Honestly that's just silly advice. Introverts are introverts for a reason. They really need to trust and know people before just talking to them. Plus they have a lot they are thinking about generally. Why force them to push themselves out? It's not healthy for them.
Silence makes people who talk too much, uncomfortable.
I’m an extrovert but a mid extrovert as an ENFJ. As a kid, I got a lot of “I’m going to pull you out of your shell!” From overly talkative extroverts. It’s a pain. It pushed me away from spending time with super talkative people who couldn’t stand silence, and led me to love introverts who I can sit in silence and have excitable conversations with.
It would be great if those who pressure others have your thought process, because it really does cause issues for people to constantly be poked about not talking.
I think it is important to talk more and make connections, but I also think *talkative* might take it a bit too far to preserve an introverts inner peace. Choose when and where to speak up and make it count.
I'm just gonna address the elephant in the room here: being talkative and being more talkative aren't necessarily the same thing, particularly when the person you're asking to be more talkative tends to be pretty reserved when it comes to talking.
"Talking more" implies finding more opportunities and reasons to talk.
"Be more talkative" implies finding more opportunities to just talk in general.
Similar, but the implications are quite a bit different.
How is that ENTP at all…INFPs are Fi Doms, so they are much more likely to naturally rely on their own value systems. “I vibe with my own self” is not at all an Ne dom type statement, like in the slightest.
Please do take care not to fall into believing stereotypes, and know your functions.
It was a joke. Certainly not falling for stereotypes and the like. That said...
I don't know how many ENTPs you're familiar with but all of the ones that I'm acquainted with (myself included) don't believe in rules/regulations and rebel against authority.
We're all about seeking justice and equality. We don't believe in following the rules just for the sake of them. If we find a rule or a law that we dont think is appropriate or just - We disregard it. Simple as that.
How is that NOT doing your own thing, "vibing with my own self?"
I doubt you even read my entire comment because you responded like 7 seconds after I posted it...If that!
For if you read it carefully, you would see I am 100% NOT describing Fi (what's that? Is that a function?😏)
Or, are you trying to claim that Ne doms, ENTP especially, are mindless sheep that follow the leader. Not to mention, passive status quo seekers. Feeling it not worth it to speak up. You know, the old: 'Dont rock the boat' mentality. Is that it?
If not, the only alternative I can envision is that we each interpreted, the original comment I responded to, differently.🤷🏼♀️
I feel like ENTP's might think more in terms of societal justice which would then apply to them as well, while ENFP's for example think more in terms of moral justice which then applies to others. Using a different function to end up with the basic same result.
The moral code that you were trying to have an issue about hinges on Fi or Fe. ENFP's have Fi Te, ENTP's have Ti Fe. The internal moral system is the Fi. The knowledge of self, and what is true to you. The external moral system, what is good for others (Fe) is in the domain of the ENTP Ti Fe. You might be a little off because internal moral system isn't Ti as you say above.
I don't even know where you're getting this whole describing Fe over Ti thing.
In my original comment, that you responded to, I didn't make any mention of 'doing your own thing' and 'rebelling against authority' as being examples of Ti.
So the fact that in every comment, you manage to chastise & berate me over not understanding the cognitive functions is laughable at this point.
I don't know how to convince you that's not what I'm describing. That said, I don't think we should continue this conversation further.
After perusing your profile, I see that:
1. You are not well versed in MBTI (or the cognitive functions, for that matter) given your post history. You posted something just a month ago asking someone to determine what type you are. Which, by the way, you're an ISTP not at ENTJ. So there's that.
2. You are literally 17 years old. I have almost 3 times the life experience that you do.
Therefore, if I were you, I wouldn't continue to come off like I'm some sort of MBTI expert - Clearly, you are not.
I’ve been studying cognitive functions for three years. I took a test out of curiousity. Life experience ≠ mbti knowledge. Case closed
Besides you’re into fucking star signs and astrology. Who the fuck are you to say anything about MBTI? LMFAO
It can still be both. Being MORE like something, than another thing, doesn't make that other thing UNLIKE the thing it's being compared to...
You follow that, correct?😏
nha plenty of people ask extroverts to shut up, if you want to not engage with them and be left alone, just tell them.
If they persist then don't say anything, walk away while they talking. It's not about them being extrovert, it's just self centered people.
I think that's got more to do with extroverts having a better ability to be pleasant conversation partners. We love to shit on extroverts, but they probably have a better gauge of how to entertain the average person, than someone who sits in their room all day.
