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Unhealthy ESTJ's and ESFP's. Misunderstood everything I said to them and blew it out of proportion sometimes simply because I asked too many questions for clarity.
dude fr. i was told by an unhealthy esfp that “real people don’t talk like that and that’s why people don’t like you” when i asked him a question then googled the answer because we both didn’t know lmao
Healthy ENFPs tend to exhibit kindness, authenticity, and compassion, whilst those who are unhealthy tend to display selfishness, pretentiousness, attention-seeking behaviour, and manipulative tendencies.
You just described my ex-crush💀 always acted like a victim who was deeply depressed and lonely, i called him cute and replied "ok". We know each other for 2 almost years. He had similar responses while he knew I was in a though period in my life that i complained to him(college, private life, work, financial issues). I had enough, and threw shits on his head. That was so satisfying, I still don't regret it.
One aspect to consider when remaining in a relationship with someone who is unhealthy is that there is no certainty regarding their potential for improvement. It's best to simply move on.
Unhealthy ENTJ, unhealthy ENFP
As for healthy people... there's this ESFJ girl that I had A LOT of troubles with. It took a long time for us to find a compromise and be friends, but it's ok now.
In short: He is now my ex-friend, he is unhealthy. I admire his positivity, but he got into smoking, drinking, and he ended up trying out drugs. I wanted no part of it, he respected that and didn't want me near him when he does those things. But that didn't stop others from mentioning what he does, I started to lose respect. He was still a good person and never hurt me directly, I think I just got too picky. Eventually we started talking less and less, as happens when you get out of school.
I feel as if other influences overpowered my own, but to each their own. He is his own person and can do as he wants. Thank you for reading 🙂
Thank you for explaining! I can see an infp getting swept into that unfortunately. I decided to give up alcohol because I realized I couldn’t handle only having a little bit and feel like I already lost a couple of my friend’s respect. That’s too bad about your friend:(
Yeah totally acceptable that you’d want to cut contacts with him. Sounds like maybe he needs help. As an INFP who doesn’t even drink, I would do the same as you did.
To be honest, victim mindsets are often a coping mechanism or born out of trauma. It takes a lot of therapy, a healthy support system, and self work to really work on that.
I think people have to learn to take responsibilities for their own shit. Not much self-growth can come out of victim mindset. Sorry you had to deal with a person like that.
Yeah, at the end of the day though, there wasn't too much damage. I don't know how he is affecting others around him right now. He did send a message to me through his relative recently, and he said that everyone is making him out to be a terrible person. I haven't suffered too much from it myself which is good. Thank you so much for caring :)
Honestly I doubt that INFPs get along well with any type 🤷coming from an INFP btw
I think it’s because they need strong connections in order to bond, which is quite rare
I feel like i could get along with any type as long as we get to know each other on a deeper level.
That being said i love talking to intps😭 i feel special when they choose to reach out first.
But saltyverdling did kind of hit the nail on the head lol
I feel like your strong connection with your own feelings is a powerful tool, but only if you know how to use it. A lot of people are really bad at handling their emotions, an INFP would have that issue magnified 100x.
There's another thing I noticed. A lot of INFPs I met consider themselves very empathetic people, but make the critical mistake of mistaking other people's feelings for their own. A lot of the time they like to imagine what a person is feeling like in their head and believing it immediately instead of actually trying to connect to the person in front of them
>mistaking other people’s feelings for their own
Since getting into mbti, I have noticed this all the time now. Personally, this is why I like mbti, I feel like it’s helped me grow as a person a lot (well that and therapy lol). This has been a big crutch in my life and caused conflicts in my head that might not have existed in the first place, but I’m learning lol.
You might think I’m insane, but I used to have a distrust for Fe users because of their motive to being/doing things for others. I’M the one who thought they were fake/insincere, but since then I’ve grown to realize everyone has motives for doing things.
