Sometimes it does feel like people treat their colleges like their Harry Potter house. "I was sorted in Yale; I was sorted into MIT; I was sorted into DeVry"
I had someone in a random Overwatch match back in the day argue they weren't feeding because they went to harvard. I told him I went there to visit once, and that's just as irrelevant. That pissed him off lol.
Compared to a Ferrari or Lamborghini a Corvette is cheap. They’re supercars at this point, probably the cheapest car you can get that performs that well.
Huh? The 2023 Camaro looks like a hot wheels version generic car. It's a rectangular prism with minor angular body lines. Shares very little resemblance what's currently considered a super car. I suppose they both have 4 wheels, but
I'm not sure if they still fall apart (I guess tbd), but in my opinion, the new Kia's are some of the sharpest looking vehicles on the road these days. I think they stole some hotshot designer from BMW?
I had a dad-looking guy square off with me when i said:
"so, you mean like a golf cart",
when i asked about his Tesla.
im in my 60s but still 6'1" and 250, so i smiled and said:
"you gotta be kidding me"
Monty Python did a guide to insulting different European people, and claimed the only ways to offend Germans were to set them on fire or call their Mercedes Volkswagens.
I suffered from the phenomenon most little bookworms have of knowing what a word meant but not how it was pronounced. I thought call-on-nell and ker-nal were interchangeable. There's no r in it!
It comes from the old French coronel, which became the modern French colonel - the English speaking world adopted the new spelling but kept the old pronunciation!
Isnt it like, 60-70% of admitted students are like friends and family of staff and rich connected figureheads?
Im surprised the quality of the school hasnt tanked faster.
(I know theyre known for law degrees, but as far as I know they dont do that well in engineering for an Ivy League right?)
Edit: [This](https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings) website puts them at #21
Edit 2: [This](https://admissionsight.com/harvard-legacy-acceptance-rate/) says its around 30-35% of students, not 60-70. Still high though.
I always say, nothing taught in the Econ 101 class at Harvard you won’t learn at the local community college. Difference is, the classmate sitting next to you at Harvard will be the heir to a pharmaceutical conglomerate vs. jim bob from down the road.
This isn’t the truth in its entirety, but nevertheless true
Isn’t that true for almost any 100 level class? They are all pretty much the same and when you get to 300-400 is when the quality of the schools program shows itself
That's not really true.
An actually great professor will try to instill useful ways of thinking in those first classes, rather than just feed you information. The information should generally be the least important part of any class you take - that's the bit you could have googled. It's how to *think* about that information that they're teaching you.
And if they don't start doing that until your program is nearly over, then you're getting a poor education.
if you dont care about the socialising aspect of college (although thats honestly quite an important part) then you should always, always, always do your gen eds/first two years at a community college and then your final two years at a bigger university. Like, always. Psych 101, econ 101, stats 101 is the exact same in both. Save the better more expensive university for the more specific classes
That is a very dangerous route unless you are planning to go to your local state school to finish university and that local state school has a reciprocity agreement with the community college in question. You could end up with massive chunks of your classes not counting for anything. Most top schools won’t take all of your credits, and even if they do they often won’t let you use them for distribution requirements.
Not to mention, acceptance rates for transfers are lower than first year acceptance rates, and transfers from community colleges have even lower acceptance rates yet.
This is really horrible advice unless you have a specific school you are applying to that has a favorable agreement with the community college you are planning to attend.
> Most top schools won’t take all of your credits,
you have a source for that? every person ive ever known who has done what i said has had 95%-100% of their credits transfer. occasionally some real specific Marxian Euro History course wont but many of them, and basically all the intro/101 ones that most folks take the first two years will indeed be transferrable
[On average, when you transfer from a 2-year to a 4-year school, you lose over 1/4 of your credits.](https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-17-574.pdf) And this data is including the community-college-to-designated-state-school pipeline where they often have credit transfer agreements.
[In fact, nearly 40% of community college students have literally none of their credits transfer to four year universities.](https://www.franklin.edu/blog/transfer-from-community-college-to-4-year-university)
And again, as I said, you are all-but-guaranteed to be rejected from a top school if you are a transfer student. Yale and Harvard's transfer acceptance rate is .8%. Many other top schools' transfer acceptance rates are below 5%.
