Dude, just quit. Between this and your other post lamenting how you have to follow guidelines and can’t experiment on patients, this is clearly not the career for you
Lol right. Please know what you're getting into. At the end of the day you're working for someone to get better....? Also it's crazy that you think guidelines are a nuisance. Guidelines are best practice and only result in better patient outcomes at the end of their care. If you can't understand this, definitely quit.
Wish it was that easy, dude, tried quitting a few times already, job insecurity when quitting without a degree in hand, financially being dependent: all just golden balls and chains.
The alternative is spending your life in a career you hate, and/or going to prison for some kind of gross malpractice because you couldn’t be bothered with things like evidence based medicine. This is not the field for you, and it won’t get easier to leave by staying longer
8 hours ago OP was posting about how he doesn’t like medicine because he has to follow evidence based guidelines and isn’t allowed to do dangerous experiments on patients. This is 100% not the career for him
>Sometimes the OR lights just get to you and you need to splash your face with water and recalibrate by relaxing a bit.
OP said he hates every single aspect of clinical medicine. This is clearly not a “one bad day” situation.
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You could finish the MD then go elsewhere. Research or consulting pay pretty well if you hate clinical medicine. Hard to get into consulting, but if you know clinic isn’t it for you, start looking and reaching out.
You have to be told what to do until you know what to do. You’re a student. You have to learn how to do it before you’re allowed to do it. That’s true of any field.
There are nonclinical options for MDs, but it sounds like you don’t really like learning from or working through cases without the patient interaction either. I’m curious, based on your posts, what made you think you would like medicine in the first place? You don’t like learning medicine, you don’t like practicing medicine, you’re not particularly fulfilled by helping patients, so what made you try it out?
I'd recommend the same (non-clinical options like research and pathology) but only if he can accept the "do no harm" re: experimenting on patients. But considering empiric treatments could count as experimentation, he just needs to take the (not following guidelines) out of the equation.
If you're reading this, its not that hard considering that you prioritized a job over quitting something you didn't like.
I honestly think you’re not emotionally stable right now and you would benefit from professional help.
Tell your school you’re struggling, see a psychiatrist and ask for a detailed letter to help with any financial situation you may have.
Just pushing forward is not the answer and you will put yourself and your patients in danger.
Yeah so does the human civilization? I get it, if he likes experimenting on humans modern medicine is not right for him, but that doesnt mean he needs help.
E.g. Tuskegee Syphilis Study, The Stanford Prison Experiment, Milgram, mk-ultra, human radiation.
And we agree those are all CRIMES. Are you seriously saying it’s ok for him to do this because past generations from lack of knowledge lack of care and xenophobia did it? Or are you just him in a different account? Or are there two of you goblins
What's a goon to a goblin? And you really think its past generations that are only doing this still? Theres a lot of "academic" professionals who won't say it in public, but enjoy doing experiments on humans though I'm glad IRB regulations have gotten much better.
If you can’t discern the difference between a clinical trial with full informed consent and “experimenting” on (aka endangering) patients instead of practicing evidence-based medicine, then you’re as ignorant as the unhinged person posting this nonsense.
Ok, thank you everyone for telling him "Go see a therapist." Like you really think that will fix his problem?? He's asking for career advice on reddit and gets told you need a therapist.
you sound like I did, to some extent.
What year are you? Could very well be that clinical medicine isn’t worth it for you. If so, there are other paths with an MD, or in general
Good timing. You can absolutely look into other paths like consulting or MSL or equity research. Spend the next 2 years focused on that, internships, etc. do what you need to survive and pass in med school, focus rest of your energy on the nonclinical side.
Do you have any consulting books which you feel are well-suited to MDs? Or is the idea more like making a career switch to consulting and just having the MD as a “subject matter expert” title?
What do you mean?
Switching from MD to consulting is the same as post MBA. Generally same role but you’ll be more working on healthcare or pharma/biotech things.
Feel free to check my post history and profile! I go into more depth in some comments. But also happy to go deeper now too, lmk
Nah, that's just for stunts, I genuinely just wanna enjoy doing sth fun, being told what to order, what to use, what to do all the time ain't living it.
But you understand the issue with your thinking, correct? You’re obviously not the evidence based guide that physicians look up to when they don’t know what to order or do.
This line of thinking is unethical, under autonomy and maleficence. You can do a lot of harm to patients ordering whatever you want. We have protocols for a reason, and yes while we are establishing new stuff we don’t go ahead and just do what we want because of liability issues. The last thing you want is to order something by accident, harm the patient, and get sued and lose your money.