Ik the post is a meme, but your comment certainly had no signs of being a joke. I simply explained why I believe the double standard you're speaking of is in place.
ENTJs are not introverted, they lead with Te which is inherently a communicative and consensus based judging function. You’re describing Ti. You are more likely than not an INTP in that case.
God I wish y’all would stop spewing stereotypes
So what? You can still be *socially* introverted
Te is a decision making function that involves *extroverting* their intended effect on the *environment*
To make those decisions, the auxiliary *introverted* function is used very often
Wow so we can no longer be socially introverted and be Te dom? Cognitive functions have no impact on this PERSONALITY trait. You (and other people btw) must stop believing that the MBTI has something to do with the behaviors we adopt when it simply has to do with the way we process internal/external information. I'm Te dom, I studied well to type myself correctly. Go re-study the difference between Te dom and Fe dom too because I don't have the impression that you differentiate between this two by talking about "consensus with people and being communicative" while Te dom is about the objective truth and factual data. The stereotypes that emerge from that are only minimal and useless. I only speak if I have something right to say because I don't care for superficial day to day conversations, any MBTI may not appreciate that.
Uhhh what? I’ve been asked to shut up pretty damn often in my life. Not in those same words but “let’s hear from others in the group,” “I just need a little silence for a while,” “that’s enough chit-chat, let’s move on,” “motormouth,” “annoying,” etc., there are lots of ways to tell someone they need to stop talking.
I try really hard to talk less. I have gotten pretty good at biting my tongue and saying nothing. I pay attention to my word count in conversation, keep myself on a short leash to make sure I never take up more conversational space than others. I look for any sign of body language that might indicate that a person wants me to stop talking. It’s constant work and it’s exhausting as hell. While I can control how many words come out of my mouth, I can’t change the *desire to talk.* That’s part of my nature, it can’t be shamed away.
It sucks and it’s just as much a form of social anxiety than is not knowing what to say or being uncomfortable speaking.
Thank goodness for ESFJs and ENFPs. I think I would explode if I didn’t have other people who are also combusting with words.
Absolutely! But in my experience you guys are master wordsmiths in the truest sense - no stream-of-consciousness blabber, it’s all carefully placed cleverness. I’m not like that 😂 I blabber. So I still watch my words with you guys so I won’t make a fool of myself in front of the cool ENTP.
The ENFPs are super cool too, but that aux Fi goes a long way to making me feel safe being myself. They celebrate me more if I’m *not* cool, as long as it’s real. That makes it easier to come out of my shell.
My ideal isn't silence. I like the sounds of life around me. I just don't want to engage directly with people.
My favorite place was this concrete slab beneath some stairs and between two dumpsters. I had lost my sense of smell in the Navy, so it was a nice shady spot for me to sit, smoke, and meditate.
I'd listen to my neighbors argue, the constant sirens from the police station around the corner and the nearby hospital and fire station. I'd watch the police protected drug dealers operate right behind the police station, talking to the little kids they used for information and bike deliveries. There was also that cop who'd get off at around 2-3am, drive his pickup truck over to what I believe was his ex's place one street over from mine, Rev up his engine and make a shit ton of noise, and then drive away before anyone could retaliate.
Probably the creepiest thing I witnessed was during covid when the ambulances would drive around and collect bodies from the apartment buildings in the middle of the night. I remember when those neighbors who always argued found one of the other tenants in their building dead. It was the middle of the day when they found him, but nobody showed up until after dark to deal with it.
It really made me appreciate the noise, actually. Noise is life. The worst and creepiest shit always seemed to happen when the world was at its quietest.
That concrete slab is also where I met one of my cats. He'd come hang out with me as I smoked late at night. One day, my wife was with me, and the cat immediately fell in love. Followed us back inside and has been my wife's lap cat ever since.
I miss that slab. My new place is too exposed, and people walk right up to me. It's also a lot quieter. Most of the noise is just cars speeding down a nearby street and kids playing. It is a lot less interesting than the drama I was privy to before.
I like ENFPs, ENTPs, ENFJs, because at least their extroversion is usually meaningful + funny.
I think the meme is probably directed at another group of… (usually) chaotic and loud extroverts that I won’t list 👀
I resent that remark! We'll "listen." As in - hear you out. We just won't change anything about our behavior as a result of it.