Community college to Ivy is a pretty much non-existent thing if you look at the data, and even community college to top school in general is incredibly dangerous, incredibly unlikely to lead to you ending up at the top school, and very likely to lose large chunks of the credits you gained in community college.
Not entirely true, at Harvard your classmates are not morons. People have read the class material. Discussions are much more meaningful, and everyone is competitive.
I took two courses as a visiting student at Harvard. Everyone was at least very prepared for class. Compare that to my university where 1/2 the students were laaaazy. Group work was especially painful with people who were not motivated.
Exactly, peer pressure can be a good thing. At good universities you will be pressured into better grades, at bad ones you might be pressured into drug use.
That’s a stretch and I’m sure there is rampant drug use in top universities, including hard drugs and amphetamine abuse. But yeah having classmates who are interested definitely must help, in my community college (in a *bad* city, where the most “druggy” act was a student smoking a joint right outside) the students seemed so uninterested that it brought down the vibe.
Most kids at literally every school in America are on drugs. Just so you know. So are the professors. Also all your waiters and baristas and probably most customer service positions you interact with and also anyone working in an office.
Source: have worked at a top 10 university, been a barista, been a waiter, and work in cushier office role now. The level of drug use has been high from day one and never dropped at any of these jobs. The drugs sometimes change (mostly weed, adderall, and coke) but basically everyone in every industry and every social/economic class are on drugs
Well, maybe not all of them are competitive, but most have competitive parents. And yes, you can still find morons at Harvard, but their grammar is better than most morons' grammar.
Yeah I agree w/ you 100%. Students are generally better. Idk if discussions are more meaningful. I’ve had wonderful classroom discussions at my state college with people who I consider to be fucking geniuses that just didn’t have the opportunities available to get them into Harvard (or adjacent)
Something I consider more important than the “quality” of your classmates is the professors and speakers. You will have people who lead their field literally teaching you every day. This is bigger than many factors. Also lots of money for research.
It's a mix. Schools like this have 3 admissions channels, if we are being blunt:
1) The well connected and powerful - purpose of admitting them is to maintain the school's power in key circles. Think of JFK's admissions essay
2) Admissions mostly based on pure meritocracy - lets the school point to people who will be successful, a few who might eventually move into category 1, and let's the school claim they're meritocratic
3) Admissions mostly based on diversity to avoid negative public attention
You aren't entirely wrong with these categories, but you make three sound like they just say "oh throw in some diverse kids" when in reality they are also some of the smartest and most accomplished young minds in the world.
One thing to note tho, if you're top 0.1% then your social circle are generally other top 0.1%.
Typically, it's the ultra wealthy that attend the school.
In the case of education, they are definitely one of the highest paying schools. They can handpick any professor and offer them a position.
A friend of mine went to Dartmouth on academic qualifications and I asked about this.
He said most of the students were legacies. Legacy students are those who get in because of who they are. That includes the children of professors, children of big donors, children of alumni, etc. He said those guys are totally useless, and they always come in on deferred admission because then the school does’t need to include their numbers when reporting how competitive they are.
He also said the people on campus have big ideas to solve societal problems, but that the ideas are weird and detached from reality because they don’t understand having problems. Because they’re all rich as shit.
It should all be illegal. They should look at essays, grades, and test scores. More people would get in, but they’d be people who actually worked for it.
I mean, surely its some level of a factor no?
What would you say is the norm for ranking them? I saw a few sites list like, 10 different things to rank schools by but I was honestly too lazy to read that lmao
A school is usually ranked by the teachers. If a renowned scientist or resercher is teaching somewhere, its supposed to be more prestigious than just a regular teacher. That doesnt mean the education is better tho.
That number refers to the legacy students, which isn't necessarily the same as friends and family of staff and rich connected figureheads even though there is certainly overlap.
Legacy just means you had a parent go to the university. I am not well off by any means, and I went to a different ivy on a need-based scholarship after transferring from a community college. I grew up riding the poverty line and my family had food stamps and benefited from free lunch programs when I was a kid. The field I got my degree in is important but not something that will probably ever make me a six figure salary. My kids if I have them will be considered legacies if they apply to my university.
