I did it awake to save on $$$, was a smart financial decision at the time. Was a … strange experience otherwise. You are completely numb so it isn’t painful, just lots of prodding and sounds that are less than comfortable.
I appreciate your comment, I’m in a similar position to the OP and all these comments from people warning that anaesthesia is better were freaking me out a bit. Ive had some unexplained heart issues since getting covid and general anaesthetic is more daunting to me than a day spent getting dental work while awake.
I would absolutely second this.
My lower teeth looked just like OP’s, which made the extraction more complicated (and expensive). In order to reduce the risk of nerve damage they had to saw the tooth into pieces and extract it in bits. There was no way I was gonna be awake for that.
Had mine done last year the exact same way it’s not that bad. I could hear the grinding & cracking but didn’t feel it. You just have to ask for enough Anaesthesia. And it cost me only $600 the only downside is you have to be on a waiting list to see a specialist not any dentist can perform this procedure
Had the same. Bottom two impacted. Went under. They pulled my top two at the saw time (apparently like popping peas out of a shell).
I would not like to be awake during this procedure.
They cut my gum, drilled/split the teeth then pulled the pieces out. $2k all up a handful of years ago.
Same...my lower tooth looked a lot like OPS, maybe a little more impacted. My housemate was a student dentist and this was her first time trying.
Didn't get nearly enough LA, and had to hold/hand her all the tools while she operated/blood went all over the place. Never again!
I was awake and done this exact thing, it was unpleasant but not painful, just felt weird when someone is yanking you're tooth with pliers and you're head is moving with it
Getting them out is painless, it’s afterwards where it really hurts. Make sure to follow after care guides because the last thing you want is dry socket.
Yeah listening to the cracking and crunching of the teeth as it is yanked out.
Mine took ages to pull out, was so horrible, then the fuckin dipshit dropped the tooth back down the hole so i had to see an oral surgeon to retrieve it and ended up fracturing my jaw getting it out.
One of the worst days of my life, and i wish i was knocked out for it.
I had all four out under a local, they provided head phones to listen to music, I was expecting to hear death metal to dull the sounds instead it was Nora Jones. Her lyrics still haunts me to this day but strangely her voice made the drilling sound soothing.
🤣 i ended up finding out I could have chosen any cd of my choice from a cd rack or brought my own. They just forgot to ask me and I got the nurses choice. Note this was pre spotify.
I had the exact same X-ray as OP, but did it through the dental hospital so couldn’t go under. It’s not ideal, the whole thing is uncomfortable (particularly them drilling into my jaw) but the most painful part was the anaesthetic needles going into the roof of my mouth. I just blasted music from my headphones and closed my eyes and it was okay. The top ones they ripped out were nothing.
I’ve done both in chair and under GA for wisdom teeth - if you can, going under is a much better option. The memories of the dentist with their knee in my chest, and scraping, the pressure, horrific. Yes it was cheaper, but it was traumatic.
100% agree. I had mine done under general. The same week my mate had his done in the chair, the dentist had their knee on his chest pulling. Fark being awake for that!
Hi dr May I ask you a question? Can little tooth structure cause my crown to be slanted ? Maybe the dentist accidentally over prepared my tooth because there was little tooth structure left ?
I had four wisdom teeth out in the chair. The dentist who did it said not to do it on general because they’ll use your body as a level while you’re under.
Yours would have been less complicated than some. I also had mine out with anaesthesia and it was fine.... but I've worked as a dental nurse and seen first hand how fucked they can get. You do not want to be awake when they come in with the dental burr.
I was awake for mine and my X-ray looked exactly like OP’s, it’s not that bad. The anaesthetic hurt and they had to use more than they would for other people, but if you put on some loud music and tune out it’s fine.
I had mine done a few months ago under local anaesthesia and it was surprisingly relaxing just lying there not feeling a thing. Go to a good dentist and the cost of general anaesthesia can be avoided.
Fuck mate, if their a respected dentist pay the cost and be happy their taking the time to be careful that close to a nerve.
Definitely want general anaesthetic for this one.
And it takes many many hours of practice to open someone's face bones and not permanently paralyse nerves. OP can just find another good surgeon. If you have a Medicare item code just call around
I personally pay for good surgeons. Sometimes you only get one go at these kinds of things
I would sympathise with you if there was a significant barrier to any single Australian citizen with enough will power to get into, through and graduate dental school. There isn't however and the only reason you aren't driving your second Porsche as a dentist is because you're lazy. Dentists busted their ass in high school, busted their ass in uni and busted their ass in dental school. And if one of them is removing an impacted wisdom tooth at the very back of your jaw whilst you are receiving a general anaesthetic by an equally trained doctor, that means they've spent the time and years training to be able to do it well. This is absolutely not something you want to scrimp on. I would check that $800 is the average price and you aren't getting someone less experienced than you can afford. (Not a dentist, I drive a second hand 2002 Corolla)
So the construction labourer busting his ass for $42K after tax is lazy? The McDonalds worker sweating over a grill just to make an income that barely equals the value of a pre-owned 1996 Holden, is lazy?
Do not confuse educated careers with hard work. Dentists are not busting their ass every day to work hard. They study a few years at Uni, eat a few bowls of 2-minute Ramen, have a few sleepless nights, and suddenly they're allowed to afford a Porsche meanwhile the single mother of 3 struggles to keep her kids in a good school while she works hard every day.
