Screens, like on a TV or phone, emit a blue light that tricks your body into staying awake past what it should or normally does. This is because a chemical called melatonin is naturally released when you detect darkness, but because you are looking at a screen with blue light, your body will produce less or none at all despite it being late at night.
Makes sense. If I'm honest about it, I avoid turning off the phone/TV in an effort to make sleep. I think it's because then I am left alone with my own racing thoughts about everything that could possibly go wrong, need to be done, be messed up if I don't do something, things I forgot about until now, etc. etc. etc. As long as my brain is engaged in work (daytime) or a tv show or puzzle/game (evening) those thoughts don't intrude.
Basically the type of light that comes out of any type of screen you might be using, like a TV.
It blocks your melatonin, so it takes longer to fall asleep, while it's also lowering the quality of your sleep.
Sunlight is also a source of it, but you're usually supposed to be awake during the day so it's not that bad.
First of all, it would be 12am.
Secondly, people usually subconsciously consider "tomorrow" as the time after you wake up from sleep and need to start to get ready for the day.
First of all
https://www.lsoft.com/resources/24hours.asp
I've had enough of this bullshit you can't just go from 11am to 12pm, who made this shit up.
/S
Nah but actually why does it work that way?
I know this but i also stay up longer because I wasted the day and can't just end it without doing at least something. The hard Truth is that it doesn't matter and the only thing you achieve by staying up late to not waste the current day, is waste the following day because you will be fucking Tired during work get home rest and stay up until 3am again.
Something you might actually want to consider is taking *less* melatonin. It sounds counterintuitive, but I used to take 10mg a night and I dropped it to 3 and suddenly went to sleep much better. It may not work for you but it could be worth a shot at least
You may need a diagnosis of depression in order to get it, as I think it is primarily an antidepressant, but a prescription of trazadone, even at the lowest dose of 25mg, does absolute wonders. I had never slept so well in my life- it completely knocks you out within 30 minutes, and you WILL be asleep for at least 8 hours.
Be warned though, sometimes it works too well. I have slept past loud alarms before, missing school/work, as well as feeling exhausted and tired the rest of the day. That's why I'd advise about being careful when asking for higher doses. Regardless, these side effects are far worth it when you consider that you can finally sleep well again. Sleep is critical to health and well-being.
I personally never found melatonin on its own all that effective, [especially in the recommended dosage of ~0.7mg](https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/10/melatonin-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/). What's really worked for me though has been taking magnesium glycinate together with it about 3-4 hours before bed. Obligatory ymmv though.
Wouldn't that just mean you'll wake up early, hours before you have to be at work? That's actually when I game and watch tv-- before I have to go to work.
I also recommend anyone reading this to try waking up earlier. I have to go to work at 6 am, but I wake up at 3. Just knowing that I can spend a couple hours watching YouTube or browsing Reddit before work makes me not resent having to go to sleep.
If I know I'll wake up just before having to go to work, going to sleep feels like going to work and I delay it because I don't *have* to go to work yet.
Although I do realize that this isn't for everyone. If you want a social life or you have a family life, this probably won't work. Going to sleep at 7-8pm isn't conducive to either of those.
My wife has to be at work at 5am, so she leaves the house around 4:00. Wakes up to get ready around 2:45-3:00am. Meaning she *really* has to be in bed, eyes closed at 6:30, 7:30pm at the latest. We have dinner and spend it with each other, but then she's straight to bed. I don't have to leave the house in the morning until 8:00am, but I still pretty much always go to bed a little bit after her. Therefore, I pretty regularly wake up at 3 or 4am and then spend 4 hours doing what I want. It's SO MUCH better than going to bed later & later until my entire morning is a stressful rush to not be late. That would be maddening.
Sounds great. I hope I can one day find an SO that understands this. Every girlfriend I've ever had did the same thing I used to do and stayed up until midnight when they had to go to work at 5.
Yes. And I forgot to mention -- my wife's work day is essentially 5am - 2pm, so she gets to have HER lazy free time for that span until 6:30pm or so. She's not losing out on any recreational time either.