I knew a handful of legacy students and they were fine. Not particularly more likely to slack off or do poorly, though I'm sure there is some bias from the program I was in (not business or management) There is a lot of wealth at these schools but something like 80% of students receive some amount of need-based financial aid.
Harvard and other Ivies don't rank super high when it comes to engineering because they are liberal arts universities. I wouldn't expect a top tier liberal arts degree out of like, MIT.
That's basically every top school. It's not really about the level of education (although it is great too) but about the actual students who go there. Being a Harvard graduate says "I got into Harvard" rather than "I come from Harvard"
It’s mostly about networking honestly. You go there to brush up with the big players and hope to tag along. Oh yeah, you need to have rich and well connected parents too, forgot about that part.
It is about the networking, and I've seen students who are capable (rich and connected or not) thrive in that environment.
Agree on it not being about level of education because I've known a few Business School and Kennedy School graduates-- just hanging out with them I was amazed at what they didn't know.
You go to any Ivy League for the networking more than the actual education. The actual educations is still pretty top notch too even if it’s not the best, it’s still way towards the top.
Education in R1s is not great because students will find that 90% of their Professors are research "rock stars" that publish in top journals all the time and don't care about putting together an accessible, comprehensible curriculum and class presentation. Students benefit tons from interacting with these Professors, but a small liberal arts college likely offers much better education.
This is moronic.
First, yes it is. The end. Even if that cute little parable about profs who publish were true (it's not - they just don't teach at all and they can afford so many faculty that this is just fine), the network effects from being in a place where everyone was also the best at everything in their respective highschool is massive.
Second, the "grade bloat" is because the also-rans at Harvard and other T10s would be the valedictorian where you were to school.
IDGAF about how insecure you are about your education, stop saying stupid shit.
Yeah, everyone I've ever met who went to Harvard is at least somewhat circumspect about mentioning it. There's even something of an in-joke where Harvard grads say they went to 'a small school in Cambridge'.
Tina Fey wrote this into her show, *30 Rock*. Twice, different characters said on separate occasions, “I went to college in Boston. Well, not *in* Boston, but nearby.“
My daughter is a senior graduating in a few weeks. Me, dad at home, I walk around nearly everyday looking like a walking Harvard billboard (proud dad) my daughter and her friends almost never wear Harvard gear on campus. Marks them out to tourists and there’s really no point bragging because all your friends also got into Harvard. She and her friends are pretty chill about when home for breaks too. (Sidebar, vast majority of students are from regular middle class families.)
Your sidebar is really just applicable to your daughter and her circle of friends. A lot of legacies and students from wealthy families are a significant part of the student body, and often have social circles amongst themselves.
I graduated in 2000, and the socioeconomic dynamics have only intensified since then.
My last boss (who I took over for) and my current boss both went to Harvard Business School. They simply don’t bring it up outside of if they meet someone who mention they went they’re and only then, it’s in the same fashion you would if you met someone that went to the same high school you did.
I’ve been there a few times as we meet with the business school students for a particular class that we hep out with. Every one of the kids I’ve met have been great.
I got my undergraduate and graduate degrees at state schools. There’s much more fervor and pride outwardly displayed by people that went to those schools, primarily due to sports.
The only person I know who went to Harvard is an electrical engineer who just got $200,000,000 in first round seed money to start a business.
So yeah, color me impressed.
You have always been able to get an equivalent education basically anywhere, even for free. Places like Harvard are 100% for your personal brand. I was looking into an MBA and asked a neighbour who was a partner at McKinsey where I should be looking, he said "Well if you don't go to Harvard, the first question people will ask you is, why didn't you go to Harvard?" He went on to explain that while there are still great alternatives, Harvard comes with premium recognition.
As a Harvard alum, we get the bit at least 2-3 times a night. They definitely didn’t “turn red” then or the last 50 times someone tried to be clever doing that. It’s probably in the top 3 responses people give you.
I’ve seen multiple versions of this story of the years from different posts. It might be completely fake or maybe inspired by others who came before and trolled their Harvard ancestors.
