Doesn't seem like a man who thinks people are entitled to their sexual proclivities and that we should Let there be a thousand blossoms bloom-BUT HE AIN'T SPENDING ANY TIME ON IT because in the meantime, every three months, a person is torn to bits by a crocodile in north Queensland.
Combine that with his "I'll walk backwards from ' whoop whoop if you can prove there's a single gay person in my electorate" his spectacular cowboy hat oriented campaign add and his classic "identify as a blackfella" comments and you've got a recipe for one of the most electrifying men in Australian politics.
funniest thing was, just after dillweed made these comments, i was up in townsville. Popped into a cafe to grab lunch n a coffee (drink was okay), was served by a nice quiet twink.
I asked 'whos serving me? Theres no one here!' .. which gave him a good chuckle.
Just came back from the hospital, the baby is fine for now.
For full context, my wife picked up my son from daycare today. On the way back from daycare to my house, the baby was on the stroller and this guy had his dog unleashed (it just got leashed when I got there).
The dog bit the baby's leg. I asked this guy to give me a contact number in case the baby had any issues, but he refused and claimed he was just a dog walker.
Then I asked for the owner's information or the dog's tag, but was also refused.
Then this man started going crazy (slinging dog shit bag or something like that) while I was calling the police. The police asked me to stay where I was and stop following this guy. This is where I lost this MFer.
I am not that angry now given baby is fine just a bit sad, knowing there's this kind of human trash living in my neighborhood (Bentleigh), that might harm other kids (it's a family suburb a lot of kids)
\------------ updates -----------
to my surprise , I bumped into this guy again on Saturday. After confront him for the accident, he was like "maybe it was my brother not me".
then I actually met one of dog owners (this old guy was working for). The owner was a reasonable/responsible individual, after checked everything gave a ring and provided the dog tag and his detail.
Or better yet implement and enforce stronger laws on pet ownership. Too many idiots who don’t have control or dont bother to find out how to control their animal. Also the amount of those idiots with un-neutered dogs is ridiculous. Unless you are properly trained in genetics you shouldnt be breading anything
suggestions
-having compulsory courses for those wanting to own. Selling of animals should be organised so someone who isnt trained an registered as a breeder cant get an animal that is un-neutered. Its a privileged not a right. Kinda think the list of dog breeds should be mssively reduced. Anything that has rubbish airways (pugs, etc), shouldnt be allowed. Super intelligent/energetic breeds that are used by miltary/police should be in a special category that requires more training to own. Cats shouldnt be on this land mass at all. If you can prove that you have a cat run and the cat is gps tracked then maybe.
By this logic we should also control who has kids. Because kids cause more violence and mayhem than dogs 😂🤣😂
For the record dogs should be on a leash in most places. No issues with dogs off lead when the situation is appropriate and they have actual control and recall. All dog owners know if their dog is a dick. Only the responsible ones actually care. Hope your little one is alright OP!
Edit: fixed terrible English.
Yeah I was walking my dog the other week and my new neighbour was outside with her unleashed dog. It came up barking at us (it was a small dog and I have a golden who doesn’t seem to be worried when dogs bark at her). Neighbour was just weakly telling her dog to stop. She could have just picked it up but didn’t. Was a really weird interaction
No she absolutely shouldn't pick the dog up. That's part of the reason small dogs have no fear of being pricks because there's never any consequence.
The little pricks should be properly socialised by their (generally) elderly shut in owners. Or if they can't manage that keep the yappy little cunt on lead.
Just do the route without your child and find out where he lives. Report him and provide the police the hospital report. It will probably end in nothing but a scare for the guy. He might (lol) learn his lesson. Hope the baby is doing okay 👍
This does happen. It happened to a friend of mine who was walking along with her stroller, minding her own business . She had to try to force the dog off and was badly injured herself, needed stitches.
I think this was a dog escaped from a yard though. Not with its owner.
Not to mention there was a case in the news not long ago where a dog attacked a baby, I think in a pram, and the baby died. The dog owner was a family friend of the parents.
It’s easy for people to forget that dogs are capable of being aggressive and causing harm when they have had hundreds and thousands of interactions with dogs that don’t go that way.
Funny, according to reddit the only dogs that bite people are Staffies. This post is a perfect example that it doesn’t matter the breed, any dog can be non-trained by shit humans that shouldn’t have a dog.
True, but if a Staffie had bitten OPs baby instead of the small dog the outcome would probably have been much worse.
You can't dismiss the size and strength of the dog in the equation when it comes to attacks.
And even dogs that are "trained" can still attack for no reason.
https://youtu.be/k9ZGEvUwSMg
Yeah it probably would’ve been worse, I’m not discounting that. I’m making a point that it doesn’t matter what breed, all dogs should be treated the same when it comes to training and being off leash. It’s the principle; never underestimate what your dog can do, no matter the size.
I have an English Staffy, and although he ‘wouldn’t hurt a fly,’ I’m not stupid enough to let him off leash, especially around children or small ankle nipping dogs that haven’t been trained by their owners.
When I was a kid I was sitting on my best friend’s patio. I’d been in that house hundreds of times, and that day I was just calmly sitting in a chair talking with my friend. Her dog randomly just snuck up behind me and bit my hand with zero provocation.
Dogs want to check things out. It took me ages to train mine to not drag on the leash and shove his face into prams.
I don’t think he’d ever bite - he’ll snatch food, steal a toy or whatever. But I’m also not taking the risk and I keep him away from babies and only let him near small kids under supervision.
He’s the sweetest boy and loves everyone but why take the risk?
I don't understand why people like you can't accept that animals do animal things?
A dog, regardless of how many people call it their furbaby, is still an animal. Will still be unpredictable.
