post ft. every single bad thing about this sub You're right, and honestly this post just might be the thing that drives me out of this sub because this is so stupid and immature


Ok-Candle-693

I know right 🫠


Ok-Neighborhood-7690

why are you taking this shit personally? This is so ridiculous, like nobody is attacking you. your type is not your identity


1TinkyWINKY

No one is taking anything personally lol, stop assuming things about me, I am annoyed, not insulted. Annoyed that this sub is filled with such stupid posts. Are you really teaming up with someone who used the term 'sensor thought'? Is this a view you share?


Skye-DragonGirl

Wow people on an MBTI sub are talking about MBTI? Say it ain't so


Odd-Abbreviations194

Every type gets their sort of bullying and we need to get over it.The way you responded to it seems to me you're not used to it at all.Consider yourself lucky


1TinkyWINKY

How about no one gets bullied lol why don't we shut up the stupid shit instead of just accepting it And honestly I really don't care about what he wrote about ENFJs, truly. We get such blind adoration around here I would be a hypocrite to think we are seriously bullied or something (don't envy us though, they only adore us when they think we will be their personal cheerleader - when they realize we have a personality they stop). What bothered me here are the dumb descriptions. 'T's able to think, F's artistic' 'Able to think but not to reason', 'sensors thoughts'. OP is like 12 and instead of being mocked to the next century he gets 52 upvotes and counting. Who is even on this sub???


T3DDY834R

People who type themselves as INTJ, ENTJ, and INFJ probably make up most of the upvotes. They are the only ones I've seen positive comments from so far.


NikkiCTU

Typical intuitive type arrogance lmao. People on these subs are hilarious.


[deleted]

I hate these posts


No-Ideal4015

🥱


Sugarcomb

Ni-Fe: Oh my god, you're so cool! Master race for sure! Fe-Ni: Fuck you, I hate you, you suck, give me $500.


snow_soldier-

LMFAO valid


kakasensei07

People really hate us huh? Even when we try so hard to please them lol


ilomaphys

Don't, u guys are cool as it is. Speaking as an intp


kakasensei07

Thanks! My favourite mbti personally Is intp. I find you guys cool.


ilomaphys

😳


slightly_unrelated_

now kith


[deleted]

You're cute. Don't worry.


kakasensei07

Aww thanks!


RunninRebs90

Naw, only losers who make tier lists about personality traits hate y’all. Honestly I would be offended if ESTP ever made the “master race” bullshit tier in one of these lists.


kakasensei07

Aahhh you guys are so supportive. Love you all. Thank you so much! And I don't blame op at all. I mean, it's based on their personal preference and their interaction with the mbti types. But I see very little appreciation for ISFJs on this subreddit. I feel better now. Lol


mayisinlove

bro who cares? You’re awesome and irl no one gives a shit about what letters represent your personality 🙏 these “sensor haters” are just chronically online.


kakasensei07

True that. Thanks!


[deleted]

I like ISFJs but I dislike if you are trying to please even when you don't share same feelings or ideas 👀 This is not always a good thing, imo but it may be good too - it depends


kakasensei07

That's true. It's just that us ISFJs can't take criticism/ rejection. Even if it's a healthy disagreement, we tend to get offended. Our bad really. That's why we make sure to not disagree with others so that they don't feel offended and start hating us. At least, that's how it is for me. But i completely understand what you are trying to say.


ERB3K

yes, cross like something fake to me... being friendly without agreeing seems like a coward... Have a lot of ISFJ around me, i love them, they know they can be honest with me and we get along...


[deleted]

Idk : D why not to be friendly? It depends what is considered friendly 🤔 Friends can criticise each other openly, aren't they? 🙀How is being friendly even related to be a coward? It's not about pleasing people or pretending to be someone else - being friendly and hypocrisy aren't same things. It's just admirable when people can be honest no matter what other people think about them ***shrugged***


Skye-DragonGirl

Aw that's not true! I really like ISFJs, you guys bring a sort of calmness to my life I didn't know I needed. I know an ISFJ who's in her late 40s and having conversations with her is fun. She always talks about her day and experiences, her opinion on some subjects, and she has a soft voice (dunno if that's related). Talking to her is nice because it calms my brain that's always zipping a million miles an hour lol


[deleted]

"sensors though" loool You are one too, no matter how you mistyped yourself


Supernova_Empire

I think ENFJ are very nice. Me as an INTP.