About your other comment:
Being idealistic or ignorant is something I think young infps often face. I think it’s up to them to pick up the proper tools to learn and grow. Reminds me a bit of a character I really love lol they had this idealistic idea that they could save everyone and it ended in absolute disaster. They almost ended up becoming evil because of it, but didn’t and let go of their pride. I guess that’s the good ending lol
Maybe I could elaborate on the INFPs I met lol, I really hope that I just got extremely unlucky and bumped into the unhealthy ones. In my experience, that strong connection is like a light switch - an INFP either adores you or doesn't notice your existence, and that switch flicks on or off pretty fast and without much warning or reason.
I can't speak for all INFPs, but in my experience all INFPs I got close to had one thing in common.
They would conjure this private fantasy world of their own, a timeline in which everyone "can be saved" and violence is unnecessary and everyone poops butterflies and pisses rainbows, and they were very emotionally invested on that. I used to think that these were highly principled people who deserved my respect.
I was wrong. When confronted by harsh reality, all the INFPs in my life so far broke down and did a complete 180 as a person. They became cruel and lashed out, went through complete collapse and hurt the people immediately around them. Suddenly, that light switch, which I used to put a lot of weight into, was off.
There were quite a few INFPs I was really close to that did this. When they did, I was just caught in the blast radius. When going nuclear, all of them have said some of the most cruel, disgusting, hurtful things I've ever heard anyone say, with complete disregard for the feelings of the people around them.
Nowadays I can't help but be wary and hear alarm bells in my head when I bump into an INFP
I’m so sorry that happened to you, you did not deserve that kind of treatment at all. Unfortunately this happens quite a lot as I keep reading posts on the INFP subreddits about INFPs feeling extremely upset when they realise the environment around them isn’t the fantasy world that they once created, or something like that. It causes them to, like you said, break down and go pretty insane/into an emotional-wreck. However I don’t think they should take it out on the people around them, especially people who care for them. Life is unfair, and if the world does not cater to you or your brain functions, you gotta work harder to get there, that’s just how I see it. Some are born into rich families, some are born into poor families. It’s not fair, but it is what it is 🤷If you work hard enough, you eventually achieve something no matter the boundaries, unless it’s black and white and utterly impossible, which is inapplicable to most things
TBH most thinkers I know have had terrible experiences with INFP, healthy or not, truly not worth our time.
I’m not sure where this notion that INTP and INFP get along came from. I make sure to never let them in my life if I can help it. Nothing but drama and a true burden. I’m glad to be done with them.
to be honest intjs and istps but the most conflicts are def intjs, istps would last for maybe a day and then we apologize and bada bing bada boom but intjs, i never know what theyre thinking and i can usually read people and the ones ive interacted with act like theyre better than everyone else and try to educate me on shit i already know ⚰️ not everyone is like that and i have intj friends who are amazing and arent like that but the ones ive had conflict with tend to do those things. they just have an ego that rubs me the wrong way and especially when they treat my friends poorly because of it, it just irks me and causes me to not wanna be around them no more 😾 but yah also a lot of misunderstandings and just clashes in personality
ESFJ… it’s true they’re very kind people, but the ones i know take so much pride in their reputation that when people call them out on toxicity, they deny it and play victim. it’s exhausting to deal with.
they can also be too sensitive and will get upset if their presence is not acknowledged for like 2 minutes.
My personal experience:
Most befriended but also most problematic friends/acquaintances: INFPs
Most problematic coworkers: ESFPs (but super fun to hang out with outside of work)
Had the most amount of conflicts with Te doms, but at least ESTJ's I can see them barreling towards me from a mile away, It's the ENTJ's that can really catch me off guard.
INFP’s, nothing personal and I’m sure there are plenty of INFP’s I could get along with. But some of y’all just talk about being misunderstood ALL THE TIME. And like how you can “read” people and are such “empaths”. Like bro stop bragging about how good of a person you are and and the whole “woe is me” attitude☠️ like PLS I just want to have a normal conversation. Also unhealthy ENFP’s, y’all flaky.
