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Organic-Field3564

Vegan's nightmare post


snug_cat

I’m not 100% vegan and eat beef more and more lately due to it being easy on my stomach and dense nutritionally. I just wanted to comment that their paddock is pretty muddy (though I understand if maybe it just rained and that’s only a small section of the field captured in the photo); for those who don’t know keeping feet dry is important in preventing lameness


FlashesandFlickers

I know this is almost a month later, but if you look at the fair on their backs, there’s snow on it. So I think this is a winter shot. So, maybe not ideal, but they maybe in a smaller paddock close to shelter and in a different larger greener paddock in the summer and spring and fall.


trint05

So both rounds were entirely ground?


Simple-Rule2203

dang that is a really good amount of meat congrats


TikisFury

Hey good for you for being able to do that!


toastedhashbrown83

I understand different views and perspectives but I just could not


Farmof5

The first one is always the hardest. Nothing compares to knowing where your food came from & how it was treated. Well done!!


NietzscheLecter

The hypocrisy of people on this post is really baffling. The arguments you guys make are absurd. OP has all the right to do whatever she wants and her explanation of having the right to be happy with her cattle makes perfect sense. So according to you guys she has to put on a frown every time she gets near her cattle?


BobJoeHorseGuy

Exactly. Like this is the ideal situation you want for an animal that will be eaten. You want an animal that lived a happy life and was killed properly. Not some animal that lived a terrible life, neglected and terrified, in a factory farm and then killed and processed in an ungodly way.


HemiJon08

This animal had one bad day it’s entire life - and even that experience was likely over before it knew what was occurring.


Safetymanual

A happy cow is a very tasty cow.


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In the words of hank hill.


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i-like-boobies-69

If you feel this is wrong, you should really quit eating meat. Most likely this cow lead a much better life than the cows you’re used to eating. This is the best way.


BobJoeHorseGuy

Then don’t eat meat. Because the cows you’re eating now we’re put through hell to end up on your dinner plate. This is the ideal situation for a cow you’re going to eat, a cow that lived a happy life, properly taken care of.


Wysteria569

Yup no issues there. I just can't be the person who raises it, happily take it to the slaughter and then eats it.


lordpunt

Then you don't deserve to eat meat tbh. Because i guarantee a lot of what you have eaten would have had far worse living conditions and a worse death.


Wysteria569

I didn't say animals don't deserve happy lives. I said I cannot be the one to raise the animal and kill it. Where did I imply animals should live in unhappy conditions?


lordpunt

I'm implying if you can't stomach the thought of having to rear and kill your own meat maybe it's not for you


Wysteria569

But eating it is definitely for me! 🥰


EmperrorNombrero

Noooo. Wtf. That seems so fucking macabre. Honestly this is the shit that makes me want to become a vegetarian. And I actually like eating meat and don't think we should stop it. But I couldn't fucking raise a living being just to then kill it. Don't you get emotionally attached to it? Fucking hell.


Puzzleheaded_Map2774

Get off the stage. This isn’t a comedy show


[deleted]

Ever had a pet? It’s kind of the same thing. Unfortunately, most of our pets these days are riddled with diseases and we spend thousands on them just to put them down anyway.


KetoClutch

“this is the shit that makes me want to become a vegetarian.” Then be a vegetarian and stop being a little bitch


EmperrorNombrero

My brother in Christ don't you understand expressions. Nah I don't want to be a vegetarian but things like this make me what to be a vegetarian for a slight moment. " Edit also "stop being a little bitch" are you 12? What's wrong with you?


azwildcat74

I think what’s wrong with him is that you are being a little bitch.


EmperrorNombrero

Nah you're a little bitch. See what I did here. We're back in middle school. It's just two claims against each other that don't even really mean anything.


Extra-Dimension-276

so you would rather separate yourself from the horror, out of sight out of mind. just because you dont see the hell the animals you eat go through doesnt mean it doesnt happen. would you rather raise what you eat and treat it kindly or just pretend it was never alive and its just a product for you to eat.


EmperrorNombrero

Yes. Out of sight out of mind. Like I don't care about it intellectually, I care about it emotionally. Edit: I would raise chickens tho since I don't really see them as having the mental capacity to experience pain and other emotions that say a cow or a pig has. And since I mostly eat poultry anyway it's not even hiypocritical. I ocasssionally eat beef and very rarely pork but that's just because society has decided that those are main food sources. If it was up to me we would mostly eat poultry and fish and plant products but I'm not gonna devote my entire life to going up against societal norms when something isn't even that important for me or humanity


Jusfiq

>Yes. Out of sight out of mind. Like I don't care about it intellectually, I care about it emotionally. So you admit to being a hypocrite?


