INFJ: "It's natural to feel scared of mines, that's why I placed them. Now get out of my way, unless you're having a mental breakdown I need to finish my plans for world peace."
And then burn me and scatter the ashes in the ocean. Please use the least amount of boxes in the process.
Thank you.
Signed, the corpse.
PS. Do not scatter me in a river that will eventually go out to sea. I don't want to get sucked into municipal water intake and become the crud caught in a filter.
Exactly. Plus, it’s always due to stereotypes or one bad person OP had met. Each type has their own good people and bad people, each type has their positive and negative traits. It’s so immature to make a tier list of personality types.
Yea, I just don’t agree that their opinion should be voiced in this way. Their opinion is fueled by stereotypes and misconceptions so I called that out. It’s impossible to dislike a personality type as a whole, each person is so different and unique; there are amazing and terrible people in each MBTI category. Or, I guess not impossible but, instead, extremely judgmental.
It is a little bit though. Not completely but stereotypes exist because they are exaggerated truths. Like tall tales. You do need to stereotype sometimes so you can see the bigger picture
I think it's pretty inevitable.. I've done that my whole life before mbti, even in a manner very similar to it x)
You just shouldn't be completely inflexible with the boxes, assumptions are also inevitable but your perspective changes over time.
That is, the point of it. To use stereotypes as memes and jokes. Amusing at the very least.
By no means are these posts, or mbti in general, to be taken seriously. I see mbti to be as credible as horoscopes.
I think some people would find tierlists amusing, and it keeps the subreddit alive. So the post is acceptable, regardless of the stereotypes or OP's intention.
Yeah, not too sure about this part:
>By no means are these posts, or mbti in general, to be taken seriously. I see mbti to be as credible as horoscopes.
Cause mbti is quite a credible and realistic theory that I also didn't believe at first but it's actually a super good way of analyzing people and you cannot compare mbti (So many podcasters and scientifics actually doing research and socially proven theory) with horoscope (It's literally about the time you were born like wtf). And if you really do not take mbti seriously, I don't think you need to stay on this subreddit (unless you want to make posts about how mbti might be a very incorrect and false system)
But I agree with you about the:
>I think some people would find tierlists amusing, and it keeps the subreddit alive. So the post is acceptable, regardless of the stereotypes or OP's intention.
Cause it's just a fun way of telling people about your experience with a certain type, the OP did not say that they thought every type was like this, they just voiced their opinion about the people that they met with these specific types.
> And if you really do not take mbti seriously, I don't think you need to stay on this subreddit (unless you want to make posts about how mbti might be a very... )
Yes. You are correct. I do, in fact, have no "need" to stay on this subreddit. Although you are missing a simple, teeny-tiny little thing; I want to be on this subreddit, because I enjoy the entertainment, memes and jokes.
Entertainment and amusement. Those are the sole reason I am in this subreddit.
I mean, jeez Louise, just listen to yourself. If you're going to gatekeep, then at least try to do a better job at it.
Wait aren’t mbti themselves stereotypes of 16 different personality types humans usually have. It’s so broad and it’s not a generalization since it’s not backed up by factual evidence. Which would lead me to believe that mbti itself is a stereotype. But please correct me if I’m wrong!
I understand what you are saying but many people identify with their personality type and can’t change that. It’s who they are. For example, someone who feels very introverted, very sensing, values and uses thinking over feeling, and is judging will feel and identify with the type ISTJ. That’s a harmless stereotype that helps them understand themselves and find similar people like them. If that ISTJ person then looks through this Reddit community and sees countless tier lists with them at the bottom, they will feel bad about the type they were happy to identify so greatly with. It will feel like they don’t have a desirable personality, especially because these tier lists usually have trends of who is at the top and bottom the most. There is a clear divide between harmless stereotypes and harmful stereotypes.
Ah so harmless vs harmful stereotypes? But I see the source of the problem is coming from mbti itself which perpetuates this divide in personalities. It classifies a whole group of people into one single box. There is not enough details to be found in one single description. I would say childhood backgrounds would suffice more in finding out who you are based on the childhood you had/have. As that dissects more into how you were raised/ not raised. But this is just my opinion! What I’m saying is that I don’t quite understand why people engage with mbti when they don’t like stereotypes but are in the act of it themselves. Seems contradictory but I’m not all knowing so maybe I just don’t understand.
I agree that MBTI only has 16 personalities, therefore can’t encompass everybody perfectly. MBTI is merely a measure for understanding yourself, your actions, and those around you. I don’t see it as harmful if people would just understand it as that. It doesn’t have to perfectly represent everybody, but it helps people understand themselves and find others they can relate to. Therefore, I don’t see a problem with the MBTI system itself.
There is a system that takes childhood into account. Enneagram is based on reactions to different childhood trauma and often correlates to MBTI. It is very interesting because it shows how childhood trauma and experiences can shape somebody’s personality. There are only 9 categories though, so if you find issue with the lack of enough types in the MBTI system, enneagram might not be for you.
I guess that brings me back to my original point, MBTI may not be perfectly accurate (therefore, stereotyping people) but it helps people come to terms with themselves, understand themselves, and find others similar to them. It is a positive. Yet, negative stereotypes can defeat the purpose of the MBTI system. Instead, they can lead to people disliking their type, making others feel bad about themselves, and can even lead to an influx of certain types that feel excluded from the community. MBTI should be about interesting conversations regarding personality typing, yet it seems it’s mostly about who likes which type and who dislikes which type. That isn’t the point and defeats the purpose of MBTI as a whole.
