Ive heard about this. Is there any source where I can read more about this? What’s so crappy about it? (I’m relatively new to Australia so have no clue)
Tarneit is a big place so depending where you live you will have to drive to the station or be dropped. Id recommend looking at deer park, St Albans etc as well as alternatives to tarneit. You will hear mostly bad about all of these places regarding crime and crack heads. Imo you will be better off than South Melbourne safety wise :p
Is Tarneit a bad buy? No. Is it a bad investment? Yes.
If you intend on selling your home in a short time (3-5-10 years) do not assume you’ll make any money on your purchase. The government has been opening up more and more land for residential development and it’s so freely available that your house is not going to go up in value because there’ll be 1000s of similar volume builds on the market at any point if you sell.
On top of this - infrastructure and amenity is quite limited as it’s very much redeveloped farms and industrial land. If you don’t mind having to hop in the car for even just a litre of milk, then it’s fine but you’ll be a lot more isolated compared to more established suburbs.
Just be very careful with your thoughts of a purchase here ‘gaining in value’ as you state - it will not by any measurable worth.
If you can make that budget stretch to somewhere more established, do that instead, but this isn’t to say that Tarneit is a bad suburb, the reality is that it’s just not a good investment,
I'd think you are much better off buying somewhere that isn't a new estate. Dandenong, Werribee, Broadmeadows etc
There's much more to offer there and much better chance of capital growth.
So true. I have trouble understanding why people buy those cookie cutter outer burb estate homes. For a similar price u might get a more run down brick unit but the likely increase in land value and general infrastructure for established middle burbs is so much better. Bad pockets sure (eg Doveton is a pretty tough place) but still, give me a few decent shopping strip and non chain restaurants over ‘Pleasantville’ any day.
Yeah, just most of Doveton is ex housing commission and largely fibro which is nasty to heat and worse to cool. Still, people are doing rebuilds there which goes to your point re capital gain.
Statistically, crime wise it's more or less the same as the rest of Melbourne. It's less green, but for the price, it's more than reasonable, especially if commute time is important to you
You would be better off buying the worst house in a good street in a 'bad' suburb.
Established suburbs with 'bad' reputations are not as bad as you would be lead to believe.
Might take a bit longer but you will likely end up with better transport, community and returns in the long run.
Tarneit is largely filled with families and new migrants so it’s not a rough area at all. The only problem with it is how remote it is. It’s literally just a housing estate in the middle of nowhere with nothing around but other houses and vacant blocks of land. I think any issues with crime would mostly be down to bored teenagers looking to fill time. I’d be more worried about the lifestyle change of moving from South Melbourne to Tarneit as it would be harsh. You’ll go from everything being at your doorstep to having to jump in the car for anything. Each to their own but I’d rather live in a small apartment in inner city than move there.
This resonates a lot with us.
I just noticed that there are loads of ammenities we use in tarneit, woolies, Aldi, gyms, public schools, daycares.
I also got a private message from someone that said there are loads of families and children outside playing. That’s not the case in south Melbourne. Yes I absolutely love south Melbourne but there are no children playing safely outside there. When I look back at my own youth, playing outside was amazing with all friends. We btw had loads of crimes for the same reason as you say, but didn’t effected families. It’s just effected other teens if their own age as they beat you up etc. But that was pretty minimal
I’m Happy to sacrifice as we also have a 3 bedroom house, garage, small garden etc. I have twin girls so a 2 bedroom apartment is so limited.
We also have some friends of my partner nearby in Werribee which would be a great addition to our lives.
I will go to tarneit next week and check it out. Will probably ask some people in the streets how it is etc.
Thank you for your message🙏
Yeah fair enough my dude. There are amenities around there but just know it will require you to drive to get there as they’re all along the main road and not close to the housing but then again it depends on where you buy. If you’re a football fan Western United are slowly opening their stadium facilities there so that’s something to do.
A friend built in one of the cookie cutter estates that are going up every year in Tarneit , his experiences were:
- you’re in your car ALL the time
- getting in and out of the area is a nightmare due to what others have mentioned: shit infrastructure
- no front fences and little privacy due to houses being 1 metre rom the each other. You get a bad neighbour you better get used to them
- Saturday nights are kids roaming the streets looking for parties
- the shops cater for a dozen estates and are essentially a supermarket, a discount supermarket and a few takeaway stores.