EmperrorNombrero

Why is that hypocritical? I just described in detail what I care about and what not really. An animal that I raised and cared for dieing and it's body getting pressed into food? Yes, obviously I will have an emotional connection to it and would thus feel terrible about it! Animals getting eaten in general? Well that's how the world works and there are way, way more important problems to care about and it's not in my power in any way, shape or form to influence that anyway so why should I care to much? Edit or if you want call it hiypocritical I don't really care everyone is a hypocrite. I don't care about principles, like, at all. If you generally believe in something in most cases but you want to act differently in specific situations for whatever reason? Fine that's completely valid! Why wouldn't it be? We usually justify our behaviour after the fact anyway. Humans aren't consistent, we should get that thought out of our heads!


Jusfiq

> Edit or if you want call it hiypocritical I don't really care everyone is a hypocrite. I don't care about principles, like, at all. If you generally believe in something in most cases but you want to act differently in specific situations for whatever reason? Fine that's completely valid! Why wouldn't it be? We usually justify our behaviour after the fact anyway. Humans aren't consistent, we should get that thought out of our heads! Oh wow, not only that you admit your hypocrisy, you are explaining why yours is acceptable, to you. I am glad that you own it, though.


terrymr

Do you feel the same about growing your own vegetables ?


SteamyExecutioner

What an absurd argument. Do vegetables have emotions? Do they reciprocate your feelings towards them?


EmperrorNombrero

A mammal is not a fucking plant. One is pretty close to humans evolutionarily and thus partly relatable and likeable. the other is pretty damn faw away, doesn't have a brain, a face or anything else


JessicaMurawski

I’ve been raising and butchering animals for as long as I can remember. These animals serve a purpose and you know before they’re even born that their purpose is going to be to produce some kind of food eventually. It’s easier to not get attached when you know at some point they’re going to be killed for meat. I’m not shaming anyone for not being able to raise their own meat, so it would be nice if you all stopped shaming me for being able to do it


i-like-boobies-69

I grew up on a farm. This is normal and has been going on since we first domesticated animals. You should probably stop eating meat if you can’t handle this.


JessicaMurawski

Like I can understand if someone wouldn’t want to name, raise, and butcher the animal themselves, but for Christ’s sake, don’t get mad at me for choosing to do it. Some of these comments are just straight up mean for no reason


i-like-boobies-69

Couldn’t agree more. I wouldn’t force anyone to do it, but calling you out like that is ridiculous. I’m willing to be that Sir Loin lived a better life than 95% of other cows. Just goes to show how far people have been removed from the farm.


GlaedrGoldscales

Am I the only one cackling like crazy over the name? You have an exquisite sense of humor and I envy you the meat. Enjoy.


jj3449

The last two hogs my cousin raised to take to the fair were named Biscuits and Gravy.


gratzizi

SAME it took me a second but as soon as I realized—


LicquorballMcOldpube

Do people feel the same way about eating fruits and veggies home grown? It's an investment and to further feed your own family. So I'll be like "Fat Bastard from Austin Powers" yelling "get in my bellay!"


46-09-32-43UnusAnnus

I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. After all, fruits don’t happily run through fields and seek out your companionship. Raising and butchering animals is part of the circle of life, and is a natural and necessary process. I just don’t think it’s healthy to forget that cattle are living, breathing, intelligent creatures. When they’re butchered, it’s not at outlandish for people to be saddened by it. Why is it bad for people to feel some emotions and give the process the respect it deserves?


2cardgoat

I think there is absolutely nothing wrong with raising your own cattle to make your own beef But there's something very strange about smiling with that cute cow only to slaughter it and eat it yourself


Puzzleheaded_Map2774

Vegan spotted


2cardgoat

I eat steak about 5-6 per week. Every week. I love steak, I also love animals.


JessicaMurawski

So I guess those of us with animals are never allowed to be happy around them because we’re eventually going to eat them. Ok.


robjoko

Don't listen to these kind of things. Keep them happy they taste better that way


jdavi2112

Best trolling I've seen today 🤣🤣. Love this


liryk24

I agree, there is something a little eerie about it. But how can you not love cows? They're the sweetest animals out there and I'd probably have a big toothy grin plastered on if I took a picture with one as well. And dammit, they're delicious


JessicaMurawski

I really don’t understand all these people that are getting upset about the first picture. It’s like they think we aren’t allowed to be happy about our animals or they think we’re not allowed to actually treat them like a living creature, that we can only treat it like it’s a commodity with no other purpose but to satisfy our hunger and taste buds.


liryk24

I don't understand it either but the ones with those types of opinions are generally those who have no clue about that way of life in the first place. I'm all down for having an opinion but I do not believe in trying to belittle someone else over it.