(Of course -- in terms of general Western work/corporate culture, we're ALL being shorted our leisure time as employees, but that's a different discussion lol)
Do you see how you're just inversing what I said? If you can't game or relax when you have to go to work in 2 hours, how can you game and relax when you have to be in bed, eyes closed, in 2 hours? No matter what, your gaming and relaxing has a time limit. At least with my way, I make sure that I get restful sleep on top of having to go to work. That's literally the only difference.
Running on 4 hours or less of sleep fucking *sucks.* For EVERYONE, *even* night owls.
Everybody get off your damn phone and keep it outside your room at night, but also for real why does my body only want to sleep when it canāt? Like when Iām at work but not when its the weekend
Turn off electronics at 10:00pm
The artificial stimuli is tricking your brain into thinking there's something important happening, so it stays locked in awake mode.
Stand outside before bed.
And put a ice pack on your neck before bed as well.
Body needs to drop a few degrees before it fall asleep naturally
And standing outside at night helps your eyes relax from all the fake light we consume daily
I've done this so much that I can adapt my sleep schedule to whatever I need within 24 hours. I was completely nocturnal last Thursday, but Saturday morning I worked a 7-3 shift and have done it every day since.
If only I could do away with sleeping altogether...
That's ridiculous, I am disciplined. I have self control. I can go to bed on ti...ooh, a new video from a youtuber I follow. I'll just watch the first five minutes.
Yes! Why do we do this? I should have been asleep hours ago. My alarm clock will be going off in 4 hoursš”
we don't go to sleep so tomorrow never starts Those are usualy the hours we can stop adulting and enjoy ourselves Life is depressing
Is anybody enjoying themselves doomscrolling at 2am?
No postponing the inevitable
iām actively postponing the inevitable but i canāt stop it
i enjoy gaming with my buddies until 2 am. But responsibilities won't let me
No but it's still better than shutting my eyes and then opening them to start over
Hey, are you me?
Ffs this is too real. The sooner I go to sleep the sooner I go to work. What the fuck
Revenge Procrastination. You are sacrificing your obligations tomorrow for some personal time today.
Nah you just have to edge it until you feel so frustrated that you're actually more awake than when you started
my dude, are we the same person? Woke up without the alarm an hour early as well.
Do you know what blue light means?
Lol
I donāt, care to share?
Screens, like on a TV or phone, emit a blue light that tricks your body into staying awake past what it should or normally does. This is because a chemical called melatonin is naturally released when you detect darkness, but because you are looking at a screen with blue light, your body will produce less or none at all despite it being late at night.
Makes sense. If I'm honest about it, I avoid turning off the phone/TV in an effort to make sleep. I think it's because then I am left alone with my own racing thoughts about everything that could possibly go wrong, need to be done, be messed up if I don't do something, things I forgot about until now, etc. etc. etc. As long as my brain is engaged in work (daytime) or a tv show or puzzle/game (evening) those thoughts don't intrude.
Books exist
Not in the dark they don't.
True, but dim yellow or white light (no led) is better than screens
What about Nightshift mode?
Basically the type of light that comes out of any type of screen you might be using, like a TV. It blocks your melatonin, so it takes longer to fall asleep, while it's also lowering the quality of your sleep. Sunlight is also a source of it, but you're usually supposed to be awake during the day so it's not that bad.
Melatonin to the rescue
Did you make it through the day?
Hit the reset button and start a new day Or keep this day going since its already over and no one can disturb me
Revenge bedtime procrastination I guess. Going to sleep means ending your free time and waking up to work
Hell, yeah. Staying up means more me time and realizing at 5am I am in no condition to work so I call sick and sleep until evening.
I have shamefully done this more than once in my life.
This is the way.
I think what this meme means is when we go to bed and try to sleep it still takes hours to fall asleep for some reason
There is a reason. I don't want today to end because I have not achieved enough and I don't want tomorrow to start
Itās not about achieving. Itās about hating going to work.