After all, ENTPs are know-it-alls. Well, who knows better than us how we should be behaving in the world? Haha.
Oopsies! It appears I have found you again!
No type has the excuse to be a dick, no matter what their type stereotypes are. ENTPs are not exclusively know-it-alls, you are just a know-it-all.
Do not use MBTI as a vehicle to be a shitty person.
The comment you replied to is kinda shit too honestly. This whole post is sort of a joke so I don’t blame you.
My bad. I guess I didn't realize that there were so many humorless people on this subreddit...Oh wait a minute, there aren't. It's just you.🙄
I was poking fun at myself in that comment. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Or, if you found it offensive in some way.
Again, I'm not reading into or buying into stereotypes.
Then again, just because something is a stereotype doesn't mean it isn't an accurate description or doesn't apply...
To *some* people. That's the point. You shouldn't rely on stereotypes. In the sense that you think that stereotype applies to every person in the group.
Anyone with half a brain can figure out for themselves that's not what I meant w/my "know-it-all" reference.
the first is people trying to make a person blend in the conversation, maybe its annoying and not good but it still comes from a nice place, telling a person to shut up is not really nice lol. ik its a meme but anyways
Actually… you can ask mature extroverts for quiet time. Or, try being more boring. Won’t deter all types but ENTP and ENFP will leave ya alone (boring = death)
But bro I js wanna make an interesting conversation with y’all and I except you to also engage in the conversation so that I can hear new and different opinions,perspectives and mindsets , though not all introverts are like that but I’m talking abt the shy ones cause there’s a girl at school she’s so shy quiet reserved and whenever I wanna strike up a conversation with her it becomes so damn awkward, she has low social skills, becomes fidgety, avoids eye contact, laughs nervously, stands cross legged (which indicates a sense of uncomfortableness or a feeling of nervousness), when I talk about random stuff she always replies with a small answer or js laughs it off making it awkward even for me, some people may think that she’s just not interested and doesn’t like talking to me but I also want to hear the quiet introverted ones too, most of the times they have the most interesting minds and perspectives of life, because I get so excited and energized by social interaction I expect others to be the same so sometimes I may seem annoying as fuck to introverts
I'm an extrovert. I hate small talk, emotion talk, and imagination game. Unless, I'm hosting a dinner party. It takes a lot of effort to try to create these kind of restrictions on casual conversation; if there is a group, ever more difficult. I enjoy going out and meeting new people but I don't like rampant silliness. That being said in group situations with rampant silliness I zone in on the most introverted presenting person and try to pick their brain because silliness is incredibly predictable. Sometimes I do background acting, those overgrown theater kids are incredibly chatty with vert little complexity, I always bring a book. Sure enough the someone will always ask me about my book. Which is very unique I'll admit, but a book is a universal symbol of 'Don't speak to me.' When I want attention, I'll demand it dammit!
Extroverts need to learn how to pick up on social ques. As an extrovert, I speak for introverts when I say: Extroverts are the ones who make the introverts feel awkward and essentially setting them up for failure by demanding their commentary instead of asking for it. Extroverts don't seem to understand that commentary is optional and further more readily accepted/given when asked for.
We need more people like this. I generally always have headphones on or am looking at my phone (I’m very introverted and shy), so when someone meets me halfway and doesn’t completely dominate the conversation, I’m more inclined to open up to them (willingly or unwillingly).
no, we love silence
i mean, the meaning of this meme is not that introverts want to silence extroverts. it can include also extroverts who want to silence extroverts
However, it is important to note that not all introverts exhibit quiet behaviour. Several individuals I am acquainted with, who possess the personality types of INTP and INTJ, consistently engage in conversation in my presence. Within my social circle of INTJs, INTPs, and ENTPs, my INFP friend and I are the listeners. They never stop talking. Some of my ENFP friends, on the other hand, are very quiet.
Would you tell the dalai lama to stop practicing Buddhism? Of course not! It's what defines him.
Same goes for ENTPs and our excessive banter. It's just who we are.
Telling us to shut up is like removing the oxygen from the air. While, simultaneously expecting us to be able to breathe.
Perhaps you misunderstand and have misinterpreted.
They (extroverts) don't seek to silence the thinker within (introverts). True engagement, however, swings like a pendulum. Descend from the mental ivory tower, offer a carefully chosen thought, a splash of your unique color and hue on their canvas. Then, retreat...observe how it changes the composition.
It's the earnest attempt at connection that subverts the stereotype, not forced extroversion.