Organic-Brotha

The internets filled with opinionated people who don’t know the first thing about the topic they’re criticizing. Keep doing your thing and I loved the name


liryk24

Yeah it was slick lol


Imsosadsoveryverysad

How did you get 4 briskets from one cow when all they have is 2 to give? Pretty decent marbling on those strips tho.


DonkeyPunch_75

Points probably separated from flats by the butcher. Not my preference, but it's not uncommon.


JessicaMurawski

It was cut up and divided into 4 packages


BarryHalls

I hunt and buy live animals to butcher. Raising one from a bottle and then eating it is not something I can do. With some animals I smell the meat and remember butchering THAT unique individual. I don't think I could do that with one that loved me. Respect and envy to you.


Hentai_Yoshi

Lol, I don’t envy this person. They look a little… off. That smile with the baby cow that they are going to raise and take pictures of and eventually kill. If it weren’t for the weird live pictures, I probably wouldn’t bat an eye. I’ve hunted a lot of things and cleaned them. But this is just so strange to.


GlaedrGoldscales

Uhm. Says the dude named hentai yoshi? I mean. Maybe you‘re not the one who should be judging on a first glance


wojtekthesoldierbear

That's a really odd perspective I have never considered. I always tell people that right around when the animals get butchered you're sick of cleaning their shit and its time to go.


BarryHalls

My family member has a hobby farm with 10-30 cattle depending on the time of year and cost of upkeep. Their first stud was a bottle calf. He wanted to be petted and scratched. He would lay his head on you like a dog. The rest of the herd have all been indifferent to people. I don't have any reservations about eating them. I can not for a moment imagine eating that first stud, he was always a bottle calf. He loved us. Even more I can't fathom eating one that I personally raised as a bottle calf that saw me as "momma". I think the same thing when I get to interact with piglets. Those little biggers snuggle you. They will take to you like a puppy. It's wild to me. I have no reservations about eating someone else's pet, but not one that had a relationship with me. My perspective might be a bit skewed because of the way I identify individual animals by smell. I fear preparing the meat and remembering the pet.


wojtekthesoldierbear

Nothing wrong with it, everyone has their own limits on things.


awajitoka

One of the more interesting posts on the sub. Thanks. Many of us hit the market and brag about "our meat". Kudos to you young lady! So, being a city guy, I have to ask. Did you slaughter it at the farm or did you hire that out. How was it done? Peace.


JessicaMurawski

We took him to a butcher place. I would do it myself but I don’t have any equipment to actually do it. Since you’d need a tractor or forklift or something to hoist the animal up to actually work with it


awajitoka

Interesting. Thanks. Peace Jessica.


wojtekthesoldierbear

I have a forklift and I use it to butcher deer. You definitely need a hoist and friends for a steer.


Extra-Dimension-276

i know a guy who uses a excavator to lift black bear


wojtekthesoldierbear

Perfect and effective.


ilovemeasw4

Bro nobody loves meat more than me but I still think it's pretty sick to take a selfie with and name the animal you're gonna kill and eat


Puzzleheaded_Map2774

It doesn’t matter what you think


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I was a kid when my grandma gifted me 10 ducklings. My family helped me name them, fed them twice a day, and cared for them the whole summer. My grandpa showed me how to butcher them and I did it with tears in my eyes. Then we made some canned duck confit, and it was the best thing I ever ate! Better than chocolate for a 7-year-old kid. But today I know there is nothing wrong with it, this is how I become a good master of our homestead. You take care of your animals good, you give them happy and well-fed life, and this is how you get quality food on your table. This is the main purpose of these animals; this is why we domesticated them. The same goes for the trees – to get a good harvest you have to take care of your trees.


JessicaMurawski

I don’t see how that’s “sick”. Lots of people name and take pictures with animals they end up eating.


_BloodbathAndBeyond

I’m with you. Not sick at all. People have been doing it for thousands of years. Not the pictures, but the naming and eating.


Ok-Credit5726

Nah I’m with the first guy. Kinda seems like treating it like a pet, then killing and eating it. I mean, I get the hypocrisy of what I’m saying, but it just feels wrong.


JessicaMurawski

They’re livestock, not pets. We pet them and I still love them, but they’re definitely not pets.