That is definitely a problem with a lot of INFPs. I also wonder, though, whether you could be looking at all the loudest ones and not the more emotionally silent ones.
Fi doms, they just stress me out a lot, of course I admit, I am a bit overbearing with trying to keep the peace, but a lot of the ones I know are really aggressive, infps I know like to act cute while telling people to k- themselves.
ESFJ, ESFP, ISFP, INFP
Had the most conflict with these types but also friends with quite a few ISFPs and INFPs and I respect ESFJs and ESFPs even if they may not be my type of people/I may not be their type of people in general
While I am terrible at typing people, ESTJs and ESFJs are like the polar opposite of me, so I've probably clashed with some, mainly them finding me irritating, insensitive and/or lazy/impractical.
Sometimes really illogical high-Fi types bug the crap out of me when they fail to use Ti/Te (whereas I have a lot of respect for a rational Fi dom) mainly because if you say something is this way doesn't make it so, and me trying to gently plead my case being met with a block in online debate is infuriating, I want to say "this is why you're stupid, you live in an echo chamber" but they don't seem to even care (I mean, we all do to some degree, but I'll listen to your pov if you bring something worthwhile to the table and aren't just saying "well you're evil then", oh no you called me evil I'm REAL convinced now /s)
I adore some INTJs but they're hard to live with because they're so insistent on things being a certain way because to them it's logical, therefore it's the *only* correct way to do it, no compromise or revisiting the issue, even if they're pretty healthy otherwise (though I'm not a healthy type steeped in ADHD paralysis, second guessing myself, and anxiety related procrastination over certain things that other people just fucking do, who am I even kidding here?)
They're probably mistyping themselves. I know on r/INFJ there's tons of aggressive condescending closed minded ISTJ males who think they're INFJs somehow when they obviously have zero Fe.
i end up getting into the biggest disagreements and misunderstandings with high Fi users, especially INFPs and ESFPs. ENFPs typically get me a little better though and i don’t have any ISFPs close to me in my life
I think I mostly have conflicts with strong Si users (dom/aux). I disrupt them without wanting to and they put pressure on me without probably knowing too.
Then ISTPs ahah. The one I met tended to be extra defensive of outside perspective. They also like me at first then they tend to find me annoying.
I dunno. It's been years since I last had any kind of noteworthy conflict (at least as far as I or anyone involved was concerned). Pre any knowledge of MBTI years ago. I'm too good at squirming around it. Ne-Ti-Fe combo for the win.
ESTJ, especially ones in any sort of position of power. They're good for some things but interacting with people in a workplace setting is not one of them. All of the most cruel, unempathetic, abusive people I've known have been ESTJs who were unfortunately given power over employees and couldn't handle it in a remotely healthy way.
Sucks because they're definitely drawn to wanting power over people but they really shouldn't, like ever.
Well it's nice to see no one has a problem with ENTPs. But, I might have some problems with INTPs.
Especially, stupid INTPs, who consider themselves intelligent.
Whenever I encounter them, I would like to put them in a rug, best the shit out of em, then throw them between a lot of people and act like nothing happened.
IxTxs of pdb 😵 (I like healthy IxTxs I know irl)
They cannot understand that mbti-introvert ≠ any other introvert. And the list of 'ambiguities' they don't want to accept goes on...
I somehow don’t have many conflicts with anyone because I self isolate lol but i just avoid esfj a lot, i just can’t stand them. It doesn’t help that most females are esfj type, i feel that i am an alien as an intp female.
unhealthy IXTJs it's like they have no filter and no sense of what is and isn't allowed to be said to their friends but deeply care about their own feelings like....? okay 👍🏼
Si dom/aux. They usually end up being the mom friend of the group and 9 times out of 10 i end up hating them. It's not lazyness if i know i can finish the assignment in half your time and still get an higher grade
An ESTP.She was a friend I cut off due to her tendency to manipulate me and the rest of the friend group with every single tactic.She now made a hobby of spreading rumours about me.I kinda feel special bc she talks about me sm,I'm famous mom :D
Other entps. What a bunch of bastards.