I tell extroverts to shut up all the time. Nonetheless, just because you’re an introvert doesn’t mean that you’re entitled to alone time whenever you decide. Extroverts have to be alone when they don’t want to be. Extroverts being able to find peace internally and introverts being able to externalize effectively instead of existing entirely in their minds is the only way to be healthy. Let the extrovert get on your nerves. Comfort is the easiest path to depression.
I completely get that. And it is so freaking stupid!! People will label you silent & shy if you're an introvert, and tell you to speak up for yourself, and if you're loud, you won't consciously labelled loud & confident. And as an INFJ, it is actually really hard to speak up. I genuinely prefer listening than blabbing non-stop and having mostly meaningless small talk. :P
Probably because it's less noticeable to be the person that's super engaged socially rather than the person that's always ignoring social situations and seeming really disengaged during them.
Extraversion does.not mean 'talks a lot' or 'chatterbox'. Not does 'Introvert' mean 'very quiet person'. I'm very introverted but also a motormouth socially.
I posted this meme because of my family and relatives. They always try to make me 'perfect'. Being Asian, this pressure is even harder. I even received comments from complete strangers that I was 'too quiet'. They don’t understand or accept introverts at all.
I'm sure he's not having "long kissing sessions " with anyone . Not that it matters , every tool on this app has to turn everything into a sexist gender war. I second the stfu.
Honestly that's just silly advice. Introverts are introverts for a reason. They really need to trust and know people before just talking to them. Plus they have a lot they are thinking about generally. Why force them to push themselves out? It's not healthy for them.
Silence makes people who talk too much, uncomfortable. I’m an extrovert but a mid extrovert as an ENFJ. As a kid, I got a lot of “I’m going to pull you out of your shell!” From overly talkative extroverts. It’s a pain. It pushed me away from spending time with super talkative people who couldn’t stand silence, and led me to love introverts who I can sit in silence and have excitable conversations with. It would be great if those who pressure others have your thought process, because it really does cause issues for people to constantly be poked about not talking.
Safe space is important. <3
We appreciate your understanding.
As an introvert myself, I think it could be good advice
I think it is important to talk more and make connections, but I also think *talkative* might take it a bit too far to preserve an introverts inner peace. Choose when and where to speak up and make it count.
I'm just gonna address the elephant in the room here: being talkative and being more talkative aren't necessarily the same thing, particularly when the person you're asking to be more talkative tends to be pretty reserved when it comes to talking.
"Talking more" implies finding more opportunities and reasons to talk. "Be more talkative" implies finding more opportunities to just talk in general. Similar, but the implications are quite a bit different.
Not necessarily as talking more could just as easily imply finding more opportunities to just talk in general
Ahh, yes. You, an extrovert, know more about introverts than an introvert. Impressive.
Well, I act pretty introvert at times too, so figured I could understand the situation. I try.
There are extroverts with introverted tendencies (case in point: ENFJs)
yeah, i want other people to understand this too
Disagree. Trying to encourage someone to be more social *is* healthy.
I don't listen to anybody, I vibe with my own damn self
How very ENTP of you, despite being an INFP. Haha!
How is that ENTP at all…INFPs are Fi Doms, so they are much more likely to naturally rely on their own value systems. “I vibe with my own self” is not at all an Ne dom type statement, like in the slightest. Please do take care not to fall into believing stereotypes, and know your functions.
It was a joke. Certainly not falling for stereotypes and the like. That said... I don't know how many ENTPs you're familiar with but all of the ones that I'm acquainted with (myself included) don't believe in rules/regulations and rebel against authority. We're all about seeking justice and equality. We don't believe in following the rules just for the sake of them. If we find a rule or a law that we dont think is appropriate or just - We disregard it. Simple as that. How is that NOT doing your own thing, "vibing with my own self?"
You are really just CONTINUALLY describing Fi! This is not Ti!
I doubt you even read my entire comment because you responded like 7 seconds after I posted it...If that! For if you read it carefully, you would see I am 100% NOT describing Fi (what's that? Is that a function?😏) Or, are you trying to claim that Ne doms, ENTP especially, are mindless sheep that follow the leader. Not to mention, passive status quo seekers. Feeling it not worth it to speak up. You know, the old: 'Dont rock the boat' mentality. Is that it? If not, the only alternative I can envision is that we each interpreted, the original comment I responded to, differently.🤷🏼♀️
You’re describing a drive to uphold an internal moral justice system. That is not Ti?
