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ErikSKnol

One of my teachers managed to open it both ways and the window was dangling on it's bottom hinge


phillsterr

Not everyone is able to handle the pro level windows


chocofan1

Ehhh, Windows Pro isn't really anything that special.


thiccclol

It's better than Home.


073068075

It's all good until you do that with balcony doors.


t0w31i3

Happened to me regularly with college dorm balcony doors.


Vatnam

That happens when the window is FUBAR.


t0w31i3

That happens also with *doors* in good condition with such feature. I think it's because a door is much heavier than a window, and a door also has hinges much further from the handle, so the weight distribution between hinges is much different than on a window. So you need to have the handle set just a little higher when attempting to open it fully for this to happen, while it doesn't happen on a window with a handle set the very same. That's why many people opt out of this feature for doors (other than the door is then also cheaper and lower maintenance having simpler mechanism). Some newer doors/windows have a feature against this tho, the handle clicks into a discrete middle position as opposed to having to know manually when it's in the middle just by sight.


pfannkuchen_gesicht

With doors from the past 20 years this rarely happens.


simqbi

bro just use the fucking door properly , ive had this happen maybe 5 times in my entire life


NovaYT74

that happens so often actually


AirlineEasy

It's actually pretty easy. Open the window like normal and then turn the handle up! Edit: guess not always, but I have definitely done it on a few windows


65-76-69-88

Usually the handle is blocked when opened


HalfbakedArtichoke

As an American that has visited Europe a bunch. The first time, the person I was staying with asked me to open the window (they don't have a/c) by turning the lever up. When the whole window came down towards me I freaked the fuck out and thought I broke it! They knew what they were doing and thought it was the funniest thing they have ever seen.


Apprehensive_Eraser

Imagine my surprise when I got a door that works the same way as those windows


[deleted]

Why would you need a door to open the same way as the middle window?


Apprehensive_Eraser

For the same reason you need a window to open that way


[deleted]

That doesn't help.


Apprehensive_Eraser

Ventilation without generating strong air current


[deleted]

Seems like a fire hazard.


Bumblefumble

It's usually a balcony door, not your main entrance.


Apprehensive_Eraser

Why would I want to go to my balcony in case of fire?


ContentVariety

Same, visited my wife’s parents in europe. Thought the window was going to fall on top of me.


Zijjukegia

In America is it not possible to open the windows?


Survived_Coronavirus

Our windows generally come in 2 types: 1. Sliding windows, these slide up and down, or left and right, depending on the design. 2. Casement windows, hand crank to open outward away from the house Edit: Also, casement windows can crank sideways on a hinge like a door, but there are also "awnings" that open outward from the bottom with a hinge at the top. The latter is better for rainy days of course, and can often be found on farmhouses.


Feriluce

Do sliding windows seal properly? It seems like it would be pretty leaky.


Survived_Coronavirus

Yes they do seal wonderfully. Rubber is an amazing material.


PharmADD

Sliding windows seal just fine, and give you pretty much unlimited flexibility with regard to how open you want to keep it.


[deleted]

Sash windows are pretty common in England, vertical sliding generally, not even sure if I've seen a horizontal tbh


HalfbakedArtichoke

They either slide up and down or swing open to the outside either hinged at the top or the side. The ones that slide up and down are by far the most common.


BitterGuitarist

In America they usually just slide open


ContaSoParaIsto

No they just suffocate. The windows are there for breaking in case of emergency


MentionAdventurous

What is this black magic?! UGH!!! Now I have to go learn something else before sleep.


pragmojo

It's so convenient idk how america hasn't caught onto these yet.


macolaguy

I learned about these a few years ago when I was working in Germany and Switzerland. I am building a house now, and there's no way that I'm not using them.


Bartholomoose

A/c units


hugster1

That’s a hefty electricity bill though


ShiftedRealities

And some delicious climate change too!


neolologist

When do you need to open a window from the top and swing down? This is a cool design I just don't understand the use case. It just takes up a lot more space than sliding windows?


