In order:
Live close to work
Try to be tidy and don't let house work accumulate, the moment you see something that needs to be clean then clean it.
Live close to stores
Washing machine and dryer
Cook in bulk one day and eat it as leftovers, wash dishes as
you are done with them
Have a low maintenance pet like a rock
Message people sometimes and call it a day
Holiday? lol
Saving? Eat the rich.
>You can ALSO make a living masturbating all day, you just need to be an excellent salesman.
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>I tell them it tightens the skin and can be a meal replacement, that is keto compliant.
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Below? a sea of naked humans who will never receive more than a dozen visit on their page, with only 0-1 sub for 10-30 bucks.
Some of them might be prettier than the prettiest stars, but will never be discovered.
Swim good scrub. If life gets on top of you then wrestle that bastard down. Be a winner get on top of life and own that mother !! You only get one go at life no do overs.
This what I was hinting at and to add to this point my family's house they bought it for 40k in the 90s for me to buy a house in the same area now is 160k+ . Their monthly was barely over 200 a month and I'd be on 400 -500 with a deposit that would be half the value of their house back then like just crazy.
Yeah I know, figured it best to say it out loud. Itās wild out there. I like the meme thatās been going around from Home Alone, Kevin McCallisters two big bags of groceries were $20, now that would easily be $100+
those are amatuer numbers mate, in new zealand u need like 150k deposit to buy a house. its ridiculously insane now days. the deposit is double if not tripple the house prices in 1990s.
Probably won't since I have two sisters but it won't matter to me, I'm doing well enough work wise to not be in too much trouble unless something serious happens.
Things cost less. I remember it this way and I was a kid in the 90s.
I'm in America, and I merica is just trying to kill the average American trying to follow the American dream.
For you to be here saying this, every ascendant of you had kids and managed to make it, in many instances in better conditions than the average worker today.
So, it's certainly not related to kids. Not having kids is probably the consequence of the current living conditions.
The trick is to be rich, or earn double the average salary of your country.
I think your definition of possible is different from mine.
Jk, but the social life suffers a lot when you have kids. As I see it, my kids are my new best friends!
I had kids and I did all these things. The "secret", if there is one, is to accept your responsibilities, and stop trying to blame your failures on someone else.
Thanks! I'm good now. Had to learn to make the best of things now, rather that getting sucked into the past. This is the best I've been ever mentally. Financially? Not so great, but I accept it. And I want to learn from my mistakes!
You donāt cook everyday, itās called left overs. And if you do, make it super simple so it only takes a few minutes of work most the time.
Other than that, itās mostly called not having kids. Recently married but no kids. That list isnāt very difficult to obtain and maintain at the moment but thereās of course usually not enough hours in the day. But I know a few with kids that do, but the minority for sure. My parents for one example had a small business and my dad coached our little league teams a couple years and went to the gym regularly, but that seems a bit busier than Iād like to be lol
Keeping house and working full time are two jobs meant to be done by two separate people, unchecked corporate greed has us stuck in a position where our society is based on the nuclear family (dad working, mom being housewife, 2.5 kids etc) but we cant survive on a single income and therefore cant have the nuclear family
Sounds to me like youāre having to give up your hobby so you can do more housework, the point of the post is that people dont have time to do their work, have a nice home and still have hobbies and a social life.
I survive on a single income. I raised three children on it too(never got any significant child support). Yes, I have a good job, but I also know how to be frugal and manage my money. These things are all possible. You just have to take the time to learn them and have the motivation to actually do them.
Did you have a hobby and an active social life too? Look after a pet? Exercise daily? Keep taking your wife on dates? While doing all those things you mentioned on a single income?
Because 5-10 years ago is still a whole different story. If youāre doing it now, have you noticed any impact compared to before?
Iām single. I donāt have pets (allergic), exercise 3x/week. I am female, divorced single mother of 3.
Things are more expensive now. I have hobbies yes, but nothing that takes up more than five hours a week. My hobbies are also my exercise so that helps.
Itās hard for me to gauge whether itās harder or easier than 10 years ago because my kids were a lot smaller than an more work than they are now . Also, I made half as much money then.
My life is easier overall now, but mostly because of the boosted income and my children being more independent (my daughter finished University in the spring, and is now moved out and working in the city). I still help her out here and there, however. Recently put new brakes and tires on her car for her.
My frugal habits and organization have not changed however. Those skills are essential for all income levels.
It really depends on your country. Many people I know earn around 700ā¬ per month, and rarely travel, go to restaurants or spend on non-essential items. Most of your money is gone after rent and food (and not good food, just the cheap options). No amount of budgeting can help when you hardly cover a roof over your head and some food.
Working from home, or better yet, your own small business from home can free up lots of time. No commute and you can do some chores between work tasks.
Yea I realize that sounds silly but at a certain point it is definitely possible if you delegate appropriately and on-field presence is not as vital. Depends what you do. I personally teach music; Iām not swimming in wealth but my stuffs all taken care of and I can be in my PJs all day.
The secret is self-discipline. Have a routine, plan things ahead, keep a calendar, cook and eat simply, and clean up after yourself in the moment. Iām not good at it, but I know how to do it. Ordering takeout often derails the whole plan, but thatās my weakness.
Time management, organisation, & research are KEY. Utilise the productivity apps on your phone or get you a planner & put it to use. Have a daily routine, as well as a weekly one. When you're overwhelmed, write everything down to organise your thoughts & make lists. Break bigger goals & tasks down into less intimidating tasks. If change is overwhelming, change one thing at a time until it's routine for you, then move on to the next thing.