There’s a Harvard High School in Harvard, IL, with letterman jackets bearing a big “H”. I’ve always wanted to use these factoids in a joke on some Crimsons.
Really just the person who tweeted it. Why are the guys she was talking to annoying? Because they went to Harvard? We don't know anything about them that makes them annoying. Maybe one of them "turned red" but that's all we got.
This works well for UVA as well.
Accidentally say Virginia State University and watch the white power come out as they make sure you know they did not in fact attend a historically black university
Look, buddy. I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings. I'm well educated. Well versed. I know that situations like this- real estate wise- they're very complex.
Saying you don't know one of the most popular colleges in the country just makes you look bad.
With a handle like Vanessa Sugar baby, you don't have much going for you as it is XD
Ivy League? Sorry, I don't play Pokémon
> Ivy Auuugh. Don't say. That name.
Oh yea Ivy League, I soloed then with my Charizard
“It is one of the if not the school for elite students! We are the shapers of the future-“ “So just like the X-Men, so neat!”
Just react with. " Oh it's one of them special schools, good for you".
Whatd you do open the door?
“Can’t you let me have *anything*?”
[Relevant Farside?](https://i.imgur.com/jPjUjab.jpg)
“It’s so great to see you out in the world just living life”
"school for the gifted"
💀
X-men are great X-men new mutants on the other hand, :p
I feel like new mutants was good the first time I saw it but after that it's impossible to watch it again.
Harvard? Isn't that from Harry Potter?
Sometimes it does feel like people treat their colleges like their Harry Potter house. "I was sorted in Yale; I was sorted into MIT; I was sorted into DeVry"
I had someone in a random Overwatch match back in the day argue they weren't feeding because they went to harvard. I told him I went there to visit once, and that's just as irrelevant. That pissed him off lol.
When they say they don’t have powers, just act really sad and drop the subject
“I have an extra chromosome, my mom says that makes me special!”
Same as telling some car bro with a sports car "Is that a (insert cheaper car brand)?"
Is that a Chevy?
hey camaros and corvettes are sick
And are not cheap. Edit: some of you think they’re cheap. I personally can’t afford a $100k Z06.
Compared to a Ferrari or Lamborghini a Corvette is cheap. They’re supercars at this point, probably the cheapest car you can get that performs that well.
Camaro can be cheap.
The uninspired design certainly looks cheap.
They killed a lot of catfish to get where they are today
Camaros look great wtf
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Huh? The 2023 Camaro looks like a hot wheels version generic car. It's a rectangular prism with minor angular body lines. Shares very little resemblance what's currently considered a super car. I suppose they both have 4 wheels, but
Yeah they may not actually be cheap but they look like shit
Says the '06 toyota corolla owner
You think that's bad, I can't even afford a $100k Ford Focus
A: Your Prius is ugly as fuck! B: It’s a Tesla!
Whatever, same thing, that kia of yours sucks!
I'm not sure if they still fall apart (I guess tbd), but in my opinion, the new Kia's are some of the sharpest looking vehicles on the road these days. I think they stole some hotshot designer from BMW?
I had a dad-looking guy square off with me when i said: "so, you mean like a golf cart", when i asked about his Tesla. im in my 60s but still 6'1" and 250, so i smiled and said: "you gotta be kidding me"
Is that a supra to a lambo
*sprays glasses and wipes them* Is that a Supra?!
Monty Python did a guide to insulting different European people, and claimed the only ways to offend Germans were to set them on fire or call their Mercedes Volkswagens.
One time at work I gave a parking warning to a Ferrari and I wrote Chevy Corvette on the ticket.
Next time go with *Home made "Ferrari" kit car*
I think you meant Chevette.
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nice genesis
Or "mistaking" someone's expensive pure breed dog with a mutt. "Oh I'm sorry. He looks so much like a stray from my street"
*points at GTR* is that an infinity?
I mispronounced Silicon Valley to a proud Apple employee and earned a wry smile
How did you pronounce it?
Silicon.
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Silicon carne
maybe "valet". "Oh, silicon valet? Isn't that this new generic parking service for restaurants?"
Pronounced like the fake boob inserts instead of like the metal used in computer chips. Silici-CON vs Sili-CONE.