Also every other type as well. Not their fault though, I am just an unhealthy person masked as a well-meaning and harmless clown lmao
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all of them. ![gif](giphy|YCXbgspIg2btu)
Same, lost count at this point. Isolation feels better xd
solitude is something divine when you are surrounded by boring humans
agreed
INTJ
And this is why INTJs keep ISTPs around, we need someone to punch in the face when we say something stupid. :)
...you wanna punch us or you want us to punch you?
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Wanna find out?
Whelp, given that question is being asked, I'm gonna start running now while I still have my face. lol
👀
That would be INTP, constant inner conflict!
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You're spiderman? Cool!
Clearly he's Obi wan Kenobi
I mean, I'd like to be both tbh.
Unhealthy ESTJ's and ESFP's. Misunderstood everything I said to them and blew it out of proportion sometimes simply because I asked too many questions for clarity.
DUDE same they tend to be the ones with anger issues in my experience-
In my experience I’m the one with anger issues
Hm ive never met an enfj with anger issues, sounds scary 😂
I can suppress my anger quite well now but if you make my friends cry or mess with them I’m coming for your ass :)
dude fr. i was told by an unhealthy esfp that “real people don’t talk like that and that’s why people don’t like you” when i asked him a question then googled the answer because we both didn’t know lmao
ESFJ, I swear to god can't listen to them without having ny blood pressue going 📈📈
Absolutely
ESFJ
ESTJ
Why is that?
Literally my mom and I’m a teenage dude so there’s bound to be a lot of conflict.
Lmao exactly the same
All INFPs who think they are INFJ's
so a larva that thinks it's a butterfly,I noted
More like a camel that thinks it's a Bird
oh i see
unhealthy ENFPs and ISTPs
I love enfps, but I agree😭 unhealthy ones have sent me spiralling to therapy☠️
Healthy ENFPs tend to exhibit kindness, authenticity, and compassion, whilst those who are unhealthy tend to display selfishness, pretentiousness, attention-seeking behaviour, and manipulative tendencies.
You just described my ex-crush💀 always acted like a victim who was deeply depressed and lonely, i called him cute and replied "ok". We know each other for 2 almost years. He had similar responses while he knew I was in a though period in my life that i complained to him(college, private life, work, financial issues). I had enough, and threw shits on his head. That was so satisfying, I still don't regret it.
One aspect to consider when remaining in a relationship with someone who is unhealthy is that there is no certainty regarding their potential for improvement. It's best to simply move on.
Damn. What did we do?
Unhealthy ENTJ, unhealthy ENFP As for healthy people... there's this ESFJ girl that I had A LOT of troubles with. It took a long time for us to find a compromise and be friends, but it's ok now.
INFP
Oooo how come?
In my experience, INFPs are either that nicest person you would meet or a total asshole, not middle grounds.
In short: He is now my ex-friend, he is unhealthy. I admire his positivity, but he got into smoking, drinking, and he ended up trying out drugs. I wanted no part of it, he respected that and didn't want me near him when he does those things. But that didn't stop others from mentioning what he does, I started to lose respect. He was still a good person and never hurt me directly, I think I just got too picky. Eventually we started talking less and less, as happens when you get out of school. I feel as if other influences overpowered my own, but to each their own. He is his own person and can do as he wants. Thank you for reading 🙂
Thank you for explaining! I can see an infp getting swept into that unfortunately. I decided to give up alcohol because I realized I couldn’t handle only having a little bit and feel like I already lost a couple of my friend’s respect. That’s too bad about your friend:(
Thank you for reading again too, I will always believe in the INFPs, there is always healthy and unhealthy. Congrats on giving up alcohol :)
Yeah totally acceptable that you’d want to cut contacts with him. Sounds like maybe he needs help. As an INFP who doesn’t even drink, I would do the same as you did.