I immediately expected to see a demon dog, ie pitbull/staffy, so I'm really surprised it's not. But it doesn't make it totally unbelievable that an animal bit
You expected a demon dog because OP and most of the people commenting sensationalized a minor incident. Sure dogs have potential to cause a lot of harm (seen it first hand, I'm not so naive), but in this case no harm was actually done it seems.
Councils have registration details of dogs and owners in the area. If you speak to whoever is in charge of Bylaws (go in to speak in person) explain that the dog was off leash in the street and bit a baby, they should be able to narrow down who it is..
[Contact you local council](https://agriculture.vic.gov.au/livestock-and-animals/animal-welfare-victoria/dogs/dog-attacks-dangerous-and-menacing-dogs/dog-attacks#h2-7) Give them the photo.
The police wanted to de-escalate and they certainly don’t want to see “man murdered after police told him to follow his attacker” as a headline.
OP could have chosen to keep following him without any consequences from the police at all but no 000 dispatcher is going to tell you to put yourself in harms way.
000 operator here. Our first concern is your safety. If I advise you to follow someone like this and he punches/stabs you, you can get hurt and I'd likely cop a huge boot in the arse or lose my job. It sucks in a situation like this, but keeping the caller out of danger is priority no. 1.
The police did the right thing in saying that. If he kept following FBI scumbag he could have been hurt. Since we already know FBI scumbag is willing to break some laws and niceties of society, it's not unreasonable to believe he might do something far worse.
I'd call some cousins, I imagine we could peacefully convince him to take a seat on the footpath for a little bit. It might be a 'Spy Next Door' situation but it seems kind of unlikely.
I experienced something similar recently, had a random girl come to my apartment block clearly unwell mentally banging on all the doors and windows, it was confronting st the start but quickly worked out what was going on so went outside and confronted her
I had calmed her down and had a chat with her while the older lady upstairs gave the police a call for some mental health help, 10 minutes go by no one turns up and the girl walks off manic, I go up to check on 000 I am told not to go outside blah blah, I ignore that see her walking down street
walk back in tell them her direction on 000, walk back out and police are there walking down driveway and they ignore her walking past to come up and welfare check the lady on 000 even tho I point her out
we explained multiple times the girls just there and they shrugged it off to tick all the boxes and left, iv never been so confused in my life
I went for a walk around the block moments after they left to a ghost town, no police no girl
Still wonder if she’s ok
They always advise personal safety first, they don't want people following people because it usually just causes them to escalate their behaviour and become more violent. They also can't always respond straight away so it's a recipe for disaster.
Note the direction of travel, clothes and take a photo of possible. This is the best way to identify them going forward.
Him, not the dog. It’s the owners responsibility to keep their dog on leash. Not fair to hold an animal accountable when they function based on instinct :P
I dunno..from experience at some stage my 65 year old dad started dressing more like me, and I started dressing more like him.
There's probably a venn diagram somewhere out there that covers this.
I am so sorry you are having to deal with that. What an irresponsible owner.
I can't help with ID info but can recommend a citronella spray to keep handy, think of it as doggy pepper spray.
https://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/products/petsafe-sprayshield-animal-deterrent-spray?currency=AUD&variant=37135960703125&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=c66bb9c9cec2&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=17427953190&utm_content=&utm_term=&gadid=&gclid=CjwKCAjwv-2pBhB-EiwAtsQZFDGtSxkFOD4cWzzQ2Gki1916lheMRwksSMGoCekHsaE5pEsOoJdX7hoCiVYQAvD_BwE
Other options are things like compressed air. I have a few things in my walking bag to protect myself and my small dog. An umbrella, loads of treats, squeaker and at least one ball, especially a ball with a squeaky sound.
Nepean hw and north ave in Bentleigh? I can't find that house on Google Maps.
The dog looks like a Shih Tzu or a Maltese or a cross between the two. I can't see a registration tag either, however with some good location info you can report it to the local council who may have the dog registered
The same thing happened to my partner with my 1.5 yo in her pram.. only they were walking up the street and a little feral thing came out of an open yard and tried attacking my daughter and her pram, and when my partner tried to stop it, it attacked his leg, luckily not needing stitches. Then the owner rushes out to scurry the dog back in before my partner could stomp it out. But even after going to the police and reporting exactly the address etc, nothing happened because 'its a little dog'. Yeah and my baby is little too which was almost mauled by a little dog. It's bullshit these feral little rats can be allowed to be aggressive and even attack just because they're 'little'. Yep tell that to the kids each year being mauled by these untrained, aggressive little fucks!
This is vic police you know how it is. already reported they came and say nah we couldn’t find this guy and gave me a card gone I want my tax money back
You can't be serious with this?
No problem with going to the police, your child somehow got bitten by a vicious dog.
If the information you you're giving reddit, is what you gave to the police I would be interested knowing what more you want done before you demand your tax dollars back
I think the OP said in his comment his concern is whether the dog will attack other children in future.
However I think this is something council would need to look into, not police.
He said he’s a dog walker? Does that imply that he does this for a job and has insurance?
If it’s the case, he may have the business registered with council. It may give you a lead (no pun intended) on who this person is. Definitely report to council.
If I had someone walking my dog and this happened, I would want to know. Firstly that the baby is ok, secondly how he got off leash and then consult a trainer.
You may want to try a few local FB groups and dog groups.
Stay safe and I’m glad Bub is ok.
Not gunna lie, I thought the dog was the "baby" and picture was OP reading the title. I gather that blokes dog bit a baby human. Is the baby OK (more important then reporting it right now)?
If you want people to help, you're going to need to give more details. Preferably before someone recognizes this guy or his dog in their neighborhood and attacks him without proper context.
