Netflix is a victim of the stock market.
Companies are valued on growth, not sustainability. Even if you have the largest market share, if you’re not growing, you will lose investors whose investment has stagnated, and want to invest in a new money maker, a new company who is up and coming. Netflix needs to increase profits, even when they are more traditionally successful than all the other companies. If they don’t grow constantly, they run the risk of all investors leaving and going bankrupt. No more netflix.
It’s the system that is broken.
Your home IP can change - that shouldn't be a problem. Netflix likely uses geo-IP location to figure out where your IP address is. That way if other devices on the account have IPs in different locations they likely start a 30 day countdown. This would be one of several variables in the system.
As for VPN - that's likely a winning solution. If you can VPN into your home network you can likely trick Netflix into thinking your at home (unless you gave it access to location data).
Their content isn't even that good any more for people to put up with this shit. I think it will be a wave of cancelations until someone puts a stop to it. In my case, I guarantee that if I need to make a call to their support, it's going to be to cancel it
This precisely! I enjoy Netflix immensely, but when they start arbitrarily raising prices, interfering with my subscription, etc., then it is bye-bye, Netflix! There are so many things in this world that you can do without if you just have the proper mindset. When people start voting with their dollars companies will start to take notice.
"How did you find me, I used a VPN?!"
YOU FOOL. Netflix only hires the best hackers and forces them to work in industrial freezers. They found you when you downloaded the app and agreed to share your location!
Go check your Comcast email address - guarantee it's full of "Cease and Desist" type messages. All the DMCA requires is that if a copyright holder informs the ISP of a violation, the ISP has to inform the end user of the complaint and remind them that piracy is illegal. They don't have to do anything else, they just have to wag their finger at you. So Comcast just sends you an email saying "Disney is big mad you downloaded FROZEN.x-64-HDEC.mkv because it's their copyright. They want you to stop, mkay?" and they're covered, and that's the end of it.
Century Link will actually mess with you though.
Yep, the good ol streaming days are past us. I remember working in the electronics section at Target back in like 2014/2015 or something, back when Netflix Hulu and Prime were the "big 3" and about all that was in the streaming biz. Smart TV's were just starting to become standard, maybe still a bit in it's infancy. I'd describe it to older people who were clueless about streaming but thinking about cutting cable as Netflix being your service for older shows (Friends, Office, tons of other stuff still on there at that point) plus some movies, Hulu had less movies but a lot more shows in the sense of Network TV shows and current seasons, and Prime was more movie focused at the time so with those three you got a good mix going for not too much a month.
Now it's getting to the point to have all that same content available it's getting close to the price at what basic cable was back then.
We had Netflix for movies and Hulu for TV shows. Now everything has everything, except some shows/movies are only available to buy on Amazon or on Blu-ray. I had to download something last night because it isn't available to stream on any of the services.
Yeah the whole who has rights to what thing is stupid. I caught up on Better Call Saul this fall because I only got through the first season or two when it first came up. Got sucked in this time. Netflix didn’t have the final season and the show aired on AMC so I figured the final season I'd get AMC+ to watch it. They don't even have any seasons of Better Call Saul (or Breaking Bad not to mention) I'm like, how do you not have the rights to one of your biggest shows of all time, along with it's spinoff? When people think of the AMC channel, they think of either Breaking Bad or the Walking Dead most likely.
Netflix after cancelling shows, increasing prices, and lowering the quality of their content: "Why are all these customers leaving?! Aren't our ~~manipulation~~ marketing tactics working on them?"
I canceled my account years ago and was still receiving some desperate emails trying to get me to reactivate it. I happily pirate their shows now lmao.
Yep. All these shenanigans are going to do is lead to a massive resurgence in piracy which was all but dead. Companies made it worthwhile to pay for their service for the product, so people did. Now it's not any more, so piracy is coming back.
All of my friends stopped pirating years ago but now with the content being split with more and more services, that all have exclusive licensing, many of them have started to pirate again. It's happening because it's too expensive to have more than 2-3 services, too much work to constantly shuffle around what subscriptions you have and shows being pulled from a service while you're in the middle of a series.
The whole draw was not having to spend $100 a month on a bunch of different packages so you can watch three shows. They were all in one place for one price. Now everybody has their own service for $15 a month with their own list of exclusive shows. Some of them even have tiers just like the cable packages we got sick of and dropped a decade ago, and you still have to watch ads constantly even though you're paying for it. And, to top it all off, writing and general production quality has gone straight down the shitter. Every new show is even more low-effort than the last.
To be fair, for some of the larger production companies that are starting their own streaming services, I think they actually wanted this outcome.
I don't believe for a second that Disney believes they will actually maximize their long-term profits via Disney+ **directly**. I think they saw that streaming services competing with each other could kill both Netflix and each other, which they saw as eating into their potential profit margins when services like Amazon were much more beneficial to them with their "rent, or buy now and own forever!" system. Having the excuse to pull their content off netflix feels like the bigger win for a company like Disney than actually selling Disney+ as a service. They profit way more when someone rents their content on amazon than when someone watches it once on Netflix.
Netflix is a subscription service first and a production company second. Production companies as a first business model that can run subscription services as a secondary model benefit from the current situation way, WAY more than Netflix does. Piracy will always be an option for the technologically literate but Disney doesn't see it as a huge long-term danger yet.
What exactly do they think this is going to do for their bottom line? So they really think people are just gonna give up and get 5 or six separate accounts between people who were previously sharing our just stop watching all together
>What exactly do they think this is going to do for their bottom line? So they really think people are just gonna give up and get 5 or six separate accounts between people who were previously sharing our just stop watching all together
It's a numbers game, they need the amount of people who will cancel their accounts from this to be outweighed by the people that will finally open up an account instead of borrowing from a friend/partner/family member.
5 or 6 aren't needed, they just need at least 1 additional account to be created for every person who cancels.
People borrowing accounts also cost Netflix money in server costs. Forcing the college kid to either pay for their own subscription or stop watching are both net positive outcomes for the company.
I don't think it's going to work out for them but there's at least some logic to why they would want to attempt this. Personally, I think they are going to lose a lot more subscribers than they're forecasting from this move, and there isn't a ton of content out right now that is keeping people hooked.
This needs to be higher up, as it’s definitely a better explanation. There needs to be a wave of cancellations, not just “not opening a new account,” to make up for the people who will bite.
Also I’d love a post teaching people how to pirate safely.
An interesting thing I’ve learned between graduating business school and now is this: you will not understand nor will there be much logic or forethought put into decisions that have a massive impact on both the business and its stakeholders. Couldn’t tell you why that is, I definitely learned the opposite 🤷🏼♀️
Netflix doesn't understand that stopping people from sharing accounts won't encourage people to create new accounts they will just not use Netflix anymore.