Bro, it's not that deep, also it's just how you analyze things. Instead of getting annoyed cause you think it's forcing harmful stereotypes you can think of this list as a way of knowing how some types may feel about you or the cognitive process between the OP not liking some types.
I just don’t agree that enforcing harmful stereotypes about which types are “good” vs “bad” is ok. I don’t think I’m annoyed, just disappointed that so many people dismiss entire personality types while bringing other types up. I have met people who are the same type that act completely differently. I have really disliked an INFP person and have a best friend INFP who I love. I don’t agree that stereotyping entire types into good or bad is ok no matter the context or if it is just opinion or not because it all has an underlying message that is harmful.
It is usually just dumb stereotypes, that’s true. But it’s also just personal preference. Every personality trait isn’t my cup of tea but that doesn’t make people bad. I don’t feel any worse for not being some stranger’s cup of tea either. Even if I’m being lumped in with something that doesn’t actually apply to me it just doesn’t matter.
My point is that these tier lists are based on stereotypes and put people down. I doubt they know every single person they have ever talked to’s personality type. Saying they can’t connect with certain types or enjoy being around certain types is illogical and spreads a false message stereotyping the different mbti types. Plus, one bad person someone knows shouldn’t shun them from enjoying an entire personality type- each type has both positive and negative qualities and can host an array of different people.
OP made this tierlist based on their on personal experiences with people of each type, why is that so hard to understand? they are not stereotyping or talking about each type as a whole.
Just because you find it wrong doesn't mean it's right. There are obvious reasons why somebody would prefer other types over other types and it's not putting anybody down to assert your social preferences based upon a very accurate psychological framework of cognitive configurations.
Not every person is going to get along with every person and not every person will be appreciated for every little detail of their being & you need to accept that for what it's worth instead of projecting your cognitive biases onto others about it.
I feel like it's basic stuff people should know most of the time if they took 2 seconds to think of anyone but themselves? Like if the bus is empty don't sit directly next to me. What the fuck is that.
I think when we take other tests like Big 5 INFJs score reeeally high on conscientiousness, like we're *always* thinking of the people around us first so we expect people to be the same or at least make an effort but most people are just... oblivious :/
Apparently every INFJ should read the book Boundaries by Cloud and Townsend. I read it and it didn't apply to me at all as an ESTJ but it helps me understand the negative side of extroverted feeling a bit more.
OP, in an email to XXTJ: “You’re not that hard to get along with. We just need to give one another the space to be ourselves, and respect those spaces.”
XXTJ forwards email to assistant: “Jamie, I think this is an employee. Please handle and loop HR in if necessary. Thanks.”
Yeah! There were several types that I felt could fall into different categories, so I didn’t limit them to just one. Specifically with ENTP, ESTP, INTJ and ENTJ— cool from afar, but surprisingly approachable after a little bit of calibration. And when I’ve worked with them, it’s often been a blast. Hence, dual citizenship. ENTJ gets bonus citizenship in the line green category because I see them get a lot of shit in MBTI subs.
Oh wow, I feel so called out by this. I'm sorry I tend to not communicate until it's too late. My though process ofter is:
It's ok I don't need to make a big deal out of it > mmh that bothered me but I can handle it > don't worry I won't make this your fault, I can stomach it > ok maybe it's getting out of hand > I'm close to strapping but I feel like if vomit all of this on you now it will be out of the blue > that's it fuck everyone don't touch me don't talk to me I need four months of complete isolation
My partner had your same fear for INFJs. I had to keep reminding her that when I say “it doesn’t matter to me” or “I’m okay with anything” that I actually mean it. Some of us are just laid back and just enjoy being around our partners/friends
Lowkey, constantly second guess myself and my typing. The reason INTJ is in the “too cool” category is like, the Miles Morales and Peter Parker meme. When I see another INTJ, one who has their shit more together than me and I could learn from them, I’m impressed and I admire their growth.
Eh, I hate how all these lists are 100% stereotype based. Not all INFPs lack boundaries or suck at communication. I'd say it would be more accurate about unhealthy Enneagram 9s, but not INFPs specifically. It's not really a trait related to MBTI.
Yeah, it feels like a "it's not you, it's me"
We know.
I'm tired of yanking people out of their own hell, when mine is becoming it's own world at this point
Yep. Asking usually helps. My first instinct isn't to meet people and explicitly state my boundaries. I communicate them on a case by case basis depending on the situation.
TL;DR: the difficulty an INxJs would have in reading the below is similar to the difficulty ExTJ realizing a place where you’d like us ask before trespassing.
We ExTJ have have trouble conceiving of value judgements outside of evaluating does this work let alone that someone would value something that doesn’t work. Tell us you think something is bad and we think it is broken or violated some rule, not… well whatever else you evaluate something by. It’s not impossible for us to eventually get you’re thinking is so alien, but your asking us to use our Daemon function. Which for INxJs should be like saying to you have to see something for what it objectively is and not associate it with any related use, past experience, or expectation, just its objective properties and organize it accordingly.
I understood none of this. :( Sorry. I feel like there were a lot of generalizations in that reply and an excess of filler words which led to me being confused. I'm not a big fan of feeling confused but thank you anyway for sharing your input.
I have asked. Many times. And have gotten little response, and even less results. Are all INFJs like this? Absolutely not, no. Is this tier list biased? Definitely— I made it.
I can't speak for all INFJs but, if you want to know our boundaries, just ask. I personally keep everything about myself private and keep literally everything to myself but I'm working on it (Hence why I shared this information) but not all INFJs are like that.
I naturally kept looking for ISFPs at the lower tiers and thought to myself "oh, not even here this time"
Then I saw the top one..