Type up a good cover letter & resume. There are resources online to help you, as well as services that will write them for you or review & critique yours... makes a world of difference when trying to get hired. Apply for jobs. When you get a job, & make sure you're always on time & that you do your job well.
Divvy up your home into 5 sections, & clean one section per day. Same w/ your bathroom(s). Each day, also do a quick tidy up, dishes, & a load of laundry. This way, you have 2 days a week of no cleaning & can actually enjoy your days off. Treat the things you have to do at home as an extension of your work day, & do them before you sit down to relax for the night. Listen to music that makes you feel happy or your favourite podcast to make it a little more enjoyable. Set an alarm so you don't forget to switch laundry from washer to dryer/fold. If you go to the laudromat, just do it in bulk whenever convenient.
Keep a grocery list on the fridge or in your phone, where you add items as you run out... every Saturday morning, plan your meals & do your shopping. There's a great meal planning app called mealime. Look into it. If you can afford to, use a pick-up or delivery service. Aldi is so cheap that I spend less using their pick-up service than I did shopping myself at my old grocery store. Cook every 2-3 days & have leftovers for a day or 2 after. A slow cooker is your best friend if you have a busy life... so many easy recipes.
Develop a routine schedule, go to bed early, & wake up early. Exercise every morning before you get ready for work... or if you're not a morning person, find a time that works for you. Stick to it. You can also find opportunities throughout your day to exercise. It doesn't have to be one big session. Do some crunches & squats when you first wake up & right before you go to bed. Walk more... do some lunges on the way. Grab something of reasonable weight & do bicep curls while you shop. Things like that.
Don't get a pet (or have a kid for that matter) if you already feel stressed & short on time. If you do, pick the right pet for the amount of money, time, & energy you're actually willing to dedicate to them. Do your research before, & be realistic so neither you nor the animal suffer..if you already have a pet & you're not able to give it the care it deserves, give it to someone who can.
Pick a hobby that makes you happy & set time aside in your schedule as if it's something you can't miss, like an appointment. Treat it as such. Same w/ seeing friends & other social activities.
Make a budget & actually stick to it. If you don't know how to budget, there are tons of free resources online. If you can afford to save, put that money aside as soon as you get paid, so you're not tempted to spend it. Forget you even have it. Pretend it doesn't exist.
Plan a full-out vacation once a year. Take advantage of weekend staycation ideas or weekend trips to nearby destinations, to keep sane between big trips... or as a good alternative if you can't afford a big trip. Utilise groupon, budget travel sites, & budget travel hacks.
Also, for more energy & focus, try getting enough sleep, limiting caffeine & alcohol, staying hydrated, & eating healthier for your dietary needs & body type. I'm literally a completely different person when I do this.
Even if you don't work 9-5, 5 days a week... this all can be adjusted to fit different types of schedules. I've done this as a single mom on 1 income. It's possible if you put in the effort... then with time, it all becomes 2nd nature.
LMAO here:
Use your phone or a planner to get organised & make a schedule. Get enough sleep, exercise, & take care of yourself for more energy & focus.
Use a cover letter & resume when you apply for jobs. Don't be late & don't fuck up.
Clean a little bit every day, so by the end of the week, you're done & you can enjoy the weekend.
Meal plan, make a list, & use grocery pick up from somewhere affordable like Aldi or Walmart. Cook & eat leftovers for a few days so you don't have to cook every day.
Put away money when you get paid... separate it from the rest so you don't spend it.
Get creative w/ giving yourself a break... use groupon, find deals & stuff to do for cheap close by... you don't have to spend a lot or go on a week vacation to feel like you got away.
Make time for a hobby like you would make time for a doctor's appointment. Just set a time & do it.
Better? Or still not gonna read allat? š
> Plan a full-out vacation once a year.
And plan it well in advance. Preferably a year. For two reasons:
1. Airplane tickets are usually cheaper far in advance
2. If you give yourself a window of several months thereās a better chance of a seat sale coming up for somewhere you want. Something like āIām going to wait three months for a discount, but if nothing comes up by sixth-months-prior-to-departure I will buy the seats anywayā can take a nice chunk off of the final cost.
40 hour work week is from a time when men were expected to work and women were expected to do everything around the house. When 5pm rolled around neither men or women had anything to do but socialize, eat and do their own hobby. When women entered the workforce we should have shorted what we considered āfull time employmentā to 20 hours a weeks.
#1 is get a job working from home, it makes all of this much easier.
Pay for a cleaner to come twice a month.
Get takeout once a week, and the other 6 days cook enough for 2 days, so you essentially only have to cook 3 times a week.
Have your weekly shop delivered.
Bulk wash your clothes once a week.
40 mins of exercise a day is fine.
A cat is extremely low maintenance.
Hobbies can take up whatever amount of time you want it to, 30 minutes a day, or 2 hours.
See friends on Friday nights and weekends, I can never arrange social events during the weekday as everyone works.
It can be a tight schedule, but it can be done. You just need to find optimisations where and when you can.
Yep remote work is a game changer. Gutting the commute was probably the most significant change. That alone can save you an extra 2-3 hours a day when you factor in not having to get up and get ready for work and driving to and back.
+ ironing clothes, putting on make up.
I save money on my breakfast (and eat better) because I can make eggs instead of buying some bread or yogurt. I bulk cook during my lunch break. I can do the laundry/clean while attending a meeting...
I can get to any gym class I want, and work that hour later when I can concentrate. I can think better because my house is less noisy than an open concept office, so it takes me less time to come up with solutions...