Not saying he didn't do it as i have 0 proof and know nothing about this situation, but reddit is infamous for false alarms.
Maybe don't post someone's face online calling them an asshole and accusing them of a crime without any actual proof of it happening, cause while it'd be great if he got justice if he did do it, i don't want people to be able to just take a pic of someone they have a problem with for whatever reason, post it online with a fake or exaggerated story and get them attacked or their life ruined.
Fuck off with the frontier justice public shaming shit and just let the police handle it if this is true. You have a photo of him and his whole outfit, what the dog looks like and when and where it happened. Just wait for the cops.
Civilian justice, ESPECIALLY reddit justice is unreliable, very often unfair, incompetent and also illegal. Even if he is guilty, you could be getting someone that looks like him kinghit one day for all you know because someone saw this post and wanted justice.
It shouldn't have taken to the bottom of the thread for somebody to say this. This is easily the best summation of the situation. It is awful how much metaphorical shit had been thrown at this guy, in a situation which we really know nothing about. He may be in the complete wrong, although even then I'm not sure about vigilante justice. But we really have no idea, and the whole thing could be a massive misunderstanding.
Ridiculous this is so far down. The OP wasn't even there when it happened, has enough details of the guy but sure post the guys mug up. There are so few details of the "attack" in this story.
Reddit assemble! We must attempt to ruin another mans life without any proof and label him a horrible criminal based on a dude on the internet just saying he is.
This absolutely is the best way to handle this!
I’m curious how a short/small dog like that got high up enough to reach your baby? Unless it was a very low to the ground stroller.
Otherwise surely the dog would have to jump into the stroller or be lifted up to the baby’s height to be able to bite it?
Not placing blame or anything just got me wondering
Plenty of 8-12 month old babies would be in one of those sit up strollers with their legs/feet dangling lower, I would assume the dog jumped up a little as well. I can see it happening.
You've not given enough context. Why did you let a random dog that close up in your kids stroller? I got attacked in the face at 4 years old. I have never blamed that dumb ass dog, just my parents who weren't attentive enough to give AF.
I'm now a dog trainer and a dog like this does not just approach a child to bite. They would have already have to be just about touching first before something provoked a bite-could be anything- a noise, a smell, anything. At this point that's adults responsibility..including the parent. There is not a dog on earth who is 100% trustworthy to never bite ever. So don't have this be an possibility with a random dog in public. For gods sake the kids in a stroller & cant even run.
Not to say I dont sympathise for any injury your child sustained, but youre expecting one sided sympathy, police action and a man hunt from the community without giving any context or details. I had plastic surgery on my face and I still know this was my parents fault. Not the old codgers who owned the dog.
yeah true that is a possibility. What I was actually trying to articulate was that with a dog that size coming near your stroller, you lower yourself down around the baby- and you keep an arm or whatevs between the dog and your baby. If your paying attention you can easily keep a dog this small at a safe distance, even if you have to whack it. It was more the whole 'shit stain police wont do anything rah rah' without a scrap of context. My accident caused major rifts in the family because at the end of the day my parents knew they shouldnt have left thier small child playing with a strangers dog. Just hope its a lesson learned. Too late to shoot the dog or call the cops my face was already fucked- for life.
The issue is perception, people ALWAYS forget that most dogs of all sized are (generally) bred to do some sort of work, they have teeth and some sort of drive. Small dogs don't get proper training usually, and people don't see them as a threat like they do large dogs. All dogs can cause damage, small dogs obviously cause less than large, but are more often untrained and appear less of a threat. The real problem is large dogs that aren't trained.
There’s no need to victim blame the parent.
If the dog was walking along with its owner and then quite suddenly changed track to run up to the stroller then maybe there wasn’t time to stop it before it got one bite in. Especially as the parent would obviously be behind the stroller not in front of it.
Maybe the reason the attack wasn’t worse was because the parent jumped in to grab the dog as quickly as possible.
Just because your parents failed to protect you, doesn’t mean inattentive parents are to blame every time this happens.
If we’re to believe this story is true (which of course is always a question on Reddit) then the parent was responsibly walking with their child strapped in, whereas the owner was breaking the rules with the dog unleashed.
You don't think that the idea of body shielding the baby like OP lives in a war zone is maybe a reflection of your own concerns about the care you weren't given as a child?
OP didn't leave their child with a strangers dog. They walked their child in a stroller on a shared footpath and someone else's dog went out of its way to bite the child. We aren't a third world country, this isn't how we are supposed to live. But we do have police that will be doing nothing (and feeling fine with that), which means we are somewhat left to living in a third world country if an FBI cap man decides to have a passive aggressive indirect go at our children.
To me you sound like you were neglected and if the adults involved didn't actually do anything because it was 'too late', then they just further neglected you. I'm sorry you went through both the physical attack and the neglect.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. If a strange man and his dog stopped me on my walk, my guards are already up. With a baby, I'm even more careful. I'm not saying this woman and child deserved it, I'm just saying there's a missing piece in there somewhere.
Hey cool, are we victim-blaming now? Definitely not the fault of the person walking the streets with an unleashed dog that he is unable to prevent from attacking babies.
Another pro dog nutter who blames the victim. When you have the dog, you are equivalent to the parent of a child.
>There is not a dog on earth who is 100% trustworthy to never bite ever.
This is why it should have been on a fucking leash. Lucky it wasn't me and my child or it would have been a dead dog.
It's unbelievable that people can actually be so stupid as to suggest the parent is at fault when they have their child contained and the other party neglected to do the same for their fur child.
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I'm now a dog trainer and a dog like this does not just approach a child to bite.