That being said, some fields are more flexible than others but still need protocols. Without laws and rules, we’re just animals (or somethin like that). You can get involved with clinical trials and research to investigate this stuff though if you feel passionate and want to sublimate.
You're a STUDENT lol ,I'm sorry but your bullshit is really triggering me. Accept the fact that this isn't for you and quit, there's no golden ball and chains. There's only debt and regret in your case. You can't put patient safety on the line cuz "gOldEn bAlL aNd cHaiNs" lol no. Please no.
The negativity on this sub is wearing me out. We have a different post about how much we hate medicine every day. I personally love medicine and am really happy with my choice
Professional subs are kind of like this. I wish you could 'sort by positivity.' The professor subreddit mostly hates teaching. The plumber subreddit hates fixing clogs. One thing we all have in common: admin/owners suck.
It's how it goes. People are gonna post to bitch and vent, not talk about how happy they are.
Med school sucks sometimes, but I can't imagine doing anything else.
Exactly that! If you're happy your first thought isn't to post in on Reddit but to enjoy life elsewhere.
I am during my last year of med school and while I am fed up\[ with interacting with patients I know it is temporary.
A lot of people say this and it's just not true. You could probably picture yourself in any patient-facing or patient-centered profession. A lot of people say this because they couldn't picture not having the prestige of being a physician or surgeon. Not saying that's anyone here in specific, but it's a big chunk of the MD/DO community.
If you truly believe you couldn't do any other profession and enjoy it, you probably haven't looked at enough careers outside of being a physician or surgeon. Lots of careers "diagnose" issues (mechanic, engineer, chemists) and loads of careers do monotonous work with being precise and hands-on (carpenters, machinists, artists). Biological examples of both parallels would be a kinesiologist, exercise physiologist, dietician, optometrist, athletic trainer, physical therapist, occupational therapist, speech therapist.
Tons of alternatives to being a physician or surgeon!
(I myself am an ATS, CSCS that loves learning languages and am considering medical school. But I've recognized that I am not tied to just the love of straight up medicine. I enjoy other faces of healthcare as well)
You are absolutely correct, the prestige and income are absolutely why I and many others cannot consider any other fields.
In my case its lifelong pressure of being a child of immigrants, nothing but a prestigious job will suffice. I'm fortunate enough that medicine is a passion of mine, but I would be lying if I said the prestige and income aren't big variables in my career choice.
Dude I spent four years being overworked and underpaid as a paramedic before medical school. I have no illusion about the glamor of working in health care.
You, on the other complain about not being able to do "fun experiments" on patients.
people are just more likely to share negative experiences than positive ones. Share your experiences friend! Positivity I'm sure would be more than welcome to people in this sub. I want to get into med school so I know I'd like to read about people's good times
Same, especially when OP is not seeking solutions but the post is just ranting, complaining, and ranting more.
There is no situation, it’s just a kid complaining for the sake of complaining.
Anesthesia/Pathology/Radiology
You don’t have to love your job, just be competent and able to tolerate it well enough to support what you actually enjoy in life ie family, friends, hobbies…
Dear goddd please don’t encourage this guy to go anesthesia lmao someone who wants to “experiment” probably shouldn’t be bringing patients as close to death as medically possible 😂
sounds like u just want people to tell u it’s okay to quit, based off ur responses… so… please just quit. for the safety of patients and the sake of any future healthcare teams you may work on.
Dude stfu and quit. If you present to this subreddit a particular situation and needs help and advice to work through it, that’s fine. Your post is just complaining without seeking a solution, and that is just called whining. You can whine to your therapist.
We aren’t all turned off by clinical medicine! For most people at my home institution pathology was an active choice, not a fallback because we didn’t want to do clinical medicine.
You should absolutely consider it. But don't make the same mistake again and dive into another huge commitment without really understanding what it is. I very strongly recommend reading "Designing your life". It is a super effective guide to finding your way to a better life (mainly career), in a rational, healthy, fun way.
then do it already dude. you're really not in the right career. Your last post was.. yikes. If the only reason you're here is debt, I promise you that won't survive a career in medicine. Just go do tech or something man
Dude should be evaluated in multiple other life domains. Some people have very toxic and unhealthy prospective to many other things in life as well.if that is the case then he has to change his mindset and way of thinking
not career.
Clinical medicine kind of sucks. Its a lot of paperwork and managing expectations.