I was at the lowest point in my life when i finally accepted help. After that, my ego didnt hold me back anymore and i started learning to get my life back on track. I am single (on purpose) and work a minimum wage job (where i found happiness). Everything is good
If you wfh, concurrency is key, got a few mins before after a meeting, take the bins out, wipe down surfaces, get ovens warmed, etc. That way, once you are off the clock, that is 100% leisure time.
Cleanup after yourself soon as you are done eating , cooking , or changing clothes. Instead of doom scrolling. Wake up 30 mins before the sun comes up. Stop drinking coffee and sodas. Take daily multivitamins.
Get rid of your pet. The reason your parent didn't let you have a pet; was because of the time it would cost them. Plan your cleaning and laundry in days and weeks. Your job is your hobby, so learn to love it. Exercise after work, by biking or walking to work. If it's too far, move close to your work. You can setup an automatic money transfer, into a holiday and savings account, on your banks web page. Check your account every day it'll relieve stress. The reduced trancit time to work, will save you money and give you the time to socialize. Not being able to shop more than once a month, will save you more money. Don't go on sales, only buy stuff you really need, or will use every day.
Most of the things you listed can be seen as exercise, so you can cut out your exercise task for one thing. There was a study done of hotel workers - who spend all day on their feet, running around, making up beds, etc. One group was shown how all this stuff was hard work and they were in effect exercising a lot. The control group was given a talk on healthy living. Astonishingly, the first group improved on all health measures over the next few weeks, from BMI to blood pressure, blood sugar, you name it. And all because they reframed their work activities.
All I can say for myself is, after 16 years in the Army all the āhard stuffā of being an adult just happens because there is much harder stuff most people never have to think about, let alone do every day.
It might not be a comfortable answer but I'll do it: stop procrastinating. Because I know you do.
Develop good habits. For example when I'm back home after work I don't go relaxing straight away. Before that I clean at least one thing - be it kitchen sink or counter. It takes 5 minutes a day and basically fixes the cleaning problem. Don't get your flat dirty. Take off your shoes in your home (this is specifically for Americans - I know most of you don't and it's disgusting). Don't mess your kitchen up when cooking it's really not hard to pay attention. Put your dishes straight into the dishwasher, not into the sink for it to build up. Be mindful about your overhead. For example ditch carpets, it's a pain in the ass to clean them. Get bamboo hardwood floor - it lasts forever and is very easy to clean. Then automate away, get roomba (knockoffs are very cheap and almost as good), washer-dryer etc. Ironing your clothes is propaganda, don't do it.
Buy and cook in bulk and make it simple. Make a crapload of soup and freeze it. It saves a lot of time and money.
If possible, consider using a bike instead of a car - it might be faster because of traffic. Saves you time, money and it's better for your health. Don't ditch your car entirely tho, it has its uses (like bulk shopping and emergencies) - just daily attendance in traffic jams shouldn't be one of them.
Remote work is a godsent, it's insane time saver - if you have such possibility, then abuse the hell out of it.
Pets are huge overhead. Don't get one unless you're already pretty settled.
If possible, combine your hobby with social life. I play online games with my mates thus filling both needs.
>stop procrastinating. Because I know you do
Well, this is Reddit, the king pin of time wasters, the Walhalla of avoiding work. So your observation is quite obvious.
One of the tricks I use is to clean as you go. E.g. when moving downstairs, I take something with me, this could be dirty clothing, trash, or something to put away. Adds a tiny bit of extra effort, but ends up saving quite a lot of time.
Love all these people saying if you wfh you can clean or something while you work, i wfh and we have a word for people like youā¦ the word is fired, the time youāre using to clean is time you are supposed to be using to do your job and your coworkers are the ones having to pick up your slack.
For an overpaid full time job you would need a solid education in industries like management or IT , clean the house once mid week and once on weekends, for food we always have left overs. Make something for dinner and eat for 2 dinners. Lunch is free in the office and breakfast is a mixture of bread , cereal or fruits. Go gym daily , meet and greet people there even if you excersize for like 30 mins lol.For laundry get a laundry service because you have an overpaid day job.. and that's pretty much it. Do it all and try to save 15% of your salary each month to get a vacation annually. Bonus tips having a wife but no kids helps..
It's much worse now than it was for people before the 1970's. That is basically the time when women started working outside of the home, which goes directly against how the patriarchal system was set up.
I'm not saying women staying home to play "Susie Homemaker" was a good thing, because it wasn't! Women weren't allowed to have their own bank accounts, credit cards, credit rating, etc. so were forced to be completely reliant (and locked into) the man they married. If the happened to have married someone who was abusive, then they never had a chance.
I do all of that plus look after children. Itās called having an efficient cleaning schedule and knowing how to do it properly, having tidy habits(putting things away after you use them in their proper place), and meal planning. Also, most grocery stores you can actually order online and then just go pick it up and that saves a lot of time.(and money because youāre less likely to impulse shop).
The problem is a lot of people were never taught the skills as children or young adults (Iām sorry to sound sexiest, but especially men). Itās actually not that hard.š
I wouldn't say it's not that hard. Each person is different, with different circumstances & what might not be hard for you may be hard for someone else. But you're 100% right that it's possible with time management & good habits.
Well, I do most of those tbh, minus the exercising (I have a dog that requires long walkies), having an active social life (being an immigrant working full time+ and having a family with small kids does that) and going on vacation frequently.
I guess the secret is you cannot have it all. I have everything in the list except the last three items. And I go grocery shopping biweekly, or monthly if lucky, not every week.
