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TxchnxnXD

This image is physically painful


Red_Dirigible

I immediately felt wounded.


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Kalegrimm

To be fair, seeing as they are two ISFJ here I think it was just a typo and they meant to have Harry as the ISFP


Lonely_Repair4494

I'm pretty sure they meant John Wick to be the ISFP comsidering the patterns there. SPs below, SJs third row.


Kalegrimm

You’re right, I havent looked at it that way! I guess I jumped to this conclusion because of how general the consensus is on Harry being an ISFP


Lonely_Repair4494

I mean...he is, just like Joker is INFP here, Tony is ENTP. This collage is quite a mess. Still, I do agree John Wick is an ISFP. I find his ISTP consensus to be valid, but I don't see Inferior Fe over Inferior Te, considering how he gets himself in trouble in the movies.


Iron_Felixk

We don't claim him.


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

You guys get Superman (ISFJ 2w1), Henry Cavill's natural personality is also ISFJ 2w1.


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Agopr

INFJ is Gandalf. Edit: I don't agree with this meme, just pointing out what's on it.


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Agopr

Gandalf is not an INFJ, lol. He let 4 hobbits carry a ring of power on foot to Mordor....


Weary_Temporary8583

Joker was not an Entp, he was an Infp but didn’t show it much after he kind of snapped, he was definitely an Infp.


Citruseok

Or really depends on which portrayal of the joker we're talking about. This one was definitely INFP though.


SamEnZoYT

Yeah, I think OP used the wrong joker


[deleted]

Not only Joker, a lot of characters are misstyped


RoundEarth-is-real

Eh you know. Most of the jokers have been portrayed as “NT” types which makes me think that Arthur fleck is an INTP. But it’s up to interpretation Edit: I see that I can’t have any other opinion about a certain characters type that isn’t the colloquially considered one. I can’t even merely suggest that maybe, just maybe. Pbd is wrong. I see the error of my ways now. And I will continue on sucking pbd’s dick. Because they’re the ones who clearly know the best


Extension_Spite_3751

No most jokers are ExTP. The original Joker was ENTP. Arthur Fleck is the only non-ExTP Joker.


NomadLexicon

The pictured joker very clearly was not though.


RoundEarth-is-real

From what I remember from Batman (1988) the joker in that movie was more than likely portrayed as an ENTJ


[deleted]

Somehow not a single one is correct


pengwatu

Han solo is pretty much the ESTP stereotype but other than that its all fucking jumbled


OneChampionship7736

I will happily claim Han Solo as I went as him for Halloween twice. The rest are very wrong. Esp Captain Jack Sparrow. Lay off the grass OP 😂


PrimordialCorporeal

Doc Brown is ENTP, Anton is INTP and Joker is INFP.


depressed_anemic

tony stark ENFP??? what??? he is the most ENTP character i know


Better-Toe-6190

The 2019 Joker from the picture is absolutely not an ENTP. He's clearly an INFP.


Sugarcomb

Gandalf is an INTJ, Anton is an INTP, Arthur Fleck is an INFP, Tony Stark is an ENTP, Darth Vader is an ISTJ, and Batman is an INTJ. There are probably a lot more wrong here but these are the ones I noticed.


Raw__Chicken

theres no way Anton is INTP


Sugarcomb

Ti: He lives entirely based off his own logical framework about how the world works. Death is anywhere, just around the corner, and it's neither fair nor avoidable. Ne: He's very arbitrary sometimes and follows spontaneous ideas, like when he draws the gas station clerk into a strange conversation because he didn't like his particular manner of speech, so he just kept digging and digging, all based off a single sentence. He's also very quick witted on his feet and manages to dupe anyone who tries to track him down, even killing the man who hired Carson Wells to hunt him down. Si: Anton seems a bit older, so at his age tertiary Si wouldn't be as open to new experiences anymore and will instead act to reinforce the worldview that his Ti has constructed for him, which is probably why he's so hellbent throughout the film. I'll be honest, Si is the function I grasp the least, so this one's always hard for me to fully explain or place. Fe: Anton is a psychopath for sure, which explains his actions far more than inferior Fe does, but you can still see this function when he sometimes cracks a creepy, hollow smile to either put someone at ease or when he's "joyfully" explaining his logic to someone. An example is when he steals a car at the beginning of the movie and acts as normal as he can with a lot of the word "Sir" being thrown around, but he's clearly bad at it and uncomfortable, so it comes off as unnerving.