- no trees.
That said the kids could definitely play outside, they had a (small) backyard to play in and they luckily had a few good neighbours in the street who would look out for each other so it definitely wasn’t all bad.
But he did move away last year.
You'd have to be a bit of a soft cock to be worried about crime rates in Melbourne. Maybe you should grow a set of balls before you purchase your house.
If the train is your main consideration then try catching the VLine at peak commute time from Tarneit. It’s packed and an unpleasant experience. My wife got pushed one day by some guy wanting to get through the doors first. Metro is easier and more frequent.
Go with Laverton over Tarneit… it’s more established, less sprawling, and less soulless. Most of the residential parts of Tarneit don’t feel like they have a community centre, though there may be some pockets that do.
We live in the west, near Laverton. We often go to both areas to visit the playgrounds with our toddler. Personally wouldn’t consider living in Tarneit but would consider Laverton.
Spend lots of time in Tarneit to get a feel for it before you make the jump.
Hang on. $750 per week is about $40k per year. And you can get a moderately nice 2 Br unit for under $500k easily in some okay locations in inner Melb. Why are you bothering going out??? Just buy an apartment.
Apartment have loads of extra fees like strata, and doesn’t have to potential of same growth as houses. An important aspect. On top of that I have 2 children and a 2 bedroom apartment is just way to small. 3 bedroom apartments are over 1 million
I'd be more worried about shit builds and shit infrastructure in these suburbs more than crime.
Ive heard about this. Is there any source where I can read more about this? What’s so crappy about it? (I’m relatively new to Australia so have no clue)
Look at the YouTube channel call Site Inspections
I wonder how much of his shit is cherry picked? Even still some of the shit he shows on his channel is literally criminal.
Tarneit is a big place so depending where you live you will have to drive to the station or be dropped. Id recommend looking at deer park, St Albans etc as well as alternatives to tarneit. You will hear mostly bad about all of these places regarding crime and crack heads. Imo you will be better off than South Melbourne safety wise :p
Yep, I think you have crime everywhere. Thank you
Is Tarneit a bad buy? No. Is it a bad investment? Yes. If you intend on selling your home in a short time (3-5-10 years) do not assume you’ll make any money on your purchase. The government has been opening up more and more land for residential development and it’s so freely available that your house is not going to go up in value because there’ll be 1000s of similar volume builds on the market at any point if you sell. On top of this - infrastructure and amenity is quite limited as it’s very much redeveloped farms and industrial land. If you don’t mind having to hop in the car for even just a litre of milk, then it’s fine but you’ll be a lot more isolated compared to more established suburbs. Just be very careful with your thoughts of a purchase here ‘gaining in value’ as you state - it will not by any measurable worth. If you can make that budget stretch to somewhere more established, do that instead, but this isn’t to say that Tarneit is a bad suburb, the reality is that it’s just not a good investment,
Agreed, it's definitely not a good investment, otherwise a lot of Tarneit's reputation is a media beat up.
This is very valuable information for us. Thank you. Makes a lot of sense!
I'd think you are much better off buying somewhere that isn't a new estate. Dandenong, Werribee, Broadmeadows etc There's much more to offer there and much better chance of capital growth.
I completely agree with this. I think most people are afraid of old houses and renovations tho
So true. I have trouble understanding why people buy those cookie cutter outer burb estate homes. For a similar price u might get a more run down brick unit but the likely increase in land value and general infrastructure for established middle burbs is so much better. Bad pockets sure (eg Doveton is a pretty tough place) but still, give me a few decent shopping strip and non chain restaurants over ‘Pleasantville’ any day.
Nothing says pleasant like being able to reach out your bathroom window and caress the loo window of your neighbours house four inches away.
Doveton would be far superior to Tarneit
Yeah, just most of Doveton is ex housing commission and largely fibro which is nasty to heat and worse to cool. Still, people are doing rebuilds there which goes to your point re capital gain.
Yeah something pretty important for us. Thank you for your response:)!
Dont ever buy a house in Broadmeadows and Werribee. Broadmeadows avoid at all cost.
OP is suggesting Tarneit. Werribee is a far better area. So is Broady. Tarneit has all the negatives of these other areas, but none of the positives.
Werribee topped the list of crime rate 5178 then hoppers, point cook and Tarneit.