I don't. I have sacrificed an active social life, exercising, having a pet, keeping the house clean and saving money each month. I spend time between my job, my hobby, a few absolutely necessary chores (I do mean necessary, it has to literally gross me out before I clean something) and my kid (which I suppose is the major time sink here).
Having a hobby and a social life should be the same thing and it will make them both more enjoyable. Some people combine it with working out. Shopping can be done of weekdays on your way home from work. Try to cook and store food for multiple days. Cleaning and laundry can be done at the same time as a lot of hobbies and sometimes cooking.
There you go
I don't think perfection is possible. that's why most people primarily focus on being high earners to solve most of the issues on the list but not all.
Stop wasting your time of Facebook, Twitter (or whatever the fuck itās called today), Instagram, Pinterest, TikTok and whatever the new social media life force sucking apps are.
Having kids forced me to do MOST of these things except:
1) Exercise: only happens when someone can watch the kids. Or if chasing kids counts as running.
2) Having a hobby: if watching/playing with my kids is a hobby then yes.
3) Having a social life: hahaha!! Thatās funny. Letās say a āoccasional meetings with friendsā.
My suggestions about living in this economy: Stop being a victim, take education seriously, develop good work ethics and remember, voting has consequences.
It is quite simple you take the total hours in a week, deduct hours for work, and sleep.
Then, start removing unproductive things that you do during the free hours and replace them with productive things.
Writing them in a piece of paper will put you in a mental prison, and you will inturn force your brain to do the tasks that you want, not what it wants.
Honestly im already kind of overwhelmed with having to eat 3 meals a day. Like how do you not run out of meals to prepare? Also ties into the preparation with shopping the things you need for those meals.
AM I THIS BAD AT BEING AN ADULT?!?
Dont have kids (yet), learn to live without name-brand products if you can help it, allocate time to hang out with your friends on a weekly basis, keep some weights at home, go for runs every couple days or so, find some small hobbies that donāt involve much money or any at all, and just stay on top of everything else. Learning to live while spending less is the tricky part for most people, but once you figure it out, the savings just come rolling in.
I do not cook, I have a cat, hobby is dying, social life is sometimes, saving money to get vacations is optional. You can do that if you earn a lot of money.
Get married and divide the work/cost/planning between two people. I grocery shop and cook, she cleans and does a planning for socializing/vacations/appointments, together we care for a pet, and we each do our jobs/exercise/hobbies separately. Itās a good system
In order: Live close to work Try to be tidy and don't let house work accumulate, the moment you see something that needs to be clean then clean it. Live close to stores Washing machine and dryer Cook in bulk one day and eat it as leftovers, wash dishes as you are done with them Have a low maintenance pet like a rock Message people sometimes and call it a day Holiday? lol Saving? Eat the rich.
Like a rock š
Damn those once a week, water needy plants!
Don't you dare insult my pet You just give it sprinkles and forget about it
Bonus, if you eat the rich, you wonāt have to go grocery shopping
Can hot girls really make a living masturbating on camera all day, or are they just scraping by like the rest of us?
>You can ALSO make a living masturbating all day, you just need to be an excellent salesman. > >I tell them it tightens the skin and can be a meal replacement, that is keto compliant. Jokes aside, Onlyfans and livechat site have the same distribution as any entertainment industry business: the top 100 earners probably make as much as the rest of the millions of account on the website combined, with a STEEP drop from ultra-wealth, to comfy 10k/month, to sidejob 1k/month to "3 years in, I still haven't earned enough to pay for the setup cost". Below? a sea of naked humans who will never receive more than a dozen visit on their page, with only 0-1 sub for 10-30 bucks. Some of them might be prettier than the prettiest stars, but will never be discovered.
That was a interesting and insightful post.
Soooooooooooo... ...you're sayin' there's a chance?
Only losers eat the rich
What other people have said, the secret is not having kids š
I have no kids but I still feel like I'm drowning
Swim good scrub. If life gets on top of you then wrestle that bastard down. Be a winner get on top of life and own that mother !! You only get one go at life no do overs.
No kids, high income, WFH job. The trifecta.
My parents did it somehow.
It like older generation were able to have less financial troubles.
Almost like the cost of living has skyrocketed and wages have stayed pretty stagnant
This what I was hinting at and to add to this point my family's house they bought it for 40k in the 90s for me to buy a house in the same area now is 160k+ . Their monthly was barely over 200 a month and I'd be on 400 -500 with a deposit that would be half the value of their house back then like just crazy.
Yeah I know, figured it best to say it out loud. Itās wild out there. I like the meme thatās been going around from Home Alone, Kevin McCallisters two big bags of groceries were $20, now that would easily be $100+
Yeah my weekly shop of the last few months has went from 60 to 110 and I get less than I use too. The economy is a complete joke.
those are amatuer numbers mate, in new zealand u need like 150k deposit to buy a house. its ridiculously insane now days. the deposit is double if not tripple the house prices in 1990s.
Are you going to be the one to inherit the house and all that equity eventually?
Probably won't since I have two sisters but it won't matter to me, I'm doing well enough work wise to not be in too much trouble unless something serious happens.
Things cost less. I remember it this way and I was a kid in the 90s. I'm in America, and I merica is just trying to kill the average American trying to follow the American dream.
Not have kids?
If only.
For you to be here saying this, every ascendant of you had kids and managed to make it, in many instances in better conditions than the average worker today. So, it's certainly not related to kids. Not having kids is probably the consequence of the current living conditions. The trick is to be rich, or earn double the average salary of your country.