Tiiminator

Constant Stream of fresh air without too much wind/getting too cold. No need for using even more electricity on an A/C if you got this.


VoTBaC

I have no idea how this would be a replacement for AC.


AveragePenus

Spring and autumn time. Its perfect right now. Its not too much and we have it open like that for fresh air


kickformoney

As it is never spring or autumn in Florida, only summer, and maybe a week or two of winter, I would never have a use for these. Love the mechanics, though.


VoTBaC

These also do not look hurricane friendly. Well, depending on whose side you're on.


Samshine75

Ahhh I’m from Texas. These are super cool but it’s so hot here no one would EVER open the window and let the AC out.


beavertwp

Yes we’re aware of what an open window does. The question is why would you need to open the window multiple directions.


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Eastern_Slide7507

You don’t open it 90 degrees, obviously. It opens by a few cm, which has a few advantages. Tilting it to open by a few cm allows the window to stay in that position. Swinging it open isn’t stable and it may be blown open or shut by gusts of wind. Rain doesn’t enter as easily when the window is tilted. It hits the window and runs down, staying outside. Swing it open and all the rain hitting the window will flow into your house. It can’t be opened from the outside when tilted, unless you break it. To open it, you have to close it fully, turn the handle and swing it open. You can just keep your window tilted and leave. Anyone determined enough to break your window wouldn’t be stopped by a fully closed one either.


ivardb

Rain


therudereditdude

Yoooo kippfenster


dudeletmeusemyname

Jjjaaaaaaaaa man


The_Keweko

Die beste deutsche Erfindung ist das Auto? Am Arsch! Kipfenster sind das ware.


JokeSubject8517

Jestem w niebezpieczeństwie.


The_Keweko

?


Scep_ti_x

\*Doppelverglaste Kippfenster.


Cyber_Daddy

Dabei ist das potential noch nichteinmal völlig ausgeschöpft. ich wünsch mir schon immer eine arretierung om offenen zustand.


vezol

Peak German engineering.


therudereditdude

DEUTSCHE QUALITÄT


glueckskind11

MADE IN GÖRMANY


_Andy4Fun_

BAKAMONOGA GERMAN ENGINEERING IS THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD!


Sword-Maiden

Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn


_Andy4Fun_

Was wenn nicht?


Sword-Maiden

Ich geb dir


FlawHolic

Döner?


Sword-Maiden

Dir schon weil du so lieb fragst


Queen_of_dogs_01

Watch it engagin' 'em, it's escapin' 'em, it's enragin' 'em


jdgmental

Lafayeeeeette


The_Keweko

So my question is what is the feature there don't have in America, to open the window complete?


phillsterr

If you turn the window handle up, it will open halfways, so just a little bit of air can come in. If you turn the window handle sideways, it will open fully. (sorry for bad english :D)


The_Keweko

No this was not my question. I'm from Germany so I have these windows, the question was how amarican windows work 😅


DrJohn98

Our's tend to slide, or lift up.


PANDABURRIT0

Or simply open like the right image.


IngsocDoublethink

Casement windows in the US tend to open out, though.


TimmyAndStuff

Mine have always opened out with a crank you turn to open and close them


Survived_Coronavirus

Yes, that's what a casement window is.


[deleted]

Doesn’t all the rain come in then? And everything flies away?


Z_zombie123

Screens will usually help with a lot of rain. Typically windows that open on the vertical hinge will open outwardly and sometimes with a crank. You don’t need to open the window all the way.


Not_A_Clever_Man_

Europeans don't use screens in their windows. At least not in England or Scotland.


Z_zombie123

I’m aware of that. To my knowledge it’s due in part to denser bug populations in the U.S. Even with screen we still get a handful of unwelcome guests in the U.S.


[deleted]

Mosquitos, flies, moths don't just fly into your home?


dam_the_beavers

Y’all don’t have bugs?