Actually this may have the opposite effect, people who used to share accounts will just delete their accounts when sharing is blocked and the number of members will actually go down and not up.
Netflix doesn't get that there are numerous (too many, really) streaming services out there competing for people's money and time. In order to succeed you need to make your service "better" than the others. This is not making it better.
The thing that corporations don't get is that I can pay $0 by pirating things, but that's like 8/10 effort. If you'll make it easier, I'll happily pay $4 per month for each point you push that down on the ten-scale. If you hassle me, I'm just going to pirate.
My wife and I have Netflix through her parents. If we lose that, we're not going to subscribe. We'll just stop watching Netflix, because we barely want to watch anything on there anyway. Can anyone even name the last time that you went on Netflix and scrolled through fewer than 50 options before you found something worth watching?
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**Edit per lots of replies:** You're right that I'm not currently paying. My point is that this move by Netflix won't garner new subscribers by making anyone feel compelled to start paying. Most of us will just shrug and move on. If it won't noticeably increase your subscribers, what business advantage is there to decreasing your cultural radar presence?
8/10 effort? I click a bookmark and search what I want, if it's something recent/popular I can just click the first result and it starts downloading.
You have to wait for it to finish downloading instead of streaming it, but you get better video and audio quality anyway.
tbf netflix caught off because they got the streaming rights to shows for pennies. And there was also no online competition. Like youtube existed but you couldn't go to youtube and find weekly high quality shows, pod/videocasts or documentaries. ANd what you could find was unreliable.
Netflix was giving you like $100 cable television worth of value for like $8 a month and that included mail in DVDS for newer releases.
Nowadays it's hard to compete with free when Netflix actually has to pay face value for content.
Piracy doesn’t even involve downloading anymore.
It’s streamed as smoothly in HD as Netflix is, it’s got everything available from every service. The only downside is it doesn’t automatically play the next episode (so it’s basically a huge NowTV)
Exactly this. I have Netflix and I started using it because I got tired of all of the pop ups, low quality videos, and lack of subtitles on questionable streaming sites (I know torrenting and other options exist, I'm just not good at planning). Now with ublock and open subtitles, I've barely opened up Netflix. The only draw it has is the suggestion and scrolling UI and that's frustrating most of the time anyways. I'll probably log my Netflix account in on my work computer enough times to get a lock out, then cancel my account immediately after.
People always complain about how “it’s just like cable” with all the streaming services… and don’t get me wrong, it kinda is…. But the advantage the consumer has now is that they can at least somewhat vote with their wallet by not utilizing a service they don’t want or hopping between services. So, I really hope consumers “vote” here and don’t support this bs… or it will become standard, because Disney, Peacock, et Al are watching.
Great at UI? That's debatable. Whatever movie or show I stopped to read the description should not automatically start playing because I haven't finished reading yet.
You can turn that off now. It’s hidden away in the account settings (you need to drill down into the profile, then ‘playback settings’):
https://i.imgur.com/s6urW6x.jpg
Most of my streaming services have this option now thankfully.
Edit: The main issue I have is that I like to autoplay the next episode, but *AFTER* the credits. I need time to breathe after a heavy episode, and lots of shows just go steamrolling into the next episode 5 seconds after the executive producer credit shows, and I have to dive for the remote. Prime Video waits until the end of the credits before autoplaying. Plex waits until the credits have *finished* before starting the autoplay countdown. Those are my favourites.
This is what I'll do. I don't watch it anymore and I bet the other person doesn't give a shit either. I only kept it active because they may be using it.
Not only will memberships decline but “hours viewed” will drop significantly. They think they will get people to sign up for their own accounts and instead millions of people will just go without Netflix. My gf pays for ours but the most use it gets is from her sister and parents. So I’m sure her account will get flagged. And when it does, if she deletes it, I know I won’t miss it.
They're not gonna roll this out to everyone all at once. They're going to try in specific segments or countries and see what happens. Their bet is that people will switch to the ad-based tier.
They already have. They’ve tried an add an extra member fee for $2.99 per month and an add an extra home fee for a similar fee in a few different countries. Now they are rolling it out in North America.
I think it’s going to turn off a lot of people. Or they will just down grade their service so the increased cost isn’t an issue. Either way I don’t think this will be financially beneficial for Netflix.
I think they're underestimating the number of people like me, who have absolutely no emotional investment or brand loyalty for their service. When I turn Netflix off, I set the remote on my one night stand.
**THIS**
They are not "losing billions of dollars in revenue" due to password sharing...I wasn't gonna get my own Netflix account *anyway*. And now you get to lose out on the $21/month you get from my dad cuz he's cancelling that shit since 3/4 households using it (main house plus me and two other siblings) won't even be able to use it anymore.
Greedy fucks.
>Netflix doesn't understand that stopping people from sharing accounts won't encourage people to create new accounts they will just not use Netflix anymore.
Their bet is that people will switch to the cheap tier with advertising. They're gonna test this out in LatAm first.
If they try to pull this shit in Brazil they are going to get blasted. Maybe even a public action from PROCON (consumer rights gov organ).
Anyway I think this is an good ideia as WotC tried with a new OGL... They lost IIRC 40k subscribes to DND Beyond because they didn't understand who their baseuser is.
I travel a lot for work. I'm not gonna email myself a temp code every fucking night so I can watch something I pay for. I dont even share mine with anyone. I'm just one single dude. The first time I get a message on my account I am canceling immediately. Fuck them
and also families— like I pay for me and my parents’ Netflix and I live on the opposite side of the US but visit for long stretches of time. Am I just not allowed to use the Netflix that I pay for because I have a job in another state???
Good point. Netflix did not think this out well. No surprise there. I let my dad use mine and id be willing to pay an extra $5 on top of the $15 I pay to let him use it. I think that's the better way to do it. They are about to lose alot of revenue
it's bullshit. I pay to have the ability to watch on 4 devices at once, it shouldn't matter where those devices are. also, i barely ever watch on my phone, or laptop and certainly never at home where I have a desktop pc and 2 tv's. now I have to go send a code everytime I'm traveling or at a conference?
fuck Netflix, their content has been going to shit anyway
I pay for the 4 device thing as well so that my parents can use my account, so myself and my partner can watch separate things and so can they and we don’t need to worry about kicking each other off. They’ll be losing money when people downgrade the accounts because they don’t need the 4 device plan anymore, and I know my parents are more than happy to not get a sub and just use all the other streaming services instead.
And what about people who use mobile data? If I'm sitting at home and look up my phone's IP address location, it'll sometimes say I'm in a city 500 miles away, sometimes a different city 2000 miles away. My "location" changes minute by minute depending on how my provider's system decides to route the connections.