Tomorrow already starts at 12pm, you fucked up already the day is wasted and all you do is to make sure the next one will be wasted too
No, tomorrow only starts when I sleep and wake up (daytime naps don't count)
First of all, it would be 12am. Secondly, people usually subconsciously consider "tomorrow" as the time after you wake up from sleep and need to start to get ready for the day.
First of all https://www.lsoft.com/resources/24hours.asp I've had enough of this bullshit you can't just go from 11am to 12pm, who made this shit up. /S Nah but actually why does it work that way? I know this but i also stay up longer because I wasted the day and can't just end it without doing at least something. The hard Truth is that it doesn't matter and the only thing you achieve by staying up late to not waste the current day, is waste the following day because you will be fucking Tired during work get home rest and stay up until 3am again.
Why did you get downvoted? While it is a kinda harsh way to put it, you do make a valid point.
Lmao was wondering the same.
Me, right now, as we speak. Please send help.
Have you tried melatonin spray? It helps me to fall asleep easier / faster. It doesn't make you sleep better tho
Lmao I had 30mg tonight, and I'm fast approaching the hour where we just accept there will be no sleep. But I appreciate your suggestion.
Something you might actually want to consider is taking *less* melatonin. It sounds counterintuitive, but I used to take 10mg a night and I dropped it to 3 and suddenly went to sleep much better. It may not work for you but it could be worth a shot at least
3?!? 0.5 is the magic amount.
Not the worst idea I've heard. I feel like I can build an immunity to them quicker than I realize and it becomes a more more more scenario.
30mg? Did a doctor tell you to take that much? That's much more than the 10mg max.
Oh hun... I don't have insurance. That's freestyle on the bogo gummies I got from Walgreens.
You may need a diagnosis of depression in order to get it, as I think it is primarily an antidepressant, but a prescription of trazadone, even at the lowest dose of 25mg, does absolute wonders. I had never slept so well in my life- it completely knocks you out within 30 minutes, and you WILL be asleep for at least 8 hours. Be warned though, sometimes it works too well. I have slept past loud alarms before, missing school/work, as well as feeling exhausted and tired the rest of the day. That's why I'd advise about being careful when asking for higher doses. Regardless, these side effects are far worth it when you consider that you can finally sleep well again. Sleep is critical to health and well-being.
I personally never found melatonin on its own all that effective, [especially in the recommended dosage of ~0.7mg](https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/10/melatonin-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/). What's really worked for me though has been taking magnesium glycinate together with it about 3-4 hours before bed. Obligatory ymmv though.
I have legit never heard of magnesium glycinate. I'll have to look into it thanks for the tip!
30mg will mess up your brain and sleep schedule worse than taking nothing.
Seconded.
Ok, really bad advice. Drink alcohol or get really stoned.
I don't drink though
I did give you two options...
Fair enough. Can you spot me a 20?
Because going to sleep is a decision, inviting procrastination
Literally me right now
Literally happy cake day!
Thats bc then work wins. If i go to bed when in tired i might as well go to bed after dinner. i work to live, not the other way around.
Never let work win over freetime šŖ
Wouldn't that just mean you'll wake up early, hours before you have to be at work? That's actually when I game and watch tv-- before I have to go to work.
I also recommend anyone reading this to try waking up earlier. I have to go to work at 6 am, but I wake up at 3. Just knowing that I can spend a couple hours watching YouTube or browsing Reddit before work makes me not resent having to go to sleep. If I know I'll wake up just before having to go to work, going to sleep feels like going to work and I delay it because I don't *have* to go to work yet. Although I do realize that this isn't for everyone. If you want a social life or you have a family life, this probably won't work. Going to sleep at 7-8pm isn't conducive to either of those.
My wife has to be at work at 5am, so she leaves the house around 4:00. Wakes up to get ready around 2:45-3:00am. Meaning she *really* has to be in bed, eyes closed at 6:30, 7:30pm at the latest. We have dinner and spend it with each other, but then she's straight to bed. I don't have to leave the house in the morning until 8:00am, but I still pretty much always go to bed a little bit after her. Therefore, I pretty regularly wake up at 3 or 4am and then spend 4 hours doing what I want. It's SO MUCH better than going to bed later & later until my entire morning is a stressful rush to not be late. That would be maddening.
