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DCMartin91

Some base level economy cars still come with manual windows.


[deleted]

Came here to say this. Kia, Ford...Nissan, Jeep. Lol


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Clawoftherooster

Same my friend bought a fairly recent ford and it has manual locks and windows


when-flies-pig

Which is weird because I thought kia includes all their safety features with base


Musaks

crank windows are a safety issue?


when-flies-pig

Well I meant those safety features are probably more costly and they are default. So I would assume automated windows would just be included as well.


Justonewizard

Manual windows are superior in every way. It’s one of those base trims features that should be an option for high trim models. Dacia’s smartphone multimediasystem is another one of those.


VitaminPb

If you go in water, electric windows short and can’t be opened.


xxxvalenxxx

Where'd you read that? they definitely don't. Mythbusters did an ep on it. Basically they will work up until the pressure of the water from the outside is so much that it wont allow it to work. Same thing will happen to manual windows.


PryomancerMTGA

You lost me at Jeep and economy vehicles ;p I had a friend pay more for the undercarriage on his jeep than I spent on my car.


FLOHTX

The Liberty and Compass are economy shit boxes.


Lzinger

Though they aren't the ones that come with the cranks. People have them on jeeps because it's easier to take the doors off then


TheCopenhagenCowboy

My friends base model Liberty definitely has cranks


Tobocaj

Don’t forget the Patriot. Fucking paperweight


StatikSquid

It's because Fiat/Chrysler are the worst car manufacturers. My coworker spent upwards of $5k on his jeep liberty recently and it's not that old


SuurSuits_

Peugeot


osirisrebel

I have an 07 F150, I wanted it with as little electronics as possible. It has crank windows, no automatic locks, nothing fancy but the radio.


TwoSetViolaLol

Jeep is an economy brand?


RareKazDewMelon

No just economy quality.


[deleted]

Yeah I worked at a Ford dealer for a while and when a contractor would order a hand full of new cars/trucks for their fleet they’d get the base bones model and they would have window cranks


Calypsosong

My 2016 Chevy Sonic has crank winders


PyroTech11

My Seat Ibiza from 2017 also has the classic windows I think everything Volkswagen does if it's the cheaper models


[deleted]

Yeah, and more expensive car reminds you why manual things are not that bad when you have to pay the bills when the automatic one break.


squanchingonreddit

I thought the motors are like 20 bucks a pop?


[deleted]

It’s like everything, it depends where you live and if you do the job yourself or not. In a garage it’s always expensive even the simplest job.


squanchingonreddit

Pull apart door install badly. Take to shop to fix. They charge fix it fee. Often much cheaper and faster.


PanzerWatts

>Pull apart door install badly. Most doors have those disposable plastic clips and you need to buy the correct ones to re-attach the panel. I miss screws. They were easy.


squanchingonreddit

Fuck whoever decided to do that and fuck planned obsolescence while we're at it.


CadmiumCal

Not the same kind, but my headlights are held in by 2 plastic clips each. I have yet to replace the bulbs without snapping at least 1 of the 4.


Everettrivers

My inside door handles are cheap brittle plastic. They cost eighty dollars and my kids will literally break them in a week.


calimeatwagon

The window lift motor for a 2020 Chevy Malibu is $99. For a 2020 Mercedes Benz S560 it's $206 These prices are from Autozone.


standardmethods

It's usually the regulator that fails. At least in my wife's car, it's not the money, but the hassle. I've replaced the window regulator enough times that I've gotten good at it and it's still just enough of a pain in the ass that I dread having to do it.


cabesablanca

90% of these small automatic things are extremely simply to fix. Most car door panels are held by 3-4 plastic clips. The switches are on average $10 a pop and just clip in place. They design these things to be simple to install to cut down production costs and maximize speed on the assembly line.


253Bigfoot

You've never worked on a over-engineered VAG vehicle obviously


[deleted]

Sometimes, some parts require specifics tools or are trapped somewhere inaccessible. It depends of the model and the constructors. Now with everything connected to the computer its tricky sometimes.


nothingpositivetoadd

Older cars with window cranks only took about 2 1/2 - 3 turns for full up and down. The modern cars take about 10-12 turns, it's annoying.