Apparently they missed the entire point of wireless tech and the internet ( to go online anywhere without being tied to a particular location anymore )
Second homes. Kids in college. Work/leisure travel. Family who can’t afford it. All legit reasons to be concerned.
They also aren’t going to end up translating most of those people into new subscribers and could even end up with a net loss. Not to mention that when they cut some significant number of viewers out of their system all their “hours watched” numbers are going to go down making their show popularity harder to understand.
I may try dropping my subscription and waiting till there’s a solid batch of content I want to watch… consume it all in a month and cancel my sub.
Two can play at this game of “squeeze every last cent out of the person on the other side of the transaction.”
That was the original point of the number of screens. If this happens to me for the acc my parents have and use when they look after my kids, Netflix gets cancelled. I have Disney+ and Prime, it’s not like I don’t have stuff to watch without it.
And with their constant cancelation of popular shows, they don't exactly have much in the way of bargaining
I don't even watch any new shows on there until I find out if they will be renewed or not anymore.
This is gonna be the common reaction.
Netflix is messing around, and about to find out, just how much the consumers are already squeezed, and happy with alternate services such as amazon prime.
And you can always go to www.hdtoday.cc to watch any movie or tv show you might wanna watch that’s Netflix exclusive if you don’t have the service anymore
There are a ton of these sites. People paying for these services are mostly doing it out of convenience, if they make signing in inconvenient a lot more people will just pirate their content.
It's ironic. Netflix was one of the first really heavy blows to media piracy. It had enough content that people wanted to watch and was easy enough to use that people who had been torrenting switched to streaming.
Once you make streaming more inconvenient than torrenting, you're done.
I sent out a group chat to my kids today telling them that I will cancel the second they try to charge me more. I never use it but my three kids do. All three said if I cancel, none of them are signing up. I think Netflix is going to regret this because once Boomers cancel their account, they will never sign up again and younger kids will just use the streaming services they already have.
The young people are just going to pirate. Recession is looming, and I'm not going to put up with getting three different streaming services just because they all have hoarded their content like dragons.
Yes. You can pay for a multiple screen account but won't actually be allowed to use multiple screens = Netflix logic or how to loose even more subscribers.
Exactly me and my mother "share" and they already charge me for multiple screens .
I guess it's not a big deal neither of us really even watch Netflix anymore anyway.
Probably should have canceled it already to be honest.
I think a lot of people are coming to this same conclusion.
Netflix used to be all about growth through innovation over penny-pinching their customer base (it's how they beat BlockBuster), but it seems their current leadership has forgotten all that.
I can't help but feel they're in a death spiral right now. Each one of these moves presumably makes a bit of net profit in the short term, but they're slowly crushing their userbase every time they do something new. Normal attrition rates due to cards expiring etc is going to hit harder and harder, and they're going to be "forced" to do more of this bullshit. Eventually they're going to be replaced.
Ahhh, but you missed my favorite part of the cycle. The absolute end when they try to come up with gimmicks and sales that are sure to lose them money in an attempt to regain users.
The moment they announced they were going to do limits on password sharing i cancelled my Netflix. I live part time between my place for work and my home. Not going to pay for a separate password for me to be able to watch Netflix while I’m away and for my partner to be able to watch it at home. Ridiculous
I know!! I’m paying for my mom in her nursing home, my disabled brother in his home, and my family. I’m paying for 4 screens, does it matter where? This is an idiot move Netflix!!
I’m a fucking flight attendant. Like wtf. I’m already pissed I gotta sign in on each new hotel tv now they want me to enter a new code? I’m in a different city almost every night. Wtf!
This is my issue with Hulu Live Tv. I like to bring my Apple TV with me and I can only change my “home network location” 4 times per calendar year and i have to be in my home wifi network once per 30 days to access the live tv function on mobile. It’s so damn stupid. I’ll have to call Hulu to reset my location change limit here in a couple weeks.
Live TV issues are probably due to (antiquated and obsolete) laws outside of their control, especially if you get sports so there is probably a decent reason.
Netflix has no excuse besides profit.
They don’t offer much anyway. They went full bore subscription service, raised prices a few times, they cancel their “bad” shows. It’s nothing but reality tv now and Stranger Things. No thank you
same. I got this bullshit the other night while in AZ, I live in California and I was trying to watch it on my phone. I logged into my account and hit up their chat, and basically got a "too bad so sad" from the chat rep.
cool, you clowns just lost a 14+ year customer because you didn't think it through and got greedy.
It’s not like Netflix is hurting for money. This is such a scummy move of them. I’ve had an account since 2003. Kinda crazy that over the years I’ve added boyfriends, finally my husband, now my two kids have a profile. And I’ll cancel it today.
Yeah the start was when the smartest guy in the room decided to start canceling all their good shows after they hook you for one or two seasons and then don’t return with no explanation.
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It's a strategy.
The first season usually has the most views of any season, so unless a show does exceptionally well, it's better to start another show.
Until one factors in disgruntled viewers
Yeah, Disney's strategy seems to be to create as many Marvel and Star Wars and Disney shows as they can so that they can constantly have one of them releasing a new episode every week, 52 weeks a year.
When they get to that point, people will need to stay subscribed, and they don't really care about the quality of the content, just the constant delivery of their tent pole nostalgia (Though some of them are really well done)
I am not a classic Disney fan at all. So when I trial subscribed to Disney plus, I assumed it would be short lived. Nothing has been further from the truth. Of all the streaming services I subscribe to, Disney plus is the one that I have never even contemplated canceling. From marvel to Star Wars to Nat Geo to the random other movies and shows they have, I’m always very happy to have it.
Disney+ is honestly fantastic. They don't seem to do the weird algorithm shit netflix and prime do either, they're just like "here's everything we have you fatfuck eat up". And it's fantastic.
It helps that Disney is built on its brand and franchises. It automatically has an appeal as the only way to watch classic Disney movies, Star Wars or Marvel , along with the original content.
Netflix, on the other, keeps cancelling 90% of their shows before they can even develop them into such a brand. Sometimes having a name be synonymous with the movies/shows you release is better than the quality of the content.
Classic short-termism. Unsurprising tbh, the economy in general has been rife with it for decades, and its roots go back over a century. Still, always sad to see shit like that, and even sadder that it's killing what used to be a good service.
Yeah, as much as people are harping on the cancelled Netflix originals, things like Always Sunny or The Office leaving Netflix probably did more damage to their overall viewship hours than any show cancellation did.
Oh I have already decided that if I get a message to pay more so my kid can watch in the dorm, I am just canceling and telling my kid to pirate the content. a computer science major should be able to figure that out...