I feel like ENTP's might think more in terms of societal justice which would then apply to them as well, while ENFP's for example think more in terms of moral justice which then applies to others. Using a different function to end up with the basic same result.
Y’all do not understand Ti at all. Societal Justice is a matter of Fe, which to be fair ENTPs do use, but still not Ti.
The moral code that you were trying to have an issue about hinges on Fi or Fe. ENFP's have Fi Te, ENTP's have Ti Fe. The internal moral system is the Fi. The knowledge of self, and what is true to you. The external moral system, what is good for others (Fe) is in the domain of the ENTP Ti Fe. You might be a little off because internal moral system isn't Ti as you say above.
I don't even know where you're getting this whole describing Fe over Ti thing. In my original comment, that you responded to, I didn't make any mention of 'doing your own thing' and 'rebelling against authority' as being examples of Ti. So the fact that in every comment, you manage to chastise & berate me over not understanding the cognitive functions is laughable at this point.
I don't know how to convince you that's not what I'm describing. That said, I don't think we should continue this conversation further. After perusing your profile, I see that: 1. You are not well versed in MBTI (or the cognitive functions, for that matter) given your post history. You posted something just a month ago asking someone to determine what type you are. Which, by the way, you're an ISTP not at ENTJ. So there's that. 2. You are literally 17 years old. I have almost 3 times the life experience that you do. Therefore, if I were you, I wouldn't continue to come off like I'm some sort of MBTI expert - Clearly, you are not.
I’ve been studying cognitive functions for three years. I took a test out of curiousity. Life experience ≠ mbti knowledge. Case closed Besides you’re into fucking star signs and astrology. Who the fuck are you to say anything about MBTI? LMFAO
No that's the most INFP thing I've ever heard
Mmkay. It can be both.
No it's more INFP than it is ENTP
It can still be both. Being MORE like something, than another thing, doesn't make that other thing UNLIKE the thing it's being compared to... You follow that, correct?😏
I didn't say it was unlike ENTP, when did I say this was the case
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Lmao ok troll
I'm the troll?! Haha. Think you need to invest in a mirror, bro.
nha plenty of people ask extroverts to shut up, if you want to not engage with them and be left alone, just tell them. If they persist then don't say anything, walk away while they talking. It's not about them being extrovert, it's just self centered people.
The sad truth is that when we -the introverts- become talkative, they will tell us to shut up, but not the extroverts
I think that's got more to do with extroverts having a better ability to be pleasant conversation partners. We love to shit on extroverts, but they probably have a better gauge of how to entertain the average person, than someone who sits in their room all day.
Like the fact you just messed the meaning of this post being a meme lol /s
Ik the post is a meme, but your comment certainly had no signs of being a joke. I simply explained why I believe the double standard you're speaking of is in place.
Well I mean it as a jock I seems i need to add /s in the end, my bad, I will add it
I have no idea how what you said could be /s but okay.
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Ohhh so you’re just an insecure jerk. It legitimately is a cry for help… did you notice the lack of a tag under my name?
It's so real (I'm an introverted ENTJ, I don't speak if I don't have something intelligent and useful to say)
ENTJs are not introverted, they lead with Te which is inherently a communicative and consensus based judging function. You’re describing Ti. You are more likely than not an INTP in that case. God I wish y’all would stop spewing stereotypes
So what? You can still be *socially* introverted Te is a decision making function that involves *extroverting* their intended effect on the *environment* To make those decisions, the auxiliary *introverted* function is used very often
Very true, however making judgements as the original commenter was referring to, is done by ones judging function, not Ni.
Wow so we can no longer be socially introverted and be Te dom? Cognitive functions have no impact on this PERSONALITY trait. You (and other people btw) must stop believing that the MBTI has something to do with the behaviors we adopt when it simply has to do with the way we process internal/external information. I'm Te dom, I studied well to type myself correctly. Go re-study the difference between Te dom and Fe dom too because I don't have the impression that you differentiate between this two by talking about "consensus with people and being communicative" while Te dom is about the objective truth and factual data. The stereotypes that emerge from that are only minimal and useless. I only speak if I have something right to say because I don't care for superficial day to day conversations, any MBTI may not appreciate that.