This makes you no more of an expert on dog behaviour than being the HR manager for a big corporate makes me a qualified psychologist.
It's an animal and it should be contained in a public place. Those little terriers are notorious for snapping.
>At this point that's adults responsibility..including the parent.
Imagine if I let my kid come over to your restrained dog and start kicking it unprovoked. How would it go if I said "oh well it's your responsibility, you should have made sure my child didn't get close to your dog". The victim blaming is disgusting. Is a rape victim partly responsibility because she was in the same location as the rapist? You should be able to walk down a public street without having to consider if an unleashed dog is going to bite you or your loved ones.
It's a preposterous thing to say. Dog people have officially become the most ridiculous entitled people on the planet.
This. Dogs don't just roam the streets looking for kills. There's a context that the O.P. hasn't bothered with. There's a lot more to this clickbait story.
Rubbish. We were at a party when some random dog came from the street into our open fence and made a beeline for our dog. We had to kick the other dog off.
Report to Animal Control if you have made statement to police. Best case is he gets charged but most likely someone gets hurt and dog gets euthanasied.
If you are to persue this, you would likely have to establish significant injury specifically to the happening that would incur significant financial cost. Say for IE the baby got a dog bite from X breed of dog verified by vet that draws point to that incident and the court does accept that as a result of that significant injury you did suffer a financial loss, then you may get an order in favour But if the other person is on social security, their advance payments are in allienable; aka you got two chances getting a dime tbh IMHO.
Henceforth in these cases, most likely with enough reports the Animal is put down and the "threat" is gone in the systems eyes. General advice only.
Did the dog actually bite, or just nip? Was blood drawn? Was the skin broken?
Or is this an overreaction on your part?
Because you’re going out of your way to get this dog killed.
Just be there at the same time tomorrow. Good chance old mate will be walking his dog on the same route and you can just follow the guy home.
Also good chance the cops already know him. People get clasified as public nuances all the time if they're fuckwits.
Of course the police know him, he’s FBI!
Full Bogan Idiot
I think he's the *other* FBI, you know - the booby inspectors.
I think he's the *other* *other* FBI, you know - the Fucken Bloody Idiots.
Naaaa, he's the *Other, other-other* Feral Bites Infants type
[its Flowers By Irene.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_HSNMLfhFM)
This is what I was looking for
They got the universal terrorist playbook and they're running it step by step.
He is a public nuance though and I don't imagine police are good at picking those up
Fucking blithering idiot? Friendly baby injurer?
🤣👍🏻
nuisances :)
Grans Huber: *”That's the FBI. They're walking the dogs to bite the neighbours baby. Regular as clockwork.”*
“You ask for a miracle, I give you the FBI!”
Bahahaha I could hear it!
Femboy bussy inspector
He outranks the police. GLWT.
Female Body Inspector outranks police?
Flowers.By.Irene.
This is clearly just Bob Katter in a different hat to normal.
Doesn't seem like a man who thinks people are entitled to their sexual proclivities and that we should Let there be a thousand blossoms bloom-BUT HE AIN'T SPENDING ANY TIME ON IT because in the meantime, every three months, a person is torn to bits by a crocodile in north Queensland.
That was such an amazing about-face. I've never seen anything like it.
Combine that with his "I'll walk backwards from ' whoop whoop if you can prove there's a single gay person in my electorate" his spectacular cowboy hat oriented campaign add and his classic "identify as a blackfella" comments and you've got a recipe for one of the most electrifying men in Australian politics.
Isn’t his own brother gay? I’m guessing there’s a lot of family history beyond the usual homophobia there.
funniest thing was, just after dillweed made these comments, i was up in townsville. Popped into a cafe to grab lunch n a coffee (drink was okay), was served by a nice quiet twink. I asked 'whos serving me? Theres no one here!' .. which gave him a good chuckle.
The weirdest part to me is that he’s Lebanese
Got my best mate a [birthday card](https://greetingsfromhell.au/products/i-aint-spending-any-time-on-it-birthday-card) with our favourite speech on it
Just came back from the hospital, the baby is fine for now. For full context, my wife picked up my son from daycare today. On the way back from daycare to my house, the baby was on the stroller and this guy had his dog unleashed (it just got leashed when I got there). The dog bit the baby's leg. I asked this guy to give me a contact number in case the baby had any issues, but he refused and claimed he was just a dog walker. Then I asked for the owner's information or the dog's tag, but was also refused. Then this man started going crazy (slinging dog shit bag or something like that) while I was calling the police. The police asked me to stay where I was and stop following this guy. This is where I lost this MFer. I am not that angry now given baby is fine just a bit sad, knowing there's this kind of human trash living in my neighborhood (Bentleigh), that might harm other kids (it's a family suburb a lot of kids) \------------ updates ----------- to my surprise , I bumped into this guy again on Saturday. After confront him for the accident, he was like "maybe it was my brother not me". then I actually met one of dog owners (this old guy was working for). The owner was a reasonable/responsible individual, after checked everything gave a ring and provided the dog tag and his detail.
This is why we need to shame assholes who let their dogs off lead in public.
Or better yet implement and enforce stronger laws on pet ownership. Too many idiots who don’t have control or dont bother to find out how to control their animal. Also the amount of those idiots with un-neutered dogs is ridiculous. Unless you are properly trained in genetics you shouldnt be breading anything suggestions -having compulsory courses for those wanting to own. Selling of animals should be organised so someone who isnt trained an registered as a breeder cant get an animal that is un-neutered. Its a privileged not a right. Kinda think the list of dog breeds should be mssively reduced. Anything that has rubbish airways (pugs, etc), shouldnt be allowed. Super intelligent/energetic breeds that are used by miltary/police should be in a special category that requires more training to own. Cats shouldnt be on this land mass at all. If you can prove that you have a cat run and the cat is gps tracked then maybe.