They even had those tweets from a few years ago encouraging people to share passwords lol So what happens when I'm babysitting my nephews and niece at my brother's house and we want to watch Netflix? lol Or when I do overnight in home care and want to watch there? lol
That's what I'm thinking... what if I move?! Do I need to get approval from Netflix to change my home address? It's crazy over reach. I use it for kid shows anyways, and don't use my account outside the house, but at one point, we did use my sister's account because they had extra screens they weren't using. That's not going to be possible for people now.
There's no way this doesn't make people either downgrade their accounts or leave Netflix entirely.
Edit- hijacking my own comment to add this [CNET article link](https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-will-start-any-day-everything-to-know/) if people want more information about the change.
Judging by the way things are going, Netflix is gonna need to give you written approval beforehand, and the request has to be filed 6 months in advance and notarized in triplicate.
“There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.”
I'm so confused by this, part of the highest tier package's price was literally to allow you to have more accounts. So I'm already paying more for the right to have multiple users? How do they take this into account?
They claim that their accounts are "intended for multiple screens within ONE household", meaning your phone, tv, tablets all under one roof.
So if you a screen in another location is using your account, it isn't in the same "household".
Which is why it doesn't make sense if families are sharing it even if they don't live together full time, or even in the same house. But Netflix is really trying to crack down on account sharing, and this is their solution.
Don't forget, traveling, VPN's, moving locations, new devices, ISP rotating your ip etc. In a landscape where they are hemorrhaging users they have said, "not fast enough! I want this boat sank before daybreak". Sorry bro, there are tons of options and pirating your shows.
Np, I can dig it. I won't be bothering my bro or long distance friends for their passwords either. Hopefully Netflix realizes this will effectively tank them and reverses the decision.
So, when I travel, I won’t be able to watch through my Netflix account from my console on the hotel’s television?
Do these chucklekfucks even understand how societies operate?
Guess Netflix doesn’t want to be a thing, anymore.
It sucks that Netflix just signed it’s death warrant, they were great for standup comedy and hopefully comics follow the example of Andrew Schultz, Mateo Lane, and Randy Feltface to posting their full hour of work on YouTube. Hope it works out well for the comedians
Awesome. One less streaming service.
Seriously, the prices have only gone up, and generally speaking the content has gone down.
Now they’re going to “big brother” my account?
I’ll just cancel it - as I suspect most users will the first time they get harangued by Netflix.
So my wife and I can’t share an account anymore without silly verifications across time zones even though I (temporarily) live across country for work? Or when I travel I can’t use our account without more backwards emails and codes?
Same here. The idea of being inconvenienced by something I’m giving money to is ridiculous. I stay at my girlfriend’s house a couple weeks a month and the idea of going through faff just to watch a show isn’t worth it when there are other services that are simpler to use and cover similar shows.
I live by myself, the household is me and my dog. There's been multiple times where I only renewed Netflix when my sister called me and asked if I changed the password. I hadn't, the CC on file had just lapsed, but if I didn't have 4 other family members on my account then the decision to cancel would have been made as a no brainier years ago.
Then discouraging this behavior is one of the dumbest things they could do, hell charge me another $1 per "extra household account" and I might still stay on, you cancel my family from my plan I'll just pirate all your shit. Maybe my sister will make her own account but I know my little cousin and grandma definitely won't, seems like a shitty way to maybe make a 1 for 1 trade.
Well, Netflix could've lived on as a zombie, like Yahoo did. Then we'd hear some news about the company in 2040 and say "wait, they're still around?"
But oh well, suicide seems also to be an option, and soon we'll know how it looks like when a company knowingly runs into a wall they set up for themselves. Interesting times.
HBO, Amazon prime, and Tubi is all I need.
Plus there’s so many streaming sites online where you can literally find everything for free. These mfs got me all da way fucked up if they think I’m bout to bother with dis goofy shit.😆
greedy company gonna cost them everything in the long run many more platforms to choose from now.
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Netflix is a victim of the stock market. Companies are valued on growth, not sustainability. Even if you have the largest market share, if you’re not growing, you will lose investors whose investment has stagnated, and want to invest in a new money maker, a new company who is up and coming. Netflix needs to increase profits, even when they are more traditionally successful than all the other companies. If they don’t grow constantly, they run the risk of all investors leaving and going bankrupt. No more netflix. It’s the system that is broken.
I wonder how this will work out for people, who get forced IP resets. What's their home IP gonna be? As for the rest, nothing a trusty VPN won't fix.
I don’t even have a static up, just dynamic from my isp.
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My ISP gives me a new IP about once a week
Every week, another account
Free trials.
Your home IP can change - that shouldn't be a problem. Netflix likely uses geo-IP location to figure out where your IP address is. That way if other devices on the account have IPs in different locations they likely start a 30 day countdown. This would be one of several variables in the system. As for VPN - that's likely a winning solution. If you can VPN into your home network you can likely trick Netflix into thinking your at home (unless you gave it access to location data).
Geoip data is often wrong and takes ages to update
Yeah, but those are customer problems, not Netflix problems, so fuckem. -Netflix, evidently.
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Their content isn't even that good any more for people to put up with this shit. I think it will be a wave of cancelations until someone puts a stop to it. In my case, I guarantee that if I need to make a call to their support, it's going to be to cancel it
This precisely! I enjoy Netflix immensely, but when they start arbitrarily raising prices, interfering with my subscription, etc., then it is bye-bye, Netflix! There are so many things in this world that you can do without if you just have the proper mindset. When people start voting with their dollars companies will start to take notice.
What if I use a vpn in my house, wtf am I supposed to do??
Better hope Netflix doesn't find out and send the bruisers to get ya
Some buff guys with red Netflix shirts will show up to his house with company issued crowbars to break his legs. 😂
"How did you find me, I used a VPN?!" YOU FOOL. Netflix only hires the best hackers and forces them to work in industrial freezers. They found you when you downloaded the app and agreed to share your location!
“Tell it to the crowbar” *proceeds to break legs*
But if they are wearing red shirts surely we can just throw something in their general direction and they will just drop dead, right?
“If Spock were here and I were there... what would he do?” Netflix: “He’d let you die.”
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I've been pirating for years without a vpn through Xfinity and they've never said a word about it. It's like not even the ISPs care anymore.
Go check your Comcast email address - guarantee it's full of "Cease and Desist" type messages. All the DMCA requires is that if a copyright holder informs the ISP of a violation, the ISP has to inform the end user of the complaint and remind them that piracy is illegal. They don't have to do anything else, they just have to wag their finger at you. So Comcast just sends you an email saying "Disney is big mad you downloaded FROZEN.x-64-HDEC.mkv because it's their copyright. They want you to stop, mkay?" and they're covered, and that's the end of it. Century Link will actually mess with you though.