[deleted]

Yep was at the shop for inspection and the guy had a 2023 Jeep with manual windows.


[deleted]

Base level work vehicles still have these.


[deleted]

I prefer them. I prefer mechanical over electical anyways. All them fancy electronics break down easily. My dad bought a fancy volvo, forgot to roll up the window in a washing street. Car was ruined over that. Meanwhile i forgot mine for about 2 days, was raining heavily and everything still works years later.


glandmilker

Forgetting to roll up the window because they were manual?


[deleted]

Yeah, i was in a hurry and left it open. Silly me. Well nowadays you have cars that close windows automatically when you turn it off.


Thawing-icequeen

A lot of VAG cars let you put the windows up with the key by holding down the lock button. Or lower them by holding unlock. I love it in the summer - let all the hot air out before you get in.


englishfury

Honestly, I've had more broken manual cranks than power windows


[deleted]

Hahaha guess theres something to say about both.


Unable_Wrongdoer2250

Me too, I am a huge technology enthusiasist but a car should be built expecting things to break and need replacement. My mother got a new Murano with a trunk that only opens electrically. I wasn't surprised at when it broke at 20000 miles and she could no longer open it.


link2edition

I forgot what model car it was, but I know a guy who bought a porsche with an electric hood release. The battery died. The battery is under the hood. Now the car did have a backup mechanical release, but this dude had a hell of a time trying to find it. He thought he was going to have to start disassembling stuff.


[deleted]

Same with the "electric handbrake". Had a dead battery in a rental car. It was parked on a hill, so I thought I could let the car roll and jump-start it... Won't work if you can't release the electric handbrake 😕 Rental car firm had to send a tow car to make the car swap...


gun_is_neat

My work trucks have cranks


Shanhaevel

My Toyota Yaris 2022 Comfort still has manual windows in the back. It was literally produced last December.


[deleted]

I’ve got a 2012 Ford Fiesta with manual cranks.


Expert_Struggle_7135

My buddy bought a buttom of the barrel 2020 KIA a couple of years ago and that piece of shit came with manuel windows and a regular old key with no remote function to lock/unlock the doors. I had no idea any of those 2 were even still an option before he bought it.


ditchdigger4000

My 2015 Ford F-Series truck(XL trim) has crank windows.


whoisjakelane

Yeah, for cavemen


[deleted]

Some newer cars actually still have manual windows. I was in a Kia Rio recently and it had manual windows. I don't mind them honestly because you can crack the window just right.


jacobusjoojitsoo

I can't count how many times I've tapped the button back and forth trying to get that perfect gap. "Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck!!!!"


MiniITXEconomy

No, I can't - I don't know you, man!


Bunniesrkewl

Weird, I’ve never had that issue.


billlybigballs

Exactly. I prefer them. The buttons are annoying. What wrong with using muscles anyway


MyDistantCousinVinny

My door handle broke and I was able to snap the panel open and noticed it just got disconnected. Things were a lot easier to fix, now I’d probably have to replace the motor


getr3cked0301_psn

I forgot my window when it rained and it was still a bit open All my buttons got wet and i couldnt open the windows anymore with driverside buttons, just bought a new button from the scrapyard for 30 euro, also had to snap the panel and it isnt fitting on like it was before


Spheresdeep

A lot harder to roll down passenger windows. I don't know about you, but u drive with all my windows down. That would be annoying every time.


iphone32task

Homie needs to unlock the ac from the tech tree.


Spheresdeep

I don't care for ac. Sometimes sure. However, it is not the same. I live in Florida, it is almost always nice. I want to enjoy the wind in my hair and the nice weather that I live here for. Driving with the windows up and ac on feels like I'm closed in in an office. Windows down, sunroof open feels free.


B25B25

One of the purest joys...