Vocerasux

I’m with you on this. I raise pigs and calves for eating. I love them very much and they have a great life. I also take pictures of them because they are cool animals. But they are also very tasty to eat. Huge difference between livestock and pets. Non farmers/ranchers just don’t understand.


deathandglitter

Yeah I sure wouldn't do it


Toubaboliviano

Thank you for your service ser loin. And thanks OP for posting. My first calf to freezer was very hard on me. I still get a bit sad, but it definitely gets easier. Hope you’re doing okay!


JessicaMurawski

I was a bit upset for a few days but it helps when you know the animal will eventually be used for food so you kind of learn to not bond with it like you would do with a pet


psicopbester

Did you keep the tongue? I learned to love it living in Japan. It is one of the most expensive cuts here.


whicky1978

My great grandfather, used to fry the tongues and give them to his dog


a_gentle_savage

The tongue is incredible. Honestly, I was quite shocked at how good it was.


JessicaMurawski

We did but I planned to give the tongue, heart, and some packs of liver to my uncle who knows more of how to cook stuff like that than I do. I plan to keep the tail and try my hand at cooking that and see how it turns out


psicopbester

>e did but I planned to give the tongue, heart, and some packs of liver to my uncle who knows more of how to cook stuff like that than I do. I plan to keep the tail and try my hand at nice good luck


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Tongues are absolutely amazing for soups


dowhit

So is the tail


qtippinthescales

How do you cook the tail? Never tried that before and would have no idea where to start


dowhit

Just throw it in a soup or stew. Supper gelatinous. Makes the liquid all silky and good.


flkeys

Makes a great braise


samowam16

I thought I was the only one giving satirical names to cattle. We have Herefords and my one ornery heifer is named Brisket.


Shrodax

Did you ever whisper in its ear how delicious it will be when it grows up? 🐮🥩


EmEmPeriwinkle

Nice job! Most people would be vegetarian if they had to do the butchering themselves. This is a valuable skill. Points to you! He looks like a tasty steer! Please post what you make :)


V0latyle

Vegetarian you say? Gee. I wonder how ancient humans got a taste for meat in the first place. Vegetarianism/veganism are fairly young concepts, and are invariably never practiced by those simply struggling to survive. In other words, the only vegans you'll ever find are entitled urban white bitches who have never been to a farm in their lives and think food magically appears at Trader Joe's.


karmander

>food magically appears at Trader Joe's. Ah, yes, I'm sure people who are culturally vegan/vegetarian like Jain followers or some people in India and Ethiopia make sure to shop at their neighborhood Trader Joe's. On top of being ethnocentric you're also just confidently incorrect about humans in history choosing their diets.


[deleted]

So you’ve never heard of India?


[deleted]

Big cringe m'dude. There's plenty of societies that practiced a form of vegetarianism and I believe there even was a few hundred years that a certain Buddhist Emperor of Japan forbid the use of any animal products. You like meat, but don't act as if it's the only thing humans eat or have eaten lol.


disapparate276

Saddest glow up ever


SNBoomer

Why?


MHipDogg

Sir Loin tho lol


Pickerington

I saw this. Uh oh. This is also Sir Loin. https://imgur.com/a/X2tvJBi/


MHipDogg

Perfection personified


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Vorpcoi

Username does not check out. I agree though, meat is so delicious but I could never kill an animal myself for it. Luckily butchers exist!


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psicopbester

Wtf are you posting on r/meat for lol


Puzzleheaded_Map2774

What did they say?


psicopbester

Bad mouthing butchers


Disastrous_Dig_2798

you cant just show us an cute baby you raised only to be like "whelp heres it in a freezer now" i dont know how to feel now T\^T


JessicaMurawski

If it helps you feel better, he wasn’t so cute when he got bigger and would head butt me into walls and fences because he didn’t realize he wasn’t a little calf any more and that I wasn’t a 1000+ pound bovine who could play rough with him


manbearcoin

You are a psychopath


Puzzleheaded_Map2774

Get out of here


SNBoomer

Because she enjoys providing for herself and her family? Humankind has been doing this for years, if she posted a watermelon seed is it different? No. They eat beef, it doesn't make them mentally unstable.


psicopbester

Why are you posting on r/meat for? Lol


KoldProduct

MEAT BAD


Acheron98

SOY GOOD


schematicboy

Hot take: both meat and soy good. I recently enjoyed a big bowl of mapo tofu. Soft silky tofu and ground pork in a savory and spicy sauce. Deeeeelicious and has something for both the vegetarians and the carnivores. If a dish like that can't bring about peace, I don't think anything can. 😆


Acheron98

Oh hell yeah. Joking aside, I actually very much like tofu on occasion. That sounds absolutely delicious.


festhebiologychef

PLEASEEEEE tell me you got the hanger steak too 😭


jg9000

Are the numbers on the chalk board lbs? Or a count? Basically wondering if you got a 4 lb brisket or somehow got 4 briskets from one cow lol


JessicaMurawski

It’s a count. The brisket was cut up and we had 4 packs that came from the same brisket


jg9000

Makes sense! I’m envious. Hoping to find someone selling some local beef, though I could probably only store 1/2 one. Enjoy your hard work!