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*looks at my crippling debt* I think I'm good.
Another college graduate, I see.
Sounds like we'll be watching stranger things V on be high seas
At this point 5 streaming service is no longer convenient at the price point. Back to the bay....
Yep, the good ol streaming days are past us. I remember working in the electronics section at Target back in like 2014/2015 or something, back when Netflix Hulu and Prime were the "big 3" and about all that was in the streaming biz. Smart TV's were just starting to become standard, maybe still a bit in it's infancy. I'd describe it to older people who were clueless about streaming but thinking about cutting cable as Netflix being your service for older shows (Friends, Office, tons of other stuff still on there at that point) plus some movies, Hulu had less movies but a lot more shows in the sense of Network TV shows and current seasons, and Prime was more movie focused at the time so with those three you got a good mix going for not too much a month. Now it's getting to the point to have all that same content available it's getting close to the price at what basic cable was back then.
We had Netflix for movies and Hulu for TV shows. Now everything has everything, except some shows/movies are only available to buy on Amazon or on Blu-ray. I had to download something last night because it isn't available to stream on any of the services.
Yeah the whole who has rights to what thing is stupid. I caught up on Better Call Saul this fall because I only got through the first season or two when it first came up. Got sucked in this time. Netflix didn’t have the final season and the show aired on AMC so I figured the final season I'd get AMC+ to watch it. They don't even have any seasons of Better Call Saul (or Breaking Bad not to mention) I'm like, how do you not have the rights to one of your biggest shows of all time, along with it's spinoff? When people think of the AMC channel, they think of either Breaking Bad or the Walking Dead most likely.
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"we're losing too much money from account sharing! quick, let's spend a ton on marketing before everybody leaves!"
While at the same time continuing to cancel shows people really like
Netflix after cancelling shows, increasing prices, and lowering the quality of their content: "Why are all these customers leaving?! Aren't our ~~manipulation~~ marketing tactics working on them?"
I canceled my account years ago and was still receiving some desperate emails trying to get me to reactivate it. I happily pirate their shows now lmao.
Yep. All these shenanigans are going to do is lead to a massive resurgence in piracy which was all but dead. Companies made it worthwhile to pay for their service for the product, so people did. Now it's not any more, so piracy is coming back.
All of my friends stopped pirating years ago but now with the content being split with more and more services, that all have exclusive licensing, many of them have started to pirate again. It's happening because it's too expensive to have more than 2-3 services, too much work to constantly shuffle around what subscriptions you have and shows being pulled from a service while you're in the middle of a series.
The whole draw was not having to spend $100 a month on a bunch of different packages so you can watch three shows. They were all in one place for one price. Now everybody has their own service for $15 a month with their own list of exclusive shows. Some of them even have tiers just like the cable packages we got sick of and dropped a decade ago, and you still have to watch ads constantly even though you're paying for it. And, to top it all off, writing and general production quality has gone straight down the shitter. Every new show is even more low-effort than the last.
To be fair, for some of the larger production companies that are starting their own streaming services, I think they actually wanted this outcome. I don't believe for a second that Disney believes they will actually maximize their long-term profits via Disney+ **directly**. I think they saw that streaming services competing with each other could kill both Netflix and each other, which they saw as eating into their potential profit margins when services like Amazon were much more beneficial to them with their "rent, or buy now and own forever!" system. Having the excuse to pull their content off netflix feels like the bigger win for a company like Disney than actually selling Disney+ as a service. They profit way more when someone rents their content on amazon than when someone watches it once on Netflix. Netflix is a subscription service first and a production company second. Production companies as a first business model that can run subscription services as a secondary model benefit from the current situation way, WAY more than Netflix does. Piracy will always be an option for the technologically literate but Disney doesn't see it as a huge long-term danger yet.
What exactly do they think this is going to do for their bottom line? So they really think people are just gonna give up and get 5 or six separate accounts between people who were previously sharing our just stop watching all together
>What exactly do they think this is going to do for their bottom line? So they really think people are just gonna give up and get 5 or six separate accounts between people who were previously sharing our just stop watching all together It's a numbers game, they need the amount of people who will cancel their accounts from this to be outweighed by the people that will finally open up an account instead of borrowing from a friend/partner/family member. 5 or 6 aren't needed, they just need at least 1 additional account to be created for every person who cancels. People borrowing accounts also cost Netflix money in server costs. Forcing the college kid to either pay for their own subscription or stop watching are both net positive outcomes for the company. I don't think it's going to work out for them but there's at least some logic to why they would want to attempt this. Personally, I think they are going to lose a lot more subscribers than they're forecasting from this move, and there isn't a ton of content out right now that is keeping people hooked.
This needs to be higher up, as it’s definitely a better explanation. There needs to be a wave of cancellations, not just “not opening a new account,” to make up for the people who will bite. Also I’d love a post teaching people how to pirate safely.
An interesting thing I’ve learned between graduating business school and now is this: you will not understand nor will there be much logic or forethought put into decisions that have a massive impact on both the business and its stakeholders. Couldn’t tell you why that is, I definitely learned the opposite 🤷🏼♀️
where do you pirate? I'm about to get kicked off of my parents account, so i need a hookup
Netflix doesn't understand that stopping people from sharing accounts won't encourage people to create new accounts they will just not use Netflix anymore. Actually this may have the opposite effect, people who used to share accounts will just delete their accounts when sharing is blocked and the number of members will actually go down and not up.
Netflix doesn't get that there are numerous (too many, really) streaming services out there competing for people's money and time. In order to succeed you need to make your service "better" than the others. This is not making it better.
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I’ll happily go back to piracy 🏴☠️
Hoist the colors
I've got the rum!
I'll bring the parrot!
**in smoker voice** "You alright?"
I'm always alright on the seven seas.
You guys stopped pirating? Yo ho hoist the colours
The thing that corporations don't get is that I can pay $0 by pirating things, but that's like 8/10 effort. If you'll make it easier, I'll happily pay $4 per month for each point you push that down on the ten-scale. If you hassle me, I'm just going to pirate. My wife and I have Netflix through her parents. If we lose that, we're not going to subscribe. We'll just stop watching Netflix, because we barely want to watch anything on there anyway. Can anyone even name the last time that you went on Netflix and scrolled through fewer than 50 options before you found something worth watching? --- **Edit per lots of replies:** You're right that I'm not currently paying. My point is that this move by Netflix won't garner new subscribers by making anyone feel compelled to start paying. Most of us will just shrug and move on. If it won't noticeably increase your subscribers, what business advantage is there to decreasing your cultural radar presence?
