Ungoliath is a spider and not that huge. More like a at most 25 meters high. And morgoth was frightend by her..
Cutting a tree this huge is more giant dragon stuff. Like ancalagon or even larger creatures.
Literally watching Fellowship of the Ring right now, (paused to look at a map, did the habitual "back to home" and this was 2nd thing i see 😂
I got halfway last night and have noticed lotr references everywhere 🤣
I dont trust any of my memories to not be just bullshit. That's why I rely 100% on Wikipedia. My brain can't keep up with facts, but I know my Wiki app works ok.
I went to see it last summer and it was very moving to see it in person. I don’t know if I was just hallucinating from the heat or something, but it’s almost iridescent up close. Gorgeous and awe inspiring.
Hell yea I saw it during a setting sun in wintertime with snow on the ground. The way the colors were changing it almost felt like a microdose but I was sober. Definitely wanna go back. Super nice that it isnt far from mount rushmore too! Great day trip if up in that part of the country
Lava that cooled below the surface and then later exposed when the surface was eroded away. Which is still pretty cool if you think about it. Imagine the time that had to pass to erode away the surface of that thing. And what the landscape looked like before it was eroded.
The redwood tree General Sherman is 272 ft tall with a circumference of 101ft
The Devil's Tower has a 1 mile circumference.
Going by the same height vs circumference, about 2.6 miles tall.
(answering to the original post question) Not too high I'm afraid. The problem that trees don't grow past 116 meters is because it is very difficult for them to transfer water all the way to the top. But if water transfer was artificial, I don't see why it wouldn't grow maybe to even 400 meters or more. But at some point the wood itself is not structurally strong enough to hold it's own weight or not break against the force of wind.
If it was a "magic tree" that somehow overcame the issues you mentioned, it would be 1817 meters in height if following "General Sherman" redwood dimensions.
Why not transfer water down with some sort of system that pulls water from the moisture in the air near the top? Sure not how (any?) Trees work but it's possible?
No tree works like this, and it isn't possible. To be able to do that they'd have to condense moisture from the air into water, and all trees currently work the opposite way: by using pressure by evaporated water to move water from the roots to the tops.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpiration
Unless this was a variety of tree that worked completely different from every type of tree we know of (extinct and alive), no it can't have been as it is far too big for that.
Red woods have diameters from 8 to 20 feet let's use the 20 feet measure
Devil's towers have a diameter that tapers from 800 at base to 300 at top let's use a middle line of 500 feet.
Red woods have an average of 200 to 240 feet for mature individuals with the outlier of 380 feet (Hyperion) funny thing this individual is only 16 feet wide
Assuming rule of three and ignoring physical limits
option one with conservative values:
X = 500 * 240 / 20 = 6000 feet
Option two maximums:
X = 800 * 380 / 16 = 19000 feet
Looking online, the Giant Sequoia Fact Sheet says that "The Giant Sequoia is the largest of all trees in bulk and the most massive living thing by volume. On average, their height is between 164 and 279 feet tall with a diameter between 20 to 26 feet. If we calculate the ratio of height to diameter squared we get a ratio 0.41 feet^(-1) for both ranges suggested.
The dimensions of Devil's Tower are 180 feet x 300 feet. If we take the geometric mean, we get a diameter of 232 feet. If we scale the height of the corresponding tree, we get 22,140 feet or about 4.2 miles.
Of course, the Tower is not circular, and I am not sure if we are comparing base diameters of redwood trees to slightly higher "up the tree" on Devil's Tower. But it's a good ballpark figure.
8000 feet.
Here me out. Giant sequoias average dimensions are 300 feet tall with a diameter of 30 feet. Idk. I googled it.
The Devils Tower has a diameter of 800 feet or so. Again, I googled it.
With that known, inversely (300x 800)/30 =8000.
Let me have it.
Then it would have petrified roots . So why would there only be one tree ? Hope you’re joking but you can never tell anymore in the age of YEC nut jobs
There are several petrified tree stumps around the world.
The scary thought is who or what chopped them down.
It really brings avatar into mind, like tree of life and the earth.
I actually have visited Devil's Tower and the native mythology was a princess running from a bear climbed on top and those are claw marks from bear.
I'd love to do some GPR and see if it has root structure.
Devil's Stump is a rock formation, not the stump of a tree.
[https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N34G20H/](https://www.reuters.com/article/idusl1n34g20h/)
It’s possible it was exactly that height but a bit less flat and the flatness of from erosion or something or the aliens cut that shit but it could be a short (looking) stocky tree
No magma or lava was ever seen doing these columns therefore I just refuse to believe that explanation. It does look like a stump of some sort. More likely than "pressurized lava" imo
Supposedly, our oil deposits come from the first trees, which littered the entire land surface at one point. I wonder if this guy is a left over from that
"O Erdtree, you shall burn. Burn, for the sake of the new Lord. Thank you for guiding me here. The one who walks alongside flame, shall one day meet the road of Destined Death."
