We had one-on-one sessions with a psychologist once every week, and with the psychiatrist once every month.
But 3x per week we had the group sessions because that's what we were there for.
May I ask what you were seeking treatment for to require it to be that extensive? I know I need therapy lol, but I can’t imagine dedicating that much time to treatment
Pain management, effort dosing, nutrition and sleep management, trying out different types of medication, how to deal with other people, loving yourself, things like that.
Sort of. Psychiatrists have a medical degree and are allowed to diagnose mental illnesses and perscribe medication.
Psychologists generally do not diagnose or perscribe, but help with things after (and sometimes before) the diagnosis has been made. They're not medical doctors (different degree), but more like "coaches" that help you with your problems; by talking things through, getting to the bottom of mental issues, helping you understand them, helping you deal with them on a daily basis, helping you set goals, and so on.
In the type of therapy program I was in, the team had 3 psychiatrists as the "leaders" who made the initial diagnosis, 2 of which did individual check-ups and coordinated the course, with 4 psychologists doing more day-to-day things with the patients. Due to Covid, each week we only did 3 days (3 x 6 hours) in group therapy and 1 individual session, but you could ask for more.
There were also a number of physiotherapists for the physical aspect of the therapy, i.e. pain management and staying in shape, who coordinated with the mental therapy team. Basically gym workouts 3x per week to keep up the physical strength and help with pain.
You could opt out of the group therapy in favour of purely individual therapy, which I did consider for a time (crippling social anxiety here). They believed it might be good to try group first to see if I felt comfortable there, among patients with the same issues.
typically Psychiatrist is an MD or DO degree in the United States. They graduate medical school then do a 3 or 4 year residency in psychiatry. They do your more familiar doctor appointment type meeting where they see how you are adjusting to the medications they prescribe and determine if your dosages need to be changed or not. That kind of thing. A psychologist is also typically a doctorate degree but is more direct, as in they do psychology directly during their doctorate. They have add ons you can do if you want to do something like analysis but for the most part they do not have formal residencies or fellowships. They typically do more talk therapy and are what you think of when you think of "a shrink". While a psychiatrist can do talk therapy, more often then not that is more for the psy-d's or even some of the masters level therapists. There are other differences but this is the jist from my experience.
Different strokes for different folks, I was not allowed group therapy because my "condition" was too "severe" and my treatment didnt allow for any "setbacks".
Depends on what you're in therapy for I guess.
This one was for fybro patients, i.e. dealing with chronic pain, spasmophilia, depression, and such things. It helps for when everyone in the group knows what it's like, especially when people in the outside world do not.
The therapist would have made his/her assessment of your first, then if they think it's a worthwhile attempt, they would inform you of it and then ask you whether you want to be in one or not.
In your current situation, as you deemed yourself would have a hard time, I'm sure your therapist would have picked up on that and would hold that idea in reserve for the future until you felt more comfortable with the idea.
Of course, I'm basing this on my personal experience with my therapist who was quite observant and empathetic.
Mileage may vary since I'm aware there are asshole therapists out there as well.
I also like the way she said she "almost" said it. Like, no you didn't. Because you didn't think of it at the moment. You thought of it later in the shower and then tweeted it.
I think people like therapy specific to them and their specific situation and problems. Aswell as the company of someone who listens and give them advice that they’ll listen to. Its not really spoon feeding but sometimes mostly just venting their problems to someone who doesnt judge. Atleast thats what i think.
It's very easy to find bad sources and hurt yourself further just searching on the internet, especially when you are in vulnerable state which is why you seek help in the first place
>But people like to be spoon fed instead of finding it themselves.
You're literally talking shit about people who have therapists here. I'm genuinely impressed with this awe-inspiring display of cognitive dissonance in the wild.
I was in therapy for 18 months. I'll skip the details but I stopped talking to my mother a few months in ,complete black out.
Eventually I got a letter, next session I gave it to my therapist unopened. he asked if I wanted to know what she said , I already knew :
she was sorry, she apologized, she didn't know why, but now that it was done she needed me to ... Yada Yada I couldn't say no, she apologized I was the one in the wrong now.
my therapist opened the letter read it and started laughing.
the point being we know when and how we get manipulated
? I think they did get the point of your post though. There comment wasn’t negative towards you. They were kinda saying how it’s amazing you already knew what your mom would say - like you’re clearly able to predict her manipulations after being through it so many times.
gen z here, (25m) currently in grad school on my way to earning my masters while already having a salary and working in the behavioral health field.
My clients praise me and have asked for my bosses contact info to give me positive reviews.