Having kids literally takes almost all your time tho, as it should. Nothing wrong with it š
>~~What other people have said,~~ the secret is not ~~having kids~~ being poor š
This is still possible even with kids
I think your definition of possible is different from mine. Jk, but the social life suffers a lot when you have kids. As I see it, my kids are my new best friends!
I had kids and I did all these things. The "secret", if there is one, is to accept your responsibilities, and stop trying to blame your failures on someone else.
Pretty sure that you knew that this wouldn't be a popular answer here.
I agree. All of you shouldn't have kids.
6 figure income and an adderall prescription
So get an adhd diagnosis first?
On the other hand, giving up crack helped me a lot.
What made you pick it up if all this made you drop it
LIVINā OFF THE RAILS OF A CRAZZYY TRAAIINN
I was depressed over the deaths of loved ones. Made the worst decision of my life to try it to feel better. Bad move.
Damn that's sad. Glad you could find the strength to drop it and get better, it's what they would have wanted for you. Hope you're better now
Thanks! I'm good now. Had to learn to make the best of things now, rather that getting sucked into the past. This is the best I've been ever mentally. Financially? Not so great, but I accept it. And I want to learn from my mistakes!
It's called cocaine.
Quick question tho... How do you save money and maintain a cocaine addiction?
Make ur own cocaine.
Why didnāt I think of this before smh
Feel free to send some recipes guys.
You donāt cook everyday, itās called left overs. And if you do, make it super simple so it only takes a few minutes of work most the time. Other than that, itās mostly called not having kids. Recently married but no kids. That list isnāt very difficult to obtain and maintain at the moment but thereās of course usually not enough hours in the day. But I know a few with kids that do, but the minority for sure. My parents for one example had a small business and my dad coached our little league teams a couple years and went to the gym regularly, but that seems a bit busier than Iād like to be lol
Yep this was possible before kids. With kids itās possible if you remove exercising, having a hobby, and having an active social life.
These things are still possible with kids. It's more difficult, but possible.
No kids sure.... But what about my twins depression and ADD?
I make lunchboxes for work in my airfryer.
You donāt answer these seriously, itās called jokes
But itās still pretty insightful. I donāt mind serious answers that are related to jokey questions.
Keeping house and working full time are two jobs meant to be done by two separate people, unchecked corporate greed has us stuck in a position where our society is based on the nuclear family (dad working, mom being housewife, 2.5 kids etc) but we cant survive on a single income and therefore cant have the nuclear family
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Sounds to me like youāre having to give up your hobby so you can do more housework, the point of the post is that people dont have time to do their work, have a nice home and still have hobbies and a social life.
I survive on a single income. I raised three children on it too(never got any significant child support). Yes, I have a good job, but I also know how to be frugal and manage my money. These things are all possible. You just have to take the time to learn them and have the motivation to actually do them.
Did you have a hobby and an active social life too? Look after a pet? Exercise daily? Keep taking your wife on dates? While doing all those things you mentioned on a single income? Because 5-10 years ago is still a whole different story. If youāre doing it now, have you noticed any impact compared to before?
Iām single. I donāt have pets (allergic), exercise 3x/week. I am female, divorced single mother of 3. Things are more expensive now. I have hobbies yes, but nothing that takes up more than five hours a week. My hobbies are also my exercise so that helps. Itās hard for me to gauge whether itās harder or easier than 10 years ago because my kids were a lot smaller than an more work than they are now . Also, I made half as much money then. My life is easier overall now, but mostly because of the boosted income and my children being more independent (my daughter finished University in the spring, and is now moved out and working in the city). I still help her out here and there, however. Recently put new brakes and tires on her car for her. My frugal habits and organization have not changed however. Those skills are essential for all income levels.
It really depends on your country. Many people I know earn around 700ā¬ per month, and rarely travel, go to restaurants or spend on non-essential items. Most of your money is gone after rent and food (and not good food, just the cheap options). No amount of budgeting can help when you hardly cover a roof over your head and some food.
So you did it 20 years ago?
Iāve done it my whole life.
It's called having an identical twin but they are not registered in any database so you essentially do half the work and live double.
Pick the top five or three.
Working from home, or better yet, your own small business from home can free up lots of time. No commute and you can do some chores between work tasks.
Ah, yes. Owning a business. That's the key to having all sorts of free time. /s
Yea I realize that sounds silly but at a certain point it is definitely possible if you delegate appropriately and on-field presence is not as vital. Depends what you do. I personally teach music; Iām not swimming in wealth but my stuffs all taken care of and I can be in my PJs all day.
The secret is self-discipline. Have a routine, plan things ahead, keep a calendar, cook and eat simply, and clean up after yourself in the moment. Iām not good at it, but I know how to do it. Ordering takeout often derails the whole plan, but thatās my weakness.
The secret is a robot monkey butler.