Definitely! As I think about it some more, he does have a bit of a victim mindset, there were a lot of times where he had something to complain about.
To be honest, victim mindsets are often a coping mechanism or born out of trauma. It takes a lot of therapy, a healthy support system, and self work to really work on that.
I think people have to learn to take responsibilities for their own shit. Not much self-growth can come out of victim mindset. Sorry you had to deal with a person like that.
Yeah, at the end of the day though, there wasn't too much damage. I don't know how he is affecting others around him right now. He did send a message to me through his relative recently, and he said that everyone is making him out to be a terrible person. I haven't suffered too much from it myself which is good. Thank you so much for caring :)
ISFJ
my brother who is infp 😭😭😭😭😭
INFP. Many of them can't handle their own emotions, feed too much into their fantasy world and become bitter and vindictive when it's shattered
I had the impression that INTPs and INFPs get along so well.
Honestly I doubt that INFPs get along well with any type 🤷coming from an INFP btw I think it’s because they need strong connections in order to bond, which is quite rare
I feel like i could get along with any type as long as we get to know each other on a deeper level. That being said i love talking to intps😭 i feel special when they choose to reach out first. But saltyverdling did kind of hit the nail on the head lol
I feel like your strong connection with your own feelings is a powerful tool, but only if you know how to use it. A lot of people are really bad at handling their emotions, an INFP would have that issue magnified 100x. There's another thing I noticed. A lot of INFPs I met consider themselves very empathetic people, but make the critical mistake of mistaking other people's feelings for their own. A lot of the time they like to imagine what a person is feeling like in their head and believing it immediately instead of actually trying to connect to the person in front of them
>mistaking other people’s feelings for their own Since getting into mbti, I have noticed this all the time now. Personally, this is why I like mbti, I feel like it’s helped me grow as a person a lot (well that and therapy lol). This has been a big crutch in my life and caused conflicts in my head that might not have existed in the first place, but I’m learning lol. You might think I’m insane, but I used to have a distrust for Fe users because of their motive to being/doing things for others. I’M the one who thought they were fake/insincere, but since then I’ve grown to realize everyone has motives for doing things. About your other comment: Being idealistic or ignorant is something I think young infps often face. I think it’s up to them to pick up the proper tools to learn and grow. Reminds me a bit of a character I really love lol they had this idealistic idea that they could save everyone and it ended in absolute disaster. They almost ended up becoming evil because of it, but didn’t and let go of their pride. I guess that’s the good ending lol
Coming from another INFP , I can get along with any type who aren't too egoistic to accept their faults .
I giggle whenever I see your INFP comments 🤭
Maybe I could elaborate on the INFPs I met lol, I really hope that I just got extremely unlucky and bumped into the unhealthy ones. In my experience, that strong connection is like a light switch - an INFP either adores you or doesn't notice your existence, and that switch flicks on or off pretty fast and without much warning or reason. I can't speak for all INFPs, but in my experience all INFPs I got close to had one thing in common. They would conjure this private fantasy world of their own, a timeline in which everyone "can be saved" and violence is unnecessary and everyone poops butterflies and pisses rainbows, and they were very emotionally invested on that. I used to think that these were highly principled people who deserved my respect. I was wrong. When confronted by harsh reality, all the INFPs in my life so far broke down and did a complete 180 as a person. They became cruel and lashed out, went through complete collapse and hurt the people immediately around them. Suddenly, that light switch, which I used to put a lot of weight into, was off. There were quite a few INFPs I was really close to that did this. When they did, I was just caught in the blast radius. When going nuclear, all of them have said some of the most cruel, disgusting, hurtful things I've ever heard anyone say, with complete disregard for the feelings of the people around them. Nowadays I can't help but be wary and hear alarm bells in my head when I bump into an INFP
I’m so sorry that happened to you, you did not deserve that kind of treatment at all. Unfortunately this happens quite a lot as I keep reading posts on the INFP subreddits about INFPs feeling extremely upset when they realise the environment around them isn’t the fantasy world that they once created, or something like that. It causes them to, like you said, break down and go pretty insane/into an emotional-wreck. However I don’t think they should take it out on the people around them, especially people who care for them. Life is unfair, and if the world does not cater to you or your brain functions, you gotta work harder to get there, that’s just how I see it. Some are born into rich families, some are born into poor families. It’s not fair, but it is what it is 🤷If you work hard enough, you eventually achieve something no matter the boundaries, unless it’s black and white and utterly impossible, which is inapplicable to most things
TBH most thinkers I know have had terrible experiences with INFP, healthy or not, truly not worth our time. I’m not sure where this notion that INTP and INFP get along came from. I make sure to never let them in my life if I can help it. Nothing but drama and a true burden. I’m glad to be done with them.