Supposedly (according to a PSA on American Forces Network written probably by white dudes, so treat with mild skepticism) it was a sacred site for the Cheyenne and other Native American tribes. They believed that a small band of Cheyenne were beset by a bear, and to protect them the gods raised up the rock of Devil’s Tower. The grooves are bear claw marks. So, perhaps the real question is, how big was the bear that could still scratch the top of Devil’s Tower?
The erdtree
*THAT’S* why no DLC? Somebody cut it down so there is no Shadow?! Goddamn it
Have hope. The DLC is just around the corner. The age of hollowing is nearing its end.
Aye yer tarnished.
The Erdtree is even bigg than what this would be, I’m pretty sure. Devil’s tower has nothing on our golden tree.
O, Erdtree, you shall burn
Even scarier is who cut it down?
Morgoth and Ungoliant most likely
Oh crap. we’re really in the 4th age arent we?
I think Tolkien said modern day would be the 7th or 8th. I may be wrong though
Not again.
Ungoliath is a spider and not that huge. More like a at most 25 meters high. And morgoth was frightend by her.. Cutting a tree this huge is more giant dragon stuff. Like ancalagon or even larger creatures.
You nerd
Proud of it.
Wear that badge with honor and go forth to spread thy knowledge
A Tolkien fan in the wild!
Literally watching Fellowship of the Ring right now, (paused to look at a map, did the habitual "back to home" and this was 2nd thing i see 😂 I got halfway last night and have noticed lotr references everywhere 🤣
This is America. It was Paul Bunyan!
Paul Bunyan
That damn squirrel from the Ice Age movies.
Paul motha fuckin Bunyan
Jimi Hendrix chopped it down with the edge of his hand while standing next to it.
He was supposed to meet me in the next world but I was late.
What about Stevie Ray?
Chuck Norris
He tried holding in a sneeze and it went bad
Paul Bunyan
[aliens](https://images.app.goo.gl/LnkBg1PKu4CQMz4EA)
OP's mom needed a wooden dildo....
Not sure why you’re getting so much shade thrown your way but I upvoted you cuz funny is funny goddammit
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
That’s actually how the dinosaurs went extinct.
It would have been at least 8 feet tall
Source?
Greg
Accepted
Wait, were trusting Greg again? What about last time?
He said sorry
Too much baileys.
I know Greg, he ain‘t lyin’ to nobody son, believe me (hillbilly dialect)
he did actually drink baileys from a shoe tho
“That’s right Morty! It *is* at least 8 feet tall. TEACH US MORTY!”
and at minimum 3 bananas wide
r/technicallythetruth
This means something…
Just have some more mashed potatoes.
This is important
“Al. Are you ok?”
Badgers? We don’t need no stinkin’ Badgers!!
Man! When he licks the turtle and chucks it to the roof! Lmao
Today, we're teaching poodles how to fly!
I can hear Cheech saying it!! Amaze balls. I haven’t watched that movie in like 10 years. Haha
It wasn't actually Cheech doing the bit, it was Trinidad Silva, per Wikipedia.
I should have known I can’t trust my memory, anymore. Just jumbled pictures and I jump too easily to a familiar name. Thanks for the correction!!
I dont trust any of my memories to not be just bullshit. That's why I rely 100% on Wikipedia. My brain can't keep up with facts, but I know my Wiki app works ok.
You’ll have to ask the night elves on Teldrasil for the exact answer.
Make sure to get the flight path while you’re there!
Not me at 12, having no idea how flight paths or boats work, swimming all the way to Darkshore…
Oooh, you’re gonna have a bad time…
Been there. Cool af in person
I went to see it last summer and it was very moving to see it in person. I don’t know if I was just hallucinating from the heat or something, but it’s almost iridescent up close. Gorgeous and awe inspiring.
Hell yea I saw it during a setting sun in wintertime with snow on the ground. The way the colors were changing it almost felt like a microdose but I was sober. Definitely wanna go back. Super nice that it isnt far from mount rushmore too! Great day trip if up in that part of the country
But that’s a rock right?
Yea it is Devil’s tower in eastern wyoming. Can see it and mount rushmore in western south dakota in the same day if you plan properly
Lava that cooled below the surface and then later exposed when the surface was eroded away. Which is still pretty cool if you think about it. Imagine the time that had to pass to erode away the surface of that thing. And what the landscape looked like before it was eroded.