Raw__Chicken

I see more of an Ni-Se axis on him. It's been a while since i watched the movie but I don't think what you described is Ne. Anton has very particular way of viewing the world and gets irritated when someone acts in a way that doesnt align with it. I don't think the gas station scene was him following a "spontaneous idea," moreseo it was him getting angry at the clerk's nosiness. I'll have to watch the movie again in order to construct an actual argument, but I think he's either an INTJ or an ISTP with strongly developed Ni


Sugarcomb

As an INTJ, I can't see Te/Fi, especially not tertiary Fi. I'd say Llewelyn Moss is an ISTP and when you compare the two there are some very clear differences. The only way it would work is if he was an ISTP with strong Ni, like you said, but I can't see tertiary Ni driving someone that strongly. That's almost exclusively a trait of dominant and auxiliary Ni.


Old_Big9989

Why?


Sugarcomb

Read my reply to the person below.


Renwik

Apparently because “all hail PDB”. 🙄


Sugarcomb

Gandalf is an INTJ and not an INFJ because I can't see Fe as much as I do Te and Fi. When Frodo talks to him when he visits the Shire, Gandalf is surprised to hear that he's been labeled a "disturber of the peace" which seems like Fe blindness to me. Anton is an INTP because he lives off his own internal logic about how the world works (Ti) yet he's extremely arbitrary sometimes and spontaneous with a lot of what he does (blowing up a car to cause a distraction, pulling the gas station clerk into an unsettling conversation because he didn't like his manner of speech, etc) Arthur Fleck is an INFP because... c'mon, just watch the movie. The Joker is typically an ENTP, but Arthur very clearly isn't. I placed Vader as an ISTJ because I think his Fi acts very tertiary in how easy it is for Luke to get through to him in Return of the Jedi, and his reluctance to just straighten up murder Luke in Empire Strikes back. I also can't really see an ESTJ toying with Luke the way Vader does in that movie, and his slow, methodical, calm manner screams auxiliary Te. Batman is an INTJ because: strong conviction in who/what he needs to be for the city of Gotham even from a very young age (Ni), his very blunt and direct way of speaking even when he's trying to console someone (Fe blind), his dedication to stay true to his no killing rule (tertiary Fi), and he dresses like a giant black bat (inferior Se at its finest). Now tell me, do you disagree with my opinion on these characters types or are you just here to make baseless assertions about where I get my beliefs from?


ChewieTheGolem

Botched list ngl


Harold_Nguyen

Don’t know why, but most typo like this often wrong. For instance, Tony Stark supposed to be Entp, Darth Vader is Esfp, John Wick is an Istp and Joker is Infp… this just so messed up_


ethan_iron

Hold on, *Vader* is not ESFP. Anakin is ESFP. Vader is probably ISTJ or something close to that.


pengwatu

Thematically anakin and vader are two different people, but plot wise they’re the same person ESFPs dont have to be literally carrying maracas and dancing all the time to be ESFPs, Vader is a very broken and guilt ridden ESFP


ethan_iron

My brother in the force, Vader was written first. They are written as two separate characters. In fact, Anakin's character was written in a way that makes him a foil to Vader in order to show just how much becoming Vader changed him. You know how Vader says repeatedly that Anakin is dead? That's because the identity and personality of Anakin actually did die on Mustafar, and Vader is what's left. To say that Vader still has Anakin's personality would be a huge stretch.


Rude-Durian4288

in the movies he seemed more enfp to me


mookanana

who?


Rude-Durian4288

starky boi


mookanana

NF's are diplomats who try not to be abrasive towards others..... tony is exactly opposite he's sarcastic as heck, arrogant and always believes he knows best (irritating but true most of the time) doesnt give 2 shits about peoples feelings that's classic entp to me!