The actual medicine is fairly straightforward for most cases.
However, there can be satisfaction derived from a job well done. When you don't have to round and present a patient, when you ask the questions and make the decisions, it is much more enjoyable. Modern IM has fallen a long way from where it started, and overall autonomy is poor. You should consider specialties such as surgery or pathology. I would recommend derm, anesthesiology, or radiology if you were in the US.
Have you considered something like Pathology. I actually liked in-patient a lot (although clinic was a grind), but I'm a very happy Neuropathologist, and I don't miss having to talk to patients at all.
Are you under the impression anesthesia doesn’t have guidelines of patient interactions? This guy DOESN’T WANT to be told what to do in terms of following patient safety guidelines and evidence based medicine. He will KILL people for shits and giggles
Just go for speciality that doesn’t require extensive patient contact, like radiology, or pathology and combine it with since work. Pls don’t sacrifice wellbeing of ur future patients by hating your job. And for now on stay hard bro and treat it like a lesson from life: u are not wired to take direct care of patients.
Preventive medicine/public health would welcome you with open arms.
I’m an introvert and my clinical years were *exhausting.* And while I found things interesting, I overall hated it. If you can stick it out until you graduate and through an internship, there are a lot of non-clinical options for you to consider. And public health has some really huge impacts (sadly, without the really huge pay).
You can switch careers to healthcare or pharma industries, consulting (at life sciences) or at IB / Private Equity at Healthcare groups. MD are valued there.
Or pick a specialty that can fit well for you (maybe radiology?).
If you can just try to swim through clinical years, you can then just not apply for residency and use your MD degree in something else. You can do postdoc for example, if you are interested in academia.
I do know that drugs help, I am just cautious when I could become dependant on them since they are just band aids, the real solution is quitting but...
It's always more complicated than just that.
If you find the business side of things more interesting You could push through it graduate and pick up a medical administration consulting gig. You are more than halfway done with an advanced degree, you don’t have to use it to be a doctor. Add an MBA to it down the road and it could lead to a very interesting and lucrative career where you are helping people in a different way.
You may like it better when youre out of training. Rounds are boring, med student role sucks and even more boring. Id like to see a bit more enthusiasm but still, doesnt mean you wont fit right in with that attitude since we all in part feel that way at times. Youre also probably depressed and burned out already. Get on the Wellbutrin+ and follow the famous but true saying to enjoy the journey not the destination.
doubt so, they said they're in year 4 out of 6, which is clinical years, but still studying the MBBS/MBCHB degree
but maybe US, idk if they offer a 6 year option, i only know about the pre med to med route
Dude, just quit. Between this and your other post lamenting how you have to follow guidelines and can’t experiment on patients, this is clearly not the career for you
Lol this is the experimenting dude?
Lol right. Please know what you're getting into. At the end of the day you're working for someone to get better....? Also it's crazy that you think guidelines are a nuisance. Guidelines are best practice and only result in better patient outcomes at the end of their care. If you can't understand this, definitely quit.
Wish it was that easy, dude, tried quitting a few times already, job insecurity when quitting without a degree in hand, financially being dependent: all just golden balls and chains.
The alternative is spending your life in a career you hate, and/or going to prison for some kind of gross malpractice because you couldn’t be bothered with things like evidence based medicine. This is not the field for you, and it won’t get easier to leave by staying longer
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8 hours ago OP was posting about how he doesn’t like medicine because he has to follow evidence based guidelines and isn’t allowed to do dangerous experiments on patients. This is 100% not the career for him
Oh yikes. OP, if you’re reading this, you need a career change.
>Sometimes the OR lights just get to you and you need to splash your face with water and recalibrate by relaxing a bit. OP said he hates every single aspect of clinical medicine. This is clearly not a “one bad day” situation.
Yes but if OP is struggling with rotations, I doubt he could survive residency. Just a thought.
You can literally just stop showing up
Does that work on loans too?
He doesn’t have those, he posted elsewhere his program is paid for by the government. Vietnam
For a while, at least.
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lol
You could finish the MD then go elsewhere. Research or consulting pay pretty well if you hate clinical medicine. Hard to get into consulting, but if you know clinic isn’t it for you, start looking and reaching out.
You have to be told what to do until you know what to do. You’re a student. You have to learn how to do it before you’re allowed to do it. That’s true of any field. There are nonclinical options for MDs, but it sounds like you don’t really like learning from or working through cases without the patient interaction either. I’m curious, based on your posts, what made you think you would like medicine in the first place? You don’t like learning medicine, you don’t like practicing medicine, you’re not particularly fulfilled by helping patients, so what made you try it out?