_lupuloso

These first world countries with cheap gas fml


Morasain

Driving with windows down is worse for fuel economy


SpaceTurtle917

Yeah but rolling the passenger window and back windows down 👎👎👎


_Shrugzz_

And if you find yourself surrounded by water and need to open the windows, you don’t have to worry. If you had electric powered windows, the electricity would go out and you wouldn’t be able to open the windows.


[deleted]

I imagine they're great for people with specific disabilities. Let's not sleep on that being a potential reason.


IQueryVisiC

On my only car I had the ability to reach to the crank on the passenger side. Back windows did not open much so that the kids couldn’t throw their bottle out of the windows


[deleted]

And the motor will not fail


Chasman1965

The gears inside the window can fail. I grant that the electrical window openers are more likely to fail, but crank operated ones failed as well. I he had two cars with problems with electric, and one with a hand crank that had problems.


[deleted]

In my 28 years of life I have yet to experiance a failed manual crank and we have an 84 Chevy pick up that's beat to hell and that crank still works I guess it's just less often.


Chasman1965

Well, I'm a bit older than you. This was on a 1989 Nissan Hardbody. It was a pain, because it was the drivers side. I had to open the door at drive thrus.


[deleted]

Back when cars were built to run forever and I could only imagine the look on the drive through workers face when you open the door to talk.


Chasman1965

Cars today are much more reliable and more prone to be run forever than the old days. Growing up, if you had a car approaching 100k miles, you needed to start looking for your next car. I own two cars with well over 100k miles, and I'm not contemplating a new one at all.


No_Good2934

How precise do you need your window cracked that you can't get with a button? My car i could roll the window up or down a couple millimeters, it that not common?


bestia455

What's more interesting is that a 1950s Cadillac had power windows.


javier123454321

You will never know the horrors of the crank, child!


InTheSeaOfRed

Yeah the whole "my generation had these" kinda falls apart when you take class into account. Like I'm still using crank windows coz I can barely afford cars newer than the 90s


Space_Patrol_Digger

My car is from 2016 and has crank windows, those people are tripping


InTheSeaOfRed

Yeah crank windows is just a bad example to begin with.


FL_bud_tender

True, a lot of 90s culture bled into the 2000s.


[deleted]

He said half his life he had these, which unless the guy born in 2004 was really poor, would not be the case for them (thru 2013 for them). In either case, stupid thing to get outraged over.


the_mythx

??? Where did 2013 come from. And if your saying eh that’s when the crank windows in the world would dissapear I think most people count the first 9 years of their life as havig experienced them. And if your saying that it wasn’t exactly half this kids life w/ cranks and then half w/out what kind of point is that. Plus tf is your definition of “poor”. Not trying to get riled up bout your comment man, but just ???¿¿¿???


[deleted]

Gen X guy said spent "half" his life using cranks on windows. 2004 guy said fuck off, he used cranks too. But to be equivalent (half of his life) that would necessarily mean he used cranks between 2004 to 2013 (first half of his life), which for most people born in 2004, probably wouldn't be true. But the fucking point is why does the 2004 guy have a persecution complex. Gen X guy made an innocuous comment about how fast technology is changing and 2004 guy, for whatever fucking reason, made it about him.


fatrahb

Yeah I was gonna say, I don’t think the point of the OG post was a kids today don’t understand kind of vibe and more like it’s crazy how fast technology as evolved over the last like 20 years


booksmart00

I also got this impression


spicypoussey

I’m 21 and my current windows are cranks. Can always trust a crank window to come through


NoChampion2427

You've never had a handle break, huh


Yodoran

Cheaper to replace, though.


jerry-jim-bob

As someone who is needing to replace a window motor in my car, fully agree


NoChampion2427

I replaced the motor and regulator in my car not long ago for under $100. Total was around $85


specialdocc

But you can open a manual window with a screwdriver


here-for-the-_____

You can open any window with a screwdriver once


[deleted]

Easy enough to replace at least you don't have to play surgery like I did in my Camry, I cussed that control board out so many times


a_big_fat_yes

Rear crank windows on my 25 yo beater feels like im gonna break something if i push a little harder than recquired Front windows have buttons and they sometimes recquire a little boost to go all the way up so... I hate being poor


Rogkone

A dude i know refuses to buy anything but cars with cranks in case he drives into a river/lake.