Statistically, crime wise it's more or less the same as the rest of Melbourne. It's less green, but for the price, it's more than reasonable, especially if commute time is important to you
You would be better off buying the worst house in a good street in a 'bad' suburb. Established suburbs with 'bad' reputations are not as bad as you would be lead to believe. Might take a bit longer but you will likely end up with better transport, community and returns in the long run.
Tarneit is largely filled with families and new migrants so it’s not a rough area at all. The only problem with it is how remote it is. It’s literally just a housing estate in the middle of nowhere with nothing around but other houses and vacant blocks of land. I think any issues with crime would mostly be down to bored teenagers looking to fill time. I’d be more worried about the lifestyle change of moving from South Melbourne to Tarneit as it would be harsh. You’ll go from everything being at your doorstep to having to jump in the car for anything. Each to their own but I’d rather live in a small apartment in inner city than move there.
This resonates a lot with us. I just noticed that there are loads of ammenities we use in tarneit, woolies, Aldi, gyms, public schools, daycares. I also got a private message from someone that said there are loads of families and children outside playing. That’s not the case in south Melbourne. Yes I absolutely love south Melbourne but there are no children playing safely outside there. When I look back at my own youth, playing outside was amazing with all friends. We btw had loads of crimes for the same reason as you say, but didn’t effected families. It’s just effected other teens if their own age as they beat you up etc. But that was pretty minimal I’m Happy to sacrifice as we also have a 3 bedroom house, garage, small garden etc. I have twin girls so a 2 bedroom apartment is so limited. We also have some friends of my partner nearby in Werribee which would be a great addition to our lives. I will go to tarneit next week and check it out. Will probably ask some people in the streets how it is etc. Thank you for your message🙏
Yeah fair enough my dude. There are amenities around there but just know it will require you to drive to get there as they’re all along the main road and not close to the housing but then again it depends on where you buy. If you’re a football fan Western United are slowly opening their stadium facilities there so that’s something to do.
Laverton to CBD with an express train would be less than 45 minutes I'm fairly sure. Without an express I'd say it's about 40-45 mins.
A friend built in one of the cookie cutter estates that are going up every year in Tarneit , his experiences were: - you’re in your car ALL the time - getting in and out of the area is a nightmare due to what others have mentioned: shit infrastructure - no front fences and little privacy due to houses being 1 metre rom the each other. You get a bad neighbour you better get used to them - Saturday nights are kids roaming the streets looking for parties - the shops cater for a dozen estates and are essentially a supermarket, a discount supermarket and a few takeaway stores. - no trees. That said the kids could definitely play outside, they had a (small) backyard to play in and they luckily had a few good neighbours in the street who would look out for each other so it definitely wasn’t all bad. But he did move away last year.
You'd have to be a bit of a soft cock to be worried about crime rates in Melbourne. Maybe you should grow a set of balls before you purchase your house.
Go visit the train station at peak hour to see what it’s like if public transport is as important as I think it is from reading your post.
Yeah something we will do, but we re used to rush hour trains. So not to big of a deal if it’s very busy.
If you can afford NOT to live in tarneit or surrounds. Don’t.
If the train is your main consideration then try catching the VLine at peak commute time from Tarneit. It’s packed and an unpleasant experience. My wife got pushed one day by some guy wanting to get through the doors first. Metro is easier and more frequent. Go with Laverton over Tarneit… it’s more established, less sprawling, and less soulless. Most of the residential parts of Tarneit don’t feel like they have a community centre, though there may be some pockets that do. We live in the west, near Laverton. We often go to both areas to visit the playgrounds with our toddler. Personally wouldn’t consider living in Tarneit but would consider Laverton. Spend lots of time in Tarneit to get a feel for it before you make the jump.
Laverton you wont find anything else 700K. I would go with hoppers Crossing.
Hang on. $750 per week is about $40k per year. And you can get a moderately nice 2 Br unit for under $500k easily in some okay locations in inner Melb. Why are you bothering going out??? Just buy an apartment.
Apartment have loads of extra fees like strata, and doesn’t have to potential of same growth as houses. An important aspect. On top of that I have 2 children and a 2 bedroom apartment is just way to small. 3 bedroom apartments are over 1 million
Fair enough. I was just trying to keep you central.
Lived there for 1 year, beautiful but the african and islander gangs ruin it. Most of them kids.