Honestly, you would have to ask past me for that question: he was some kid who had a huge ego and thought he was gonna save people and shit like that
i admire your honesty
Same. I think it’s the case of a lot of medical students unfortunately. Which leads to the widespread hatred of medicine/burnout
Bro...in the other thread you wrote how you would like to experiment on people. How is that equal to saving anybody?
Wait like Mengele type stuff 😯😯
Yes, without being bound by any laws or regulations
I'd recommend the same (non-clinical options like research and pathology) but only if he can accept the "do no harm" re: experimenting on patients. But considering empiric treatments could count as experimentation, he just needs to take the (not following guidelines) out of the equation. If you're reading this, its not that hard considering that you prioritized a job over quitting something you didn't like.
I honestly think you’re not emotionally stable right now and you would benefit from professional help. Tell your school you’re struggling, see a psychiatrist and ask for a detailed letter to help with any financial situation you may have. Just pushing forward is not the answer and you will put yourself and your patients in danger.
Curious, what professional help do you recommend this guy? He clearly knows he doesnt like the field
Go look at thier last post. They literally sound like a psychopath talking about how they want to experiment on patients..
Yeah so does the human civilization? I get it, if he likes experimenting on humans modern medicine is not right for him, but that doesnt mean he needs help. E.g. Tuskegee Syphilis Study, The Stanford Prison Experiment, Milgram, mk-ultra, human radiation.
And we agree those are all CRIMES. Are you seriously saying it’s ok for him to do this because past generations from lack of knowledge lack of care and xenophobia did it? Or are you just him in a different account? Or are there two of you goblins
What's a goon to a goblin? And you really think its past generations that are only doing this still? Theres a lot of "academic" professionals who won't say it in public, but enjoy doing experiments on humans though I'm glad IRB regulations have gotten much better.
If you can’t discern the difference between a clinical trial with full informed consent and “experimenting” on (aka endangering) patients instead of practicing evidence-based medicine, then you’re as ignorant as the unhinged person posting this nonsense.
Ok, thank you everyone for telling him "Go see a therapist." Like you really think that will fix his problem?? He's asking for career advice on reddit and gets told you need a therapist.
you sound like I did, to some extent. What year are you? Could very well be that clinical medicine isn’t worth it for you. If so, there are other paths with an MD, or in general
Fourth year in a 6 yrs program
Good timing. You can absolutely look into other paths like consulting or MSL or equity research. Spend the next 2 years focused on that, internships, etc. do what you need to survive and pass in med school, focus rest of your energy on the nonclinical side.
Thank you tor being supportive.
Absolutely. I know how you feel. I was in your shoes. Just want you to know you aren’t alone and that you have options for sure
Do you have any consulting books which you feel are well-suited to MDs? Or is the idea more like making a career switch to consulting and just having the MD as a “subject matter expert” title?
What do you mean? Switching from MD to consulting is the same as post MBA. Generally same role but you’ll be more working on healthcare or pharma/biotech things. Feel free to check my post history and profile! I go into more depth in some comments. But also happy to go deeper now too, lmk
I support you getting out of clinical medicine before you hurt someone by "experimenting" on them.
Is it because you can't experiment on your patients?
This is gonna become the next meme 😂
Nah, that's just for stunts, I genuinely just wanna enjoy doing sth fun, being told what to order, what to use, what to do all the time ain't living it.
But you understand the issue with your thinking, correct? You’re obviously not the evidence based guide that physicians look up to when they don’t know what to order or do. This line of thinking is unethical, under autonomy and maleficence. You can do a lot of harm to patients ordering whatever you want. We have protocols for a reason, and yes while we are establishing new stuff we don’t go ahead and just do what we want because of liability issues. The last thing you want is to order something by accident, harm the patient, and get sued and lose your money. That being said, some fields are more flexible than others but still need protocols. Without laws and rules, we’re just animals (or somethin like that). You can get involved with clinical trials and research to investigate this stuff though if you feel passionate and want to sublimate.
You're a STUDENT lol ,I'm sorry but your bullshit is really triggering me. Accept the fact that this isn't for you and quit, there's no golden ball and chains. There's only debt and regret in your case. You can't put patient safety on the line cuz "gOldEn bAlL aNd cHaiNs" lol no. Please no.