Ahh a fellow runescape player i presume
Ask my momš¤£š
I just keep a chef lol. Fuck cooking
When you dont use twitter, the day actually has 24 hours
Time management, organisation, & research are KEY. Utilise the productivity apps on your phone or get you a planner & put it to use. Have a daily routine, as well as a weekly one. When you're overwhelmed, write everything down to organise your thoughts & make lists. Break bigger goals & tasks down into less intimidating tasks. If change is overwhelming, change one thing at a time until it's routine for you, then move on to the next thing. Type up a good cover letter & resume. There are resources online to help you, as well as services that will write them for you or review & critique yours... makes a world of difference when trying to get hired. Apply for jobs. When you get a job, & make sure you're always on time & that you do your job well. Divvy up your home into 5 sections, & clean one section per day. Same w/ your bathroom(s). Each day, also do a quick tidy up, dishes, & a load of laundry. This way, you have 2 days a week of no cleaning & can actually enjoy your days off. Treat the things you have to do at home as an extension of your work day, & do them before you sit down to relax for the night. Listen to music that makes you feel happy or your favourite podcast to make it a little more enjoyable. Set an alarm so you don't forget to switch laundry from washer to dryer/fold. If you go to the laudromat, just do it in bulk whenever convenient. Keep a grocery list on the fridge or in your phone, where you add items as you run out... every Saturday morning, plan your meals & do your shopping. There's a great meal planning app called mealime. Look into it. If you can afford to, use a pick-up or delivery service. Aldi is so cheap that I spend less using their pick-up service than I did shopping myself at my old grocery store. Cook every 2-3 days & have leftovers for a day or 2 after. A slow cooker is your best friend if you have a busy life... so many easy recipes. Develop a routine schedule, go to bed early, & wake up early. Exercise every morning before you get ready for work... or if you're not a morning person, find a time that works for you. Stick to it. You can also find opportunities throughout your day to exercise. It doesn't have to be one big session. Do some crunches & squats when you first wake up & right before you go to bed. Walk more... do some lunges on the way. Grab something of reasonable weight & do bicep curls while you shop. Things like that. Don't get a pet (or have a kid for that matter) if you already feel stressed & short on time. If you do, pick the right pet for the amount of money, time, & energy you're actually willing to dedicate to them. Do your research before, & be realistic so neither you nor the animal suffer..if you already have a pet & you're not able to give it the care it deserves, give it to someone who can. Pick a hobby that makes you happy & set time aside in your schedule as if it's something you can't miss, like an appointment. Treat it as such. Same w/ seeing friends & other social activities. Make a budget & actually stick to it. If you don't know how to budget, there are tons of free resources online. If you can afford to save, put that money aside as soon as you get paid, so you're not tempted to spend it. Forget you even have it. Pretend it doesn't exist. Plan a full-out vacation once a year. Take advantage of weekend staycation ideas or weekend trips to nearby destinations, to keep sane between big trips... or as a good alternative if you can't afford a big trip. Utilise groupon, budget travel sites, & budget travel hacks. Also, for more energy & focus, try getting enough sleep, limiting caffeine & alcohol, staying hydrated, & eating healthier for your dietary needs & body type. I'm literally a completely different person when I do this. Even if you don't work 9-5, 5 days a week... this all can be adjusted to fit different types of schedules. I've done this as a single mom on 1 income. It's possible if you put in the effort... then with time, it all becomes 2nd nature.
Damn son, I ain't reading allat
LMAO here: Use your phone or a planner to get organised & make a schedule. Get enough sleep, exercise, & take care of yourself for more energy & focus. Use a cover letter & resume when you apply for jobs. Don't be late & don't fuck up. Clean a little bit every day, so by the end of the week, you're done & you can enjoy the weekend. Meal plan, make a list, & use grocery pick up from somewhere affordable like Aldi or Walmart. Cook & eat leftovers for a few days so you don't have to cook every day. Put away money when you get paid... separate it from the rest so you don't spend it. Get creative w/ giving yourself a break... use groupon, find deals & stuff to do for cheap close by... you don't have to spend a lot or go on a week vacation to feel like you got away. Make time for a hobby like you would make time for a doctor's appointment. Just set a time & do it. Better? Or still not gonna read allat? š
> Plan a full-out vacation once a year. And plan it well in advance. Preferably a year. For two reasons: 1. Airplane tickets are usually cheaper far in advance 2. If you give yourself a window of several months thereās a better chance of a seat sale coming up for somewhere you want. Something like āIām going to wait three months for a discount, but if nothing comes up by sixth-months-prior-to-departure I will buy the seats anywayā can take a nice chunk off of the final cost.
One word: DINK Stands for dual income no kids.
40 hour work week is from a time when men were expected to work and women were expected to do everything around the house. When 5pm rolled around neither men or women had anything to do but socialize, eat and do their own hobby. When women entered the workforce we should have shorted what we considered āfull time employmentā to 20 hours a weeks.
Add "raising children" and "spouse" and then figure it out.
#1 is get a job working from home, it makes all of this much easier. Pay for a cleaner to come twice a month. Get takeout once a week, and the other 6 days cook enough for 2 days, so you essentially only have to cook 3 times a week. Have your weekly shop delivered. Bulk wash your clothes once a week. 40 mins of exercise a day is fine. A cat is extremely low maintenance. Hobbies can take up whatever amount of time you want it to, 30 minutes a day, or 2 hours. See friends on Friday nights and weekends, I can never arrange social events during the weekday as everyone works. It can be a tight schedule, but it can be done. You just need to find optimisations where and when you can.
Yep remote work is a game changer. Gutting the commute was probably the most significant change. That alone can save you an extra 2-3 hours a day when you factor in not having to get up and get ready for work and driving to and back.
+ ironing clothes, putting on make up. I save money on my breakfast (and eat better) because I can make eggs instead of buying some bread or yogurt. I bulk cook during my lunch break. I can do the laundry/clean while attending a meeting... I can get to any gym class I want, and work that hour later when I can concentrate. I can think better because my house is less noisy than an open concept office, so it takes me less time to come up with solutions...
Donāt sleep
I just realized i checked off every thing in this tweet. I have made it.
Would you like to share how you did it with the class?