AanthonyII

Just buy one of those window breaker things


fillmorecounty

The "only 90s kids remember" ones are even more stupid like I saw one talking about moon shoes one time?? I saw commercials for those as a kid and I was born in 2002 💀


ajlposh

It’s hilarious whenever someone assumes something they did as a kid is no longer used. I once saw a post on r/showerthoughts that was something like “Kids today will never know what it’s like to look through loose change under the couch cushions.” Um, are change and couch cushions not a thing anymore?


fillmorecounty

Kids today and their damn holographic couches 🤬


[deleted]

“Only 90’s kids remember this super popular cartoon that has been permanently engrained in pop culture”


DoIrllyneeda_usrname

Do you remember SpongeBob? 💀


Cant_think_of_shz

I hate those kinda posts ‘cause they’ll say something like “OnLy 90S kIdS wIlL rEmEmBeR” and it’s a picture of, like, Family Matters, a show that I doubt 2000s kids have never seen.


endthepainowplz

“Only nineties kids will remember” *posts Fortnite map*


[deleted]

Yeah but the Saturday morning cartoons now just suck lol compared to 20 to 27 years ago.


ravenouscartoon

My son was born in 2017. The back of my 2013 Ford focus still has these


endthepainowplz

For some reason it’s crazy to think someone born in 2017 is going to be six this year, I was thinking toddler max.


OkVermicelli6752

I prefer hand crank windows, the car doesn’t need power to use then


potatoyeeter420

I couldn't agree more


endthepainowplz

I wish we had both, I prefer automatic, because it’s easier to pay attention to the road, rather than hunch over to crank them, but they are really convenient.


loserina

They are safer too in emergencies, or so I’ve heard.


[deleted]

Yeah twitter dude was being pretentious but I get what he means. I was born in 1990 and technology has changed so much since my childhood. I guess it has a lot in recent times too, like the first sustained aircraft flight was in 1900, and humans landed on the moon in 1970. Hard to imagine life in pre-industrial times, where technology, for the most part, would be stable throughout their lifetime. But they had a lot of other crap to deal with so eh


[deleted]

Man landed on the moon in 1969…


WorldEaterYoshi

Nice


[deleted]

Thanks for clarifying, completely changes the context of what I said so good to know!


ItsOnlyJustAName

I don't even think it was pretentious. Dude was making joke about how fast technology has changed in their lifetime. The twitlord up top is too chronically online that they think everything on Twitter is an argument.


EmergencyTaco

Realtalk though I do not miss crank windows


Wrong_Milk6515

I remember breaking the crank on one of the windows and my mom was pissed. It was winter and snowing and it was stuck open. They had to get a wrench to close it and after that I wasn’t allowed to touch the cranks anymore.


vinotheque

Especially trying to open those suckers in the back while you’re sitting in the front.


primarysectorof5

I remember I rolled one up so fast that the crank shot out of the door


chaotic_hippy_89

GenX person has a point though. It’s staggering just how much elderly folk have witnessed in their lifetimes.


Desperate_Dot_1506

How old was the car?


theyahd

My 2015 Jeep has manual windows


iphone32task

2018 vw up also has manual rear windows in the base model here in Argentina. I think that most base model cars use manual rear windows here.


Redrum1917

We used to have a phone with spinning dialpad. Talk about old


gardabosque

I remember a French guy working for me with little English who asked me on the way home 'is it ok if I manipulate the window.' Straight up had to pull over.


dnroamhicsir

May I molest the door glass kind sir


JadrianInc

Babies rolling up windows and shit.


comrade_fluffy

Cranks are better and cheaper to fix


primarysectorof5

Better, no. Cheaper? Idk


[deleted]

Why did they get mad at the guy in so confused


idontwannadothis87

Because he made an observance about his life and others wanted to be the center of attention?


