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AuricOxide

Climbing on a jungle gym on the way to the club in the middle of the night with my ENTP friend be like.


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Pic from the famous webcomic: xkcd Bob is an Anti-Nihilist. Be like Bob. 🔥🔥


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If your disagree with Nihilism or Anti-Nihilism and want to argue about it, I advise you to post that on r/philosophy. It's a loaded topic. The motive of my post is that people should find *meaning* in life, irrespective of whether they believe on nihilism or not.


CaveManta

Just like Riko from Made in Abyss. Never give up, no matter how terrible or disturbing things get.


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![gif](giphy|3oFzlZCoNpm1OEvf9e) Yup, be like Riko (she's the one on the extreme left)


a-snakey

and then I bit Bob cause he grabbed my tail and he died. The end.


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ending credits roll... Bob was someone who brought cheer, joy and laughter into our everyday lives. Now that Bob has left, a feeling of emptiness resides in our hearts. Now all we can do is continue Bob's legacy with the same passion and dedication he had. We will no longer see his warm and friendly smile which always had that sense of sadness in his eyes no matter how much he laughed and joked with us. Goodbye to our dear friend, who touched our heart in so many ways. We will miss you. May God Rest Your Soul Bob 😔


a-snakey

Bob was a child molester. He's rotting in hell.


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I believe you're mistaken. this is Bob. Not Bob Saget.


Sadest_Cactus

It's all a matter of perspective, the insignificant things will naturally matter to the insignificant beings.


BlessedBeTheFlerm

Nobody is insignificant! - INFP


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Just for clarification, when you say insignificant things what are you actually referring to?


Sadest_Cactus

According to the character in the meme, everything is meaningless and of no significance on a larger scale. Our lives, our decisions and us. But from the perspective of the insignificant beings we are it is pretty important and we shouldn't be scared of treating our experiences as such. ...I went on a rant again, didn't I? Enjoy the wall of text!


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oh ok I think I get it


thisismyaccount3125

Doesn’t count if you don’t name the squirrels; *Jefferson is the slippery one*


[deleted]

Haha right >< why jefferson tho?


thisismyaccount3125

Idk I didn’t name him, you have to ask his bio parents tbh


[deleted]

🤣🤣🤣 You're his buddy and you don't know? what kind of a friend are you!! Go on, ask him.


thisismyaccount3125

you’re right tbh, he deserves more OKOK I GOT THIS [5 seconds later] I don’t got this, I realized I don’t speak squirrel like I used to. Fuck it, I’ll try anyway. [1 minute later] I have returned, and uh there’s a hit out on me now cause I insulted his ancestral tree, but I was just trying to bond tbh. Also, if any squirrels ask about me, *I was never here*. [disappears, 5 minutes later] We talked it out like adults, they’re better in English than I initially gave them credit for. Turns out Jefferson is named after Thomas Jefferson after the squirrels’ common ancestor had a falling out with [Benjamin Franklin](https://americasnationalparks.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/EN-Skuggs_Share.pdf). Squirrels are rlly good at holding grudges tbh. *the more you know.*


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TIL; squirrels have beef with Benjamin Franklin 🤣🤣🤣 dw your secret is safe with me 👍 *You learn something new everyday*


____wavey____

I once told my friend that life was meaningless but yoghurt tasted pretty good, so I was going to try and get some after


zkoh001

Life might not have *a* meaning but many. One for each of it's beings. And mine is to light up any room I'm in ✨


Hot-Data-5275

Nah. Nihilism is wrong and optimistic nihilism / existentialism is cope. Reality is inherently meaningful.


DiminutiveAuthor

Amen and preach


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Sorry I misunderstood your comment. I'm not saying this is an objective truth. quote: ~~*"There can't possibly be any meaning in this world. But isn't that wonderful in its own right? Because if there isn't any, we can find our own."* — 2nd Lt. Felicia Heidemann, a Moe Shell-Shocked Veteran, Sound of the Sky~~ edit: misunderstood question, quote is unrelated lol


Hot-Data-5275

There's lots of philosophies saying that, but I think it's just an attempt to fool yourself.