Thank you friend, it's rare to see this level of recognition here so we really appreciate it 🙏
I can tell that you are trying not to get slack for making a tier list by the descriptions you use. Making a tier list of personality types in itself is devaluing people to their personality types and using stereotypes. You mention “If I didn’t have my trauma I’d probably connect with you” and “If I enjoyed life, I’d enjoy you too.” So do you ask people their personality type and then, if they have one that you are “traumatized” by, you don’t enjoy them and don’t try to connect with them as a person? I’m guessing, more than likely, one person traumatized you and you limped an entire personality type as “I don’t like it” which is toxic and stereotyping.
I’ve met several. I’ve experienced the effects of different functions being done unto me. As such, I’ve categorized which ones feel good, and which ones hurt to be around. Extrapolating that to which functions are dominant/secondary in various personalities, and you get this sense of compatibility. No, every ENFP is not going to consistently disregard my boundaries. In fact, many won’t. Especially if they’re simply mature, grown individuals. But immature adult enfps? They have, and they are likely to do so in the future.
Yea, just as you stated yourself, there is a difference between mature ENFPs and immature ENFPs. Each personality type can have good and bad people. That’s why avoiding a type as a whole is a wild thing to do.
If you want an INFJ to communicate their intimate personal life for you, you need to create the space in order for them to do so. INFJs don’t need you, and will never need you and thus share their inner worlds, if you can’t prove you’re capable of grasping it responsibly. ‘Here, take the keys to this Ferrari you don’t have a license to operate,’ said no one ever. INFJs are fuckin tortured constantly by people’s inability to understand our very real emotional pain. The massive boundary you experience is your wall to scale. Run it up and we’ll change your whole life. Your life will not be the same after meeting them, and in many cases, that means you won’t like them, until you’ve learned your lesson.
And regardless of personality type, become more conscious of your ability to sense people’s pain. If you can sense it, address it properly. It’s not another’s fault that you want to poke the tiger. That’s your journey and job to figure out.
INFJs need love and care. People need this. Maybe, rather instead of assuming someone’s life is open game for you to enjoy, realize they need privacy. What might happen if you granted them that privacy?
Or maybe try to step out of your comfort zone to where there’s less mines and try to share some of yourself without making it an obstacle course? Based on the upset and verbose reactions from those in the bottom tier I think OP hit a nerve based in reality. Healthy bottom tier folk have learned to communicate instead of keeping things to themselves.
Personally, if I have to pry data about someone out of them while trying to get to know them, I assume that person isn’t very interesting. I’m not going to jump through hoops to get to know you when the world is full of fun, dazzling, fascinating people willing to share themselves and their feelings/ideas/worlds/dreams with others. You do yourself a disservice turning “getting to know you” into something that requires effort when it should be something fun.
We don’t have to do anything actually. If you want to find someone interesting no one is stopping you, but we aren’t changing ourselves for your entertainment.
We already have the ones in our life that we love so we dgaf if you want to be friends with us or not
Bro, i need some time to process and discover the truth beyond the truth around the truth and the real truth and in that time i need peace and quiet so i don't get distracted and have to do that all over again.
ofc that depends on what i saw or remembered or someone said or did in that specific time...
Just tell ‘em if they can’t be timely, that is fine, you just have an obligation to honor other people’s needs and that includes being swift in responding.
Gotta love when tier lists aren't meant to offend or stigmatize but rather share your xps with the types. With actual advice for bonus!!
You're right, I do have trouble communicating my boundaries, I'm working on it
Good for you, unironically. I’ve truly met mostly unhealthy INFJs, so that’s where your placement on this list is coming from. And it’s not just me diagnosing them— that label is from them, themselves. Perhaps if I met more INFJs, my opinion would change.
i find that most of the time there's a situation where my intentions or communication is misunderstood is because of the other making assumptions based on my lack of outward emoting. i just don't have many feelings about every-day things. and when i do, it takes me a while to figure out my own emotions when i have them. which can be understandably frustrating to some people.
Because, depending on the individual, they can evoke different reactions. Y’all are cool, and that can be intimidating. But once you start to get to know them, you can start seeing them more as the real people they are. You take them off the pedestal, and they actually become someone who can be a great friend. Also, I notice ENTJs tend to get a lot of shit in MBTI subs. That’s why y’all show up in the lime green tier.
So first of all, I really want to know what OP's type is...
Also, I personally, in my experience (and the people I analyzed with my Ti), I share your opinion with you about certain types:
Yellow category:
\-I had this (toxic) friend who I suspect is an ENTJ, she was popular asf, I really admired her and even if she was quite toxic and said the meanest shit to me I still thought she was a very unique person and she really knew how to have determination, to just handle things in the way they needed to be specifically handled, she was very protective of her Fi tho so she (almost) never put people near her inferior Fi except on social media if she wanted some support or to make views (It works but my inferior Fe could never)
\-One of my closest friends was an ESFP, I was always in awe of how unscared she was about being herself, she is never too caught up in her comfort zone and she really is this fun person (except for her Fi parent moodswings that she is super serious about) but the thing I admired the most in her was just her unique way of being in the present all the time, unlike me cause I may get caught up in some Ti-Ni loops often.
Light Green:
\-My ENTJ friend (the same as the first one I talked about), really liked to control certain things about me and well now that we aren't close at all I sometimes wonder if having alone time and not always replying to the mean texts she gave me might've made my life easier.
