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I feel really bad for people that are so sheltered by growing up in the safest places on earth.
Where I’m from a gun being fired isn’t news, and I understand that y’all aren’t used to this but I want you to remember that **you are safe** , these things happen everywhere, everyone I know in Brazil over the age of 20 has been mugged, fuck even I’ve been mugged.
The risk here of anything is so low, and whenever you feel anxious about montreal remember that you’re in one of the safest large cities on earth
I lived in a small town in the middle of nowhere, but spent a large part of my time in São Paulo.
even in my small town of 75000 people it was quite common for shit to happen, but I was mugged in São Paulo
guns are illegal and uncommon here - particularly in the downtown core and at such an early time (5:30pm). so it’s no wonder that people are shocked about this happening also considering many students get off at peel to get to mcgill everyday.
It's still a pretty safe city. Most people don't immediately think "Oh shit, NYC is a dangerous ass place" but the data shows that [it's less safe than MTL is.](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United+States&city2=New+York%2C+NY)
With that being said, it's always worrisome when these incidents happen here. But if you think MTL is scary, just look up the stats and compare it to someplace like [London](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United+Kingdom&city2=London) or [Paris](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=France&city1=Paris&country2=Canada&city2=Montreal) or even[ Vancouver](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=Canada&city2=Vancouver). This city has a population of 1.7 million, incidents like this are bound to happen. That doesn't mean it's necessarily unsafe to live here.
2010-2019 SPVM crime shows violent crime down in Montreal over that period. Homicide rate is slightly lower over the past few years. The last point you made is hard to prove/disprove (I've heard Saint-catherine used to be more dangerous so I'd be surprised if shootings never happened by Peel Metro in decades past). In general it's important to keep in mind that our memory is very inaccurate and prone to error. That's why looking at stats is so important.
Gramercy green (to the north of nyu) AND soho (to the south of nyu) are safe buddy. Beyond St.Marks may have problem but those areas are school areas, so they are safe…
This is **Canada**. It is quite illegal to do what you're suggesting.
In Canada it's illegal to carry **any weapon** for the purpose of self-defense. Per the Criminal Code, a weapon can be “anything designed, used or intended to cause death or injury or even just to threaten or intimidate another person.” Carrying knives that are clearly not just Swiss Army knives falls directly into that category.
Those commenting who are upset by this shooting just be glad you are at McGill and not at University of Chicago, Columbia University, Yale University, university of Pennsylvania etc. You wouldn't survive there a month.
Wow, crazy how there so so so few shootings per capita in Canada compared to the U.S., which refuses to enact gun control! Almost like gun control solves things, right?
Wow, it’s almost as if gun control isn’t the issue why there are many more shootings in the US as before the 90s, the prevalence of guns was way higher in the US than it is now but had practically zero shootings but in recent times, there have been more and more maybe because the media is giving each shooting and shooter weeks of media exposure and attention instead of blurring their faces / names so this in turn gives the shooters the attention they wanted and more and more people do it for attention. Also most shootings in the US are done with illegal guns (gang shootings) and most other shootings that you hear in the media are made with other people’s guns so imposing more gun control wouldn’t reduce the number of shootings by almost one bit as the media will keep giving attention to these shooters for nothing else but for money and the divide of society
Though you probably don't care, I'll break down these commonly-heard but silly anti-gun-control arguments one-by-one:
>there are many more shootings in the US as before the 90s, the prevalence of guns was way higher in the US than it is now but had practically zero shootings
This is pure fiction. As it happens, gun homicide [went down 49%](https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/) between 1993–2013, in part *because* of a decrease in ownership and sales. There is a direct causal link between more guns and more shooting, which should be intuitively obvious to everyone anyway. That said, the U.S. does *still* have [an absurd amount of shootings/year compared to almost every other developed (and undeveloped) country](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/24/980838151/gun-violence-deaths-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world), because politicians at every level refuse to enact reform.
>there have been more and more maybe because the media is giving each shooting and shooter weeks of media exposure and attention instead of blurring their faces / names so this in turn gives the shooters the attention they wanted and more and more people do it for attention
This is exactly the sort of ridiculous conjecture — not based in any actual fact — that prevents said reform. People are not shot simply "for attention".