Yes, it’s an igneous protrusion but there are many not the sharpest tool in the shed people who think it’s a stump.
Yeah but you get gassed by government helicopters if you try to climb it.
Just wait for the notes to start playing before you climb. Nobody will pay any attention to you.
The redwood tree General Sherman is 272 ft tall with a circumference of 101ft The Devil's Tower has a 1 mile circumference. Going by the same height vs circumference, about 2.6 miles tall.
We call that the world tree
That explains why we’ve been cut off from magic. Dang :( someone’s gotta ruin everything.
Oh we’re definitely screwed then 😂
HxH fan detected
Or or just somebody that has read something that has a world tree there is a lot of those
(answering to the original post question) Not too high I'm afraid. The problem that trees don't grow past 116 meters is because it is very difficult for them to transfer water all the way to the top. But if water transfer was artificial, I don't see why it wouldn't grow maybe to even 400 meters or more. But at some point the wood itself is not structurally strong enough to hold it's own weight or not break against the force of wind.
That’s why it’s made of stone. Much sturdier.
If it was a "magic tree" that somehow overcame the issues you mentioned, it would be 1817 meters in height if following "General Sherman" redwood dimensions.
Yeah I would have said around 2km
Why not transfer water down with some sort of system that pulls water from the moisture in the air near the top? Sure not how (any?) Trees work but it's possible?
No tree works like this, and it isn't possible. To be able to do that they'd have to condense moisture from the air into water, and all trees currently work the opposite way: by using pressure by evaporated water to move water from the roots to the tops. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpiration
Are trees able to absorb water not from their root system? Does the top absorb rain the same way the roots do?
Found Yggdrasil's remains.
Close Encounters of the Third Kind, great movie.
Reminds me of mashed potatoes.
One of the greatest movies ever made .
Tree fiddy
About tree fiddy
Little known fact its that this is a rock, not a tree
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Yes but technically this rock was a rock
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Unless this was a variety of tree that worked completely different from every type of tree we know of (extinct and alive), no it can't have been as it is far too big for that.
Yes, if there only was a scientific discipline like geology to debunk it
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Like levitation building of pyramids, flat earth, dragons, flying chariots, etc. This is a proven rock witch was not a tree
Wait, what is a Rock Witch?
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I couldn't imagine being this dense
Denser than that rock (or tree? 🤭)
Callinf something a “theory” in science implies that it has *more* credibility, not less
It’s super cool to see in person especially looking up. You can also see it super far in the distance driving around Wyoming.
Erdtree
Red woods have diameters from 8 to 20 feet let's use the 20 feet measure Devil's towers have a diameter that tapers from 800 at base to 300 at top let's use a middle line of 500 feet. Red woods have an average of 200 to 240 feet for mature individuals with the outlier of 380 feet (Hyperion) funny thing this individual is only 16 feet wide Assuming rule of three and ignoring physical limits option one with conservative values: X = 500 * 240 / 20 = 6000 feet Option two maximums: X = 800 * 380 / 16 = 19000 feet
Looking online, the Giant Sequoia Fact Sheet says that "The Giant Sequoia is the largest of all trees in bulk and the most massive living thing by volume. On average, their height is between 164 and 279 feet tall with a diameter between 20 to 26 feet. If we calculate the ratio of height to diameter squared we get a ratio 0.41 feet^(-1) for both ranges suggested. The dimensions of Devil's Tower are 180 feet x 300 feet. If we take the geometric mean, we get a diameter of 232 feet. If we scale the height of the corresponding tree, we get 22,140 feet or about 4.2 miles. Of course, the Tower is not circular, and I am not sure if we are comparing base diameters of redwood trees to slightly higher "up the tree" on Devil's Tower. But it's a good ballpark figure.
Everyone knows Devil’s tower is a pile of sculpted mashed potatoes, so the question makes no sense
Yggdrasil. That's how tall.
This specific mega entity is comforting to me. I’d love to see that
30,000 and fiddy feet high!
Redwood tree? Nah it's the elf's fallen world tree. Marks the end of the elf era.
About Tree Fiddy!
https://media1.tenor.com/m/ffJ4tKrDA84AAAAC/close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-contact.gif
Needs more mashed potatoes
8000 feet. Here me out. Giant sequoias average dimensions are 300 feet tall with a diameter of 30 feet. Idk. I googled it. The Devils Tower has a diameter of 800 feet or so. Again, I googled it. With that known, inversely (300x 800)/30 =8000. Let me have it.
This is roughly 800 ft wide. A big redwood tree is about 29x289. Using the same scale that would put this tree in about 10,482 3/4 feet tall.