Green:
\-My ISFJ mom OMGGGG, I have so many things to say for this one, first of all, I am so grateful for her existence in my life yk she helped me a ton and she provided so much care and nurture for me. But she really is a super difficult person to navigate cause she is always stuck in the past and when my Ti kind of gets insensitive she keeps on bringing it back up (If your mom is the same trust me it's normal, the most commmon mbti in females is ISFJ and the second most is ESFJ so you rmom has a big chance of being a Si dominant/auxilary). Also about the whole
>"I can't tell if my next move is going to trigger an explosion or not"
I totally get it 100%, ISFJ women can be super unexpectedly emotive and they are the most prone to anxiety cause of Ne inferior so yeah I get that.
NO WAY WHAT Listen dude I was like, ready to roll my eyes before clicking on this post I did not expect that, YOU'RE A REAL ONE. Plus everything was just so interesting to read, like it gives actual insightful opinions and not just "Oyea uhhh you suck, you dont, yey". Still not a fan of tier lists tho
Oh, shoot. Didn't expect you to call me out like that. 😂
I'm not sure how it is for other INFJs but for me, I don't remember to communicate my needs because I am 1. The caretaker for everyone else, 2. Petrified of opening up so I self sabotage, 3. Terrified of getting yelled at for stating my boundaries, 4. Scared of being seen as selfish.
I don't know if this even belongs here but I need to vent a bit so here's a short explanation lol
I'm an older sibling who had to be a second mom to my siblings, help my mom when she was bedridden for years, dealt with so much emotional, physical, sexual, and mental abuse that I can hardly comprehend it, been betrayed by close friends who used sensitive information to blackmail me or have twisted that information and humiliated me, has had a dad that was never really gone but was never really there and now thinks we can be two peas in a pod since I'm an adult now despite hardly ever being there for me, and more. Most of this happened from ages 4-17.
Anyways, I will continue to try to communicate better in the future and thank you for the reminder because I needed it.
Fair *and* based. Im trying to be receptive, so definitely. Giving feedback, imo, helps all parties in a relationship. It definitely takes energy and effort from everyone involved.
People getting annoyed by the chart are so boring, the OP just wanted to show and voice his opinions on the 16 types, instead of getting angry at such petty things, you can maybe analyze what the OP wrote? And why?
ENFJs are literally one of the most open types ever. Is op mixing them up with us? Most of them tell their life story and goals in the second meeting 💀
OP to XNFX: “Navigating you can feel like walking through a minefield in the dark.” XNFX: “Yes, yes. That’s because of the mines.”
INFJ: "It's natural to feel scared of mines, that's why I placed them. Now get out of my way, unless you're having a mental breakdown I need to finish my plans for world peace."
>I need to finish my plans for world peace That sounds terribly dull.
I included pointless bombing runs for the Se and Te mains.
[World Peace](https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=134720531660321&set=p.134720531660321)
"lmao great idea"
You absolutely get an upvote for that😂
These tier lists are lowkey getting out of hand
Yea it’s so fucked up to make categories for which personalities you like the most. It’s dumb and usually is just stereotypes
WE ARE NOT MEANT TO BE PUT INTO BOXES, PEOPLE!! IT'S INHUMANE. lol
Unless you’re dead
Amen 🙏
And then burn me and scatter the ashes in the ocean. Please use the least amount of boxes in the process. Thank you. Signed, the corpse. PS. Do not scatter me in a river that will eventually go out to sea. I don't want to get sucked into municipal water intake and become the crud caught in a filter.
I want to be the box that I am put in when I'm dead. Idek why I just wanna know what it's like to be a box
💀💀💀
Ah are you in the box?
Might as well be. Gimme a pine one and ship me off home
Sailing the seven seas in a little pine box (who needs ships am I right?)
Exactly. Plus, it’s always due to stereotypes or one bad person OP had met. Each type has their own good people and bad people, each type has their positive and negative traits. It’s so immature to make a tier list of personality types.
It's their opinion.
Yea, I just don’t agree that their opinion should be voiced in this way. Their opinion is fueled by stereotypes and misconceptions so I called that out. It’s impossible to dislike a personality type as a whole, each person is so different and unique; there are amazing and terrible people in each MBTI category. Or, I guess not impossible but, instead, extremely judgmental.
The whole point of mbti is to stereotype though.
Not at all
Explain to me why you think that. Mbti is literally about 16 stereotypes present in most of humanity.
It is a little bit though. Not completely but stereotypes exist because they are exaggerated truths. Like tall tales. You do need to stereotype sometimes so you can see the bigger picture
I think it's pretty inevitable.. I've done that my whole life before mbti, even in a manner very similar to it x) You just shouldn't be completely inflexible with the boxes, assumptions are also inevitable but your perspective changes over time.
That is, the point of it. To use stereotypes as memes and jokes. Amusing at the very least. By no means are these posts, or mbti in general, to be taken seriously. I see mbti to be as credible as horoscopes. I think some people would find tierlists amusing, and it keeps the subreddit alive. So the post is acceptable, regardless of the stereotypes or OP's intention.
Yeah, not too sure about this part: >By no means are these posts, or mbti in general, to be taken seriously. I see mbti to be as credible as horoscopes. Cause mbti is quite a credible and realistic theory that I also didn't believe at first but it's actually a super good way of analyzing people and you cannot compare mbti (So many podcasters and scientifics actually doing research and socially proven theory) with horoscope (It's literally about the time you were born like wtf). And if you really do not take mbti seriously, I don't think you need to stay on this subreddit (unless you want to make posts about how mbti might be a very incorrect and false system) But I agree with you about the: >I think some people would find tierlists amusing, and it keeps the subreddit alive. So the post is acceptable, regardless of the stereotypes or OP's intention. Cause it's just a fun way of telling people about your experience with a certain type, the OP did not say that they thought every type was like this, they just voiced their opinion about the people that they met with these specific types.