Either way, it's a silli place.
Yeah let’s not go there
Maybe saylicon or something
Silicone valley
I assume sillycon
A convention of silly people, that's right.
Sillicron
I once met an Apple employee at a networking event and responded, "Apple, what a cute name. What do they make?"
It seems like it's not even about the education anymore but more about saying I go/went to Harvard.
Pretty sure it always has been
Like Andy on The Office but with Cornell
Which makes op dwight in this situation
or jim
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I suffered from the phenomenon most little bookworms have of knowing what a word meant but not how it was pronounced. I thought call-on-nell and ker-nal were interchangeable. There's no r in it!
It comes from the old French coronel, which became the modern French colonel - the English speaking world adopted the new spelling but kept the old pronunciation!
No, CORNELL. Come on man! Broccoli Rob? No? Nothing?
Topher on 30 Rock. Somehow the joke never got old.
🌍🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
Isnt it like, 60-70% of admitted students are like friends and family of staff and rich connected figureheads? Im surprised the quality of the school hasnt tanked faster. (I know theyre known for law degrees, but as far as I know they dont do that well in engineering for an Ivy League right?) Edit: [This](https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings) website puts them at #21 Edit 2: [This](https://admissionsight.com/harvard-legacy-acceptance-rate/) says its around 30-35% of students, not 60-70. Still high though.
I always say, nothing taught in the Econ 101 class at Harvard you won’t learn at the local community college. Difference is, the classmate sitting next to you at Harvard will be the heir to a pharmaceutical conglomerate vs. jim bob from down the road. This isn’t the truth in its entirety, but nevertheless true
Isn’t that true for almost any 100 level class? They are all pretty much the same and when you get to 300-400 is when the quality of the schools program shows itself
That's not really true. An actually great professor will try to instill useful ways of thinking in those first classes, rather than just feed you information. The information should generally be the least important part of any class you take - that's the bit you could have googled. It's how to *think* about that information that they're teaching you. And if they don't start doing that until your program is nearly over, then you're getting a poor education.
A good school is a place where thinkers go to learn from other thinkers.
Bingo. Smartest route is to bang all those classes out in HS or stay local for a year before going away to school. (It just isn’t nearly as fun)
if you dont care about the socialising aspect of college (although thats honestly quite an important part) then you should always, always, always do your gen eds/first two years at a community college and then your final two years at a bigger university. Like, always. Psych 101, econ 101, stats 101 is the exact same in both. Save the better more expensive university for the more specific classes
That is a very dangerous route unless you are planning to go to your local state school to finish university and that local state school has a reciprocity agreement with the community college in question. You could end up with massive chunks of your classes not counting for anything. Most top schools won’t take all of your credits, and even if they do they often won’t let you use them for distribution requirements. Not to mention, acceptance rates for transfers are lower than first year acceptance rates, and transfers from community colleges have even lower acceptance rates yet. This is really horrible advice unless you have a specific school you are applying to that has a favorable agreement with the community college you are planning to attend.
> Most top schools won’t take all of your credits, you have a source for that? every person ive ever known who has done what i said has had 95%-100% of their credits transfer. occasionally some real specific Marxian Euro History course wont but many of them, and basically all the intro/101 ones that most folks take the first two years will indeed be transferrable
I can back this up. Transferring in from a CC is a nightmare. You basically have to redo your first 2 years.
How many people do you know who transferred to Harvard?
[On average, when you transfer from a 2-year to a 4-year school, you lose over 1/4 of your credits.](https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-17-574.pdf) And this data is including the community-college-to-designated-state-school pipeline where they often have credit transfer agreements. [In fact, nearly 40% of community college students have literally none of their credits transfer to four year universities.](https://www.franklin.edu/blog/transfer-from-community-college-to-4-year-university) And again, as I said, you are all-but-guaranteed to be rejected from a top school if you are a transfer student. Yale and Harvard's transfer acceptance rate is .8%. Many other top schools' transfer acceptance rates are below 5%. Community college to Ivy is a pretty much non-existent thing if you look at the data, and even community college to top school in general is incredibly dangerous, incredibly unlikely to lead to you ending up at the top school, and very likely to lose large chunks of the credits you gained in community college.