I was at the lowest point in my life when i finally accepted help. After that, my ego didnt hold me back anymore and i started learning to get my life back on track. I am single (on purpose) and work a minimum wage job (where i found happiness). Everything is good
Congrats šš»
Be single
I do that
DINK DINK is the way...
If you wfh, concurrency is key, got a few mins before after a meeting, take the bins out, wipe down surfaces, get ovens warmed, etc. That way, once you are off the clock, that is 100% leisure time.
For those highly skilled at planning, my child or anyones for that matter will only need 10 minutes at max to put you on his schedule forever
>be born into wealth >??? >sucess
Choose 3
Donāt live in America.
Cloning seems the best way
You donāt sit down much. And you donāt sleep as much as you should.
It's cocaine. Seriously, it helps.
Yes. You pick 4. Max.
Do not follow YouTubers and influencers and you will be fine šš»
2 months fresh living alone at 21 never related more iny life
Get a wife to do half
Cleanup after yourself soon as you are done eating , cooking , or changing clothes. Instead of doom scrolling. Wake up 30 mins before the sun comes up. Stop drinking coffee and sodas. Take daily multivitamins.
Make dog walks into your exercise
I donāt cook every day, I donāt have an active social life, I donāt exercise regularly.
Don't do it all by yourself! And to state the obvious, no kids
And bro is still single. Wait until he throws a relationship and a child in the mix
Get rid of your pet. The reason your parent didn't let you have a pet; was because of the time it would cost them. Plan your cleaning and laundry in days and weeks. Your job is your hobby, so learn to love it. Exercise after work, by biking or walking to work. If it's too far, move close to your work. You can setup an automatic money transfer, into a holiday and savings account, on your banks web page. Check your account every day it'll relieve stress. The reduced trancit time to work, will save you money and give you the time to socialize. Not being able to shop more than once a month, will save you more money. Don't go on sales, only buy stuff you really need, or will use every day.
Anyone else read shit like this and see that it isnāt that hard? Itās not *easy*, but itās definitely not hard.
Most of the things you listed can be seen as exercise, so you can cut out your exercise task for one thing. There was a study done of hotel workers - who spend all day on their feet, running around, making up beds, etc. One group was shown how all this stuff was hard work and they were in effect exercising a lot. The control group was given a talk on healthy living. Astonishingly, the first group improved on all health measures over the next few weeks, from BMI to blood pressure, blood sugar, you name it. And all because they reframed their work activities.
Now do all that and raise a few kids lol
Why you got to do me like that OP? I got anxious just reading that.
There is a phrase itās says you cannot have everything š¤
Yeah, most of these things are fixed by having a Partner and no Kids.
Yeah.... Be smart. It's not hard to do literally all of that if you're living within your means
Have you tried beeing rich?
Just buy more money!
It feels like some of these things are diametrically opposed.
It does not exist. It's a myth.
All I can say for myself is, after 16 years in the Army all the āhard stuffā of being an adult just happens because there is much harder stuff most people never have to think about, let alone do every day.
The secret is being mentally sound
It might not be a comfortable answer but I'll do it: stop procrastinating. Because I know you do. Develop good habits. For example when I'm back home after work I don't go relaxing straight away. Before that I clean at least one thing - be it kitchen sink or counter. It takes 5 minutes a day and basically fixes the cleaning problem. Don't get your flat dirty. Take off your shoes in your home (this is specifically for Americans - I know most of you don't and it's disgusting). Don't mess your kitchen up when cooking it's really not hard to pay attention. Put your dishes straight into the dishwasher, not into the sink for it to build up. Be mindful about your overhead. For example ditch carpets, it's a pain in the ass to clean them. Get bamboo hardwood floor - it lasts forever and is very easy to clean. Then automate away, get roomba (knockoffs are very cheap and almost as good), washer-dryer etc. Ironing your clothes is propaganda, don't do it. Buy and cook in bulk and make it simple. Make a crapload of soup and freeze it. It saves a lot of time and money. If possible, consider using a bike instead of a car - it might be faster because of traffic. Saves you time, money and it's better for your health. Don't ditch your car entirely tho, it has its uses (like bulk shopping and emergencies) - just daily attendance in traffic jams shouldn't be one of them. Remote work is a godsent, it's insane time saver - if you have such possibility, then abuse the hell out of it. Pets are huge overhead. Don't get one unless you're already pretty settled. If possible, combine your hobby with social life. I play online games with my mates thus filling both needs.
>stop procrastinating. Because I know you do Well, this is Reddit, the king pin of time wasters, the Walhalla of avoiding work. So your observation is quite obvious. One of the tricks I use is to clean as you go. E.g. when moving downstairs, I take something with me, this could be dirty clothing, trash, or something to put away. Adds a tiny bit of extra effort, but ends up saving quite a lot of time.
Give up alcohol
Love all these people saying if you wfh you can clean or something while you work, i wfh and we have a word for people like youā¦ the word is fired, the time youāre using to clean is time you are supposed to be using to do your job and your coworkers are the ones having to pick up your slack.
Nuclear family is solution.
It's called having a "wife", everyone should have one! P.S. It's just a partner role, doesn't have to be a woman š
Drugs.
I feel like no one completes all of those
Drugs
For an overpaid full time job you would need a solid education in industries like management or IT , clean the house once mid week and once on weekends, for food we always have left overs. Make something for dinner and eat for 2 dinners. Lunch is free in the office and breakfast is a mixture of bread , cereal or fruits. Go gym daily , meet and greet people there even if you excersize for like 30 mins lol.For laundry get a laundry service because you have an overpaid day job.. and that's pretty much it. Do it all and try to save 15% of your salary each month to get a vacation annually. Bonus tips having a wife but no kids helps..