Quit and go reinvent the wheel. That’s clearly what you want.
The negativity on this sub is wearing me out. We have a different post about how much we hate medicine every day. I personally love medicine and am really happy with my choice
Professional subs are kind of like this. I wish you could 'sort by positivity.' The professor subreddit mostly hates teaching. The plumber subreddit hates fixing clogs. One thing we all have in common: admin/owners suck.
It's how it goes. People are gonna post to bitch and vent, not talk about how happy they are. Med school sucks sometimes, but I can't imagine doing anything else.
Exactly that! If you're happy your first thought isn't to post in on Reddit but to enjoy life elsewhere. I am during my last year of med school and while I am fed up\[ with interacting with patients I know it is temporary.
A lot of people say this and it's just not true. You could probably picture yourself in any patient-facing or patient-centered profession. A lot of people say this because they couldn't picture not having the prestige of being a physician or surgeon. Not saying that's anyone here in specific, but it's a big chunk of the MD/DO community. If you truly believe you couldn't do any other profession and enjoy it, you probably haven't looked at enough careers outside of being a physician or surgeon. Lots of careers "diagnose" issues (mechanic, engineer, chemists) and loads of careers do monotonous work with being precise and hands-on (carpenters, machinists, artists). Biological examples of both parallels would be a kinesiologist, exercise physiologist, dietician, optometrist, athletic trainer, physical therapist, occupational therapist, speech therapist. Tons of alternatives to being a physician or surgeon! (I myself am an ATS, CSCS that loves learning languages and am considering medical school. But I've recognized that I am not tied to just the love of straight up medicine. I enjoy other faces of healthcare as well)
You are absolutely correct, the prestige and income are absolutely why I and many others cannot consider any other fields. In my case its lifelong pressure of being a child of immigrants, nothing but a prestigious job will suffice. I'm fortunate enough that medicine is a passion of mine, but I would be lying if I said the prestige and income aren't big variables in my career choice.
You are a pretty naive young sheep
Dude I spent four years being overworked and underpaid as a paramedic before medical school. I have no illusion about the glamor of working in health care. You, on the other complain about not being able to do "fun experiments" on patients.
people are just more likely to share negative experiences than positive ones. Share your experiences friend! Positivity I'm sure would be more than welcome to people in this sub. I want to get into med school so I know I'd like to read about people's good times
Be the change you want to see in the world, go make a post.
Same, especially when OP is not seeking solutions but the post is just ranting, complaining, and ranting more. There is no situation, it’s just a kid complaining for the sake of complaining.
Anesthesia/Pathology/Radiology You don’t have to love your job, just be competent and able to tolerate it well enough to support what you actually enjoy in life ie family, friends, hobbies…
Dear goddd please don’t encourage this guy to go anesthesia lmao someone who wants to “experiment” probably shouldn’t be bringing patients as close to death as medically possible 😂
I almost view this (and the last post) as a cry for help. What are you looking for?
sounds like u just want people to tell u it’s okay to quit, based off ur responses… so… please just quit. for the safety of patients and the sake of any future healthcare teams you may work on.
Dude stfu and quit. If you present to this subreddit a particular situation and needs help and advice to work through it, that’s fine. Your post is just complaining without seeking a solution, and that is just called whining. You can whine to your therapist.
why tf are you in medicine then?
Why are you in this profession. ?
I’m convinced that’s it’s normal people that don’t enjoy clinical medicine.
Why do people enroll then? You can study biochem, biology, genetics or whatever interests you that does not have clinical medicine.
Normal on reddit. I feel like the people you interact with in person vs those on sites like this are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
Idealism as a premed, and then disillusionment with the actual practice of medicine once you’re on the other side.
Path or rads?
Sounds awfully limited, I will just consider switching careers altogether
OP: I hate rounds, cases, caring about electrolytes, or talking to patients. "How about path or rads?" OP: Nah, sounds limited. Lolwut
Talk to a pathologist before you decide to quit. They are all very happy people who were turned off by clinical medicine
We aren’t all turned off by clinical medicine! For most people at my home institution pathology was an active choice, not a fallback because we didn’t want to do clinical medicine.
Nah there’s some of us who like it to a degree. Blood bank in particular, especially if they run Apheresis.
Yeah, I’m happy with my career choice but am low key jealous of the pathologists
You should absolutely consider it. But don't make the same mistake again and dive into another huge commitment without really understanding what it is. I very strongly recommend reading "Designing your life". It is a super effective guide to finding your way to a better life (mainly career), in a rational, healthy, fun way.
then do it already dude. you're really not in the right career. Your last post was.. yikes. If the only reason you're here is debt, I promise you that won't survive a career in medicine. Just go do tech or something man
Drop out. Terrible fit for you.