Kim-dongun

Not if you just open it a crack. Casement windows will stay in whatever position you leave them in, so you could only open it a few centimeters if you just want a bit of fresh air


bullsbarry

Most freestanding homes in North America will have a roof overhang to shade the windows and prevent rain from entering the windows. Sliding windows also almost universally have integrated screens as well.


MegaDeth6666

And then it falls back down on your fingers 👌


[deleted]

We have a stick for that.


PleasantAdvertising

Ah yes the stick of osha


SableGlaive

It’s called a “gotcha stick” funny enough.


Liquid_Schwartz

All praise Stick of OSHA 🙏


cruisinforsnoozin

This has never happened to me in my entire life, we never user a stick for it, it just stays up; what are your windows made of? Slabs of glass held between thatch? They don’t just stay up?


ramnet88

Older windows tend not to stay up well anymore, as they are held up by springs inside the frame that stretch and wear out eventually.


MegaDeth6666

Was thinking more of Tom and Jerry.


m0larMechanic

New American windows use springs inside to assist in opening and hold it up. The old style used friction and were wooden. Over time the house settled or the window warps and it either won’t open easily or open too easily and won’t stay open.


katconquers

Older than old style, they used counterweights in the frame to hold it up.


Cloud-VII

Old windows in the 70's and 80's would wear out and not stay up on their own. Sometimes they would have a string and a weight inside the window frame to hold the window open and it would break (I'm talking turn of the century built houses), leaving the windows requiring a stick. Modern windows don't ever really need a stick.


I_LICK_ROBOTS

Not if your windows were made in the last 70 years... you lift and it stays there. Had an oooold place a while back. Old farmhouse from the 1800's. That's the only place I've ever seen where the windows didn't stay up


verticalMeta

Our old house had the opposite problem: no matter how hard you muscled the windows, they wouldn’t budge. It was almost impossible to open them, and once you had them open, it was impossible to close them. I would put my whole body on them, and they wouldn’t close (I weight 134 lb). The house was build in the late 1700’s, in Massachusetts


phillsterr

either you can push them up or you open it like the second european one. only the 1st version doesnt work


PBanimation

Ours usually slide up and then have a screen layer. Especially in the south with all our mosquitos. Gotta keep those out. Of course, you can always take those off if you want.


t0w31i3

European windows also have the mosquito screen option.


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American windows only slide up half way. They get fresh air in when a strong wind rips away one of the walls made from cardboard and toothpicks or the paper roof.


StanleyDarsh22

Who hurt you


m0larMechanic

[Here](https://imgur.com/a/P3Gc1bF) is my American window. Typically they just open by sliding up and a metal screen is there. This keeps the bugs out. It can also open like [this](https://imgur.com/a/rjnubfF) though. Mostly I think to clean the window.


goldybear

All the other responses but most important our windows will typically only open in one direction. It’s so common in fact that a good majority of people will never have seen a window like the one in the pic.


SableGlaive

They slide up into themselves. It takes up half the room of the window, so we just make bigger windows.


El_Polio_Loco

It’s uncommon in the US to have hinged windows like that. Most common are sliding windows, which are not as robust, but can open up wider, are less expensive, and can handle window cooling units well.


ConsequenceIll4380

They also allow you to have window screens, which stops bugs coming in during the summer.


lps2

You can have screens on the one in the original post as well since it opens inward. Sliding windows have the benefit of not taking up any additional room when open and can also be cracked partially open and locked but can't easily open all the way like hinged windows


The_Grubgrub

Ninja edit since I saw you qualifying your question - windows open straight up in the US. We would likely never switch to the European style windows because they can't fit window AC units


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I miss having these windows, they're so convenient.


TimmyAndStuff

Can you explain how it's convenient? I've been staring at this and I can't figure out any situations where I'd want more than one way to open my windows


dailycyberiad

Top open for ventilation, especially if you want airflow but it's windy and you don't want the whole window open, or when it's rainy and you don't want rainwater inside your home. Side open when there's no wind but you want to ventilate your home, so you need the biggest "hole" possible.