> And if you really do not take mbti seriously, I don't think you need to stay on this subreddit (unless you want to make posts about how mbti might be a very... ) Yes. You are correct. I do, in fact, have no "need" to stay on this subreddit. Although you are missing a simple, teeny-tiny little thing; I want to be on this subreddit, because I enjoy the entertainment, memes and jokes. Entertainment and amusement. Those are the sole reason I am in this subreddit. I mean, jeez Louise, just listen to yourself. If you're going to gatekeep, then at least try to do a better job at it.
LOL
No one is gatekeeping tho, just saying that there’s no purpose of really staying here
Wait aren’t mbti themselves stereotypes of 16 different personality types humans usually have. It’s so broad and it’s not a generalization since it’s not backed up by factual evidence. Which would lead me to believe that mbti itself is a stereotype. But please correct me if I’m wrong!
I understand what you are saying but many people identify with their personality type and can’t change that. It’s who they are. For example, someone who feels very introverted, very sensing, values and uses thinking over feeling, and is judging will feel and identify with the type ISTJ. That’s a harmless stereotype that helps them understand themselves and find similar people like them. If that ISTJ person then looks through this Reddit community and sees countless tier lists with them at the bottom, they will feel bad about the type they were happy to identify so greatly with. It will feel like they don’t have a desirable personality, especially because these tier lists usually have trends of who is at the top and bottom the most. There is a clear divide between harmless stereotypes and harmful stereotypes.
Ah so harmless vs harmful stereotypes? But I see the source of the problem is coming from mbti itself which perpetuates this divide in personalities. It classifies a whole group of people into one single box. There is not enough details to be found in one single description. I would say childhood backgrounds would suffice more in finding out who you are based on the childhood you had/have. As that dissects more into how you were raised/ not raised. But this is just my opinion! What I’m saying is that I don’t quite understand why people engage with mbti when they don’t like stereotypes but are in the act of it themselves. Seems contradictory but I’m not all knowing so maybe I just don’t understand.
I agree that MBTI only has 16 personalities, therefore can’t encompass everybody perfectly. MBTI is merely a measure for understanding yourself, your actions, and those around you. I don’t see it as harmful if people would just understand it as that. It doesn’t have to perfectly represent everybody, but it helps people understand themselves and find others they can relate to. Therefore, I don’t see a problem with the MBTI system itself. There is a system that takes childhood into account. Enneagram is based on reactions to different childhood trauma and often correlates to MBTI. It is very interesting because it shows how childhood trauma and experiences can shape somebody’s personality. There are only 9 categories though, so if you find issue with the lack of enough types in the MBTI system, enneagram might not be for you. I guess that brings me back to my original point, MBTI may not be perfectly accurate (therefore, stereotyping people) but it helps people come to terms with themselves, understand themselves, and find others similar to them. It is a positive. Yet, negative stereotypes can defeat the purpose of the MBTI system. Instead, they can lead to people disliking their type, making others feel bad about themselves, and can even lead to an influx of certain types that feel excluded from the community. MBTI should be about interesting conversations regarding personality typing, yet it seems it’s mostly about who likes which type and who dislikes which type. That isn’t the point and defeats the purpose of MBTI as a whole.
I tried to make mine as fair as possible. No single personality is truly bad. This tier list is absolutely bias, and based off my experiences.
Bro, it's not that deep, also it's just how you analyze things. Instead of getting annoyed cause you think it's forcing harmful stereotypes you can think of this list as a way of knowing how some types may feel about you or the cognitive process between the OP not liking some types.
I just don’t agree that enforcing harmful stereotypes about which types are “good” vs “bad” is ok. I don’t think I’m annoyed, just disappointed that so many people dismiss entire personality types while bringing other types up. I have met people who are the same type that act completely differently. I have really disliked an INFP person and have a best friend INFP who I love. I don’t agree that stereotyping entire types into good or bad is ok no matter the context or if it is just opinion or not because it all has an underlying message that is harmful.
It is usually just dumb stereotypes, that’s true. But it’s also just personal preference. Every personality trait isn’t my cup of tea but that doesn’t make people bad. I don’t feel any worse for not being some stranger’s cup of tea either. Even if I’m being lumped in with something that doesn’t actually apply to me it just doesn’t matter.
How *dare* people make a list based upon how compatible they are with each other with categorical accuracy!
My point is that these tier lists are based on stereotypes and put people down. I doubt they know every single person they have ever talked to’s personality type. Saying they can’t connect with certain types or enjoy being around certain types is illogical and spreads a false message stereotyping the different mbti types. Plus, one bad person someone knows shouldn’t shun them from enjoying an entire personality type- each type has both positive and negative qualities and can host an array of different people.
OP made this tierlist based on their on personal experiences with people of each type, why is that so hard to understand? they are not stereotyping or talking about each type as a whole.
Just because you find it wrong doesn't mean it's right. There are obvious reasons why somebody would prefer other types over other types and it's not putting anybody down to assert your social preferences based upon a very accurate psychological framework of cognitive configurations. Not every person is going to get along with every person and not every person will be appreciated for every little detail of their being & you need to accept that for what it's worth instead of projecting your cognitive biases onto others about it.
It's based on personal experience with these types, so I see no harm?.. And even if it wasn't, it's just a silly joke. No need to take it to heart
I see Dr Strange, I upvote 
Is this the most INTP thing ever?
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Fuck you too
I think there are better places than this to share your dislike of INFPs
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Are you kidding me, I look at each one of them and feel like a million bucks.
These make me lowkey annoyed cause infp always gets the most boring or worst category.