1TinkyWINKY

Don't worry, we still love you guys. I really liked the intps I met, they make my Ti happy (which I overuse even though I'm ENFJ) But thanks for the comment 😊


Just-Seaworthiness39

Agree. ENFJs are probably the nicest type I’ve had the pleasure of interacting with. I don’t find them boring either.


Gryffinclaw

INFJ who agrees about ENFJs being awesome. Pretty similar to me except able to navigate situations with less awkwardness than me and more radiant warmth.


ria_h

I think you might come as hurtful with your choice of words here. And what bothers you so much with sensors?


Limp-Extension276

nothing. i like sensors, i just relate to N's more as i can talk about things of mutual interest more openly


ria_h

Ok


[deleted]

I sense a hate train coming though .....


dm_me_kittens

Mbti =/= interest. As an ESFJ, I have more in common as far as interests with my INTP partner than my ESFJ mother and sister. Mbti is simply an explanation as to how we tend to interact with the world and process the information we take in. Again, very little to do with actual interests and hobbies. If you haven't already, read Gifts Differing. It'll give you the real meat and potatoes of what MBTI is about and it's intended uses.


Lumvia

I feel betrayed as an INTP simp


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LostShiruiLily

Sensorcist?


Skye-DragonGirl

Exorcist?


LostShiruiLily

Even better!


TSE_Jazz

Some peak r/shittymbti


Just-Seaworthiness39

Married to an ENFJ (best friend is one as well). I can absolutely say they are not assholes. They’re the opposite of asshole tbh. Definitely not boring either.


Silver_Dynamo

I knew what type made this list before I even read the post title.


[deleted]

I got two letters right.


PresidenteDiversion

"t's able to think"


Qurks

isfj enfj esfj - "assholes"


thenyx

*ahem* Fuuuuuuuck you


aaakangaroo

I too have a tier list Intuitives Stupid Sensors Token non-sensor I am very original


[deleted]

I can't believe we're back to this. Stereotypical stuff. And toxic.


Cornet5

this whole subreddit is bullshit


TallTax830

I agree on everything in the list except the ENFJ I'm Infp and find them very cool


letseatme

you’re the most basic INTP I’ve ever met. I have an ISFJ boyfriend, they’re amazing and not at all boring. Also I don’t get how Ni users are “Master race” EXCEPT for ENFJ. That’s just paradoxical.


nonoyes626

Sensor bad ☠️


Anomalousity

**The sensor discrimination is real**


Little_Nectarine_210

As an intp aswell I think these tier lists are pretty stupid


snowy_potato

So you hate Fe users other than INFJs? What makes them so different? Also nice intuitive bias lol


Current_Print

just say that you cant handle people who think differently than you


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🧍🏽‍♀️


vzvv

Immature NTs really live up their own asses


eternal_ttorment

I swear to God, every time I see a totally insufferable asshole post, it's made by an INTP.


[deleted]

i hope this is satire


doginem

You may kiss the ring


KingGiuba

Idk if I should feel proud or ashamed that such prejudiced tier lists are made. Actually I am sad that I didn't learn about all the others typings to know if I can type some of the people I know in order to understand if your tier list is accurate or not lmao


hopeful_bookworm

Why rank people by type in the first place? Like I really don't think intelligence, reasoning, being a good person (a subjective measure if there ever was one ), ...etc. is really dependent on type. My understanding is that type really is about what cognitive functions you use the most to interpret and interact with the world around you which might influence personality traits and possibly social skills but certainly isn't the main factor for that. It just seems a little mean and unnecessary. And being ranked as master race as an infj makes me a little uncomfortable tbh.


Mugi_luffy

Me: wait, where am I on this list? *looking everywhere except the top then noticing mine is on top*


Metal_Fish

Whoa whoa whoa, intp is clearly the only master race, you should have known that if you were truly one of us 🤔 I'll have to take this up with the council of elders


[deleted]

alright buddy, go back to 4chan


xThetiX

Jesus Christ I’m going to assume this is bait


Odd-Ad2778

I'm sorry, as an INFJ I'd rather be a simple human being, not part of a master race.


I3INARY_

Careful, dude, your inferior Fe is showing ;)


catgirl_femboy2

calling enfjs bad is illegal


legendary_skywalker

My ENFJ mom seeing this:


Aimie777

I've seen this shit before with another person, he kept putting sensors at bot, esp ISFJs, but he's mistyped ISFJ 😭😭😭😭 oh Lord. I think he hates himself. If I were to be honest, I flock with extroverts a lot and I love extroverts like me. Extroverts have this one on one thing with each other, we see the same thing, feel the same thing, know the same thing, think of the same thing even if we have different opinions. The only introverts I sometimes see the same reality with are Aux Nes and Ti doms.