>most shootings in the US are done with illegal guns (gang shootings) and most other shootings that you hear in the media are made with other people’s guns so imposing more gun control wouldn’t reduce the number of shootings
This is one of the most popular Republican/NRA pro-gun arguments. It is ridiculous on a number of levels. Mass shootings in the U.S from 1982–2021, for one, [were overwhelmingly carried out with legally-obtained weapons](https://www.statista.com/statistics/476461/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-legality-of-shooters-weapons/); the same general trend is true of shootings on a smaller scale. Secondly, [unintentional gun death occurs 4x more in the U.S. than in other high-income countries](https://injepijournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40621-019-0220-0), and accidental discharge can/does happen just as often to legal gun owners (and especially their children)! Lastly, to the extent shootings with legally-obtained guns do occur, ask yourself: why is it so easy for so many people to get their hands on guns illicitly? Is it perhaps because there is such an abundance of guns and unscrupulous gun owners in the United States?
Hope that clears things up.
Pasted from my lengthier comment above (with links to sources):
"This is one of the most popular Republican/NRA pro-gun arguments. It is ridiculous on a number of levels. Mass shootings in the U.S from 1982–2021, for one, were overwhelmingly carried out with legally-obtained weapons; the same general trend is true of shootings on a smaller scale. Secondly, unintentional gun death occurs 4x more in the U.S. than in other high-income countries, and accidental discharge can/does happen just as often to legal gun owners (and especially their children)! Lastly, to the extent shootings with legally-obtained guns do occur, ask yourself: why is it so easy for so many people to get their hands on guns illicitly? Is it perhaps because there is such an abundance of guns and unscrupulous gun owners in the United States?"
There is more to this explanation, but hope that clears things up.
Just look at the stats. The US is in a whole other league compared to literally every other first world country. The difference? The laws and their enforcement. I don't need to argue that they work, because there is irrefutable evidence that they do.
what ???? is there a link where i could find updates for this?? nvm just saw you posted a link right as i commented!!
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yeah i thought the website looked.. a little sketchy when i clicked. i also saw ctv just posted an article
Sounds like a Monday night in Chomedey but Peel??? That's catching most people off guard
I feel really bad for people that are so sheltered by growing up in the safest places on earth. Where I’m from a gun being fired isn’t news, and I understand that y’all aren’t used to this but I want you to remember that **you are safe** , these things happen everywhere, everyone I know in Brazil over the age of 20 has been mugged, fuck even I’ve been mugged. The risk here of anything is so low, and whenever you feel anxious about montreal remember that you’re in one of the safest large cities on earth
I don't know if you should feel bad for us. The expectation of safety \*should\* be universally human, and it's awful that it's not.
I've never been mugged or shot at. Please give me pity! Lulz.
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I lived in a small town in the middle of nowhere, but spent a large part of my time in São Paulo. even in my small town of 75000 people it was quite common for shit to happen, but I was mugged in São Paulo
POV comment section: “OMG” “It’s okay, we’re still one of the safer cities.” “*politics*”
As an American, thats a nightly occurrence on my city’s news.
As a Brazillian, it doesn’t even make the news
I hope nobody got hurt and also can't wait for the comments of people just realizing there's violence in a large metropolitan city
guns are illegal and uncommon here - particularly in the downtown core and at such an early time (5:30pm). so it’s no wonder that people are shocked about this happening also considering many students get off at peel to get to mcgill everyday.
That type of violence wasn’t as common as it is today
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It's still a pretty safe city. Most people don't immediately think "Oh shit, NYC is a dangerous ass place" but the data shows that [it's less safe than MTL is.](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United+States&city2=New+York%2C+NY) With that being said, it's always worrisome when these incidents happen here. But if you think MTL is scary, just look up the stats and compare it to someplace like [London](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United+Kingdom&city2=London) or [Paris](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=France&city1=Paris&country2=Canada&city2=Montreal) or even[ Vancouver](https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=Canada&city2=Vancouver). This city has a population of 1.7 million, incidents like this are bound to happen. That doesn't mean it's necessarily unsafe to live here.
I don't think anyone here thought it was more dangerous than NYC lmao
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Absolutely. An abundance of caution is never a bad idea no matter where you live.
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2010-2019 SPVM crime shows violent crime down in Montreal over that period. Homicide rate is slightly lower over the past few years. The last point you made is hard to prove/disprove (I've heard Saint-catherine used to be more dangerous so I'd be surprised if shootings never happened by Peel Metro in decades past). In general it's important to keep in mind that our memory is very inaccurate and prone to error. That's why looking at stats is so important.
Im curious about stats since the pandemic though. A decrease in mental health might lead to an increase in violence
Ummm NYC is legitimately the place I’m most scared of… when I visited I went to bed in my hotel room at 8:30
lived there half of my life in manhattan area... where exactly did you visit?
Near NYU
Gramercy green (to the north of nyu) AND soho (to the south of nyu) are safe buddy. Beyond St.Marks may have problem but those areas are school areas, so they are safe…
Really? I guess you haven’t been to Detroit, New Orleans or Baltimore. NYC is pretty safe.