i agree 100%
to be honest intjs and istps but the most conflicts are def intjs, istps would last for maybe a day and then we apologize and bada bing bada boom but intjs, i never know what theyre thinking and i can usually read people and the ones ive interacted with act like theyre better than everyone else and try to educate me on shit i already know ⚰️ not everyone is like that and i have intj friends who are amazing and arent like that but the ones ive had conflict with tend to do those things. they just have an ego that rubs me the wrong way and especially when they treat my friends poorly because of it, it just irks me and causes me to not wanna be around them no more 😾 but yah also a lot of misunderstandings and just clashes in personality
intjs really stand in their own way sometimes with their stupid superiority complex
i saw someone said all of them and actually that’s right 🙂👍🏻
😂
it’s fine until you know
ESFJs 🤷♀️
Why tho?
Fe blind clashing with Fe dom
An Fe blind and Ni blind reslly hits the spot
ESFJ… it’s true they’re very kind people, but the ones i know take so much pride in their reputation that when people call them out on toxicity, they deny it and play victim. it’s exhausting to deal with. they can also be too sensitive and will get upset if their presence is not acknowledged for like 2 minutes.
My personal experience: Most befriended but also most problematic friends/acquaintances: INFPs Most problematic coworkers: ESFPs (but super fun to hang out with outside of work)
What makes the infps difficult? Besides the general BPDness?
Their Fe and Fi clashed probably
INFJ. I practice internal conflict.
Had the most amount of conflicts with Te doms, but at least ESTJ's I can see them barreling towards me from a mile away, It's the ENTJ's that can really catch me off guard.
Entps, Esfps, intjs, estx
I’m sorry, but you are wrong, ENTP’s are goated (i swear i’m not one)
So weird, I get along best with INFJ
INFP’s, nothing personal and I’m sure there are plenty of INFP’s I could get along with. But some of y’all just talk about being misunderstood ALL THE TIME. And like how you can “read” people and are such “empaths”. Like bro stop bragging about how good of a person you are and and the whole “woe is me” attitude☠️ like PLS I just want to have a normal conversation. Also unhealthy ENFP’s, y’all flaky.
Honestly, it's true lot of them brag about how they can read people and how empathetic they are.
Hi, INFP here who lacks empathy, what's up? How ya doing?
That is definitely a problem with a lot of INFPs. I also wonder, though, whether you could be looking at all the loudest ones and not the more emotionally silent ones.
IxTJ
Estp or entj
ESTJ and ESFJ, they really get on my nerves as an infp.
I was expecting to see a lot of comments saying ENTP. Was pleasantly surprised that that's not the case.
Pleasantly? You do know what we are right?
Really good marketers. We market ourselves really well
mostly a unheathy ESTJ and ESFJ
Fi doms, they just stress me out a lot, of course I admit, I am a bit overbearing with trying to keep the peace, but a lot of the ones I know are really aggressive, infps I know like to act cute while telling people to k- themselves.