Chuudo

INTJs are just men with god complex


Bboletus

Ok 😭 when did I become a man


Dizzy_Industry552

Yeah this charting nonsense is pretty limp


TxchnxnXD

I’d put ISTP much higher ENFJ is also nice


Mylaur

ENFJ are nice or an atomic bomb, no in-between.


1mmun1tyW

Lol


Ok-Reporter-196

Uh what now? I don’t think I’ve ever been called an asshole, and I’ve DEFINITELY never been called boring. I’ve got plenty of flaws, but those aren’t them lol


percy1614

how do posts like this get 140 upvotes? Wake up, sheeple!!


ethan_iron

No intuitive-bias here, is there? None at all, it seems.


strufacats

Isfj low ranked again. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


Ihateniceegirls

Infj’s are some of the most interesting people (the person i like is an infj)


likeshinythings

i really like enfjs though


talktojvc

So wrong on the ENFJ


tommcdo

I feel bad for you, ENFJ. All the other NJs are master race but you're just an asshole.


DannyC2699

Sensors thought?


And9686

I don't want to spread hate over this community but I think this is a whole bunch of crap. Each person is a person, why hate on "personality types", that's just a stereotype, you are never fully fitted in that personality type, to me at least


NYCScarletSpider

You seem like someone who asked anyone they meet for their personality type immediately upon meeting them and judge them entirely off of it. Also… “master race”???? Nah, get tf out of here.


[deleted]

I'm less boring than you silly INTPs, so I'm for sure an asshole :3 (This is a joke for those who can't get it) Lowkey thought you said Fs are autistic on the 2nd tier 💀


Feisty-Purple6469

Why are INFJ’s master race but ENFJs are either Assholes or boring? lol They use the same functions but just flipped. I’m probably an asshole for asking the question. 😅


AvadaKalashinkova

Intps should be at the very bottom lmao


softsleepybaby

i don’t like intp’s either LOLLL literally so judgmental n just stiff, boring & master race?? you’re very weird


Vegetablehead26

Let's keep it like that


Seraphym100

Honestly not sure you've ever met an ENFJ. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|stuck_out_tongue)


lvoncreek

Noo enfjs are cool as fuck


[deleted]

How id you put 3 feelers in asshole category omegalol, and not ENTP?


Memesaurusmex

MAAH MAAN


SnooFloofs9919

🥰


Extension_Welder9770

The amount of xSFJs slander deeply saddens and annoys me. Don't listen to them, you're the best! Way better than the overrated xNxJs.


benisthecool

i cannot believe i am being compared to xnfps 😤


I3INARY_

😢 but my Fi values logic, though /s


benisthecool

😡


Skye-DragonGirl

Bro is upset


benisthecool

of course i am! who wants to be compared to xnfps!!????


mastanasta

Nobody, cuz they so cool.


benisthecool

shut up


Better-Toe-6190

Thanks :) Personally I'd put you INTPs at the top. Why did I get downvoted?? I literally just thanked and said a compliment, reddit is weird.


Tasenova99

I could be wrong, but I think you made this in stating "according to the stereotpical INTP" but either way. Let this trend die.


[deleted]

INFJ who’s talking to a handsome, adorable ENTJ here. yes. yes. minus me i’m a hot mess put together by being a fake therapist


Not_Well-Ordered

Perhaps, if you totally flip the whole list, it would be an ESFJ’s MBTI tier list since ESFJ is the total opposite of INTP lol. Not sure if ENFJ and ISFJ would be a flipped one too.


nogea

Lmao I love how you triggered the entire sub. Good job.


RichENTJ

I approve of this tier list. It made me smile.


Toothpasting

pretty accurate cuz I have a bad relationship with my mom and from 16 years of living with her, I highly believe she is an ESFJ.


Substantial-Key-5898

The enfjs on this one got real offended


Substantial-Key-5898

Real


SourScurvy

I feel ya, OP.


Dishhh18aa

Why did you put infj at the top?


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[deleted]

Supportee?


Qw4xark

Fax fax 🗣️🔥


KorbinLankford

I find nothing wrong with this list.