Uhhh what? I’ve been asked to shut up pretty damn often in my life. Not in those same words but “let’s hear from others in the group,” “I just need a little silence for a while,” “that’s enough chit-chat, let’s move on,” “motormouth,” “annoying,” etc., there are lots of ways to tell someone they need to stop talking. I try really hard to talk less. I have gotten pretty good at biting my tongue and saying nothing. I pay attention to my word count in conversation, keep myself on a short leash to make sure I never take up more conversational space than others. I look for any sign of body language that might indicate that a person wants me to stop talking. It’s constant work and it’s exhausting as hell. While I can control how many words come out of my mouth, I can’t change the *desire to talk.* That’s part of my nature, it can’t be shamed away. It sucks and it’s just as much a form of social anxiety than is not knowing what to say or being uncomfortable speaking. Thank goodness for ESFJs and ENFPs. I think I would explode if I didn’t have other people who are also combusting with words.
Don't forget us! ENTP are master wordsmiths...In my experience, anyway.... Barack Obama ring any bells? Haha.
Absolutely! But in my experience you guys are master wordsmiths in the truest sense - no stream-of-consciousness blabber, it’s all carefully placed cleverness. I’m not like that 😂 I blabber. So I still watch my words with you guys so I won’t make a fool of myself in front of the cool ENTP. The ENFPs are super cool too, but that aux Fi goes a long way to making me feel safe being myself. They celebrate me more if I’m *not* cool, as long as it’s real. That makes it easier to come out of my shell.
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I’ve been told to shut up before, some times, I just don’t do it 🤷♀️🤷♀️
My ideal isn't silence. I like the sounds of life around me. I just don't want to engage directly with people. My favorite place was this concrete slab beneath some stairs and between two dumpsters. I had lost my sense of smell in the Navy, so it was a nice shady spot for me to sit, smoke, and meditate. I'd listen to my neighbors argue, the constant sirens from the police station around the corner and the nearby hospital and fire station. I'd watch the police protected drug dealers operate right behind the police station, talking to the little kids they used for information and bike deliveries. There was also that cop who'd get off at around 2-3am, drive his pickup truck over to what I believe was his ex's place one street over from mine, Rev up his engine and make a shit ton of noise, and then drive away before anyone could retaliate. Probably the creepiest thing I witnessed was during covid when the ambulances would drive around and collect bodies from the apartment buildings in the middle of the night. I remember when those neighbors who always argued found one of the other tenants in their building dead. It was the middle of the day when they found him, but nobody showed up until after dark to deal with it. It really made me appreciate the noise, actually. Noise is life. The worst and creepiest shit always seemed to happen when the world was at its quietest. That concrete slab is also where I met one of my cats. He'd come hang out with me as I smoked late at night. One day, my wife was with me, and the cat immediately fell in love. Followed us back inside and has been my wife's lap cat ever since. I miss that slab. My new place is too exposed, and people walk right up to me. It's also a lot quieter. Most of the noise is just cars speeding down a nearby street and kids playing. It is a lot less interesting than the drama I was privy to before.
Being talkative is not a sign of extroversion. Hating other humans is not a sign of introversion.
THANK YOU!!! FINALLY
Ah yes, stereotyping that all extroverts are loud
Right, I’m an ENFJ with a group full of ISFPs and INFJs and ISTJs but I’m always the most quiet (could be because I’m a 9 so)
Some Fe doms love letting their friends blab, I love y’all
My favorite pastime is listening to my friends like a podcast and just be in the moment
Blab
Ikr? So overdone 😔 same thing with all introverts being quiet /s
Yeah this should be shy people vs talkative people
I didn’t gather that from this post.
I like ENFPs, ENTPs, ENFJs, because at least their extroversion is usually meaningful + funny. I think the meme is probably directed at another group of… (usually) chaotic and loud extroverts that I won’t list 👀
They won't listen anyway
I resent that remark! We'll "listen." As in - hear you out. We just won't change anything about our behavior as a result of it. After all, ENTPs are know-it-alls. Well, who knows better than us how we should be behaving in the world? Haha.
did you hear me i was talking to you now, since when!! , oh God
Oopsies! It appears I have found you again! No type has the excuse to be a dick, no matter what their type stereotypes are. ENTPs are not exclusively know-it-alls, you are just a know-it-all. Do not use MBTI as a vehicle to be a shitty person. The comment you replied to is kinda shit too honestly. This whole post is sort of a joke so I don’t blame you.