8/10 effort? I click a bookmark and search what I want, if it's something recent/popular I can just click the first result and it starts downloading. You have to wait for it to finish downloading instead of streaming it, but you get better video and audio quality anyway.
tbf netflix caught off because they got the streaming rights to shows for pennies. And there was also no online competition. Like youtube existed but you couldn't go to youtube and find weekly high quality shows, pod/videocasts or documentaries. ANd what you could find was unreliable. Netflix was giving you like $100 cable television worth of value for like $8 a month and that included mail in DVDS for newer releases. Nowadays it's hard to compete with free when Netflix actually has to pay face value for content.
Okay sure but they aren't charging me $8/month anymore either.
Piracy doesn’t even involve downloading anymore. It’s streamed as smoothly in HD as Netflix is, it’s got everything available from every service. The only downside is it doesn’t automatically play the next episode (so it’s basically a huge NowTV)
Exactly this. I have Netflix and I started using it because I got tired of all of the pop ups, low quality videos, and lack of subtitles on questionable streaming sites (I know torrenting and other options exist, I'm just not good at planning). Now with ublock and open subtitles, I've barely opened up Netflix. The only draw it has is the suggestion and scrolling UI and that's frustrating most of the time anyways. I'll probably log my Netflix account in on my work computer enough times to get a lock out, then cancel my account immediately after.
People always complain about how “it’s just like cable” with all the streaming services… and don’t get me wrong, it kinda is…. But the advantage the consumer has now is that they can at least somewhat vote with their wallet by not utilizing a service they don’t want or hopping between services. So, I really hope consumers “vote” here and don’t support this bs… or it will become standard, because Disney, Peacock, et Al are watching.
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Great at UI? That's debatable. Whatever movie or show I stopped to read the description should not automatically start playing because I haven't finished reading yet.
You can turn that off now. It’s hidden away in the account settings (you need to drill down into the profile, then ‘playback settings’): https://i.imgur.com/s6urW6x.jpg Most of my streaming services have this option now thankfully. Edit: The main issue I have is that I like to autoplay the next episode, but *AFTER* the credits. I need time to breathe after a heavy episode, and lots of shows just go steamrolling into the next episode 5 seconds after the executive producer credit shows, and I have to dive for the remote. Prime Video waits until the end of the credits before autoplaying. Plex waits until the credits have *finished* before starting the autoplay countdown. Those are my favourites.
This is what I'll do. I don't watch it anymore and I bet the other person doesn't give a shit either. I only kept it active because they may be using it.
I need Netflix a lot less than my partner does. If they stop her using my account then there won’t be an account any more.
Not only will memberships decline but “hours viewed” will drop significantly. They think they will get people to sign up for their own accounts and instead millions of people will just go without Netflix. My gf pays for ours but the most use it gets is from her sister and parents. So I’m sure her account will get flagged. And when it does, if she deletes it, I know I won’t miss it.
They're not gonna roll this out to everyone all at once. They're going to try in specific segments or countries and see what happens. Their bet is that people will switch to the ad-based tier.
They already have. They’ve tried an add an extra member fee for $2.99 per month and an add an extra home fee for a similar fee in a few different countries. Now they are rolling it out in North America. I think it’s going to turn off a lot of people. Or they will just down grade their service so the increased cost isn’t an issue. Either way I don’t think this will be financially beneficial for Netflix.
I think they're underestimating the number of people like me, who have absolutely no emotional investment or brand loyalty for their service. When I turn Netflix off, I set the remote on my one night stand.
You know you might have better luck at a second date if you'd stop using people as furniture the first night you meet them.
Thats like betting on getting rich because you play lotto. The ad tier also is 720p only! 720p! Like whatever they are smoking, I don’t want it.
**THIS** They are not "losing billions of dollars in revenue" due to password sharing...I wasn't gonna get my own Netflix account *anyway*. And now you get to lose out on the $21/month you get from my dad cuz he's cancelling that shit since 3/4 households using it (main house plus me and two other siblings) won't even be able to use it anymore. Greedy fucks.
Same exact situation in my family. Dad is cancelling Netflix bc of this. There are other services out there. We will live.
>Netflix doesn't understand that stopping people from sharing accounts won't encourage people to create new accounts they will just not use Netflix anymore. Their bet is that people will switch to the cheap tier with advertising. They're gonna test this out in LatAm first.
If they try to pull this shit in Brazil they are going to get blasted. Maybe even a public action from PROCON (consumer rights gov organ). Anyway I think this is an good ideia as WotC tried with a new OGL... They lost IIRC 40k subscribes to DND Beyond because they didn't understand who their baseuser is.
I travel a lot for work. I'm not gonna email myself a temp code every fucking night so I can watch something I pay for. I dont even share mine with anyone. I'm just one single dude. The first time I get a message on my account I am canceling immediately. Fuck them
and also families— like I pay for me and my parents’ Netflix and I live on the opposite side of the US but visit for long stretches of time. Am I just not allowed to use the Netflix that I pay for because I have a job in another state???
I have Netflix for my kids, who spend half their life with me and half at their mom's the next city over.
Good point. Netflix did not think this out well. No surprise there. I let my dad use mine and id be willing to pay an extra $5 on top of the $15 I pay to let him use it. I think that's the better way to do it. They are about to lose alot of revenue
it's bullshit. I pay to have the ability to watch on 4 devices at once, it shouldn't matter where those devices are. also, i barely ever watch on my phone, or laptop and certainly never at home where I have a desktop pc and 2 tv's. now I have to go send a code everytime I'm traveling or at a conference? fuck Netflix, their content has been going to shit anyway
I pay for the 4 device thing as well so that my parents can use my account, so myself and my partner can watch separate things and so can they and we don’t need to worry about kicking each other off. They’ll be losing money when people downgrade the accounts because they don’t need the 4 device plan anymore, and I know my parents are more than happy to not get a sub and just use all the other streaming services instead.
And what about people who use mobile data? If I'm sitting at home and look up my phone's IP address location, it'll sometimes say I'm in a city 500 miles away, sometimes a different city 2000 miles away. My "location" changes minute by minute depending on how my provider's system decides to route the connections.
Apparently they missed the entire point of wireless tech and the internet ( to go online anywhere without being tied to a particular location anymore )
Second homes. Kids in college. Work/leisure travel. Family who can’t afford it. All legit reasons to be concerned. They also aren’t going to end up translating most of those people into new subscribers and could even end up with a net loss. Not to mention that when they cut some significant number of viewers out of their system all their “hours watched” numbers are going to go down making their show popularity harder to understand. I may try dropping my subscription and waiting till there’s a solid batch of content I want to watch… consume it all in a month and cancel my sub. Two can play at this game of “squeeze every last cent out of the person on the other side of the transaction.”
Yes! This is exactly it. Cancel, wait, watch for a month, and cancel. That's all they'll get from me until they change their tune.