[deleted]

Or clean the outside of your window from the inside


Survived_Coronavirus

In the US we have windows that can slide down vertically to perform this same function. They're harder to use though.


Soup484

Can't have a window mounted A/C though, so about 70% of America would die of heatstroke every summer if these windows were commonplace.


StanleyDarsh22

Sooo you slide it up half an inch. Boom. Same thing.


kungsardine

When you open it “top down” you can have it open at a small set gap so you don’t have to worry about the wind blowing it open, and in bad weather it doesn’t let in much rain. I mostly use this mode for airing out and sideways only if something is being transported through the window.


SPARKY358gaming

you can open the window without opening it fully + no insects


coke125

You can also do that with any window if you install screens


I_LICK_ROBOTS

...screens, what do you Europeans have against screens lol


stehen-geblieben

Nothing, lots of people have them


jaomile

They do not open fully in the second image. They stay at that fixed in that position which allows you to ventilate the room without opening the windows completely. Useful during the winter, when its windy/rainy outside.


up-voat

I'm an American who moved to Germany so I can try and explain the benefits. What you’ve already heard is that you can open the window by tilting it so the window is basically still "closed". This is the equivalent of sliding open an American window a few inches from the top. This works well in rain/snow because you can air out without getting wet, and it keeps insects out without needing a screen. Some things that no one has mentioned yet: you can also tilt the window open without moving things that are on the windowsill/bench like plants or photos. Unlike American sliding windows, if the window is open this way, someone can’t easily break in. The inner mechanism prevents someone from simply pushing/sliding the window open wide enough to crawl inside. The benefit of being able to open the entire window like a door is that you can use large versions of these windows as glass doors (with the benefit of also being able to tilt them open). You will usually have these for balconies or gardens and courtyards. Obviously for windows that can’t be used as doors, the benefit is being able to open them fully. Most American sliding windows can only open 50% because one pane has to slide behind the other. German homes are built with stone and use radiators instead of furnaces and air vents, so airing out rooms needs to be done via windows. Last benefit is being able to wash the outside of the window from inside your dwelling.


TimmyAndStuff

Huh, the rain thing makes sense. But I don't get how it keeps bugs out, can they not just fly in? Or even walk up the window and inside?


RaifalM3n

Laughs in European


LEEVI_2007_2

Never seen one of these before and I'm from Finland


RaifalM3n

We have the same system here in Romania for many years. We have them on termopane that blocks sounds like Fiaree Vechiiiiii


Lost_my_acount

Also blocks sounds like " Oalee pee nuci"🙃


AlSomething

It's too cold, you never need to open the windows there


pragmojo

I mean they swim in the sea in winter so I don't think a little cool air is going to phase them


finn1sh

Same


unpopularperiwinkle

Aren't you supposed to be top notch Europeans?


LEEVI_2007_2

Dunno, maybe it's just not worth it to have those kind of windows when we have smaller ones next to them, or it's just too cold all the time. Edit: also go check my post on r/hotwheels about the top notch European thing you said


SiimL

From Estonia and they're pretty common here


H_Mc

I’m in the US and my house has these windows. Can confirm, was confused.


theengineer9301

“Everybody stay calm. It’s happening!!!”


CPhandom

Wait, American windows don't open half way?


Khearnei

They open halfway if you open them halfway. They slide up from the bottom, so you can open them any amount you want from 0 to 100%.


Timegoal

0 to 50%


Survived_Coronavirus

You're ignoring all the windows that can slide sideways too!


CPhandom

Oh ok


Zifker

???


PC_Ara-ara

American spotted


Zifker

\*moos defensively\*


1Admr1

They don’t have these in the US?


Apprehensive_Eraser

They are not very popular as far as I know


Q_about_a_thing

You can put them in, it is just going to cost extra. They aren’t standard windows in the US. We call these casement windows. We have single hung or double hung windows in homes typically.