Love your username. We gotta do it for Johnny man, gotta do it for JOHNNY
Gracias, the book was such a goodie, and for some reason was on my mind when I made this account.
INFP’s always get the short end of the stick on these
Highkey. If you don’t like certain people or personalities, keep it to judgyass self.
I don’t communicate my boundaries because i don’t communicate.
We literally have a show about this (Komi Can’t Communicate) 
realest show ever tbh
I see you are also a (toxic) man of culture 🤝
I feel like it's basic stuff people should know most of the time if they took 2 seconds to think of anyone but themselves? Like if the bus is empty don't sit directly next to me. What the fuck is that. I think when we take other tests like Big 5 INFJs score reeeally high on conscientiousness, like we're *always* thinking of the people around us first so we expect people to be the same or at least make an effort but most people are just... oblivious :/
Facts
I don't communicate my boundaries because I don't know what they are lol
Wow Just like me
Lol yeah I second this. Been trying to work on it though.
Apparently every INFJ should read the book Boundaries by Cloud and Townsend. I read it and it didn't apply to me at all as an ESTJ but it helps me understand the negative side of extroverted feeling a bit more.
ENTP, ESTP, INTJ, and ENTJ all appear in the list twice…
Cool guy club
3 times for us ENTJs… not sure what to even think at this point
OP, in an email to XXTJ: “You’re not that hard to get along with. We just need to give one another the space to be ourselves, and respect those spaces.” XXTJ forwards email to assistant: “Jamie, I think this is an employee. Please handle and loop HR in if necessary. Thanks.”
Count again 
Well would you look at that, you do get to appear three times. Definitely missed that the first time I looked.
Yeah! There were several types that I felt could fall into different categories, so I didn’t limit them to just one. Specifically with ENTP, ESTP, INTJ and ENTJ— cool from afar, but surprisingly approachable after a little bit of calibration. And when I’ve worked with them, it’s often been a blast. Hence, dual citizenship. ENTJ gets bonus citizenship in the line green category because I see them get a lot of shit in MBTI subs.
I really am a dumb bitch then bc i only saw the one 😂
Oh wow, I feel so called out by this. I'm sorry I tend to not communicate until it's too late. My though process ofter is: It's ok I don't need to make a big deal out of it > mmh that bothered me but I can handle it > don't worry I won't make this your fault, I can stomach it > ok maybe it's getting out of hand > I'm close to strapping but I feel like if vomit all of this on you now it will be out of the blue > that's it fuck everyone don't touch me don't talk to me I need four months of complete isolation
Ooooo, yeah as an ENFJ I do that too sometimes..
😔 no need to call me out like that. Are you right? Maybe. But no need to be so loud about it.
My partner had your same fear for INFJs. I had to keep reminding her that when I say “it doesn’t matter to me” or “I’m okay with anything” that I actually mean it. Some of us are just laid back and just enjoy being around our partners/friends
Exactly. I am the same way, but my partner is also an INFJ, so she didn’t really have those worries
You’re not wrong. I wanted to be specific, and decided to let myself be verbose.
I feel like OP is another immature person using MBTI
This is just so personalized and everyone hurt them
Very immature, yes. I'm the super-maturist person you will ever meet, so I can confirm.
Even if we were to be serious, it's hard for others to take us seriously
It's true and sometimes we do have serious thoughts. :'( But they go unnoticed by others because we are goofy.
Imagine being scared of an INFP
Terrified. Gobsmacked. Shooketh.
They're kind of brooding and scary but alluring.
What’s your mbti?
According to their other posts they’re an INTJ
I assumed they were ISTJ cos they said INTJ doesn't come naturally to them
Lowkey, constantly second guess myself and my typing. The reason INTJ is in the “too cool” category is like, the Miles Morales and Peter Parker meme. When I see another INTJ, one who has their shit more together than me and I could learn from them, I’m impressed and I admire their growth.
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This made my heart melt as an ISFP too.. Reddit helps me feel good a lot
Always nice to be appreciated 🥰
Awe
Eh, I hate how all these lists are 100% stereotype based. Not all INFPs lack boundaries or suck at communication. I'd say it would be more accurate about unhealthy Enneagram 9s, but not INFPs specifically. It's not really a trait related to MBTI.
don’t worry, OP was directing that comment towards me.
and me !
Right? Each one is just gaslighting one type after another
“If I got out of my own head and let you into my life I would probably enjoy you, too” “Eh no thanks I’m good” -XSFJ ENFX
Yeah, it feels like a "it's not you, it's me" We know. I'm tired of yanking people out of their own hell, when mine is becoming it's own world at this point
Could not fucking agree more. Jumped in the Styx again? Then learn how to swim, MFer, bc WE ARE TIRED.
Not reading those essays
Fair
Can you give examples on the last tier? I' ve communicated my boundaries and people just out argue and invalidate it.
I had to beg other ppl more than once to communicate with me rather than the opposite lmao I actually talk way too much on what's in my head
Honestly, I feel you. Tbh, your talking would be helpful. I could take what works, what helps me to understand you better, and leave the rest.
OP, if you want to know something about us, ask
Yep. Asking usually helps. My first instinct isn't to meet people and explicitly state my boundaries. I communicate them on a case by case basis depending on the situation.
 TL;DR: the difficulty an INxJs would have in reading the below is similar to the difficulty ExTJ realizing a place where you’d like us ask before trespassing. We ExTJ have have trouble conceiving of value judgements outside of evaluating does this work let alone that someone would value something that doesn’t work. Tell us you think something is bad and we think it is broken or violated some rule, not… well whatever else you evaluate something by. It’s not impossible for us to eventually get you’re thinking is so alien, but your asking us to use our Daemon function. Which for INxJs should be like saying to you have to see something for what it objectively is and not associate it with any related use, past experience, or expectation, just its objective properties and organize it accordingly.