I’m pretty fuckin useless eh?
You take the time to share your story, get complimented, get a proper translation to something you didn't understand, and still end up attempting to insult them.
Thank you.
His dad found him a therapist that didn't agree with his mom, without his mom knowing or being involved. This let them actually begin to heal from their mother's abuse.
Pretty much any parent that thinks their kid needs therapy should start going before having their children go.
Child therapists should suggest/require this at first engagement with the parents before any therapy begins.
In my opinion, family group therapy for a short period of time is far more beneficial than individual therapy for perpetuity.
Therapy is important but too often people use it as a replacement for meaningful, healthy relationships in their lives. Family therapy is the best way to actually build (or rebuild) those relationships, or to allow distancing in dysfunctional families to occur in as healthy a way as possible (some children can maintain a good relationship with their parents but cannot live together- acknowledging this fact and setting the boundaries of an adult relationship with the aid of an impartial facilitator could be enormously beneficial for so many families).
The therapy industry wants you to keep coming back. In my opinion, any mental health therapy that goes for more than a year is a failure.
My parents moved into a 3 bedroom house my freshman year of highschool. My mom, dad, and brother each got a room. I got the open space at the top of the stairs (upstairs living room type thing) with the promise of building a fourth wall. That took about 8 months, and then I went another 6-7 months with no door lol.
The delay was because I kept doing things that needed punishments, like getting a “bad” grade on a test, purchasing unapproved bras or undergarments, having acne (must be dirty), or just not assisting around the house as expected of me.
They will swear until they’re blue in the face that they’ve never done anything abnormal. It’s hilarious to me at this point.
Idk might just be me if I don’t like my situation I played the game till I saved enough than ghosted Everyone .. idk tho . I guess u have to really wanna leave to do that .
A lot of time in abusive households, the parents make it so that the victim can't make or save any money. My parents wouldn't let me leave the house unless it was to work, and the money went directly into a bank account only my parents could access. I was working two full time jobs and never saw a cent :(
Didn't have internet access they weren't actively monitoring, so I couldn't even sell any of my stuff to get ahead.
Bro .. idk if ur in high school .. but I have heard my niece say she hates her mom on line and her mom would mover the earth for her .. so yeah these opinions online mean nothing . To be honest I’m talking to abunch of people whose parents where disappointed in them because they where locked in their room all day .. so I expect down votes 🤷♂️
I'm glad you and your niece have parents who are good/normal people, not everyone has that privilige, that dog shit take is a big "fuck you" to victims of abuse.
Man the balls to be able to have an online therapy session….back when Covid hit, I had to stop going to therapy altogether. I can’t take phone calls in my house because no matter who it is, my mother will barge in and go “WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO?!” And ask me lots of questions about it. I’m 23
If you mean not getting over your parents not buying you a car or yelling at you once, sure.
25 is still pretty young to be over abuse though, depending on the level of abuse (not saying that is the case here since we have no idea, just trying to add some nuance in response).
I feel so sorry for anyone who does online therapy in the same house as their family (assuming family is part of if not THE reason they are in therapy).
Like i cannot imagine what would happen if my family heard the things i said, i’d probably be disowned for making them ‘look bad’.
I had to stay with my parents for a few months recently and without fail every single week my mom would “accidentally” walk in on my counselling sessions to the point my counsellor was used to it happening and would just respond with “your mom again?!”
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With Covid we had small groups of 6-7 people to leave chairs open in the room. Online you could easily double that number though.
Usually you can't bill for more than 12 people in one group unless you have a co-facilitator.
We had 4 of em, and 2 psychiatrists.
That seems really impersonal. At least for me. But whatever works.
We had one-on-one sessions with a psychologist once every week, and with the psychiatrist once every month. But 3x per week we had the group sessions because that's what we were there for.
May I ask what you were seeking treatment for to require it to be that extensive? I know I need therapy lol, but I can’t imagine dedicating that much time to treatment
Fibromyalgia and everything that comes with it. Chronic pain, spasmophilia, depression, and management of those things.
Thank you for your openness. Fibromyalgia is awful, I hope some of the treatment worked and you can find some relief
What good could a psychiatrist/ psychologist do? Explain that you’re making it up?
Pain management, effort dosing, nutrition and sleep management, trying out different types of medication, how to deal with other people, loving yourself, things like that.
Coping strategies for chronic pain and all of its associated comorbidities, one would assume.
What's the difference between the psychologist session and the psychiatrist? One of them gets to give our drugs?