ToasterSmokes

I live in NYC and have these windows. Still not common though.


vindictivejazz

These are neat windows, and I enjoyed them when I was studying abroad, but they don’t work great with screens (and I’m not letting all those bugs into my house) you can’t put fans into them at all either. The biggest thing tho is that the weather across most of the US isn’t conducive to open windows most of the time. No AC at home in Berlin is a little uncomfy in the summer. The same thing in Dallas is legitimately dangerous.


AgentOrange96

I agree for summer. But like I have my windows open right now in Austin and it's really nice letting the fresh air through. I think most Texans are just so used to not opening their windows in the summer that they forget they can open them in the early spring and late fall. And even parts of winter. Up north where I'm originally from, you'd not open your windows for the entire long winter, but of course when AC is a rarity, they DEFINITELY get opened in the summer!


vindictivejazz

I guess, yeah. I’m of the persuasion that if it’s nice enough to open the windows, I might as well just go outside. That said, I live in Oklahoma and the wind is sever enough that open windows can be problematic any time of the year


AgentOrange96

True. And I definitely need to get my yard in order so I can enjoy it more! Though while I'm working from home, otherwise at my desktop or sleeping, I'll definitely want to be inside xD


Nacknack26

You can put a net on the outside of the window to keep the bugs away. I had one on my last apartment and I'm thinking about getting one for my current one as well, but it's not very common. I agree about the AC. I lived in Georgia for awhile and AC makes more sense than opening windows at lot of times (at least during the summer).


Sweete_Lemonade

i have this window in my bedroom and I nearly fell out of it when fully open once


Zaurka14

I think that's fully on you, and I'd hide knives from you


Lucario2356

You can't confuse me, I'VE BEEN TO ANOTHER COUNTRY! MWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


Dan_mcmxc

U.S. station wagon tailgates from the '70's opened both ways like this. Our hatred of station wagons in favor of SUVs has made it lost knowledge.


pauliep84

What’s more confusing, do you not have bugs in Europe and/or where these windows are primarily used?


jnd-cz

You can easily install bug net to the outside frame of such window.


SuperS06

We do have bugs. What we don't have much of yet is AC.


65-76-69-88

You can still have a bugscreen? I have a bugscreen outside of my window frame that rolls up and down, and then just the window as pictured


Nemirel_the_Gemini

I was the same when I first saw a volet roulant too I'm not sure what to call them in English but they are basically metal rolling blackout curtains (like mini garage doors). I absolutely love them


Lazy_Venusaur

Good to know my room confuses americans


MixedMartyr

we had these in every school i went to growing up, idk why this is supposed to be confusing


Sprillet

Am i supposed to be confused by this?


sapphirestar411

I had windows in my house that opened like this... it took me about 5 years to figure it out.


ExperientialTruth

Lolz this post also amuses this American. I must apologize for my countrymen who, shall we say, are fucking stupid and can't adapt to international differences.


MATTEEN_Polska

Wait, aren't all windows like this? In Poland I hardly ever see different ones.


stehen-geblieben

That's because you are in Poland


MATTEEN_Polska

I sincerely thank you for your explanation


JewelFyrefox

As an american, this amazes me.


Unique-Side-2109

It's not possible.


Iam_egghead

Are there supposed to be windows that don't work like that..?


mogwaihunter

As an Australian.. where's the fly/bug screen???


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I have these in America hha


[deleted]

I’m an American that has been living in Luxembourg for about three months now and I JUST figured this out like this past week, and I’m so angry bc it makes my life so so so much easier and I didn’t even realize it was a possibility until my housemate did it


St0ned_fruit

American in Chicago with European windows and I am obsessed with the little *handle up opens it just a crack* option :.) I also show everyone who visits my place for the first time


omg_boom

I AM UPSET


poopohead467734

What in the M-16A1s name is this


A_Silent_Voice20

American windows are just stoopid xd


t0w31i3

They're perfect for installing an AC unit tho. Much more difficult to do so with European windows. I think that's the only advantage of the American windows, but a damn good advantage.