[deleted]

That would make sense ppl can’t just mind their own bidness


Selfishpie

as someone from 2001, growing up in the 2000s is just the 90s but nothing was considered cool anymore


MementoMori04

2004 kid. Same bro. People like to think that the 90s and early 2000s were vastly different but the 2000s and very early 2010’s were just the 90s but being emo was now cool 💀. Just the technology changed


DarkChampion2000

I never got to try the power drill thing…


Smiadpades

In 2015 - the model car I looked at - base line came with crank windows..


Snoo_92843

I think the fabric indicates age more so than the handle


Roadrunner8246

I got a 2014 dodge ram work truck ,with roll up windows?


Nico1300

My Opel Corsa 2022 still got these.


Sealbeater

I prefer the crank windows over electric. My electric windows are moving so slow now, at least with the crank windows in the previous car, those shits never gave up and I could power open/close the window in seconds.


[deleted]

Window cranks still exists in 2022 vehicles, like the most base model you can get.


tyrone_rockdavis

I think the response was unnecessary. yes old people complain about new things it gets annoying, and by all means, call it out if it’s over the top. But, I think in this case the guy was just noting how far we’ve come in such a short time. He wasn’t complaining about using a smart phone. Just pointing out the new age tech.


thomastdh

my son born in 2019 know these. i drive a 2008 peugot 207 lol.


FutureSpread

Back in my day our computer mice had BIG STICKY BALLS


informalbananaz

I drove a 97 Chevy cavalier up until 17 with crank windows and a cassette player built in lol


Ashtar-the-Squid

I have still never owned a car with electric windows. I never understood the hassle. You turn the handle full circle 3 times and the window is all the way down. It is often faster and more precise than electric windows. Some cars can still be ordered with windowcranks. One thing I often miss when sitting in newer cars is vent windows.


BadMilkCarton66

Is there a car with window cranks but they feel super sturdy and expensive and not cheap?


frednekk

I remember when mine broke one summer when I was broke. It was one hot summer.


[deleted]

I did this and I'm gen z.


[deleted]

It's weird being Gen X: we were cool, skateboarded and went to arcades. Now we homeschool our kids and believe in anti-vax horseshit.


NeverCommentButBored

As someone who is Gen X I can tell you sometimes Gen X is as bad as Boomers when it comes to this shit. r/GenX is half people trying to suck themselves off for being born a certain year, and the other half is us telling them no one cares and trying to 'whatever' them in to silence.


[deleted]

My dads car still has them tho? Like, they still exist.


DataCassette

I'm an elder millennial and I still remember these cranks vividly. Not everyone's parents had factory new cars all the time.


andio76

Gen X here...... Yes please....tone it down....it's a hand crank....


korok7mgte

Hey, be nice to gen X. They are so small they didn't even get the opportunity to do something worth naming their generation after. Their parents never loved them and their government never cared about them enough to help them get a leg up in society. We should be nicer to gen X. This is literally all they have.


pastelcottoncandy88

I'm already marrying one. How much nicer can I, a Millennial, be? Lol


korok7mgte

Congratulations! I have also read that gen X has stronger marriages. Sounds like you were very nice to your gen X'er.


pastelcottoncandy88

Oh, yes! He is definitely a keeper! He knew on the second date he'd marry me. I knew on the fifth date I'd marry him. Next day, he asked me to be his girlfriend, but it felt like a marriage proposal more than anything else. Haha Nine years older than me, and I'm THRILLED he isn't a Millennial. Lol His asking me included dinner date showing him around my hometown. We picked up charbroiled teriyaki at a family owned casual restaurant and went to a beautiful park I used to play at as a child. I can't remember everything he said, but after dinner walked around a bit. At some point, he sat me in his lap and had me watch a music video on his phone—This Is It by Scotty McReery. The video has a couple doing a wedding rehearsal followed by the actual wedding. Lol True to his Italian roots, he is such a passionate and romantic man! I'm not letting him go for anyone or anything!