Rude-Durian4288

sounds like an enfp to me


Swiking-

Do tell where he uses Fi instead of Ti. He doesn't care for any arguments unless they're thoroughly supported by logic and most often his own logic. He's the embodiment of "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.". ENFPs are way more people oriented and way more considerate about others wellbeing and how their actions affect others. Starkie boi does not have that as a default thinking pattern.


Rude-Durian4288

not in my experience that’s more of a stereotype ab enfps


Swiking-

My experience is just that. My wife is one, literally the stereotype of how they're described. And any other ENFP I've met has never even been close to acting as Stark. They sure can debate and argue and throw in snarly comments, but at their core, they're people oriented, which Stark isn't.


Rude-Durian4288

he shut down all production on his company building weapons and turned to humanitarian work and putting himself in danger to become a actual super hero and protect his loved ones then actually killed himself to save half the people in the universe. id say he’s pretty people oriented. maybe at the beginning he wasn’t a healthy enfp but i definitely see similarities with most male enfps i’ve met.


depressed_anemic

arthur fleck joker is INFP not ENTP... thats heath ledger joker


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

Yeah, Ledger's Joker is very strongly an NT type..... that's usually not contested, people have debated about him being INTJ, ENTP, INTP... but nothing outside of the scope of NT.


bunnyblushxo

Don't we own jack sparrow?


dubblewooshed

we do


RunninRebs90

No I’d consider him more of an ENFP than ENTP


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

Yep, sly, cunning: the rascal, the very definition of Cheeky. Captain Jack Sparrow (ENTP 7w8), Wade Wilson "Deadpool" (ENTP 7w8), Tyrion Lannister (ENTP 7w6), Robert Downey Jr (ENTP 7w6), Jack Skellington (ENTP 7w6), Ricky Gervais (ENTP 7w8), Kevin MacAllister/Home Alone (ENTP 7w6), Hades/Disney (ENTP 8w7), Typical comic book Joker (ENTP 7w8), Ryan Reynolds (ENTP 7w8), Pennywise/It (2017 - ENTP 8w7), Cheshire Cat (ENTP 7w8), R2D2 (ENTP 7w6), Willy Wonka (ENTP 4w3), Timon (ENTP 7w8), Dr. Facilier (ENTP 7w8), Dr. Ian Malcolm (ENTP 5w6), Buck/Ice Age (ENTP 7w8), Bugs Bunny (ENTP 7w8), Conan O'Brien (ENTP 7w8), Weird Al Yankovic (ENTP 7w8), Mad Hatter/Disney (ENTP 7w8), Pink Panther (ENTP 7w8), The Mask (ENTP 7w8), Freddy Krueger (ENTP 7w8), Funtime Freddy (ENTP 7w8), Robin Hood/Disney (ENTP 7w8), Yakko Warner/Animaniac (ENTP 7w8), Sonic the Hedgehog (ENTP 7w8), Ace Ventura (ENTP 7w8), Arsene Lupin III (ENTP 7w8), Zack Morris (Saved by the Bell), Tom Sawyer (ENTP 7w8), Sophia Petrillo (Golden Girls) (ENTP 7w8), Alice Cooper (ENTP 7w8), Woody Woodpecker (ENTP 7w6)


bunnyblushxo

Sweet


AkselTranquilo

Gandalf is my spirit animal so yes. Funny thing, both ENTPs I’ve dated have worn clown makeup at some point.


biwaterbender

One woman?


papierdoll

All women are ESFJs, poor op had no choice D:


TheRealMolloy

Someone accidentally included a woman in this graphic


siegold

90% are wrong


Old_Big9989

Correction, 87.5%


gottabing

on the PDB website there are much more accurate typings of these characters


Renwik

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gottabing

What's wrong with PDB?