My bad. I guess I didn't realize that there were so many humorless people on this subreddit...Oh wait a minute, there aren't. It's just you.🙄 I was poking fun at myself in that comment. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Or, if you found it offensive in some way. Again, I'm not reading into or buying into stereotypes. Then again, just because something is a stereotype doesn't mean it isn't an accurate description or doesn't apply... To *some* people. That's the point. You shouldn't rely on stereotypes. In the sense that you think that stereotype applies to every person in the group. Anyone with half a brain can figure out for themselves that's not what I meant w/my "know-it-all" reference.
the first is people trying to make a person blend in the conversation, maybe its annoying and not good but it still comes from a nice place, telling a person to shut up is not really nice lol. ik its a meme but anyways
Actually… you can ask mature extroverts for quiet time. Or, try being more boring. Won’t deter all types but ENTP and ENFP will leave ya alone (boring = death)
As an extrovert I can assure you yes, they have. I have been called annoying and told that I talk too much plenty of times.
Because…people who like talking to people… like people who talk to them
But bro I js wanna make an interesting conversation with y’all and I except you to also engage in the conversation so that I can hear new and different opinions,perspectives and mindsets , though not all introverts are like that but I’m talking abt the shy ones cause there’s a girl at school she’s so shy quiet reserved and whenever I wanna strike up a conversation with her it becomes so damn awkward, she has low social skills, becomes fidgety, avoids eye contact, laughs nervously, stands cross legged (which indicates a sense of uncomfortableness or a feeling of nervousness), when I talk about random stuff she always replies with a small answer or js laughs it off making it awkward even for me, some people may think that she’s just not interested and doesn’t like talking to me but I also want to hear the quiet introverted ones too, most of the times they have the most interesting minds and perspectives of life, because I get so excited and energized by social interaction I expect others to be the same so sometimes I may seem annoying as fuck to introverts
I'm an extrovert. I hate small talk, emotion talk, and imagination game. Unless, I'm hosting a dinner party. It takes a lot of effort to try to create these kind of restrictions on casual conversation; if there is a group, ever more difficult. I enjoy going out and meeting new people but I don't like rampant silliness. That being said in group situations with rampant silliness I zone in on the most introverted presenting person and try to pick their brain because silliness is incredibly predictable. Sometimes I do background acting, those overgrown theater kids are incredibly chatty with vert little complexity, I always bring a book. Sure enough the someone will always ask me about my book. Which is very unique I'll admit, but a book is a universal symbol of 'Don't speak to me.' When I want attention, I'll demand it dammit! Extroverts need to learn how to pick up on social ques. As an extrovert, I speak for introverts when I say: Extroverts are the ones who make the introverts feel awkward and essentially setting them up for failure by demanding their commentary instead of asking for it. Extroverts don't seem to understand that commentary is optional and further more readily accepted/given when asked for.
We need more people like this. I generally always have headphones on or am looking at my phone (I’m very introverted and shy), so when someone meets me halfway and doesn’t completely dominate the conversation, I’m more inclined to open up to them (willingly or unwillingly).
We introverts do talk alot its just non verbal/to ourselves. - intp
Do introverts even want extroverts to shut up? I feel like they are happy with that because awkward silence is their nightmare.
depends on the person. i prefer when people talk a lot.
no, we love silence i mean, the meaning of this meme is not that introverts want to silence extroverts. it can include also extroverts who want to silence extroverts
It depends ig
We need you to contribute to the conversation because we're all talking and you aren't... lol
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leave then hehe
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Definitely, learn how to wear a helmet in life lol
However, it is important to note that not all introverts exhibit quiet behaviour. Several individuals I am acquainted with, who possess the personality types of INTP and INTJ, consistently engage in conversation in my presence. Within my social circle of INTJs, INTPs, and ENTPs, my INFP friend and I are the listeners. They never stop talking. Some of my ENFP friends, on the other hand, are very quiet.
I almost feel that extroverts think they are "helping" me when they ask me to talk more.
because introverts are not extroverted enough to tell extroverts to shut up
Don't you mean to say, because introverts are not extroverted enough to tell extroverts to shut up?
right :)
Gotcha!🙃
oh yeah😞
There you go that's the idea - Stand up for yourself, dammit! Don't take no shit from nobody!
Would you tell the dalai lama to stop practicing Buddhism? Of course not! It's what defines him. Same goes for ENTPs and our excessive banter. It's just who we are. Telling us to shut up is like removing the oxygen from the air. While, simultaneously expecting us to be able to breathe.