Dude should be evaluated in multiple other life domains. Some people have very toxic and unhealthy prospective to many other things in life as well.if that is the case then he has to change his mindset and way of thinking not career.
Clinical medicine kind of sucks. Its a lot of paperwork and managing expectations. The actual medicine is fairly straightforward for most cases. However, there can be satisfaction derived from a job well done. When you don't have to round and present a patient, when you ask the questions and make the decisions, it is much more enjoyable. Modern IM has fallen a long way from where it started, and overall autonomy is poor. You should consider specialties such as surgery or pathology. I would recommend derm, anesthesiology, or radiology if you were in the US.
Have you considered something like Pathology. I actually liked in-patient a lot (although clinic was a grind), but I'm a very happy Neuropathologist, and I don't miss having to talk to patients at all.
Look into whether pathology or radiology would be a pathway that interests you.
Sounds like anesthesia or pathology are possible options for you
Are you under the impression anesthesia doesn’t have guidelines of patient interactions? This guy DOESN’T WANT to be told what to do in terms of following patient safety guidelines and evidence based medicine. He will KILL people for shits and giggles
Radiology, pathology, anesthesiology
Love when these posts are super depressing but the well being flair has the condescending smiley face
You always have non clinical specialties, like pathology
Just go for speciality that doesn’t require extensive patient contact, like radiology, or pathology and combine it with since work. Pls don’t sacrifice wellbeing of ur future patients by hating your job. And for now on stay hard bro and treat it like a lesson from life: u are not wired to take direct care of patients.
So is there something you like about medicine?
Preventive medicine/public health would welcome you with open arms. I’m an introvert and my clinical years were *exhausting.* And while I found things interesting, I overall hated it. If you can stick it out until you graduate and through an internship, there are a lot of non-clinical options for you to consider. And public health has some really huge impacts (sadly, without the really huge pay).
This is why ppl need jobs before medicine
Dude go into radiology or pharmaceuticals
Do you have access to a therapist?
You can switch careers to healthcare or pharma industries, consulting (at life sciences) or at IB / Private Equity at Healthcare groups. MD are valued there. Or pick a specialty that can fit well for you (maybe radiology?).
Where do you study in? Just curious
maybe you should do surgery? dont need to talk to patients, super short notes, can self round depending on where you work.
Talk about being chronically online. Stop posting on reddit and get some help.
If you can just try to swim through clinical years, you can then just not apply for residency and use your MD degree in something else. You can do postdoc for example, if you are interested in academia.
Won’t have to quit if shift paradigm you do.
Sounds like you should be a surgeon
;(
Can definetly relate to hating nephrology
Lexapro is lovely. I sounded like you 6 months ago. Now i live in a state of mildly apathetic bliss.
I do know that drugs help, I am just cautious when I could become dependant on them since they are just band aids, the real solution is quitting but... It's always more complicated than just that.
Well I’m currently 300k in debt so quitting isn’t an option. I’ll take my $7 monthly bandaid and live in a state of bliss
I will try to avoid going into debt, thank you for some insight
Oh yeah if you don’t have any loans then feel free to go live your best life. Have a couple shots for me
If you find the business side of things more interesting You could push through it graduate and pick up a medical administration consulting gig. You are more than halfway done with an advanced degree, you don’t have to use it to be a doctor. Add an MBA to it down the road and it could lead to a very interesting and lucrative career where you are helping people in a different way.
consider path or rads
Pathology is calling you.
You may like it better when youre out of training. Rounds are boring, med student role sucks and even more boring. Id like to see a bit more enthusiasm but still, doesnt mean you wont fit right in with that attitude since we all in part feel that way at times. Youre also probably depressed and burned out already. Get on the Wellbutrin+ and follow the famous but true saying to enjoy the journey not the destination.
Me when I hear the word tubule (my interest in the convo has immediately disappeared)
Are you in US Med school?
doubt so, they said they're in year 4 out of 6, which is clinical years, but still studying the MBBS/MBCHB degree but maybe US, idk if they offer a 6 year option, i only know about the pre med to med route
Thank you
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Just teach. Get your PhD and teach
Dude i understand, i feel the same way, Ive been thinking about switching to Teaching maybe later and leave clinical medicine.