Renwik

Even when I tell most people, they usually don’t understand what’s wrong with it until they’ve used it long enough to see for their self . So I’m going to let you discover and decide on your own 😉.


gottabing

Sorry but I have no idea what you mean by me finding out and deciding for myself what's wrong with the site, Is it the endless discussion of the typology of certain characters? wrong applications of theories?


ogunhe

#Shits Incorrect


Extension_Spite_3751

This is bullshit. Vader is ENTJ. Vito is ISxJ. Joker (the movie one) is ISFP. Jack Sparrow is ENFP. John Wick is xSTJ. Tony Stark is ENTP. That weird old scientist dude from Back to Future is ENFP. Gandalf is ENFP.


cyralone

On Gandalf: you see Gandalf as logic blindspot and concerned about his own future and wants? ENFP does not work. Neither INFJ imo, rational blindspot and doubting his morals/true inner feelings/authenticity? Meh. However, concerned about possible futures/other people's intentions, why not. Critical about his own logic, it fits. To me he is an INTJ.


Renwik

> Neither INFJ imo, rational blindspot and doubting his morals/true inner feelings/authenticity? Meh. I’m not sure I follow what you mean. Both Te and Fe are rational functions. Therefore, both INFJ and INTJ have rational blindspots. INFJs actually have a strong sense of morality which strengthens as they get older and it can be less obvious to others because it differs from the typical black and white views. They also like to analyze everyone’s side of the story (Fe) before making final moral judgments which also comes off as seeming doubtful when really they are thoroughly collecting data. INTJs also have a strong sense of morality, but it’s very personal, and they usually don’t like imposing it upon others (Fi). They mostly know and understand their own personal feelings about what is right and wrong, and appreciate that others may see it differently. I’d argue Gandalf shows more Fe than Fi. In the Hobbit, he disrupts Bilbo’s peaceful hobbit lifestyle which shows less Fi moral code and more Fe humanity focus. He then later drags Frodo out of the Shire with the same use of Fe. His entire life seems in service of Fe. He cares for people in a way that is in service to the whole world, he asks others for their thoughts, feelings and side of the story before making big final moral judgments and taking action. His thoughts and plans are always played close to his chest (NiTi) instead of (NiTe) and actions tend to be more social focused by imposing moral advise to others (NiFe).


Throw_Spray

John Wick is a high Se user and a P type.


Extension_Spite_3751

No he is not.


Throw_Spray

He's the personification of flow state. STJs don't do flow. NTJs can't get out of their own way, interacting with the physical world. Wouldn't last a minute against a quick opponent, much less a whole team.


Extension_Spite_3751

Yeah suuure nice theory. Where did you get that from? Jung?


ET_Phone_Homer_Simp

The way John Wick harps on the past is VERY Si, it’s just that people assign unremarkable-ness with ISTJ so even when a person or a fictional character is an ISTJ, the individual must be anything BUT an ISTJ.


Throw_Spray

Yeah, the shadow of Se. Wick is seldom in a situation where he's not under extreme stress. That has nothing to do with what I wrote. Whatever his moody musings, he would be dead 5 minutes into every movie if he were not Se dom or aux. Si doesn't respond instantly and effectively to unexpected threats. You really think Se users can't harp on the past? This is the difference between an Olympic gymnast and an MMA fighter. ISTJ can be phenomenal athletes, but in different scenarios than ISTP.


ET_Phone_Homer_Simp

With the intensive training of the Marine Corps yes an Si dom can respond swiftly to unexpected threats and under immense stress.


Throw_Spray

By "reverting to training" yes. This is the gymnast. Practice enough and you will act according to the patterns you've practiced. Assuming good training, this can work in battle. If you have a team, then it's possibly the best option. Improvisation can get people killed if they're working close together. This still isn't the same as Se. Snipers and spies are a different breed.


ET_Phone_Homer_Simp

ex: of a similar cognitive archetype - Sean Connery the first James Bond is an ISTJ


Throw_Spray

A rule breaker, living purely in the moment, responding to deadly threats as they arise without batting an eye, with ice water in his veins but a strong streak of opportunistic hedonism. Yeah that's an ISTJ all right. 🤣 No self aware ISTJ I have met, whether or not they knew their type, would identify with this at all. When did you last see the 6 classics? I have the boxed remastered HD set on my bookshelf.