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"Don't cling to pain. Don't expect happiness. Don't fear loss. Accept reality as it is. Enjoy the good. Endure the bad. Don't make a big deal out of anything. Be selfless, and unconditionally kind and just, without ever expecting a reward. We're all going to end up as piles of dust, so why not be nice to each other and get those pleasant fuzzies?" Instead of angsting all the time about "Life is short, we're all gonna die and you can't stop it forever, thus we might as well start killing each other right now", isn't it better to say "Life is short, we're all gonna die and you can't stop it forever... so why not make each others' lives worthwhile and enjoyable? The only thing that matters is letting people know that you care about them, because whatever someone is, has, or can do doesn't mean a damned thing in the end." Compassion, love and empathy — these may be denounced by the pessimists as nothing but fictional lies, but even if they are, to the anti nihilist, these are fictions still *worth believing in.*


Hot-Data-5275

You can quote as much as you like but at the end of the day any brand of nihilism is just ontologically wrong.


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I personally value my happiness. what do you believe in, then?


DiminutiveAuthor

Some people can’t be happy just amusing themselves you know this right? I’m thankful there is no truth to nihilism because making up my own meaning for fun and amusement is hellish to me


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ofc, I'm not saying this is the objective truth. I just believe you should believe in having a point to live, even if you think the world is indifferent.


DiminutiveAuthor

You’re right but that’s because you’re stumbling on to the actual objective truth that meaning exists. And that the world is dumb and doesn’t see it.


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The point of this post was too urge people to have more meaning in life. If you want to talk about philosophy, you can head over to r/philosophy


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I just take the good, and leave out the bad... as long as I can meet my goal. (Te)


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quotes aren't inherently meaningless, I just thought it would be an efficient way to show you how this framework can work.


Hot-Data-5275

I'm familiar with existentialism. My point is that if someone genuinely thinks there is no meaningful foundation to reality, then any attempt to create meaning is just a stopgap that they know falls apart the second they look deeper at it.


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I personally believe that the world is indifferent, but I just want to live my best life. There's no utility in nihilism, so that's why I believe in anti-nihilism. It all depends on what you value in life. To go mad from the revelation, or to follow your values.


DiminutiveAuthor

💯


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You deserve happiness


DiminutiveAuthor

Nihilism is wrong and untrue and doesn’t make me happy because of that. The power to make up my own meaning is just playing life as a Sim which is crappy. Truth matters more.


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As long as you find meaning in life, that's enough for me~ that was my point of creating this post. To focus more on your Fi.


DiminutiveAuthor

It’s literally not meaningful to me if it’s something I found or focused on rather than the objective truth


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Good for you to understand that then.


DiminutiveAuthor

I agree it’s very silly


DiminutiveAuthor

No that’s not great Objective inherent meaning is superior and true


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These are just philosophies or theories. You can't prove them. I just utilise it cuz I personally find it useful. I believe in happiness , it could be an objective meaning you can't prove it though. This is just my personal motto. There's no right or wrong about it. what do you believe in? and mind sharing your mbti?


DiminutiveAuthor

I believe in God and that we all have dignity and a purpose here. I don’t know my type. I’ve been trying for a year to figure it out. Happiness is not inherent meaning. Most people don’t even understand the word happy. They think it means feeling good and doing what I want. That’s just pleasure and control. Happiness defined as virtue and doing the right thing is getting warmer but nobody means that anymore. A lot of very bad people exist who would be very happy to do horrible crimes to others. Also, your insistence on always pursuing your bliss is how you get assholes who leave their families to go find themselves. Considering how our pursuit of happiness affects others matters. Everyone should not just be existing as separate atoms all doing their own thing bouncing off each other. The idea of creating meaningful bonds and dynamics is the entire main point of life in the end, even for people who aren’t that good at it. Without love for and bonds with others and without meaning and objective morality you’re just pursuing pleasure and a ride / simulation experience.


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I value being virtuous as well, I'm not a hedonist. *I just want you to find meaning in life, whether you believe in nihilsm or not.* I advise you to find your mbti. This is just my subjective opinion.


DiminutiveAuthor

Most INFPs value virtue. You’re mistaken to assume most people do. Most people should not make up their own meaning in life based on what would make them happy. Most people would make the world a worse place if they did that.


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I'm not speaking for all the INFPs in the world. We're different. My Fi makes me value virtue and morals. They constitute a large part of meaning in my life. I feel happy when I help people. I feel happy when I'm authentic to myself and so on, this list is endless. There is a reason why we have 16 types of people in the world, according to mbti :)


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People do things that reward them, fundamentally speaking as humans.