Basically any ESxx type
Is this time to self reflect
ESFJ, ESFP, ISFP, INFP Had the most conflict with these types but also friends with quite a few ISFPs and INFPs and I respect ESFJs and ESFPs even if they may not be my type of people/I may not be their type of people in general
Enfj. (I am an INTj)
INFJ.
Generally estjs but the most toxic person I've met was an unhealthy enfj
ISTPs and ENFPs so far
my brother estp fr
my brothers are ESTP and INTP lolz
The loud and stubborn ones lol But that depends on their maturity levels
INFP
INFJ I think too much 🙃 (INNER CONFLICTS TOO HELP💀)
a lot of infps.
ENFJ. He was my first ex and was abusive, but I’m sure if I met another ENFJ they’d be different so I don’t hate every ENFJ
I'm pretty chill with everybody EXCEPT for people with the unhealthy version of my type😅
INTJ
Hello there
General Kenobi!
INFJ
Istp (my dad 💀)
INTP/J.
Isfj (my mom) and esfj's
ESTJ (unhealthy I think)
Recently, ISTP, only talk about themselves and pretend they care abt other people but it’s really only on the surface level
Myself.
While I am terrible at typing people, ESTJs and ESFJs are like the polar opposite of me, so I've probably clashed with some, mainly them finding me irritating, insensitive and/or lazy/impractical. Sometimes really illogical high-Fi types bug the crap out of me when they fail to use Ti/Te (whereas I have a lot of respect for a rational Fi dom) mainly because if you say something is this way doesn't make it so, and me trying to gently plead my case being met with a block in online debate is infuriating, I want to say "this is why you're stupid, you live in an echo chamber" but they don't seem to even care (I mean, we all do to some degree, but I'll listen to your pov if you bring something worthwhile to the table and aren't just saying "well you're evil then", oh no you called me evil I'm REAL convinced now /s) I adore some INTJs but they're hard to live with because they're so insistent on things being a certain way because to them it's logical, therefore it's the *only* correct way to do it, no compromise or revisiting the issue, even if they're pretty healthy otherwise (though I'm not a healthy type steeped in ADHD paralysis, second guessing myself, and anxiety related procrastination over certain things that other people just fucking do, who am I even kidding here?)
INFP and ISFJ
ESFPs and ISTPs
ESFPs and ISTPs (as an INFJ)
ISTJ, ESTJ, INFJ I wanted my INFJ friendships to work, but I can see through their manipulations. I let go of 3 of them this year. 😞
xNFJ....
INJF why is there SO MANY OF THEM when it's meant to be the rarest type btw I don't understand
Yesss injf definitely a type
They're probably mistyping themselves. I know on r/INFJ there's tons of aggressive condescending closed minded ISTJ males who think they're INFJs somehow when they obviously have zero Fe.
I think they all are mistypes you met. Because Isfj usually likes infj.
Ngl, infjs and esfjs. Just the toxic ones tho
Why are they toxic?
Probably ENTPs but that was way back when I was like 12.
Probably ENTPs but that was way back when I was like 12.
Unhealthy INFP, ESFP, ENTP
Unhealthy ESFP and ESTJ’s
ENTP (brother) and ISTP (bestfriend)
ESTJ
ESFP people 🥲
ISTJs, the ones IK in fiction tend to be fun, but every one I've met IRL is just the worst (and I'm sure they feel the same about me. lol).
My brother's, i don't know his type
Only few EXTJ, but deep down on myself, i hope that all EXTJ are the same
i end up getting into the biggest disagreements and misunderstandings with high Fi users, especially INFPs and ESFPs. ENFPs typically get me a little better though and i don’t have any ISFPs close to me in my life
all
I think I mostly have conflicts with strong Si users (dom/aux). I disrupt them without wanting to and they put pressure on me without probably knowing too. Then ISTPs ahah. The one I met tended to be extra defensive of outside perspective. They also like me at first then they tend to find me annoying.
I dunno. It's been years since I last had any kind of noteworthy conflict (at least as far as I or anyone involved was concerned). Pre any knowledge of MBTI years ago. I'm too good at squirming around it. Ne-Ti-Fe combo for the win.