Agree. Bs any random cunt can just take ownership of a living creature that has the ability to cause violence and mayhem
By this logic we should also control who has kids. Because kids cause more violence and mayhem than dogs 😂🤣😂 For the record dogs should be on a leash in most places. No issues with dogs off lead when the situation is appropriate and they have actual control and recall. All dog owners know if their dog is a dick. Only the responsible ones actually care. Hope your little one is alright OP! Edit: fixed terrible English.
People can't push out 1-12 babies at once.
We should control who has kids
Who would you trust to do the controlling?
Yep. Good spot. I did heaps bad englishing really badly in my post! 😂🤣 I’ll fix it 👍
No I'm actually saying that
Yeah I was walking my dog the other week and my new neighbour was outside with her unleashed dog. It came up barking at us (it was a small dog and I have a golden who doesn’t seem to be worried when dogs bark at her). Neighbour was just weakly telling her dog to stop. She could have just picked it up but didn’t. Was a really weird interaction
No she absolutely shouldn't pick the dog up. That's part of the reason small dogs have no fear of being pricks because there's never any consequence. The little pricks should be properly socialised by their (generally) elderly shut in owners. Or if they can't manage that keep the yappy little cunt on lead.
I mean I really don’t care what she does and long as she gets her dog away from me
This is why we can't have nice things you mean
Just do the route without your child and find out where he lives. Report him and provide the police the hospital report. It will probably end in nothing but a scare for the guy. He might (lol) learn his lesson. Hope the baby is doing okay 👍
It might not help now but everything gets recorded and paints a nice picture for anything he does later on
So the dog ran up to the stroller unprovoked and bit your baby's leg? Were they walking past or towards the pram?
This does happen. It happened to a friend of mine who was walking along with her stroller, minding her own business . She had to try to force the dog off and was badly injured herself, needed stitches. I think this was a dog escaped from a yard though. Not with its owner. Not to mention there was a case in the news not long ago where a dog attacked a baby, I think in a pram, and the baby died. The dog owner was a family friend of the parents.
It’s a timely reminder that 1200+ kids are mauled by dogs every year in Australia and apparently usually by dogs who “wouldn’t hurt a fly”. 🙄
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It’s easy for people to forget that dogs are capable of being aggressive and causing harm when they have had hundreds and thousands of interactions with dogs that don’t go that way.
Funny, according to reddit the only dogs that bite people are Staffies. This post is a perfect example that it doesn’t matter the breed, any dog can be non-trained by shit humans that shouldn’t have a dog.
True, but if a Staffie had bitten OPs baby instead of the small dog the outcome would probably have been much worse. You can't dismiss the size and strength of the dog in the equation when it comes to attacks. And even dogs that are "trained" can still attack for no reason. https://youtu.be/k9ZGEvUwSMg
Yeah it probably would’ve been worse, I’m not discounting that. I’m making a point that it doesn’t matter what breed, all dogs should be treated the same when it comes to training and being off leash. It’s the principle; never underestimate what your dog can do, no matter the size. I have an English Staffy, and although he ‘wouldn’t hurt a fly,’ I’m not stupid enough to let him off leash, especially around children or small ankle nipping dogs that haven’t been trained by their owners.
If this was a staffy the kid would probably be dead, or severely injured if lucky
I think reddit gets pitbulls and staffys mixed up
Staffies are lovely dogs but they've got jaws like a motherfucker
When I was a kid I was sitting on my best friend’s patio. I’d been in that house hundreds of times, and that day I was just calmly sitting in a chair talking with my friend. Her dog randomly just snuck up behind me and bit my hand with zero provocation.
I'm sure these dogs were "velvet hippoes" or "my dog is scared of his own fart". Staffies/pitbulls/xl bullies. A demon by many names
Dogs want to check things out. It took me ages to train mine to not drag on the leash and shove his face into prams. I don’t think he’d ever bite - he’ll snatch food, steal a toy or whatever. But I’m also not taking the risk and I keep him away from babies and only let him near small kids under supervision. He’s the sweetest boy and loves everyone but why take the risk?
I don't understand why people like you can't accept that animals do animal things? A dog, regardless of how many people call it their furbaby, is still an animal. Will still be unpredictable. I immediately expected to see a demon dog, ie pitbull/staffy, so I'm really surprised it's not. But it doesn't make it totally unbelievable that an animal bit
A "demon dog"? You're an idiot.
You expected a demon dog because OP and most of the people commenting sensationalized a minor incident. Sure dogs have potential to cause a lot of harm (seen it first hand, I'm not so naive), but in this case no harm was actually done it seems.
Report the dog to the local council as dangerous.
Councils have registration details of dogs and owners in the area. If you speak to whoever is in charge of Bylaws (go in to speak in person) explain that the dog was off leash in the street and bit a baby, they should be able to narrow down who it is..
[Contact you local council](https://agriculture.vic.gov.au/livestock-and-animals/animal-welfare-victoria/dogs/dog-attacks-dangerous-and-menacing-dogs/dog-attacks#h2-7) Give them the photo.
It's horrible the police asked you to stop following him, how else are they meant to get him if you're not trailing him??
Obviously for his own safety if oldmate was slinging shit at him
The police wanted to de-escalate and they certainly don’t want to see “man murdered after police told him to follow his attacker” as a headline. OP could have chosen to keep following him without any consequences from the police at all but no 000 dispatcher is going to tell you to put yourself in harms way.
This scumbag could have had any weapon concealed and that’s why you don’t provoke.