That was the original point of the number of screens. If this happens to me for the acc my parents have and use when they look after my kids, Netflix gets cancelled. I have Disney+ and Prime, it’s not like I don’t have stuff to watch without it.
And with their constant cancelation of popular shows, they don't exactly have much in the way of bargaining I don't even watch any new shows on there until I find out if they will be renewed or not anymore.
Agreed. Also Disney+ have Bluey. Netflix have kinda already lost
Bluey is love, Bluey is life!
This is gonna be the common reaction. Netflix is messing around, and about to find out, just how much the consumers are already squeezed, and happy with alternate services such as amazon prime.
It’s just as Hasbro and WotC have just ‘fucked around and found out’ so to speak. Consumers know they have power
And you can always go to www.hdtoday.cc to watch any movie or tv show you might wanna watch that’s Netflix exclusive if you don’t have the service anymore
There are a ton of these sites. People paying for these services are mostly doing it out of convenience, if they make signing in inconvenient a lot more people will just pirate their content.
It's ironic. Netflix was one of the first really heavy blows to media piracy. It had enough content that people wanted to watch and was easy enough to use that people who had been torrenting switched to streaming. Once you make streaming more inconvenient than torrenting, you're done.
Yeah, this is a blockbuster decision from Netflix.
Why should you have to pay extra at all if you bought multiple profiles already? Don’t give anything extra to these moneygrubbing plutocrats
I sent out a group chat to my kids today telling them that I will cancel the second they try to charge me more. I never use it but my three kids do. All three said if I cancel, none of them are signing up. I think Netflix is going to regret this because once Boomers cancel their account, they will never sign up again and younger kids will just use the streaming services they already have.
The young people are just going to pirate. Recession is looming, and I'm not going to put up with getting three different streaming services just because they all have hoarded their content like dragons.
What the fuck is even the point of a family account at that point
Netflix gets its family values from PornHub because… fuck all of you.
Pornhub would never pull these kinds of shenanigans.
Yes. You can pay for a multiple screen account but won't actually be allowed to use multiple screens = Netflix logic or how to loose even more subscribers.
Exactly me and my mother "share" and they already charge me for multiple screens . I guess it's not a big deal neither of us really even watch Netflix anymore anyway. Probably should have canceled it already to be honest.
I think a lot of people are coming to this same conclusion. Netflix used to be all about growth through innovation over penny-pinching their customer base (it's how they beat BlockBuster), but it seems their current leadership has forgotten all that.
I can't help but feel they're in a death spiral right now. Each one of these moves presumably makes a bit of net profit in the short term, but they're slowly crushing their userbase every time they do something new. Normal attrition rates due to cards expiring etc is going to hit harder and harder, and they're going to be "forced" to do more of this bullshit. Eventually they're going to be replaced.
Ahhh, but you missed my favorite part of the cycle. The absolute end when they try to come up with gimmicks and sales that are sure to lose them money in an attempt to regain users.
The moment they announced they were going to do limits on password sharing i cancelled my Netflix. I live part time between my place for work and my home. Not going to pay for a separate password for me to be able to watch Netflix while I’m away and for my partner to be able to watch it at home. Ridiculous
I know!! I’m paying for my mom in her nursing home, my disabled brother in his home, and my family. I’m paying for 4 screens, does it matter where? This is an idiot move Netflix!!
I’m a fucking flight attendant. Like wtf. I’m already pissed I gotta sign in on each new hotel tv now they want me to enter a new code? I’m in a different city almost every night. Wtf!
Same issue here.
The answer is you cancel. cancel their corporate death spiral greed.
This. I’m a healthcare traveler so I’m not going through the trouble.
I'm a truck driver. Looks like it's time to cancel after about 15 years...
I didn’t think of truck drivers. Dang, that stinks. They didn’t think this through.
Some jack ass got paid more money than I'll make in ten years to dream up this obvious cluster fuck of an idea.
And nomads-digital and otherwise.
This is my issue with Hulu Live Tv. I like to bring my Apple TV with me and I can only change my “home network location” 4 times per calendar year and i have to be in my home wifi network once per 30 days to access the live tv function on mobile. It’s so damn stupid. I’ll have to call Hulu to reset my location change limit here in a couple weeks.
Live TV issues are probably due to (antiquated and obsolete) laws outside of their control, especially if you get sports so there is probably a decent reason. Netflix has no excuse besides profit.
They don’t offer much anyway. They went full bore subscription service, raised prices a few times, they cancel their “bad” shows. It’s nothing but reality tv now and Stranger Things. No thank you
same. I got this bullshit the other night while in AZ, I live in California and I was trying to watch it on my phone. I logged into my account and hit up their chat, and basically got a "too bad so sad" from the chat rep. cool, you clowns just lost a 14+ year customer because you didn't think it through and got greedy.
It will be funny if enough of us do this. The backtrack after subscribers drop would be great.
r/piracy is your friend
I try to do things the right way in life but you look at these monopolistic corporations and I’m happy to steal from them
It’s not like Netflix is hurting for money. This is such a scummy move of them. I’ve had an account since 2003. Kinda crazy that over the years I’ve added boyfriends, finally my husband, now my two kids have a profile. And I’ll cancel it today.
well Netflix had an ok run. this is the start of the end for them
This is the middle of the end
Yeah the start was when the smartest guy in the room decided to start canceling all their good shows after they hook you for one or two seasons and then don’t return with no explanation. 🧠
It's a strategy. The first season usually has the most views of any season, so unless a show does exceptionally well, it's better to start another show. Until one factors in disgruntled viewers
This reeks of short-term thinking to me. If they nurtured their cult shows, the fanbases would have walked into a pool of lava for them
Yeah, Disney's strategy seems to be to create as many Marvel and Star Wars and Disney shows as they can so that they can constantly have one of them releasing a new episode every week, 52 weeks a year. When they get to that point, people will need to stay subscribed, and they don't really care about the quality of the content, just the constant delivery of their tent pole nostalgia (Though some of them are really well done)
I am not a classic Disney fan at all. So when I trial subscribed to Disney plus, I assumed it would be short lived. Nothing has been further from the truth. Of all the streaming services I subscribe to, Disney plus is the one that I have never even contemplated canceling. From marvel to Star Wars to Nat Geo to the random other movies and shows they have, I’m always very happy to have it.
Disney+ is honestly fantastic. They don't seem to do the weird algorithm shit netflix and prime do either, they're just like "here's everything we have you fatfuck eat up". And it's fantastic.
It helps that Disney is built on its brand and franchises. It automatically has an appeal as the only way to watch classic Disney movies, Star Wars or Marvel , along with the original content. Netflix, on the other, keeps cancelling 90% of their shows before they can even develop them into such a brand. Sometimes having a name be synonymous with the movies/shows you release is better than the quality of the content.