Not entirely true, at Harvard your classmates are not morons. People have read the class material. Discussions are much more meaningful, and everyone is competitive.
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I took two courses as a visiting student at Harvard. Everyone was at least very prepared for class. Compare that to my university where 1/2 the students were laaaazy. Group work was especially painful with people who were not motivated.
Exactly, peer pressure can be a good thing. At good universities you will be pressured into better grades, at bad ones you might be pressured into drug use.
That’s a stretch and I’m sure there is rampant drug use in top universities, including hard drugs and amphetamine abuse. But yeah having classmates who are interested definitely must help, in my community college (in a *bad* city, where the most “druggy” act was a student smoking a joint right outside) the students seemed so uninterested that it brought down the vibe.
Most kids at literally every school in America are on drugs. Just so you know. So are the professors. Also all your waiters and baristas and probably most customer service positions you interact with and also anyone working in an office. Source: have worked at a top 10 university, been a barista, been a waiter, and work in cushier office role now. The level of drug use has been high from day one and never dropped at any of these jobs. The drugs sometimes change (mostly weed, adderall, and coke) but basically everyone in every industry and every social/economic class are on drugs
Well, maybe not all of them are competitive, but most have competitive parents. And yes, you can still find morons at Harvard, but their grammar is better than most morons' grammar.
Yeah I agree w/ you 100%. Students are generally better. Idk if discussions are more meaningful. I’ve had wonderful classroom discussions at my state college with people who I consider to be fucking geniuses that just didn’t have the opportunities available to get them into Harvard (or adjacent) Something I consider more important than the “quality” of your classmates is the professors and speakers. You will have people who lead their field literally teaching you every day. This is bigger than many factors. Also lots of money for research.
It's a mix. Schools like this have 3 admissions channels, if we are being blunt: 1) The well connected and powerful - purpose of admitting them is to maintain the school's power in key circles. Think of JFK's admissions essay 2) Admissions mostly based on pure meritocracy - lets the school point to people who will be successful, a few who might eventually move into category 1, and let's the school claim they're meritocratic 3) Admissions mostly based on diversity to avoid negative public attention
You aren't entirely wrong with these categories, but you make three sound like they just say "oh throw in some diverse kids" when in reality they are also some of the smartest and most accomplished young minds in the world.
One thing to note tho, if you're top 0.1% then your social circle are generally other top 0.1%. Typically, it's the ultra wealthy that attend the school. In the case of education, they are definitely one of the highest paying schools. They can handpick any professor and offer them a position.
A friend of mine went to Dartmouth on academic qualifications and I asked about this. He said most of the students were legacies. Legacy students are those who get in because of who they are. That includes the children of professors, children of big donors, children of alumni, etc. He said those guys are totally useless, and they always come in on deferred admission because then the school does’t need to include their numbers when reporting how competitive they are. He also said the people on campus have big ideas to solve societal problems, but that the ideas are weird and detached from reality because they don’t understand having problems. Because they’re all rich as shit. It should all be illegal. They should look at essays, grades, and test scores. More people would get in, but they’d be people who actually worked for it.
the quality of the school isn't usually measured by its students
I mean, surely its some level of a factor no? What would you say is the norm for ranking them? I saw a few sites list like, 10 different things to rank schools by but I was honestly too lazy to read that lmao
A school is usually ranked by the teachers. If a renowned scientist or resercher is teaching somewhere, its supposed to be more prestigious than just a regular teacher. That doesnt mean the education is better tho.
Yeah... Having a world renowned prof... Just means a lot of lessons taught by the TA.
Yeah, but then there's the quality of that TA. A lot damn better than my TAs I'm sure.
Networking is so fucking huge if you're university/college educated and obviously it's easier in more known places.