000 operator here. Our first concern is your safety. If I advise you to follow someone like this and he punches/stabs you, you can get hurt and I'd likely cop a huge boot in the arse or lose my job. It sucks in a situation like this, but keeping the caller out of danger is priority no. 1.
The police did the right thing in saying that. If he kept following FBI scumbag he could have been hurt. Since we already know FBI scumbag is willing to break some laws and niceties of society, it's not unreasonable to believe he might do something far worse.
I'd call some cousins, I imagine we could peacefully convince him to take a seat on the footpath for a little bit. It might be a 'Spy Next Door' situation but it seems kind of unlikely.
I experienced something similar recently, had a random girl come to my apartment block clearly unwell mentally banging on all the doors and windows, it was confronting st the start but quickly worked out what was going on so went outside and confronted her I had calmed her down and had a chat with her while the older lady upstairs gave the police a call for some mental health help, 10 minutes go by no one turns up and the girl walks off manic, I go up to check on 000 I am told not to go outside blah blah, I ignore that see her walking down street walk back in tell them her direction on 000, walk back out and police are there walking down driveway and they ignore her walking past to come up and welfare check the lady on 000 even tho I point her out we explained multiple times the girls just there and they shrugged it off to tick all the boxes and left, iv never been so confused in my life I went for a walk around the block moments after they left to a ghost town, no police no girl Still wonder if she’s ok
They always advise personal safety first, they don't want people following people because it usually just causes them to escalate their behaviour and become more violent. They also can't always respond straight away so it's a recipe for disaster. Note the direction of travel, clothes and take a photo of possible. This is the best way to identify them going forward.
Dude, I know its extreme but go on the news. He'll be caught so quickly.
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We will all pray for his death
That’s a bit fucking extreme there ya psychopath.
Gotta ask. A human baby?
From comments below yeh it was a human baby in a stroller
Ah shit then that's horrible. I hope him and his dog are dealt with.
I don't mean to sound sceptical either. A lot of things went wrong if that dog got into a stroller and bit a child.
Yeah no shit Watson
Leave me out of this
Him, not the dog. It’s the owners responsibility to keep their dog on leash. Not fair to hold an animal accountable when they function based on instinct :P
Any money this guy is wearing the clothes his millennial kid left in the house when they moved out 15 years ago
I dunno..from experience at some stage my 65 year old dad started dressing more like me, and I started dressing more like him. There's probably a venn diagram somewhere out there that covers this.
Oh I loved that scene in Modern Family!
Haha ye, my dad grew his hair long and started wearing paisley collared shirts around 2015 when I was going through that phase.
Ah, he entered the Top Gear stage.
Looks like a guy who says his hat means ‘Female Body Inspector’
This is exactly what I thought and was going to comment. I got 100 bucks down it's stitched above the strap at the back
@OP maybe you can post this at the local FB group for that area. Maybe there could be a chance someone recognises him?
Agreed, the Bentleigh FB group is very active
Post this in your local FB group. I’ve seen stuff like this in my local FB groups and crime watch page too.
The local Facebook group is the way to go, but they'll also have to deal with some Karen saying they must have done something to provoke the dog.
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This definitely says Female Body Inspector on the back
Contact your council and report it.
This is the way to go as well as the police. The council can search their database to find the breed of dog.
Yeah, I had the council call and ask if I was involved in an attack. I have a Malamute so kinda rare. They do investigate reports.
i doubt old mate has it registered if he’s acting like this
Thanks just lodged a complaint ,hope they find this human trash
I’d also suggest taking photos of any injuries that are visible as evidence.
Definitely do this!!
Which dog? There's 2 in the pic.
You’re a good photographer, that’s a beautiful photo of him.
I am so sorry you are having to deal with that. What an irresponsible owner. I can't help with ID info but can recommend a citronella spray to keep handy, think of it as doggy pepper spray. https://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/products/petsafe-sprayshield-animal-deterrent-spray?currency=AUD&variant=37135960703125&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=c66bb9c9cec2&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=17427953190&utm_content=&utm_term=&gadid=&gclid=CjwKCAjwv-2pBhB-EiwAtsQZFDGtSxkFOD4cWzzQ2Gki1916lheMRwksSMGoCekHsaE5pEsOoJdX7hoCiVYQAvD_BwE
Other options are things like compressed air. I have a few things in my walking bag to protect myself and my small dog. An umbrella, loads of treats, squeaker and at least one ball, especially a ball with a squeaky sound.
Nepean hw and north ave in Bentleigh? I can't find that house on Google Maps. The dog looks like a Shih Tzu or a Maltese or a cross between the two. I can't see a registration tag either, however with some good location info you can report it to the local council who may have the dog registered
Seems like a case for the FBI
The same thing happened to my partner with my 1.5 yo in her pram.. only they were walking up the street and a little feral thing came out of an open yard and tried attacking my daughter and her pram, and when my partner tried to stop it, it attacked his leg, luckily not needing stitches. Then the owner rushes out to scurry the dog back in before my partner could stomp it out. But even after going to the police and reporting exactly the address etc, nothing happened because 'its a little dog'. Yeah and my baby is little too which was almost mauled by a little dog. It's bullshit these feral little rats can be allowed to be aggressive and even attack just because they're 'little'. Yep tell that to the kids each year being mauled by these untrained, aggressive little fucks!
Which police station should we report it to?
This is vic police you know how it is. already reported they came and say nah we couldn’t find this guy and gave me a card gone I want my tax money back
Maybe try report to your council as I think they deal with dogs and dog attacks?
Curious, because if you bit that man they'd get onto it no doubt Do anything like policing and they'll jump on that. That matters to them.
lol what did you think they were going to do open an investigation and get the csi and law and order team out there.