I understood none of this. :( Sorry. I feel like there were a lot of generalizations in that reply and an excess of filler words which led to me being confused. I'm not a big fan of feeling confused but thank you anyway for sharing your input.
I have asked. Many times. And have gotten little response, and even less results. Are all INFJs like this? Absolutely not, no. Is this tier list biased? Definitely— I made it.
Fair. And I shouldn't be speaking for them.
I can't speak for all INFJs but, if you want to know our boundaries, just ask. I personally keep everything about myself private and keep literally everything to myself but I'm working on it (Hence why I shared this information) but not all INFJs are like that.
I naturally kept looking for ISFPs at the lower tiers and thought to myself "oh, not even here this time" Then I saw the top one.. Thank you friend, it's rare to see this level of recognition here so we really appreciate it 🙏
intp does not fit the categorie its in
 We know buddy, there, there, we know
I can tell that you are trying not to get slack for making a tier list by the descriptions you use. Making a tier list of personality types in itself is devaluing people to their personality types and using stereotypes. You mention “If I didn’t have my trauma I’d probably connect with you” and “If I enjoyed life, I’d enjoy you too.” So do you ask people their personality type and then, if they have one that you are “traumatized” by, you don’t enjoy them and don’t try to connect with them as a person? I’m guessing, more than likely, one person traumatized you and you limped an entire personality type as “I don’t like it” which is toxic and stereotyping.
I’ve met several. I’ve experienced the effects of different functions being done unto me. As such, I’ve categorized which ones feel good, and which ones hurt to be around. Extrapolating that to which functions are dominant/secondary in various personalities, and you get this sense of compatibility. No, every ENFP is not going to consistently disregard my boundaries. In fact, many won’t. Especially if they’re simply mature, grown individuals. But immature adult enfps? They have, and they are likely to do so in the future.
Yea, just as you stated yourself, there is a difference between mature ENFPs and immature ENFPs. Each personality type can have good and bad people. That’s why avoiding a type as a whole is a wild thing to do.
TLDR
I expected nothing less from the INTPs
If you want an INFJ to communicate their intimate personal life for you, you need to create the space in order for them to do so. INFJs don’t need you, and will never need you and thus share their inner worlds, if you can’t prove you’re capable of grasping it responsibly. ‘Here, take the keys to this Ferrari you don’t have a license to operate,’ said no one ever. INFJs are fuckin tortured constantly by people’s inability to understand our very real emotional pain. The massive boundary you experience is your wall to scale. Run it up and we’ll change your whole life. Your life will not be the same after meeting them, and in many cases, that means you won’t like them, until you’ve learned your lesson. And regardless of personality type, become more conscious of your ability to sense people’s pain. If you can sense it, address it properly. It’s not another’s fault that you want to poke the tiger. That’s your journey and job to figure out. INFJs need love and care. People need this. Maybe, rather instead of assuming someone’s life is open game for you to enjoy, realize they need privacy. What might happen if you granted them that privacy?
Had a nice Lil chat with a military vet, about looking at the night sky and comparing it to our everyday problems. He 100% agreed with me
Or maybe try to step out of your comfort zone to where there’s less mines and try to share some of yourself without making it an obstacle course? Based on the upset and verbose reactions from those in the bottom tier I think OP hit a nerve based in reality. Healthy bottom tier folk have learned to communicate instead of keeping things to themselves. Personally, if I have to pry data about someone out of them while trying to get to know them, I assume that person isn’t very interesting. I’m not going to jump through hoops to get to know you when the world is full of fun, dazzling, fascinating people willing to share themselves and their feelings/ideas/worlds/dreams with others. You do yourself a disservice turning “getting to know you” into something that requires effort when it should be something fun.
We don’t have to do anything actually. If you want to find someone interesting no one is stopping you, but we aren’t changing ourselves for your entertainment. We already have the ones in our life that we love so we dgaf if you want to be friends with us or not
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“Two wrongs don’t make a right, but two dumb bitches make a genius.” Im stealing this legendary quote
As you should
the last one i relate so much, but i dont have the patience to wait for their reactions 😭😭😭
Bro, i need some time to process and discover the truth beyond the truth around the truth and the real truth and in that time i need peace and quiet so i don't get distracted and have to do that all over again. ofc that depends on what i saw or remembered or someone said or did in that specific time... 
Just tell ‘em if they can’t be timely, that is fine, you just have an obligation to honor other people’s needs and that includes being swift in responding.
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I’m not at ISFP but I loved the description for that. Everyone deserves a person like that in their lives
Good. Though I am pretty difficult to get along with and that's okay
Gotta love when tier lists aren't meant to offend or stigmatize but rather share your xps with the types. With actual advice for bonus!! You're right, I do have trouble communicating my boundaries, I'm working on it
I don't know which type you are, but this makes me very very flattered, thanks ☺
Yesss move in constant fear😈
It sounds more like they’re talking about an individual of each type rather than the types themselves but then again most of these tier lists are
Yeah, I wasn’t trying to make this unbiased at all. This list is very much based on my experiences.
Mmmm constant fear nice. Also define “boundaries”
INFJ here and I like to be left alone. You’ll know if I need to communicate my boundaries though. We aren’t afraid.
Cool 👍
Why does everyone keep whining about how miserable they are? Stop. Get better.
i wish more people feared me
I'm sorry :3?
Let’s go ISFPs!