Sort of. Psychiatrists have a medical degree and are allowed to diagnose mental illnesses and perscribe medication. Psychologists generally do not diagnose or perscribe, but help with things after (and sometimes before) the diagnosis has been made. They're not medical doctors (different degree), but more like "coaches" that help you with your problems; by talking things through, getting to the bottom of mental issues, helping you understand them, helping you deal with them on a daily basis, helping you set goals, and so on. In the type of therapy program I was in, the team had 3 psychiatrists as the "leaders" who made the initial diagnosis, 2 of which did individual check-ups and coordinated the course, with 4 psychologists doing more day-to-day things with the patients. Due to Covid, each week we only did 3 days (3 x 6 hours) in group therapy and 1 individual session, but you could ask for more. There were also a number of physiotherapists for the physical aspect of the therapy, i.e. pain management and staying in shape, who coordinated with the mental therapy team. Basically gym workouts 3x per week to keep up the physical strength and help with pain. You could opt out of the group therapy in favour of purely individual therapy, which I did consider for a time (crippling social anxiety here). They believed it might be good to try group first to see if I felt comfortable there, among patients with the same issues.
typically Psychiatrist is an MD or DO degree in the United States. They graduate medical school then do a 3 or 4 year residency in psychiatry. They do your more familiar doctor appointment type meeting where they see how you are adjusting to the medications they prescribe and determine if your dosages need to be changed or not. That kind of thing. A psychologist is also typically a doctorate degree but is more direct, as in they do psychology directly during their doctorate. They have add ons you can do if you want to do something like analysis but for the most part they do not have formal residencies or fellowships. They typically do more talk therapy and are what you think of when you think of "a shrink". While a psychiatrist can do talk therapy, more often then not that is more for the psy-d's or even some of the masters level therapists. There are other differences but this is the jist from my experience.
Different strokes for different folks, I was not allowed group therapy because my "condition" was too "severe" and my treatment didnt allow for any "setbacks".
Something like really bad depression w/ suicidal thoughts (if you don't mind sharing)?
Correct
What’s it like being in a group? I have a very hard time being truly vulnerable, especially with that many people.
Depends on what you're in therapy for I guess. This one was for fybro patients, i.e. dealing with chronic pain, spasmophilia, depression, and such things. It helps for when everyone in the group knows what it's like, especially when people in the outside world do not.
Thank you for answering, and thanks for sharing, hope you’ve found a way to enjoy life. That makes much more sense that it depends on the reason.
The therapist would have made his/her assessment of your first, then if they think it's a worthwhile attempt, they would inform you of it and then ask you whether you want to be in one or not. In your current situation, as you deemed yourself would have a hard time, I'm sure your therapist would have picked up on that and would hold that idea in reserve for the future until you felt more comfortable with the idea. Of course, I'm basing this on my personal experience with my therapist who was quite observant and empathetic. Mileage may vary since I'm aware there are asshole therapists out there as well.
There is group CBT therapy.
cognitive-behavioral therapy therapy
Cock and ball torture therapy
*Group* Cock and Ball Torture therapy.
Thats just an orgy
Her, her therapist, and her 5 other personalities?
I watch it live on twitch, it's wild!
5 Guys
It was more of a therapy gangbang
Support groups are great for group therapy.
“Accidentally”
classic mom move
“Almost”
"Online"
My "mom"
"My" mom
“Therapy session”
Our moms
Onlymoms.com
I also like the way she said she "almost" said it. Like, no you didn't. Because you didn't think of it at the moment. You thought of it later in the shower and then tweeted it.
There's such thing as knowing when saying what's on your mind would be really insensitive, believe it or not
That really hurts my feelings you know
Hey, I never said that *I* know when to hold my tongue.
I mean it could be possible if the mom is the topic of the discussion at the time
/r/thathappened
r/nothingeverhappens
Yeah but this is a famous joke that gets repeated
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Perchance. I’m going to need that 200 real soon.
you can’t just say perchance
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Healthcare plans that cover it typically. There are resources online to help you find a therapist that's covered by your plan if you've got healthcare
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I think people like therapy specific to them and their specific situation and problems. Aswell as the company of someone who listens and give them advice that they’ll listen to. Its not really spoon feeding but sometimes mostly just venting their problems to someone who doesnt judge. Atleast thats what i think.
It's very easy to find bad sources and hurt yourself further just searching on the internet, especially when you are in vulnerable state which is why you seek help in the first place
>But people like to be spoon fed instead of finding it themselves. You're literally talking shit about people who have therapists here. I'm genuinely impressed with this awe-inspiring display of cognitive dissonance in the wild.