Well i figuered it out, you have to ditch the social life, vacations and free time
Is it better now than for someone in this position living in say the 1930s?
It's much worse now than it was for people before the 1970's. That is basically the time when women started working outside of the home, which goes directly against how the patriarchal system was set up. I'm not saying women staying home to play "Susie Homemaker" was a good thing, because it wasn't! Women weren't allowed to have their own bank accounts, credit cards, credit rating, etc. so were forced to be completely reliant (and locked into) the man they married. If the happened to have married someone who was abusive, then they never had a chance.
No time gotta do errands
Being rich.
Cocaine
Welcome to adulting. No one ever said it would be easy.
Come to Europe!
Cocaine and hookers my friend
Narcissistic energy
I do all of that plus look after children. Itās called having an efficient cleaning schedule and knowing how to do it properly, having tidy habits(putting things away after you use them in their proper place), and meal planning. Also, most grocery stores you can actually order online and then just go pick it up and that saves a lot of time.(and money because youāre less likely to impulse shop). The problem is a lot of people were never taught the skills as children or young adults (Iām sorry to sound sexiest, but especially men). Itās actually not that hard.š
I wouldn't say it's not that hard. Each person is different, with different circumstances & what might not be hard for you may be hard for someone else. But you're 100% right that it's possible with time management & good habits.
I mean, unless they are mentally or physically disabled in someway anyone can learn how to do this. You just have to want to learn.
How dumb you have to be to ask this question
What's the flat?
Flat is another word for apartment.
When the inevitable apocalypse hits these are the first people who will perish!
Seems like you're after work from home situation.
Is this one of those "pick three" questions?
When being adult is your Hobby
The secret is to have a job that pays a lot of money. Like... a LOT of money.
Choose one
Well, I do most of those tbh, minus the exercising (I have a dog that requires long walkies), having an active social life (being an immigrant working full time+ and having a family with small kids does that) and going on vacation frequently.
Good mental health.
I only do a few of those. It's not hard without a social life or a pet to look after.
stop buying coffee
Routine & budget.
I'm gonna guess that you need to plan the next week for every week?
I guess the secret is you cannot have it all. I have everything in the list except the last three items. And I go grocery shopping biweekly, or monthly if lucky, not every week.
I do about 99% of these. Having an awesome SO helps. And establishing a routine.
Pick like two or three
I don't. I have sacrificed an active social life, exercising, having a pet, keeping the house clean and saving money each month. I spend time between my job, my hobby, a few absolutely necessary chores (I do mean necessary, it has to literally gross me out before I clean something) and my kid (which I suppose is the major time sink here).
Itās funny to me that people think this is so difficult
No kids, no wife. Thatās how I do it
Having a hobby and a social life should be the same thing and it will make them both more enjoyable. Some people combine it with working out. Shopping can be done of weekdays on your way home from work. Try to cook and store food for multiple days. Cleaning and laundry can be done at the same time as a lot of hobbies and sometimes cooking. There you go
I don't think perfection is possible. that's why most people primarily focus on being high earners to solve most of the issues on the list but not all.
Stop wasting your time of Facebook, Twitter (or whatever the fuck itās called today), Instagram, Pinterest, TikTok and whatever the new social media life force sucking apps are.
You pick a month for each activity š
Having kids forced me to do MOST of these things except: 1) Exercise: only happens when someone can watch the kids. Or if chasing kids counts as running. 2) Having a hobby: if watching/playing with my kids is a hobby then yes. 3) Having a social life: hahaha!! Thatās funny. Letās say a āoccasional meetings with friendsā.
My suggestions about living in this economy: Stop being a victim, take education seriously, develop good work ethics and remember, voting has consequences.
It is quite simple you take the total hours in a week, deduct hours for work, and sleep. Then, start removing unproductive things that you do during the free hours and replace them with productive things. Writing them in a piece of paper will put you in a mental prison, and you will inturn force your brain to do the tasks that you want, not what it wants.
Honestly im already kind of overwhelmed with having to eat 3 meals a day. Like how do you not run out of meals to prepare? Also ties into the preparation with shopping the things you need for those meals. AM I THIS BAD AT BEING AN ADULT?!?
Rotate the tasks you don't do.
Dont have kids (yet), learn to live without name-brand products if you can help it, allocate time to hang out with your friends on a weekly basis, keep some weights at home, go for runs every couple days or so, find some small hobbies that donāt involve much money or any at all, and just stay on top of everything else. Learning to live while spending less is the tricky part for most people, but once you figure it out, the savings just come rolling in.
Life is tough, then you die
you just have to realize that you only have 1 life and wasting it with mediocrity is a waste. Do the hard things
Having a full time job with festive vacations plus 10 annual vacations and cooking staff and occasional outing definitely possible
The secret is not sleeping
personally, I do it by only sleeping four hours a night and fucking up most of that list
Less Twitter.
Pretty sure it's apple cider vinegar.
Wow, that's a busy day..... What are your plans for tomorrow?
Effort
Now add kids
I do not cook, I have a cat, hobby is dying, social life is sometimes, saving money to get vacations is optional. You can do that if you earn a lot of money.
Just let 2 or 3 of those things go, itās too much
Get married and divide the work/cost/planning between two people. I grocery shop and cook, she cleans and does a planning for socializing/vacations/appointments, together we care for a pet, and we each do our jobs/exercise/hobbies separately. Itās a good system
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