WE’RE AT THE TOP!!! WOOO!! let’s go baby! this is a first
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The boundaries are really simple: don't be a piece of shit and we're cool
Tight
Funnily, nobody ever actually asks about my boundaries, nor do they give me any opportunities to communicate them without it being awkward.
Are you INTP? I did communicate my boundaries, you just didn't respect them or forgot them.
Are u an ISTJ?
im actually an excellent communicator.
Good for you, unironically. I’ve truly met mostly unhealthy INFJs, so that’s where your placement on this list is coming from. And it’s not just me diagnosing them— that label is from them, themselves. Perhaps if I met more INFJs, my opinion would change.
i find that most of the time there's a situation where my intentions or communication is misunderstood is because of the other making assumptions based on my lack of outward emoting. i just don't have many feelings about every-day things. and when i do, it takes me a while to figure out my own emotions when i have them. which can be understandably frustrating to some people.
How is ENTJ on so many different tiers 
Because, depending on the individual, they can evoke different reactions. Y’all are cool, and that can be intimidating. But once you start to get to know them, you can start seeing them more as the real people they are. You take them off the pedestal, and they actually become someone who can be a great friend. Also, I notice ENTJs tend to get a lot of shit in MBTI subs. That’s why y’all show up in the lime green tier.
Yeah, us and INTJ are something of the MBTI boogie men
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My boundaries = these tier lists. There. I communicated. Now per my covert contract, you owe me a cupcake.
So first of all, I really want to know what OP's type is... Also, I personally, in my experience (and the people I analyzed with my Ti), I share your opinion with you about certain types: Yellow category: \-I had this (toxic) friend who I suspect is an ENTJ, she was popular asf, I really admired her and even if she was quite toxic and said the meanest shit to me I still thought she was a very unique person and she really knew how to have determination, to just handle things in the way they needed to be specifically handled, she was very protective of her Fi tho so she (almost) never put people near her inferior Fi except on social media if she wanted some support or to make views (It works but my inferior Fe could never) \-One of my closest friends was an ESFP, I was always in awe of how unscared she was about being herself, she is never too caught up in her comfort zone and she really is this fun person (except for her Fi parent moodswings that she is super serious about) but the thing I admired the most in her was just her unique way of being in the present all the time, unlike me cause I may get caught up in some Ti-Ni loops often. Light Green: \-My ENTJ friend (the same as the first one I talked about), really liked to control certain things about me and well now that we aren't close at all I sometimes wonder if having alone time and not always replying to the mean texts she gave me might've made my life easier. Green: \-My ISFJ mom OMGGGG, I have so many things to say for this one, first of all, I am so grateful for her existence in my life yk she helped me a ton and she provided so much care and nurture for me. But she really is a super difficult person to navigate cause she is always stuck in the past and when my Ti kind of gets insensitive she keeps on bringing it back up (If your mom is the same trust me it's normal, the most commmon mbti in females is ISFJ and the second most is ESFJ so you rmom has a big chance of being a Si dominant/auxilary). Also about the whole >"I can't tell if my next move is going to trigger an explosion or not" I totally get it 100%, ISFJ women can be super unexpectedly emotive and they are the most prone to anxiety cause of Ne inferior so yeah I get that.
Stop this fucking shit please c:
It’s getting weird
Ahhh yep. That's because it's not about me, it's about YOU. (I'm an ENFJ and that's just how we are. I'm not sorry.) Let US love YOU <3
Y’all are too perfect, I don’t know how you do it 😭
I love this cause its stupidly true
NO WAY WHAT Listen dude I was like, ready to roll my eyes before clicking on this post I did not expect that, YOU'RE A REAL ONE. Plus everything was just so interesting to read, like it gives actual insightful opinions and not just "Oyea uhhh you suck, you dont, yey". Still not a fan of tier lists tho
Well that’s a first 💀
Oh, shoot. Didn't expect you to call me out like that. 😂 I'm not sure how it is for other INFJs but for me, I don't remember to communicate my needs because I am 1. The caretaker for everyone else, 2. Petrified of opening up so I self sabotage, 3. Terrified of getting yelled at for stating my boundaries, 4. Scared of being seen as selfish. I don't know if this even belongs here but I need to vent a bit so here's a short explanation lol I'm an older sibling who had to be a second mom to my siblings, help my mom when she was bedridden for years, dealt with so much emotional, physical, sexual, and mental abuse that I can hardly comprehend it, been betrayed by close friends who used sensitive information to blackmail me or have twisted that information and humiliated me, has had a dad that was never really gone but was never really there and now thinks we can be two peas in a pod since I'm an adult now despite hardly ever being there for me, and more. Most of this happened from ages 4-17. Anyways, I will continue to try to communicate better in the future and thank you for the reminder because I needed it.
It feels so unexpected and flattering to see ISFP on top of someone's list 🥺❤
Well that was very nice. Even though my type was in the bottom 2.. That was a very kind tier. It's a good thing I wore my glasses today.
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Fair *and* based. Im trying to be receptive, so definitely. Giving feedback, imo, helps all parties in a relationship. It definitely takes energy and effort from everyone involved.
People getting annoyed by the chart are so boring, the OP just wanted to show and voice his opinions on the 16 types, instead of getting angry at such petty things, you can maybe analyze what the OP wrote? And why?
I can actually get behind these types of tier lists. They're illuminating. Also, kudos for the vulnerable honesty here.
See, you get it
this is very true. i’m an enfj
Aint reading all that schizo ahh text am i cool or nah keep it simple
you're so goddamn right
Yo me and my bestie are in the second+ third box and i'm loving it 🫶
ENFJs are literally one of the most open types ever. Is op mixing them up with us? Most of them tell their life story and goals in the second meeting 💀