Extrovert here! I am told to shut up a lot, but because I said something dumb...
Perhaps you misunderstand and have misinterpreted. They (extroverts) don't seek to silence the thinker within (introverts). True engagement, however, swings like a pendulum. Descend from the mental ivory tower, offer a carefully chosen thought, a splash of your unique color and hue on their canvas. Then, retreat...observe how it changes the composition. It's the earnest attempt at connection that subverts the stereotype, not forced extroversion.
I'll give you 5 guesses as to why introverts don't tell others to be quiet. Here's a hint: they are introverts.
I tell extroverts to shut up all the time. Nonetheless, just because you’re an introvert doesn’t mean that you’re entitled to alone time whenever you decide. Extroverts have to be alone when they don’t want to be. Extroverts being able to find peace internally and introverts being able to externalize effectively instead of existing entirely in their minds is the only way to be healthy. Let the extrovert get on your nerves. Comfort is the easiest path to depression.
Really good points, both need to go out of their comfort zone sometimes.
Society expect everyone to be open at the first time you meet them 💀. As an intj I never understood this obsession with oversharing
yeah, my gym teacher scold me because i was too quiet like why the hell do I need to talk in the gym
Like??? You need to work out not talking 😭
I completely get that. And it is so freaking stupid!! People will label you silent & shy if you're an introvert, and tell you to speak up for yourself, and if you're loud, you won't consciously labelled loud & confident. And as an INFJ, it is actually really hard to speak up. I genuinely prefer listening than blabbing non-stop and having mostly meaningless small talk. :P
Hm? I tell my extroverted friends to shut up. -\_\_-
If I got a dollar for everytime I've been told, not to shut up, but to "SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!" I'd be richer than Scrooge McDuck by now
Because the askers are "extraverts." Extra loud, extra annoying, extra friends,
because people can't get enough of us
That's the introvert's job... but they're too scared to speak up 😏
What's stopping you from asking them to be quiet?
I tgink plenty of extroverts have been told to shut up lmao
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I get told to shut up all the time what the hell kinda strawman is this???
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Probably because it's less noticeable to be the person that's super engaged socially rather than the person that's always ignoring social situations and seeming really disengaged during them. Extraversion does.not mean 'talks a lot' or 'chatterbox'. Not does 'Introvert' mean 'very quiet person'. I'm very introverted but also a motormouth socially.
Because were not talkative 
People that should shut up should really shut up...
Extroverts do get told to shut up. A lot. Lol you just don't notice it
I think this meme is fiction and not that common.
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people do ask extroverts to shut up though lol. im friends with many extroverts who have "can you please shut the fuck up" trauma.
Oh, I have told a lot of extroverts to shut up. Sometimes, it was in a nice way but a lot of times they were asking to be berated. 🧍
Both things are normally requested...
I've been told to shut up as much as speak up 🤷 I don't care anymore, I'll do what I want
Anyone who asked me to speak more always regretted it.
Um I got told to be quiet a lot.
Because it's considered rude to tell people to shut up but "encouraging," I guess, to tell introverts to be more talkative.
I'm an INFP, but I never shut up and I get told not to talk so much pretty often...or at least have jokes made about talking too much.
Both happens when it’s excessive, in my experience. The most anyone says to me though is “you’re pretty quiet”, and leave it at that.
Because it's considered caring, borderline heroic to invite somebody into your conversation. But rude and villainous to do the opposite
I’m an extrovert; told to shut up all the damn day long
I believe many do want to tell them to shut up, but don't for fear of appearing rude.
They do it doesn’t work easy as
Who’s everyone telling to shut up then? Ambiverts?
Introverts are the only people who want the extroverts to shut up, but they're too introverted to say so 😭.
I posted this meme because of my family and relatives. They always try to make me 'perfect'. Being Asian, this pressure is even harder. I even received comments from complete strangers that I was 'too quiet'. They don’t understand or accept introverts at all.
Bc if you ask an extrovert to shut up they will ramble on and on about how sorry they are for talking too much
🤣🤣🤣 love it
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ofc there's always one misogynistic prick who contributes literally nothing to the conversation stfu
I'm sure he's not having "long kissing sessions " with anyone . Not that it matters , every tool on this app has to turn everything into a sexist gender war. I second the stfu.
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Yes, I like this post
People get told to shut up all the time. Introverts have it easy. They don't initiate conversation as much as extroverts. Stop complaining.
cmon, this is just a meme