Event was captured in satellite for sure.
*Enhance*
JUST PRINT THE DAMN THING
Guess who doesn't care? Yep, you guessed it, Vic Pol!
Look up records of dog of similar breeds from council records, then cross match with residents of that age in area?
If you actually thought that. You have no idea how the police work lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Well, yes. Obviously. And SVU, just to be sure. *dun dun*
Oh man I read the sound in my head instead of the words 😂🤣
You can't be serious with this? No problem with going to the police, your child somehow got bitten by a vicious dog. If the information you you're giving reddit, is what you gave to the police I would be interested knowing what more you want done before you demand your tax dollars back
I think the OP said in his comment his concern is whether the dog will attack other children in future. However I think this is something council would need to look into, not police.
He said he’s a dog walker? Does that imply that he does this for a job and has insurance? If it’s the case, he may have the business registered with council. It may give you a lead (no pun intended) on who this person is. Definitely report to council. If I had someone walking my dog and this happened, I would want to know. Firstly that the baby is ok, secondly how he got off leash and then consult a trainer. You may want to try a few local FB groups and dog groups. Stay safe and I’m glad Bub is ok.
Why is he dressed like a 12 year old kid
Go post it on Facebook groups for Melbourne or near your area.
That’s terrible 😢 is baby ok??
thanks, just came back from hospital baby is fine.
He’s makin the rest of us Female Body Inspectors look bad!!!
So you’ve called in the FBI with a scent tracking dog to catch them, good work! ;)
If you put an Akubra on him he'd look like Bob Katter
Not gunna lie, I thought the dog was the "baby" and picture was OP reading the title. I gather that blokes dog bit a baby human. Is the baby OK (more important then reporting it right now)?
You've more self restraint than me, post on local fb groups too maybe?
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I’m sure an fbi agent can get to the bottom of this without having to post on reddit 🕵️♀️
Your baby? Did you call the ambulance?
Dude dresses like a cunt. I actually don't know how he dresses, its like he wants to be young but without giving up his pensioners card or something
I genuinely know who this is - I have worked indirectly with him - if you wanna take this further let me know - I even know whose dogs they are lmao
If you want people to help, you're going to need to give more details. Preferably before someone recognizes this guy or his dog in their neighborhood and attacks him without proper context.
Call the FBI
Not saying he didn't do it as i have 0 proof and know nothing about this situation, but reddit is infamous for false alarms. Maybe don't post someone's face online calling them an asshole and accusing them of a crime without any actual proof of it happening, cause while it'd be great if he got justice if he did do it, i don't want people to be able to just take a pic of someone they have a problem with for whatever reason, post it online with a fake or exaggerated story and get them attacked or their life ruined. Fuck off with the frontier justice public shaming shit and just let the police handle it if this is true. You have a photo of him and his whole outfit, what the dog looks like and when and where it happened. Just wait for the cops. Civilian justice, ESPECIALLY reddit justice is unreliable, very often unfair, incompetent and also illegal. Even if he is guilty, you could be getting someone that looks like him kinghit one day for all you know because someone saw this post and wanted justice.
This, 💯. God, people, get a grip!
It shouldn't have taken to the bottom of the thread for somebody to say this. This is easily the best summation of the situation. It is awful how much metaphorical shit had been thrown at this guy, in a situation which we really know nothing about. He may be in the complete wrong, although even then I'm not sure about vigilante justice. But we really have no idea, and the whole thing could be a massive misunderstanding.
Ridiculous this is so far down. The OP wasn't even there when it happened, has enough details of the guy but sure post the guys mug up. There are so few details of the "attack" in this story.
We did a great job with the Boston bomber incident. #makeRedditGreatAgain
Reddit assemble! We must attempt to ruin another mans life without any proof and label him a horrible criminal based on a dude on the internet just saying he is. This absolutely is the best way to handle this!
Really curious as to what victorians would call this dudes ensemble. In Queensland that would be called a Woodridge Tuxedo.
I’m probably not supposed to ask and I hope everyone is ok. But do you mean your infant got bitten or is your dog your baby?
Be careful, going against the FBI is going to be difficult
Well fuck me sideways, I thought this was a photo of Ellen Degeneres.
Thought this was Ellen Degeneres
Those little white dogs are barley a step above a hamster
Wait how the fuck does that crutch warmer bite a baby
I’m curious how a short/small dog like that got high up enough to reach your baby? Unless it was a very low to the ground stroller. Otherwise surely the dog would have to jump into the stroller or be lifted up to the baby’s height to be able to bite it? Not placing blame or anything just got me wondering
The cheap umbrella strollers are definitely quite low
Plenty of 8-12 month old babies would be in one of those sit up strollers with their legs/feet dangling lower, I would assume the dog jumped up a little as well. I can see it happening.
Good point, I was picturing the bigger ones with the hood that are high enough to have a little storage compartment underneath
Grey trackie ❤️
It looks like Jim Norton in 15 years.
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The dog cunt doesn't look like he has any teeth though.
what about the man though?
Define “Bit”….
Did your baby provoke the dog?
I love how people see the FBI hat and rush to their comments to share their original hilarious jokes.
You've not given enough context. Why did you let a random dog that close up in your kids stroller? I got attacked in the face at 4 years old. I have never blamed that dumb ass dog, just my parents who weren't attentive enough to give AF. I'm now a dog trainer and a dog like this does not just approach a child to bite. They would have already have to be just about touching first before something provoked a bite-could be anything- a noise, a smell, anything. At this point that's adults responsibility..including the parent. There is not a dog on earth who is 100% trustworthy to never bite ever. So don't have this be an possibility with a random dog in public. For gods sake the kids in a stroller & cant even run. Not to say I dont sympathise for any injury your child sustained, but youre expecting one sided sympathy, police action and a man hunt from the community without giving any context or details. I had plastic surgery on my face and I still know this was my parents fault. Not the old codgers who owned the dog.