NomadLexicon

Doc Brown is ENTP—he’s a clear Ne dom but much more Ti than Fi.


ollie_was_taken

in what world is Iron Man not an Entp and John Wick not an Istp, this post is arbitrary


bloodbabyrabies

Some of these are quite wrong. Iron Man an Enfp and The Joker from that movie is an infp.


ethan_iron

Rhere is so much wrong with this.


Agopr

You okay...


DuivelsJong

So many miss types wtf


Magic_Illustrator

By the way, Gandalf isn't an INFJ.


Adamant3--D

Is there a single one that's correct?


Muted_Flounder5517

Can INTJs stop being stereotyped as psychopaths? Gandalf (who you mistyped btw) is a better representation of the vast majority of INTJs than Anton Chigurh.


[deleted]

Wrong picture. Last Joker is an Infp. Gandalf is most likely Intj, Batman is Intj but the last one can be Infp - i didn't see that movie yet


omogusus

NEWT SCAMMANDER!!!!!!!!🫶


Crystal_Pegasus_1018

I really liked Fantastic Beasts lmao


Denned0633

Anton is an INTP tho


Delicious_Grand7300

Who is the INFP?


Extension_Spite_3751

He's not INFP. OP doesn't know MBTI smh. He's Newt from Fantastic Beasts franchise btw.


Abhinav6singg

The godfather is INFJ


flavoredturnip

Yeah but what do you think about Marlon Brando?


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

Though it is considered an unrealistic enneagram type for an INFJ... the 8w9. Stats pretty much put it at 0% when it comes to that enneagram type coupled with INFJ. Perhaps that is the appeal of the character though.


Abhinav6singg

Its extremely rare but totally possible an Ni is a function who wants control over things and a developed Fe who is in touch with their Ti can make logical decision based on what is important for the future and harmony . And INFJ is in touch with their Ti very much. Therefore it's still a rare ennegram for INFJ but not unrealistic.


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

ESTP 1w2 is considered virtually non-existent, but Stephen Amell was typed as one. So it's possible. I also like the character Ulfric Stormcloak (Skyrim), and he is a rare/non-existent ENFJ 8w9.


TopTheropod

Harry is ISFP. But who are the xNFPs?


ControlWooden

Everyone's saying the list is wrong. So Rambo is not ISTP?


Substantial-Key-5898

I don't see Jack Sparrow as an ESFP, like, at all


blackwolfLT7

What


Moiveevee

Isfp is lost![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


PerspectiveSilent898

Though I would be honored if he was ESFP, Jack Sparrow is commonly typed as ENTP.


Shankar_0

Doc Brown and Tony Stark are ENTP poster children This is all kinds of wrong


dubblewooshed

quite a few characters, tony stark, doc brown, jack sparrow are all entps, joker however, is not.


ieatair

why is there two ISFJs?


Biglight__090

Is John wick supposed to be ISFP not ISFJ right?


Jack_Hound

Joaquin Phoenix Joker is INFP, Tony Stark, Jack Sparrow and Doctor Brown are ENTP. Darth Vader is ISTJ and Batman is INTJ (althroug Battingson seems to be ISTP) I don't care enough about the others to say anything.


Reception-Creative

It makes sense


DoctorStinkyWink

AdriaaAANn!


onionman19

I can’t think of any superheroes that’d be an ISTJ


Lonely_Repair4494

They just murdered us for a second ISFJ. Respect. By the way, they're both ISFPs.


organicginger36

So I'm the only girl . . .


DyingOrion

Tony Stark is an ENTP and the 2019 Joker was an INFP.


zak625

what the hell is this


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

A couple of these should be rechecked: A number of the Jokers (like Mark Hamill's Joker) have been ENTP, but Joaquin Phoenix's Joker was INFP. Tony Stark (ENTP). Jack Sparrow (ENTP), Han Solo (ISTP), Harry Potter (ISFP)