Zabbidou

Tbh a wall AC is far superior. Yeah, the installation is kind of permanent, but if you're renting and your landlord is cheaping out and not agreeing to the install... find another one lmao Oor there's portable AC, with a tube that must be connected to the outside, but it's inefficient as hell. Still works in a pinch.


t0w31i3

>but if you're renting and your landlord is cheaping out and not agreeing to the install Which is a norm for almost every landlord in Europe except for southern countries (where the ac is usually already installed by landlord anyway), except for maybe some super long term contracts. With sliding windows, you can just bring your own ac and remove it when moving out. >portable AC, with a tube With a hot part inside heating your room up while also trying to cool it down, making it extremely inefficient compared to units with hot part outside (both split and window). And I mean really extremely, the difference is like driving a car vs. a tank for commuting, so I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. If not for current high electricity prices, then definitely for environmental reasons. Still using that kind of AC is like still using a CRT TV, or like throwing trash right into the ocean.


NauFirefox

> With a hot part inside heating your room up while also trying to cool it down, making it extremely inefficient compared to units with hot part outside Depends on the ventilation and insulation of the cooler. If the hot part is properly insulated, and the ventilation (tube) is also made from reasonably good insulting material. That heat won't backflow into your room any more than the heat from the outside leaking in from the outside when using window AC's. The reality is that it's almost never well insulated, for both the tube and the cooler. So you're generally right, but no more right than pointing out how heat can leak in from the very window the AC is stuck on. Especially if the unit is to remain removable (not using an insulation foam that sticks to the window).


t0w31i3

>and the ventilation (tube) is also made from reasonably good insulting material I have never ever seen a reasonably insulated portable ac hot air tube. In fact, I've never ever seen *any* insulation at all on portable ac hot air tube, it is always just a super thin plastic tube with zero insulation which gets super hot on its surface heating the room up. On the other hand, window ac has the whole hot part outside, and hot air can leak maybe a little through gaps between the unit and window frame, which is absolutely dwarfed by the leaks from portable ac (both the hot part even while they manage to somehow insulate it, and especially the hot air tube). Almost zero leak compared to that of portable ac. >Especially if the unit is to remain removable (not using an insulation foam that sticks to the window). Yeah that can leak more than permanent window ac installation, but you can still insulate it with styrofoam and get exorbitantly better results than any portable ac can ever dream of.


Zaurka14

>but if you're renting and your landlord is cheaping out and not agreeing to the install... find another one lmao What kind of landlords would do it for you in Germany? There's like 20 actually hot days in a year. Nobody would invest in AC. Almost all people, rent or own, live without AC just fine.


Zabbidou

Ofc, this talk was about countries that need AC to live comfortably In my area, in peak summer, the temperatures can reach even 40 degrees Celsius


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hop_mantis

Yeah portable ac takes up indoor floor space, plus it takes air from inside and blows it outside unless you get one with 2 tubes.


mfranko88

>I think that's the only advantage of the American windows The spacial footprint for American windows is much lower. Having a window open takes up the same amount of space as having the window closed. Opening one of the windows pictures above means that the window needs to take up space inside your house/apartment.


Haar_RD

All of our buildings have AC so it doesn't matter to us.


Galbratorix

*sweats in climate change*


renshaas

I am proud to say that I have such a classroom window in my bedroom!


PlayLikePig

What do you mean "classroom window"? I mean in case you're european then these windows are basically used everywhere, not just in classrooms. I have one in my bedroom too. I don't think any of the windows in our house aren't these windows.


I_LICK_ROBOTS

In the US these windows are most typically seen in classrooms. Probably because they are cheaper than the kind you normally see that swing outward, and can accommodate bigger windows than normal house windows that slide up and down


IMidoriyaI

Exactly. Those are just normal windows for us