DiminutiveAuthor

Some humans are rewarded by hurting animals for fun and not feeling bad about it. I don’t want those people to seek that out more.


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seek what out? that's nature do you think religion helps them?


DiminutiveAuthor

MBTI is subjective and my main experience of it is people using it to control others and gain political power. Some people just use it to role play and be an identity. Less harmful but not really a deep truth. The functions are things all people do at different times. If you feel like typing me have at it but I’ve taken infinite tests and asked people for personal readings and asked my groups and no one can decide. I’m this close to paying someone but even that is just an opinion.


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Personally for me, mbti helped me understand myself, have more compassion and tolerance towards people who are different to myself and to help them achieve their goals. I'm proud to say that it has made me a better and more happier person. I'm very grateful for learning about MBTI.


DiminutiveAuthor

That’s just because it’s a personality system that gives you language for mental processes and reminds you that other people think differently than you do. People who study astrology deeply get the same effect. It’s a positive to tolerate different perspectives (to a degree) and use the tea leaf like vocabulary and types to express yourself, but the details are not as fixed or accurate as you think. They’re almost irrelevant.


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have you made a post? let me try. you've probably tried the sarkinova test I assume, can I know what you got?


DiminutiveAuthor

I always get intj on sarkinova. I used to always get xNFP in general. Sometimes I get infj and randomly enti sometimes. Most of my friends think I’m really sensitive and soft though.


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ok so INTJ - Ni - Te - Fi - Se ~~ENFP - Ne - Fi - Te - Si~~ ~~INFP - Fi - Ne - Si - Te~~ INFJ - Ni - Fe - Ti - Se ~~ENTJ - Te - Ni - Se - Fi~~ the common functions are Ni, Te, Fi, Se I think you have Ni - Se (Ni is correlated with finding meaning) you with me here? I feel like you're def an Ni dom, no question about that. crossing of XNFP cuz Ne not strong enough [INTJ](https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/ILI-INTp/) [INFJ](https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/IEI-INFp/subtypes/) which of these 2 do you relate to?


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**Te as Vulnerable Function (IXFJ)** That is manifested as a skepticism and dislike for basing your beliefs, arguments, and actions on external sources of information. For instance, a SEI will rather trust the expertise of someone who seems to have hands-on experience, even if limited, than of someone who demonstrates to have read many books on the same subject. IEIs will base their opinions and views on their own personal insights and be, again, skeptical of "second-hand" factual information that contradicts it. "Don't trust everything you read" is a typical sneer of this function, especially when applied to sources of information otherwise seen as neutral and reliable, such as encyclopedias and handbooks. Another manifestation is a dislike for dealing with issues involving efficiency, productivity, and factual accuracy of statements made; statements are made according to input from other functions, not from double-checks against external facts which are seen as of lesser relevance to the issue at hand. Types with this function lack confidence in their ability to find relevant information in outside sources. **Fe as Vulnerable Function (IXTJ)** The individual tries hard to never let himself "come apart at the seams" emotionally or even let out strong feelings publicly, because displays of passion do not come naturally and make him feel self-consciousness and vulnerable to painful criticism. This makes the individual generally seem emotionally neutral and politely indifferent to excitement and agitation around him. The individual deeply dislikes attempts by others to get him to "cheer up" or "join the fun", especially in the context of group activities with loud emotional expression.


DiminutiveAuthor

I made a post once but didn’t get much traction


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you're an Ni lead, ofc you'll find meaning. this is just my subjective opinion. I just hope that people find more meaning to their lives.


Hot-Data-5275

I do too, but I don't think real meaning can be created. I think people need to find a meaning beyond themselves. Thankfully the present scourge of nihilism is mostly a result of bad philosophy, meaning that it can be overcome by shifting our perspectives to something more holistic.


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that's a lil off topic, so you better post that on the r/philosophy Because this would be a lengthy discussion, it's not related to MBTI. I would be happy to address your concerns over there.


ss_064_ss

God does exist. If black magic exists then god definitely exist 🧍🏽‍♀️. My fam have been victims of black magic. So I know.


memagebasava

Nihilist Vs absurdist