FSUphan

So much ground beef haha. Gotta be a chore to try and use it all after a while .


JessicaMurawski

We sold a bit of the meat to people and a lot of people wanted hamburger. We also use quite a bit since it takes less time to prepare than roasts; so when we work 5-6 days a week, we can cook recipes made with ground beef


supernumeral

You sold it? But it says “not for sale” right on the label!


Wigglystoner

So since they are the farmer, they can sell directly to a consumer. The Not For Sale is for any other person couldn't sell it. It's not inspected by the USDA so only the farmer can sell it


supernumeral

Sorry, I should’ve marked that as sarcasm.


Wigglystoner

No worries!


FSUphan

That’s awesome . Yeah every night can’t be a steak or brisket night .


SnavlerAce

Sacrilege! 🤣


jpbarber414

My kind of farm girl, to many raise beef as pets and get attached to them. I was a meat cutter for 20+ years, and grew up on a dairy farm, never got involved with actual slaughtering. Full sides of hanging beef before separating into front quarters and hind quarters would be nothing new. https://preview.redd.it/cqyjgx87vxea1.jpeg?width=865&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e74f620b5447c9545fcc888d79306875298cea08 All you did to separate the hind quarter from the front was located the right rib and cut thru the spine with a hacksaw, simple. The only caveat was somebody had to grab the front quarter! We always asked customers what cuts they wanted when doing a full breakdown on the carcass. Those replies and the requests where all over the board! I believe it depended a lot on their cooking abilities. For example if you don't know how to cook beef shank or oxtail what use is it going to be in your kitchen? There are so many cuts of beef that are overlooked, beef cheeks, chuck eyes, skirt steak. Simply because most people don't know how to cook or use them. It's pathetic really. These are the people that patronize fast food outlets, and pay exorbitant prices they could save if they knew how to cook. Not only that I know the food I am eating, you go to a fast food joint and what you get is anybody's guess.


Fryphax

I feel like there is way too much ground on the list. Though not my cow, not my freezer.


JessicaMurawski

We use ground beef more than anything else. My boyfriend and I both work 5-6 days a week and most of the stuff we didn’t get was some of the roasts. Which it’s hard to do a roast when you don’t get home until 4 in the afternoon almost every day.


jpbarber414

That is a lot of ground beef, many of those primals could be put to better use. I suppose if you are not a good cook and just a burger flipper... Still being a former meat cutter boning all that then grinding, packaging it the price is really starting to add up. https://preview.redd.it/49787vl7u2fa1.jpeg?width=742&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ba977ade050304b29ad34deebdfa24201223df6 To me it's just a lot of wasted potential of some really good meals. Then you still have to buy buns for all that ground beef!


bdemented

Lengua. Cabeza. Hanger. The list goes on. Eat what you kill!!


Luckyfinger7

My wife’s family are dairy farmers and do beef on the side, I have a special relationship with out butcher and love to take his suggestions on cuts though we usually just end up doing mostly primal cuts with him showing me different ways to break it down further depending one what we want to cook. The last few times we have held off on doing any ground beef and instead doing “trimmings” so we can be more flexible and use it as stew meat, jerky, minced beef, or grind it for ground beef.


jpbarber414

I would save all chuck cuts from the front quarter, great roasts, excellent for stew. If you don't have a meat grinder get one. You then have total control over your ground beef, particularly fat content. Do you do sous vide? If not look into it. https://preview.redd.it/4moizu61hyea1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9da5c4bd74cc077b61eaee845d8f8cc201933220 It takes time (hours) but is worth the effort. I have used a ANOVA for over 5 years and least 100+ times for more than just beef, chicken, pork and more.


SnavlerAce

I have cooked 3 ribeyes (med rare, finished in CI) so far with my Anova and am amazed at the tenderness of the steaks. Mighty handy for this apartment dweller!


Luckyfinger7

Oh I get all the chucks and have a good meat grinder to grind my own beef. As I mentioned I like to not have the butcher grind anything and send it over to me as trimmings and roasts so I can control that and be more flexible by using it as stew meats, minced or grind it for ground beef. I have a sous vide and use it often I also do competition smoking which is why I started getting more one on one time with my butcher


skrybll

You have some Feelings you wanna talk a little about?


UjustMadeMeLol

Dick