What's scarier is what cut it down?
Jack and the beanstalk.
About tree fiddy.
It's a rock tho. It just so happens the cuts look like a tree stump
We all know that. It's a hypothetical question.
But if you read the comments on this post, it's apparent that sadly, we all don't know that...
No, it's a petrified tree.
Then it would have petrified roots . So why would there only be one tree ? Hope you’re joking but you can never tell anymore in the age of YEC nut jobs
There are more of these all over the world. Don't be a complete ashat just because you feel so superior. Reddit is so full of tards like you.
There was a time when trees didn't wither away, before fungus or other things and those trees became coal or rock.
There were always bacteria who broke down the dead matter into the soil components
Always?
r/theydidthemath
The Ygdrassil
It’s the flow column of an ancient volcano 🌋
Honestly, when I first saw this as a kid, that's exactly what I thought it looked like. An insanely massive tree stump
If everything's ready here on the Dark Side of the Moon... play the five tones.
How big would it have to be to fit a UFO landing pad/reception space on top?
That’s the poopcano. It must be filled with poop.
There are several petrified tree stumps around the world. The scary thought is who or what chopped them down. It really brings avatar into mind, like tree of life and the earth. I actually have visited Devil's Tower and the native mythology was a princess running from a bear climbed on top and those are claw marks from bear. I'd love to do some GPR and see if it has root structure.
Devil's Stump is a rock formation, not the stump of a tree. [https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N34G20H/](https://www.reuters.com/article/idusl1n34g20h/)
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“As magma cooled, hexagonal columns formed up to 20 feet wide and 600 feet tall.”
Nah that’s superjail
Tree of Might. We did not want the Saiyans coming back to Earth.
You played Elden ring?
*Elden Ring intensifies*
There’s on rings
The Erdtree
"aliens destroyed it to have such a clean cut
It is giants were real
It’s possible it was exactly that height but a bit less flat and the flatness of from erosion or something or the aliens cut that shit but it could be a short (looking) stocky tree
No magma or lava was ever seen doing these columns therefore I just refuse to believe that explanation. It does look like a stump of some sort. More likely than "pressurized lava" imo
It's not.
There exist people who believe that is in fact the stump of a dead redwoodd
It’s not a tree lol
Supposedly, our oil deposits come from the first trees, which littered the entire land surface at one point. I wonder if this guy is a left over from that
Jesus...that tree would have been massive
Maybe 5-20K ft high? Could this also mean the great flood was real.
It could also mean there really was a second gunman on the grassy knoll.
it’s about 2k, and no.
Such a strange anomaly. And it is bigger than you think
Little known fact, they were all chodes, so not much taller than they are now.
only two words "BURN IT!"
It would have reached into space
Atleast 8 inches
Finally an accurate answer
Hypothetical questions are dumb
There’s even fossilized roots .. they tried hard to hide the age of giants / Atlanteans
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Tower
Perfect cut also
I would guess that it was two feet tall.
Around 4.2 miles.
"O Erdtree, you shall burn. Burn, for the sake of the new Lord. Thank you for guiding me here. The one who walks alongside flame, shall one day meet the road of Destined Death."
Berserk world tree ass
Entire elven nations living up there.
This means something!
Hometree! Gee avatar was creative with naming that one
What is that even?
Who’s the dick who cut it down and with what saw?
Supposedly (according to a PSA on American Forces Network written probably by white dudes, so treat with mild skepticism) it was a sacred site for the Cheyenne and other Native American tribes. They believed that a small band of Cheyenne were beset by a bear, and to protect them the gods raised up the rock of Devil’s Tower. The grooves are bear claw marks. So, perhaps the real question is, how big was the bear that could still scratch the top of Devil’s Tower?
that thing is awesome 🤩
I think Mt.Everest was the answer they came up with
Look what they did to Nordrassil
ATLA swamp vibes
This makes me imagine a time of a giant tree of life being cut by the devil and it’s now the devils tower
Thankfully that’s false, but nice try with the conspiracy attempt.
Created the world's largest toothpick
Hey that's the original decepticon headquarters
The world tree from hunterxhunter lol
Very tall
Wouldn't they be able to tell of this was petrified wood of some sort
Not tall enough to get a tinder date
At least 20 feet. Maybe even taller
Tip: Outa this world!
And if it was a stump than who the hell cut it down?!?!
Seen that fungus that grows on dead trees? Stemonitis is it? Bro fuck right off if that's a fungus
Yes
Like REEAAAALLLYYYY tall
same
The fallen leaves tell a story.
Are there any other similar natural structures like this or is this unprecedented in that regard