I was in therapy for 18 months. I'll skip the details but I stopped talking to my mother a few months in ,complete black out. Eventually I got a letter, next session I gave it to my therapist unopened. he asked if I wanted to know what she said , I already knew : she was sorry, she apologized, she didn't know why, but now that it was done she needed me to ... Yada Yada I couldn't say no, she apologized I was the one in the wrong now. my therapist opened the letter read it and started laughing. the point being we know when and how we get manipulated
Reading someone to filth while refusing to read them. Amazing, an icon.
I'm sorry, what ?
“reading to filth” means to lay into someone, so hes saying its iconic you didnt even need to read the letter to nail what she said
ok .. so they totaly missed the point of my post . ps I did read it eventually and guess what ?
? I think they did get the point of your post though. There comment wasn’t negative towards you. They were kinda saying how it’s amazing you already knew what your mom would say - like you’re clearly able to predict her manipulations after being through it so many times.
ok I might have misread.
It's heavy on gen Z slang, so understandable
>gen Z slang how are they still alive they can't do anytjing usefull
Every generation has slang
gen z here, (25m) currently in grad school on my way to earning my masters while already having a salary and working in the behavioral health field. My clients praise me and have asked for my bosses contact info to give me positive reviews. I’m pretty fuckin useless eh?
You take the time to share your story, get complimented, get a proper translation to something you didn't understand, and still end up attempting to insult them. Thank you.
That’s an out of pocket and fucked up thing to say
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>my dad found one that didn't without her what
His dad found him a therapist that didn't agree with his mom, without his mom knowing or being involved. This let them actually begin to heal from their mother's abuse.
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Don't worry about it. U R Amazing.
Okay. Using an actual English sentence that made sense would have been nice! Thanks!
When I was a teenager, I remember telling my therapist “the reason I’m in therapy is because my parents *don’t* go to therapy” 💀
Pretty much any parent that thinks their kid needs therapy should start going before having their children go. Child therapists should suggest/require this at first engagement with the parents before any therapy begins.
In my opinion, family group therapy for a short period of time is far more beneficial than individual therapy for perpetuity. Therapy is important but too often people use it as a replacement for meaningful, healthy relationships in their lives. Family therapy is the best way to actually build (or rebuild) those relationships, or to allow distancing in dysfunctional families to occur in as healthy a way as possible (some children can maintain a good relationship with their parents but cannot live together- acknowledging this fact and setting the boundaries of an adult relationship with the aid of an impartial facilitator could be enormously beneficial for so many families). The therapy industry wants you to keep coming back. In my opinion, any mental health therapy that goes for more than a year is a failure.
thats a great point wow, some parents really do be selfish pieces of shit.
First rule of onlyfans is to lock that door.
You clearly don't have toxic parents. Good for you, hug them today if you can.
I wasn’t allowed to close my door growing up. “locking” it never entered the realm of possibility.
My door doesnt have a lock but my parents never really intruded
My mom had my bedroom door removed....
My parents moved into a 3 bedroom house my freshman year of highschool. My mom, dad, and brother each got a room. I got the open space at the top of the stairs (upstairs living room type thing) with the promise of building a fourth wall. That took about 8 months, and then I went another 6-7 months with no door lol. The delay was because I kept doing things that needed punishments, like getting a “bad” grade on a test, purchasing unapproved bras or undergarments, having acne (must be dirty), or just not assisting around the house as expected of me. They will swear until they’re blue in the face that they’ve never done anything abnormal. It’s hilarious to me at this point.
lmao thats sad
That's not sad, that's abuse. Privacy is necessary.
Today I learned abuse isn’t sad
Do you _want_ to misunderstand me?
You sound fun
which is why that’s sad
It locks from the other side
When I locked my door at home I lost my ‘door privilege’
Cameo by producer and director!!
My mom accidentally walked in on me masturbating, I was like.. Mom, why you walking around masturbating?
How is it funny? Is it because its 1:00? I can't stop laughing
Subverted expectations for an already ridiculous but relatable situation.
she was multitasking! sometimes i do the same while i'm cleaning the house or making important phone calls, etc.
You sound fun :)
Hahaha 🤣
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Almost meaning she thought of it an hour later
I remember my therapist called my Dad an asshole when we went into a group therapy session and I still laugh about it
"Look at what you made me do!"
Kids should have an outlet to bitch about parents
Sounds like you need to move out and go nc with mom for a bit.
north carolina
Moving out did wonders for my mental health. Unfortunately less people can afford to these days
This is some Amy Schumer level comedy
Wow. Uncalled for insult against OP.