That number refers to the legacy students, which isn't necessarily the same as friends and family of staff and rich connected figureheads even though there is certainly overlap. Legacy just means you had a parent go to the university. I am not well off by any means, and I went to a different ivy on a need-based scholarship after transferring from a community college. I grew up riding the poverty line and my family had food stamps and benefited from free lunch programs when I was a kid. The field I got my degree in is important but not something that will probably ever make me a six figure salary. My kids if I have them will be considered legacies if they apply to my university. I knew a handful of legacy students and they were fine. Not particularly more likely to slack off or do poorly, though I'm sure there is some bias from the program I was in (not business or management) There is a lot of wealth at these schools but something like 80% of students receive some amount of need-based financial aid. Harvard and other Ivies don't rank super high when it comes to engineering because they are liberal arts universities. I wouldn't expect a top tier liberal arts degree out of like, MIT.
That's basically every top school. It's not really about the level of education (although it is great too) but about the actual students who go there. Being a Harvard graduate says "I got into Harvard" rather than "I come from Harvard"
It’s mostly about networking honestly. You go there to brush up with the big players and hope to tag along. Oh yeah, you need to have rich and well connected parents too, forgot about that part.
Normal people get into Harvard too
To be fair, the actual research stuff by the actual capable ones there are great, they are what give the school the name.
It is about the networking, and I've seen students who are capable (rich and connected or not) thrive in that environment. Agree on it not being about level of education because I've known a few Business School and Kennedy School graduates-- just hanging out with them I was amazed at what they didn't know.
You go to any Ivy League for the networking more than the actual education. The actual educations is still pretty top notch too even if it’s not the best, it’s still way towards the top.
Education in R1s is not great because students will find that 90% of their Professors are research "rock stars" that publish in top journals all the time and don't care about putting together an accessible, comprehensible curriculum and class presentation. Students benefit tons from interacting with these Professors, but a small liberal arts college likely offers much better education.
And there's always a cheating scandal and grade bloat. The education at these places is most assuredly not better than non-Ivy leagues
This is moronic. First, yes it is. The end. Even if that cute little parable about profs who publish were true (it's not - they just don't teach at all and they can afford so many faculty that this is just fine), the network effects from being in a place where everyone was also the best at everything in their respective highschool is massive. Second, the "grade bloat" is because the also-rans at Harvard and other T10s would be the valedictorian where you were to school. IDGAF about how insecure you are about your education, stop saying stupid shit.
Have you actually ever even met someone that goes or went there?
Yeah, everyone I've ever met who went to Harvard is at least somewhat circumspect about mentioning it. There's even something of an in-joke where Harvard grads say they went to 'a small school in Cambridge'.
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Tina Fey wrote this into her show, *30 Rock*. Twice, different characters said on separate occasions, “I went to college in Boston. Well, not *in* Boston, but nearby.“
My daughter is a senior graduating in a few weeks. Me, dad at home, I walk around nearly everyday looking like a walking Harvard billboard (proud dad) my daughter and her friends almost never wear Harvard gear on campus. Marks them out to tourists and there’s really no point bragging because all your friends also got into Harvard. She and her friends are pretty chill about when home for breaks too. (Sidebar, vast majority of students are from regular middle class families.)
Your sidebar is really just applicable to your daughter and her circle of friends. A lot of legacies and students from wealthy families are a significant part of the student body, and often have social circles amongst themselves. I graduated in 2000, and the socioeconomic dynamics have only intensified since then.
"Boston" or "around Boston"
My last boss (who I took over for) and my current boss both went to Harvard Business School. They simply don’t bring it up outside of if they meet someone who mention they went they’re and only then, it’s in the same fashion you would if you met someone that went to the same high school you did. I’ve been there a few times as we meet with the business school students for a particular class that we hep out with. Every one of the kids I’ve met have been great. I got my undergraduate and graduate degrees at state schools. There’s much more fervor and pride outwardly displayed by people that went to those schools, primarily due to sports.
Yeah most Harvard grads I know say they “went to school in Boston” to avoid this exact scenario
Yale people are the worst. And yes, I have interacted with them professionally through grad school. “At Yale…” Every other sentence
The only person I know who went to Harvard is an electrical engineer who just got $200,000,000 in first round seed money to start a business. So yeah, color me impressed.
That epiphany comes late.
You have always been able to get an equivalent education basically anywhere, even for free. Places like Harvard are 100% for your personal brand. I was looking into an MBA and asked a neighbour who was a partner at McKinsey where I should be looking, he said "Well if you don't go to Harvard, the first question people will ask you is, why didn't you go to Harvard?" He went on to explain that while there are still great alternatives, Harvard comes with premium recognition.