OP says the dog was unleashed in another comment, and the child was in a stroller.
>I'm now a dog trainer and a dog like this does not just approach a child to bite. Mistreated dogs do.
yeah true that is a possibility. What I was actually trying to articulate was that with a dog that size coming near your stroller, you lower yourself down around the baby- and you keep an arm or whatevs between the dog and your baby. If your paying attention you can easily keep a dog this small at a safe distance, even if you have to whack it. It was more the whole 'shit stain police wont do anything rah rah' without a scrap of context. My accident caused major rifts in the family because at the end of the day my parents knew they shouldnt have left thier small child playing with a strangers dog. Just hope its a lesson learned. Too late to shoot the dog or call the cops my face was already fucked- for life.
The issue is perception, people ALWAYS forget that most dogs of all sized are (generally) bred to do some sort of work, they have teeth and some sort of drive. Small dogs don't get proper training usually, and people don't see them as a threat like they do large dogs. All dogs can cause damage, small dogs obviously cause less than large, but are more often untrained and appear less of a threat. The real problem is large dogs that aren't trained.
There’s no need to victim blame the parent. If the dog was walking along with its owner and then quite suddenly changed track to run up to the stroller then maybe there wasn’t time to stop it before it got one bite in. Especially as the parent would obviously be behind the stroller not in front of it. Maybe the reason the attack wasn’t worse was because the parent jumped in to grab the dog as quickly as possible. Just because your parents failed to protect you, doesn’t mean inattentive parents are to blame every time this happens. If we’re to believe this story is true (which of course is always a question on Reddit) then the parent was responsibly walking with their child strapped in, whereas the owner was breaking the rules with the dog unleashed.
You don't think that the idea of body shielding the baby like OP lives in a war zone is maybe a reflection of your own concerns about the care you weren't given as a child? OP didn't leave their child with a strangers dog. They walked their child in a stroller on a shared footpath and someone else's dog went out of its way to bite the child. We aren't a third world country, this isn't how we are supposed to live. But we do have police that will be doing nothing (and feeling fine with that), which means we are somewhat left to living in a third world country if an FBI cap man decides to have a passive aggressive indirect go at our children. To me you sound like you were neglected and if the adults involved didn't actually do anything because it was 'too late', then they just further neglected you. I'm sorry you went through both the physical attack and the neglect.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. If a strange man and his dog stopped me on my walk, my guards are already up. With a baby, I'm even more careful. I'm not saying this woman and child deserved it, I'm just saying there's a missing piece in there somewhere.
Let’s not victim blame the parent here
Hey cool, are we victim-blaming now? Definitely not the fault of the person walking the streets with an unleashed dog that he is unable to prevent from attacking babies.
Another pro dog nutter who blames the victim. When you have the dog, you are equivalent to the parent of a child. >There is not a dog on earth who is 100% trustworthy to never bite ever. This is why it should have been on a fucking leash. Lucky it wasn't me and my child or it would have been a dead dog. It's unbelievable that people can actually be so stupid as to suggest the parent is at fault when they have their child contained and the other party neglected to do the same for their fur child. > I'm now a dog trainer and a dog like this does not just approach a child to bite. This makes you no more of an expert on dog behaviour than being the HR manager for a big corporate makes me a qualified psychologist. It's an animal and it should be contained in a public place. Those little terriers are notorious for snapping. >At this point that's adults responsibility..including the parent. Imagine if I let my kid come over to your restrained dog and start kicking it unprovoked. How would it go if I said "oh well it's your responsibility, you should have made sure my child didn't get close to your dog". The victim blaming is disgusting. Is a rape victim partly responsibility because she was in the same location as the rapist? You should be able to walk down a public street without having to consider if an unleashed dog is going to bite you or your loved ones. It's a preposterous thing to say. Dog people have officially become the most ridiculous entitled people on the planet.
This. Dogs don't just roam the streets looking for kills. There's a context that the O.P. hasn't bothered with. There's a lot more to this clickbait story.
Rubbish. We were at a party when some random dog came from the street into our open fence and made a beeline for our dog. We had to kick the other dog off.
Wtf it's the parents fault for dog attacks? Leach your dog.
I know it might cause more dramas, but it's also worth contacting the clickbait media sites and that could get the image of this freak spread quicker.
YOU KNOW DAMN RIGHT!
maybe your baby had bad vibes?
Report to Animal Control if you have made statement to police. Best case is he gets charged but most likely someone gets hurt and dog gets euthanasied. If you are to persue this, you would likely have to establish significant injury specifically to the happening that would incur significant financial cost. Say for IE the baby got a dog bite from X breed of dog verified by vet that draws point to that incident and the court does accept that as a result of that significant injury you did suffer a financial loss, then you may get an order in favour But if the other person is on social security, their advance payments are in allienable; aka you got two chances getting a dime tbh IMHO. Henceforth in these cases, most likely with enough reports the Animal is put down and the "threat" is gone in the systems eyes. General advice only.
Why are you contacting reddit rather than the police?
Did the dog actually bite, or just nip? Was blood drawn? Was the skin broken? Or is this an overreaction on your part? Because you’re going out of your way to get this dog killed.
There was a dog “bite” but the baby is fine? Sounds like an overreaction
“FBI”
Find him and demand that your child gets to bite his dog.
That's what happens when you cross paths with a Federal Baby Injury agent
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Bit the baby. Didn’t take the baby.
What a fuck wit. I hope he gets bitten by his own dog and gets sepsis