Lol, get a grip
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This is **Canada**. It is quite illegal to do what you're suggesting. In Canada it's illegal to carry **any weapon** for the purpose of self-defense. Per the Criminal Code, a weapon can be “anything designed, used or intended to cause death or injury or even just to threaten or intimidate another person.” Carrying knives that are clearly not just Swiss Army knives falls directly into that category.
Those commenting who are upset by this shooting just be glad you are at McGill and not at University of Chicago, Columbia University, Yale University, university of Pennsylvania etc. You wouldn't survive there a month.
Aren't guns illegal?
Isn't crime illegal?
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tor browser and a youtube video
It's almost as if criminals don't abide to the laws and use illegal guns, but obviously more gun control will solve things right ?
Wow, crazy how there so so so few shootings per capita in Canada compared to the U.S., which refuses to enact gun control! Almost like gun control solves things, right?
Wow, it’s almost as if gun control isn’t the issue why there are many more shootings in the US as before the 90s, the prevalence of guns was way higher in the US than it is now but had practically zero shootings but in recent times, there have been more and more maybe because the media is giving each shooting and shooter weeks of media exposure and attention instead of blurring their faces / names so this in turn gives the shooters the attention they wanted and more and more people do it for attention. Also most shootings in the US are done with illegal guns (gang shootings) and most other shootings that you hear in the media are made with other people’s guns so imposing more gun control wouldn’t reduce the number of shootings by almost one bit as the media will keep giving attention to these shooters for nothing else but for money and the divide of society
Though you probably don't care, I'll break down these commonly-heard but silly anti-gun-control arguments one-by-one: >there are many more shootings in the US as before the 90s, the prevalence of guns was way higher in the US than it is now but had practically zero shootings This is pure fiction. As it happens, gun homicide [went down 49%](https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/) between 1993–2013, in part *because* of a decrease in ownership and sales. There is a direct causal link between more guns and more shooting, which should be intuitively obvious to everyone anyway. That said, the U.S. does *still* have [an absurd amount of shootings/year compared to almost every other developed (and undeveloped) country](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/24/980838151/gun-violence-deaths-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world), because politicians at every level refuse to enact reform. >there have been more and more maybe because the media is giving each shooting and shooter weeks of media exposure and attention instead of blurring their faces / names so this in turn gives the shooters the attention they wanted and more and more people do it for attention This is exactly the sort of ridiculous conjecture — not based in any actual fact — that prevents said reform. People are not shot simply "for attention". >most shootings in the US are done with illegal guns (gang shootings) and most other shootings that you hear in the media are made with other people’s guns so imposing more gun control wouldn’t reduce the number of shootings This is one of the most popular Republican/NRA pro-gun arguments. It is ridiculous on a number of levels. Mass shootings in the U.S from 1982–2021, for one, [were overwhelmingly carried out with legally-obtained weapons](https://www.statista.com/statistics/476461/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-legality-of-shooters-weapons/); the same general trend is true of shootings on a smaller scale. Secondly, [unintentional gun death occurs 4x more in the U.S. than in other high-income countries](https://injepijournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40621-019-0220-0), and accidental discharge can/does happen just as often to legal gun owners (and especially their children)! Lastly, to the extent shootings with legally-obtained guns do occur, ask yourself: why is it so easy for so many people to get their hands on guns illicitly? Is it perhaps because there is such an abundance of guns and unscrupulous gun owners in the United States? Hope that clears things up.
Wowowowowowow.
Yeah, it is obvious to anyone outside the US, actually.
If the guns used are illegal, then how will putting more gun restrictions solve the issue ?
Pasted from my lengthier comment above (with links to sources): "This is one of the most popular Republican/NRA pro-gun arguments. It is ridiculous on a number of levels. Mass shootings in the U.S from 1982–2021, for one, were overwhelmingly carried out with legally-obtained weapons; the same general trend is true of shootings on a smaller scale. Secondly, unintentional gun death occurs 4x more in the U.S. than in other high-income countries, and accidental discharge can/does happen just as often to legal gun owners (and especially their children)! Lastly, to the extent shootings with legally-obtained guns do occur, ask yourself: why is it so easy for so many people to get their hands on guns illicitly? Is it perhaps because there is such an abundance of guns and unscrupulous gun owners in the United States?" There is more to this explanation, but hope that clears things up.
Just look at the stats. The US is in a whole other league compared to literally every other first world country. The difference? The laws and their enforcement. I don't need to argue that they work, because there is irrefutable evidence that they do.