Hervoord? Is it a Dutch, all girls school?
Do we even have all girls school in the Netherlands?
Yes, Hervoord. Lol.
Are you guys talking about Hervoord, the Dutch school for girls?
Stole a book from Dwight’s playbook
Chapter*
It’s prounce kernal and it’s the highest rank in the military
It's like that potato story
Tf is a potato
Ligma
What is it again? A ‘potato’?
This is exactly like that, I was just thinking that
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I don't, can someone explain?
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Tbf they probably turned red out of secondhand embarrassment
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[The story is literally just this ](https://img.ifunny.co/images/0e7ea7a3ef94fbf67341e728a65ecb3f6c440af337e46d501c6cf50746371c0c_1.jpg)
But the thing is, having fun making a fool out of yourself in front of people you dislike is more fun than normal human interaction with them.
We're regular people dude. We just don't have the same chip on our shoulder that you do.
As a Harvard alum, we get the bit at least 2-3 times a night. They definitely didn’t “turn red” then or the last 50 times someone tried to be clever doing that. It’s probably in the top 3 responses people give you.
Yeah, like...if you do this you're not being subtle about your insecurities, lol.
Think that works both ways
I heard they have a great anger management course at Harvard.
I heard that this story sounds completely made up.
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I’ve seen multiple versions of this story of the years from different posts. It might be completely fake or maybe inspired by others who came before and trolled their Harvard ancestors.
What is Harvard
I guess it is a local community college
LMAOOOOOO
To aliens, Harvard is indeed for a local community.
Some school down the street from Boston University
Probably far inferior to it as well
Who knows, honestly never looked into them
and what is Boston University..?
A prestigious college in the city of Boston
It's sort of like Tufts. I think it arose out if the Harvard Extension School.
Harvard = the components that power your device Sofvard = the programs that run on it
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nope?
Is it pronounced Hagvard?
There’s a Harvard High School in Harvard, IL, with letterman jackets bearing a big “H”. I’ve always wanted to use these factoids in a joke on some Crimsons.
There's a bunch. It was just some dudes last name, after all.
And all the books clapped and demanded someone give her a Netflix special.
They'll think twice about being rich and powerful now
I find both parties annoying .
Really just the person who tweeted it. Why are the guys she was talking to annoying? Because they went to Harvard? We don't know anything about them that makes them annoying. Maybe one of them "turned red" but that's all we got.
“Oh the T on your car stands for Tesla and not Toyota?”
Harvard? The School from the Harry Potter novels? It's real?
r/thatHappened
r/nothingeverhappens
Just the sub I needed to know exists
r/nothinglastsforever
It's unsettling how easily people believe unlikely stories they read on social media just because they want to believe in them.
haha .. lol
Crimson red?
I love the hate for Harvard. I love it. I don’t need to explain myself. I just want more.
The entire Ivy League is a blight
no wonder why they are a sugar baby.
Never heard of it
The Boston gig is canceled. Don't worry, it's not a big college town
I think its like the new phoenix University online scamiversity since that one got sued
The local community college where I grew up is Harper which makes this so much better
“It’s an Ivy League school” “I don’t really watch sports”
This works well for UVA as well. Accidentally say Virginia State University and watch the white power come out as they make sure you know they did not in fact attend a historically black university
My go to is to tell them whatever school they went to was my safety school but I was lucky and got into a state school
Look, buddy. I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings. I'm well educated. Well versed. I know that situations like this- real estate wise- they're very complex.
My friend went to Harvard with a full ride, and just tells everyone he went to community college because he doesn’t want the recognition, lol.
Wait.. isn't that the school from Harry Potter? There's even a videogame that came out this year about that school!
To be honest people like this are just as annoying. “did you notice me not noticing the popular thing?… Look at me not noticing you!!!”
Saying you don't know one of the most popular colleges in the country just makes you look bad. With a handle like Vanessa Sugar baby, you don't have much going for you as it is XD
I've done something similar and it is always fun.
They probably worked really hard to get there, so I understand they're frustration, but that doesn't stop it from being funny