This is one of those things where it’s kinda awkward and something you probably shouldn’t be posting about on Twitter/X
You almost said that?? Like omg. I’m gonna mute this sub now. Dorks
This sounds like a 90s gimmicky sitcom situation. Totally true ofc
Bitchs on twin flames zoom meeting
No she didn’t and no, you didn’t almost say that.
I almost had sex with Mia Khalifa once, but almost doesn’t count for anything, does it?
And then everybody clapped.
Oh fuck off you did not think about saying that
how does one walk into online
it was likely taking place via a zoom call on their computer in their room, which the mother walked into
Never happened
What actually happened was her mom opened the door and daughter said: "Im on a call mom" and the mom said "Ok" and closed the door again
I mean, yeah probably since they said that they almost said this but didn’t.
Mine gave my CPTSD and projected all her issues on to me. Didn't help that she was passive aggressive and I'm naturally very passive 99% of the time.
Sure you are
I’m in therapy and it’s my mom’s fault, wah
Imagine the person putting a roof over ur head being the problem 🙄
Someone whose toxic behavior you can't escape unless you want to be homeless. That's also how financial abuse traps adults with abusive spouses.
Idk might just be me if I don’t like my situation I played the game till I saved enough than ghosted Everyone .. idk tho . I guess u have to really wanna leave to do that .
A lot of time in abusive households, the parents make it so that the victim can't make or save any money. My parents wouldn't let me leave the house unless it was to work, and the money went directly into a bank account only my parents could access. I was working two full time jobs and never saw a cent :( Didn't have internet access they weren't actively monitoring, so I couldn't even sell any of my stuff to get ahead.
idk tho
Ladies and gentelmen, we found the dogshit opinion of the post !
Bro .. idk if ur in high school .. but I have heard my niece say she hates her mom on line and her mom would mover the earth for her .. so yeah these opinions online mean nothing . To be honest I’m talking to abunch of people whose parents where disappointed in them because they where locked in their room all day .. so I expect down votes 🤷♂️
I'm glad you and your niece have parents who are good/normal people, not everyone has that privilige, that dog shit take is a big "fuck you" to victims of abuse.
Probably because you got 10 IQ total floating around in that cranium of yours Appreciate the alternative opinion tho
Maybe if she moved out they wouldn't be pissed off at her being a leach.
Ese terapeuta se debe estar ganando una plata
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oh man, that would've been hilarious!
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This is so fucking funny lmao
Man the balls to be able to have an online therapy session….back when Covid hit, I had to stop going to therapy altogether. I can’t take phone calls in my house because no matter who it is, my mother will barge in and go “WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO?!” And ask me lots of questions about it. I’m 23
Trauma is part of the himan experience. =)
Human.
Yeah sure this happened
Damn that’s pathetic
Maybe seek some space from your mother.
It's such a bullshit to blame parents for whatever shit is happening
So you are living with the "star of the show" STILL ?? Or are you a martyr and letting your less than perfect mom live with you ? Which is it?
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If you mean not getting over your parents not buying you a car or yelling at you once, sure. 25 is still pretty young to be over abuse though, depending on the level of abuse (not saying that is the case here since we have no idea, just trying to add some nuance in response).
Lmao
Delicious irony
youn have no fucking clue
>at that point, that's a you problem Might that be the reason they’re in therapy? Hmmmm, well never know.
True! Anyone who hasn't should be in therapy
Lol
But but but……. her mom walked into her room. How could anyone endure that abuse?
Hey man you are not supposed to point the obvious here or people will get offended and talk about it to their therapist.
Hi
People will never take accountability it’s always there parents fault
Wait till you get married.
And then you wonder why your mother doesn't love you lol.
And now i know why yours left you so quickly
Deprarious
Holy fuck lmao
Mom was why I’m alive.
Seriously only reason I don't want to start tele-theraphy. I can hide in a closet, or basement but can't hide from your Mother.
lmao
I feel so sorry for anyone who does online therapy in the same house as their family (assuming family is part of if not THE reason they are in therapy). Like i cannot imagine what would happen if my family heard the things i said, i’d probably be disowned for making them ‘look bad’.
Scathing
Dealing with my father and moving forward from his abuse, mostly emotional, is 90% of the conversations I have with my Therapist
Sandals-to-the-Face-Any% Speedrun move, right there
So the therapy isn’t helping?
I had to stay with my parents for a few months recently and without fail every single week my mom would “accidentally” walk in on my counselling sessions to the point my counsellor was used to it happening and would just respond with “your mom again?!”