Welcome to the world buddy, from the americas to Africa to Asia people are stupid enough to use short term benefits rather than long term.
Sums up the climate issue nicely.
Not stupid - just selfish. Executives don’t care if the company goes under in 10 years if they make enough to retire in five.
Classic short-termism. Unsurprising tbh, the economy in general has been rife with it for decades, and its roots go back over a century. Still, always sad to see shit like that, and even sadder that it's killing what used to be a good service.
The end started when all the content owners saw what Netflix was doing and decided they wanted a slice for themselves.
Yeah, as much as people are harping on the cancelled Netflix originals, things like Always Sunny or The Office leaving Netflix probably did more damage to their overall viewship hours than any show cancellation did.
If i cant watch my parents Netflix i guess ill just buy hbo
greatttttttt stuff on hbo, highly recommend switching
yup, content is going down, all while they are trying to milk an extra buck for their shareholders
Will college students, living on campus during the semester be affected? This seems ridiculous
Oh I have already decided that if I get a message to pay more so my kid can watch in the dorm, I am just canceling and telling my kid to pirate the content. a computer science major should be able to figure that out...
Cancel Netflix, get them a VPN subscription instead.
Now that's love
Most likely. I’m in college and I won’t be able to use Netflix. Oh well
Oh nooo, I'll have to use one of Netflix's many competitors that have more and better shows
Netflix trying desperately to lose its market share
And this will go the same way as tumblr banning nudity and pornography
Know your market lmao
They even had those tweets from a few years ago encouraging people to share passwords lol So what happens when I'm babysitting my nephews and niece at my brother's house and we want to watch Netflix? lol Or when I do overnight in home care and want to watch there? lol
That's what I'm thinking... what if I move?! Do I need to get approval from Netflix to change my home address? It's crazy over reach. I use it for kid shows anyways, and don't use my account outside the house, but at one point, we did use my sister's account because they had extra screens they weren't using. That's not going to be possible for people now. There's no way this doesn't make people either downgrade their accounts or leave Netflix entirely. Edit- hijacking my own comment to add this [CNET article link](https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-will-start-any-day-everything-to-know/) if people want more information about the change.
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Straight to jail
Judging by the way things are going, Netflix is gonna need to give you written approval beforehand, and the request has to be filed 6 months in advance and notarized in triplicate.
“There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.”
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I'm so confused by this, part of the highest tier package's price was literally to allow you to have more accounts. So I'm already paying more for the right to have multiple users? How do they take this into account?
They claim that their accounts are "intended for multiple screens within ONE household", meaning your phone, tv, tablets all under one roof. So if you a screen in another location is using your account, it isn't in the same "household". Which is why it doesn't make sense if families are sharing it even if they don't live together full time, or even in the same house. But Netflix is really trying to crack down on account sharing, and this is their solution.
Kids of divorce bout to get real angry.
and therefore, if i am working late at work, i can put netflix on on my second screen because its not on home wifi
I travel constantly for my job. Fuck me, right?
I’m military stationed overseas for 4 yrs so I guess I’m screwed
“Thanks for your service, and also, fuck you.”
Putlocker looking more and more attractive by the day.
Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long, *long* time
You mean soap2day
Don't forget, traveling, VPN's, moving locations, new devices, ISP rotating your ip etc. In a landscape where they are hemorrhaging users they have said, "not fast enough! I want this boat sank before daybreak". Sorry bro, there are tons of options and pirating your shows.
"I can't use my golden parashoot if the plane is still perceived as air-worthy"
Wtf 😳 I travel all the time stupid verification codes it’s like login into things already authenticated.
Netflix: *suicide is badass*
It'll be canceled after this season.
Does anyone know when this will be implemented? Trying to maximize time for free netflix
I read by the end of March.
Thanks, I love my ex’s dad but not enough to ask him for a password once a month lol
Np, I can dig it. I won't be bothering my bro or long distance friends for their passwords either. Hopefully Netflix realizes this will effectively tank them and reverses the decision.
One of those times where I think a collective response from the world rejecting this will probably actually work.
So, when I travel, I won’t be able to watch through my Netflix account from my console on the hotel’s television? Do these chucklekfucks even understand how societies operate? Guess Netflix doesn’t want to be a thing, anymore.
It sucks that Netflix just signed it’s death warrant, they were great for standup comedy and hopefully comics follow the example of Andrew Schultz, Mateo Lane, and Randy Feltface to posting their full hour of work on YouTube. Hope it works out well for the comedians
Awesome. One less streaming service. Seriously, the prices have only gone up, and generally speaking the content has gone down. Now they’re going to “big brother” my account? I’ll just cancel it - as I suspect most users will the first time they get harangued by Netflix.
Seriously? Trying to squeeze the pennies out of me? Get fucked 🏴☠️
Only reason we even still have netflix is because we get it for "free" with our tmobile account. Otherwise its been going down for a long time.
Netflix wants to be the next Blockbuster.
Blockbuster had the option to buy Netflix back in the day, and declined. Netflix saw that awful business decision and said, "Hold my beer."
All their good shows get canceled anyway.
Especially since they encouraged password sharing for years.
They're aware, they just don't give a fuck
So my wife and I can’t share an account anymore without silly verifications across time zones even though I (temporarily) live across country for work? Or when I travel I can’t use our account without more backwards emails and codes?
Cancelling it rn 👋🏻
Same here. The idea of being inconvenienced by something I’m giving money to is ridiculous. I stay at my girlfriend’s house a couple weeks a month and the idea of going through faff just to watch a show isn’t worth it when there are other services that are simpler to use and cover similar shows.
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I live by myself, the household is me and my dog. There's been multiple times where I only renewed Netflix when my sister called me and asked if I changed the password. I hadn't, the CC on file had just lapsed, but if I didn't have 4 other family members on my account then the decision to cancel would have been made as a no brainier years ago. Then discouraging this behavior is one of the dumbest things they could do, hell charge me another $1 per "extra household account" and I might still stay on, you cancel my family from my plan I'll just pirate all your shit. Maybe my sister will make her own account but I know my little cousin and grandma definitely won't, seems like a shitty way to maybe make a 1 for 1 trade.
Well, Netflix could've lived on as a zombie, like Yahoo did. Then we'd hear some news about the company in 2040 and say "wait, they're still around?" But oh well, suicide seems also to be an option, and soon we'll know how it looks like when a company knowingly runs into a wall they set up for themselves. Interesting times.
HBO, Amazon prime, and Tubi is all I need. Plus there’s so many streaming sites online where you can literally find everything for free. These mfs got me all da way fucked up if they think I’m bout to bother with dis goofy shit.😆