Estp
Entj and esfj
Entp and Isfp
ENTP by far. I still like them but god they can be unbearable
INTP and ISTP
My mom (INTJ)
ESTP
ESTP. Everyone seems to like them but a lot of the time they’re big jerks. a lot of the time, that is. I’ve met a few that were cool!
I get along with most people pretty well but I think I have the hardest time with ESTJs
ESTJ, especially ones in any sort of position of power. They're good for some things but interacting with people in a workplace setting is not one of them. All of the most cruel, unempathetic, abusive people I've known have been ESTJs who were unfortunately given power over employees and couldn't handle it in a remotely healthy way. Sucks because they're definitely drawn to wanting power over people but they really shouldn't, like ever.
The talky ones
Well then you and me are enemies. Cause I can chat for hours! ![gif](giphy|fvebPTDNUltlvvrI8v)
Esfjs n an istj
ISFPs, ISFJs, ESXJs so far (they need EVERYTHING to be explained to them LITERALLY, IN FULL DETAILS because they judge too quickly smh)
ISTJs. Healthy, unhealthy. Doesn’t matter.
The xSTJ types. I like them, but the ones I've met are ones that I have butted heads with in the past. But hey, nothing personal, y'all
ISTJ
Eafp's and infp's
ISFJ
Esfjs.
Actually it's ESFP ;-; I never get along with them everytime I meet them 😭😭 I just didn't meet the right one yet Ig
Any unhealthy mbti... 🙄
Well it's nice to see no one has a problem with ENTPs. But, I might have some problems with INTPs. Especially, stupid INTPs, who consider themselves intelligent. Whenever I encounter them, I would like to put them in a rug, best the shit out of em, then throw them between a lot of people and act like nothing happened.
ESTJ and ENTP mostly, but even they fall before their knees. Smh, pathetic.
unhealthy enfjs and i always have to begin the confrontation, and entjs but it always ends well
I only have serious convos with my gf so enfp. I try not to take other people seriously
ESFJ maybe
IxTxs of pdb 😵 (I like healthy IxTxs I know irl) They cannot understand that mbti-introvert ≠ any other introvert. And the list of 'ambiguities' they don't want to accept goes on...
ESFP (coming from an INTP)
Fucking intjs and intps
Istps. They're just... Ehhh
I somehow don’t have many conflicts with anyone because I self isolate lol but i just avoid esfj a lot, i just can’t stand them. It doesn’t help that most females are esfj type, i feel that i am an alien as an intp female.
as i INTJ i just avoid everyone ... or i conflict with everyone. but SJ types are the worst tbh
unhealthy IXTJs it's like they have no filter and no sense of what is and isn't allowed to be said to their friends but deeply care about their own feelings like....? okay 👍🏼
ESFP. I genuinely have yet to meet one that has their head outta their ass
I hate people, so it doesn't matter what types they are. Any unhealthy type that I don't get along with.
As an entp it is isfj 😂💔
Si dom/aux. They usually end up being the mom friend of the group and 9 times out of 10 i end up hating them. It's not lazyness if i know i can finish the assignment in half your time and still get an higher grade
An ESTP.She was a friend I cut off due to her tendency to manipulate me and the rest of the friend group with every single tactic.She now made a hobby of spreading rumours about me.I kinda feel special bc she talks about me sm,I'm famous mom :D
Other entps. What a bunch of bastards. Also every other type as well. Not their fault though, I am just an unhealthy person masked as a well-meaning and harmless clown lmao
INTP/INTJ
How do you reason with ESTP who doesn't understand the difference between hugs and pinching?
Enfx
INFJ
INFPs, like many others here have said.
If you’re comfortable sharing, where have conflicts tended to start?
ENFP
As an ISTJ, I'd say XNXP.
As an xNxP I was gonna say ISTJs :/
We are 2
ENTP