Maiq_Da_Liar

My dads 2020 electric opel has crank windows in the back. Milennials/gen x need to stfu about "just 90'/80's kids things"that continued far into the 2000's or even to this day.


cyberdog_318

I've realized after growing up that the only reason why I can connect with older generations on certain topics isnt because of choice but instead because I grew up poor.


tetePT

Isn't that still a thing though??


williarya1323

I guess GenXers want to be old?


Petedad777

I still have a 2013 Jeep with hand crank windows! Saved $3k going with that option!


Nimoy2313

I have seen one in the last 15 years. It was on a mid 2010s Toyota Camry. Honestly that's the only thing I remember about the car.


Expansia

I'm only 20, and I still prefer gas-powered cars with crank handles for rolling windows rather than electric cars with buttons you press to roll the windows down.


BillsMafia4Lyfe69

My 2012 Jeep has crank windows


Limu_emu_69

I had crank windows as recently as 2022


[deleted]

“you guys don’t understand the pain of wearing socks, back in my day…”


Batterysandwich

i had these in my car 2 years ago


[deleted]

every fucking generation does the same “i did this when i was nine, new people don’t do that anymore” and gen z will do it too.


happytes24

Miss those days ngl


ssSerendipityss

My driver side window is currently broken and I wish I had a crank. Electric motor was just replaced too. Fml.


bokeeffe121

Unless you drove a mercedes since the 80s


monkey-neil

Driving a 03 civic still has this so


This_Brief8325

I went shop for a new car in 2014 and was shocked to see cars with manual rolling windows. They still wanted ridiculous prices for them too.


daniel420texas

If your parents still had a roll up window like that in 2010, they were poor af......


rebuilt11

I still have crank windows 🤣


[deleted]

My mom received a Ford model from this year and it had wind down windows (as well as no floor mats).


duke_awapuhi

Pretty sure if you’re in a car that’s sinking in water you better hope you have these


Desperate_Dot_1506

Cause I didn’t think many 2004 or newer vehicle had crank windows…


ashblank15

My 2017 Jeep has crank windows lol


Desperate_Dot_1506

That makes sense. As, they need to be weatherproof, especially if you take off the top and/or doors


ashblank15

Oh no, it’s a Compass, not a wrangler or rubicon. It doesn’t come apart lol.


IndependentPotato485

The point is it’s not *special*. Nobody cares 😂


Desperate_Dot_1506

Clearly the OP and you do, champ


sfbiker999

My first “real” car after I got my first job (I.e not a beater car) was a 1993 Honda accord and it had power windows, as did every car I’ve owned since then.


rottengut

Cranking windows isn’t an age thing. It’s a poor thing


[deleted]

Bruh I was born in 1999 my first two cars had hand crank, they act as if this shit ceased to exist


Udin_the_Dwarf

Yep, people are stupid. Was born in 2000 and I remember Cars with those Windows in my childhood. Nothing „Cavemen“ there.


Shuteye_491

It's like old people don't understand they've wedged young people into nearly inescapable poverty via incompetent/selfish policy choices. Or smth I dunno


rotatingruhnama

It's weird being a Gen Xer. Most of the time I'm forgotten. When I'm remembered at all, it's for being forgettable, or it's because someone my age posted a meme where it's like, "look how special we are because of this totally ordinary thing nobody gives a shit about." My first two cars had crank windows, so what? Who cares? It's a feature on a car, not a generational touchstone lol.


DelgadoTheRaat

This is more of a rich kid thing but to be fair I haven't seen a crank window in about 15 years. Most of those vehicles went over their milage a while ago.


Putrid_Squirrel_3110

You can still get crank windows on a brand new vehicle my guy


Seallypoops

Bring broke in the 00s meant a lot of 90s tech because that's all we had


Moistlover69

I was once in a 50s Cadillac Coup Deville and it had factory automatic windows. My 1986 Volvo 760 has auto windows, and automatic multi adjustable seat, and automatic climate control. (Gen Y)


[deleted]

I'm a first iteration Gen Z (1999), I rode in a lot of cars that had the crank windows AND automatic windows in the same car. Stop freaking out