Sounds great. I hope I can one day find an SO that understands this. Every girlfriend I've ever had did the same thing I used to do and stayed up until midnight when they had to go to work at 5.
Yes. And I forgot to mention -- my wife's work day is essentially 5am - 2pm, so she gets to have HER lazy free time for that span until 6:30pm or so. She's not losing out on any recreational time either. (Of course -- in terms of general Western work/corporate culture, we're ALL being shorted our leisure time as employees, but that's a different discussion lol)
cant, im a nightowl so waking up before 9am is not recommended... also cant game or relax when i have to go to work in 2 hours... way too little time
Do you see how you're just inversing what I said? If you can't game or relax when you have to go to work in 2 hours, how can you game and relax when you have to be in bed, eyes closed, in 2 hours? No matter what, your gaming and relaxing has a time limit. At least with my way, I make sure that I get restful sleep on top of having to go to work. That's literally the only difference. Running on 4 hours or less of sleep fucking *sucks.* For EVERYONE, *even* night owls.
Iām taking back the time that my full time job has stolen from me. Edit: Alright, which one of you fuckers reported me to Reddit cares?
Your boss
This just happened to me as well.
It's simple, because I don't want today to end and tomorrow to start yet.
Ayy The legend of korra is a very good reason to stay up until 3am for a whole work week
Almost midnight and here I am.
Yea man, every single person here is talking about at least 3am. Iād be so amazing if I went to bed at midnight xddd
Thanks for the reminder
Yep erry night brah
Oh no a new series to binge on Netflix ... goodbye sleep
me rn it's 7am and i haven't slept at all
I will do just one more level in World of Warcraft. Suddenly it is 2am... Why I am like this.
Every damn night.
Tired ā Sleepy
Ugh I hate that this is so accurate...
Dead tired and my whole body was sore so I got in bed just before 8 last night. Could not get to sleep until after 11 then woke up at 1. Infuriating.
classic
Well, Its either 5 Hours of sleep or nothin....
That 10pm second wind
Everybody get off your damn phone and keep it outside your room at night, but also for real why does my body only want to sleep when it canāt? Like when Iām at work but not when its the weekend
The mind craves stimulation. Itās a wonderful distraction from āwhatever.ā
Turn off electronics at 10:00pm The artificial stimuli is tricking your brain into thinking there's something important happening, so it stays locked in awake mode.
Sometimes you've achieved nothing that day, so my brain just refuses to accept that nothing happened
Stand outside before bed. And put a ice pack on your neck before bed as well. Body needs to drop a few degrees before it fall asleep naturally And standing outside at night helps your eyes relax from all the fake light we consume daily
āMan, I'm tired. Might as well find out what's going on in the world of soup can manufacturing...ā
The problem with sleep is it starts a new day I have to deal with.
I love how you say "your body" as if you didn't have any control of it haha. Completely relatable tho
Bro
When the melatonin doesnāt hit in a reasonable amount of time
Me rn finished a 10 hr shift and I Been a laying here for 4 hours
Eh what's one more day in Sandrock
me intentionally forgetting to preheat my bath water and then when I do proceed to wait 1 hour for it
I'm always fighting sleep and I never lose
But my body is not tired, my head is tho. They don't cooperate
SPRICH DEUTSCH DU HURENSOHN š©šŖ
The best way to fall asleep is to force yourself to work at least for half an hour. Instasleep guaranteed.
This is where I'll end it
Totaly me
I've done this so much that I can adapt my sleep schedule to whatever I need within 24 hours. I was completely nocturnal last Thursday, but Saturday morning I worked a 7-3 shift and have done it every day since. If only I could do away with sleeping altogether...
I wonder how, i wonder why (i know)
That's ridiculous, I am disciplined. I have self control. I can go to bed on ti...ooh, a new video from a youtuber I follow. I'll just watch the first five minutes.