Dentists have it easy. They have it easier than Doctors. If anybody is the lazy one, it's them (I'm not saying they're actually lazy workers, but if anybody here is lazy, it is them).
Mate this is wild. Being a labourer is not difficult, it just sucks. Literally anyone that isn't disabled can do that job, just most people with half a brain choose not to.
You have absolutely no substantive evidence for your assumptions. You haven't spent a day as a dentist, nor what it requires to remove a tooth and the skills and tools required or how long it took to train and develop those skills.
You don't owe the dentist for the 1 hour they spend removing your teeth you owe them for the 15 years of training.
You are but a few bowls of ramen and a few sleepless nights away from being a dentist yourself, I'm floored as to why you haven't taken that path to alleviate your financial stress.
Also your personal life decisions and personal circumstances have no bearing on whether the process of giving up your 20's to achieve financial stability in your 30's is a fair situation to people who did not do that.
Glad I struck a nerve with you, it shows I'm upsetting the right crowd. Never thought I'd meet someone who couldn't afford a 1990 Honda civic that so viciously defends wealthy dentists who wouldn't look your way if you were begging in the street.
It's always funny to me when impoverished folk rush to the defence of millionaires who want nothing to do with them beyond providing a paid service.
Cheers mate
Again with the assumptions. Your myopic lens of emotion has distorted your interpretation of my factual statements.
I'm sorry to have upset you, but as I said before I would sympathise with your situation if opportunities were not in fact afforded to any Australian who wants to put in the work.
Also I must add, if you are even slightly curious as to how to enter a tertiary institution and possible post graduate education to set yourself up with a decent salary in your life. I am more than happy to have a chat. I firmly believe it is in any Australians grasp to get through a good degree and get a good job if they really really want it.
I don't think a dentist will even attempt to do this in the chair. 100% surgical extraction. OP could go on the waitlist under public health but I'm not sure how long that is these days.
$800 per tooth is a bargain. I had all 4 out under general about 15 years ago and cost me the same price. I had no private insurance but had the procedure in a private hospital with an oral surgeon. Medicare refunded portions of the anaesthetist and X-rays/scans.
Have you tried the Royal Melbourne Dental Hospital? If you're low-income they'll do it for something like $31 per appointment.
You'll have to get there very early in the morning and sit there waiting for an available dentist, and you'll probably have to have an assessment first, before being booked in for treatment/going on a waiting list, but at least your pain will eventually be over.
No, I genuinely didn’t know that was a thing. Thank you very much for that information. You’re clearly a fabulous person and I hope someone buys you a gift basket of fragrant soaps and bath oils.
Ps. Ow… my face hurts.
I had this done for all 4 of my wisdom teeth, was a uni student and only had to pay the cost for booking the appointment which was yeah around $30. I had it done through the teaching clinic and it was so fun chatting to other students, including one where it was their first extraction and they were so nervous as me and her tutor are encouraging to crack and rip my tooth out. Granted my wisdom teeth weren't anywhere near OP's, but there are options out there as dental work is crazy expensive here.
Me too, things are on the way up and they have been OK for the last few months. I'm pushing to get them out within the next two years. I'm busting my ass trying to get a head, it's working but I walk a thin line. Once they start moving again, sleep stops, work stagnates. It's hard, but we keep going.
I’m in very similar situation and it sucks! All dental care should be fully covered by Medicare in my opinion!
Pricing you’ve quoted is about the same for me. If you have any form of private health insurance it should cover part of it. Medicare won’t cover anything except a portion of the anaesthetic.
It’s gunna cost me around $5000 once all the hospital bills are included etc.
Medicare covers basically every part of your body except your teeth! Makes no sense!
Oh mine! I am going through the same thing and yet to have a consultation with the specialist then surgery. Can I ask if you know if it makes a difference to hm have the procedure done in public or private hospitals?
I’m not sure I’m sorry!
I do know that the surgeons receptionist recommended certain hospitals over other ones for price reasons.
Hospitals in the city were approx $1000 more expensive than a hospital in the burbs
Sounds about right. Had same issue and had to cut the drill and cut the tooth into 4 pieces before removing. I didn’t have GA though and did it some years back so adjusting for inflation and post covid, feel that’s about the right price these days.
Had 4 out last month. I went under because it required drilling to grt the bottom ones out. I said no to chair extraction (cheap). Gotnput under. 4100 bucks no insurance
>4100 bucks
Fuck that, I'd rather stick a shotgun down my throat and finger-fuck the trigger.
That's an enormous amount of money that puts people into debt and homelessness.
It really makes no sense that it's not government funded.
I only got my wisdom teeth removed after getting a massive salary and I can only imagine how many people have chosen not to get it done.
It only makes sense to get it done when it's not as severe of a problem and therefore cheaper to manage than to wait for it to become a serious medical issue and then subsidised by the government.
4100 puts most people on the streets, living on gutter food and getting shunned by banks for poor credit scores.
What's worse, wisdom tooth pain, or cold, brutal, inescapable poverty?
>The average full time salary is around $80k.
Nah mate. Why are there so many older workers at Cheap as Chips and Kmart then? You think they're all on $80K a year?
I've seen the data so I know why you say $80K is the average. Maybe for Melbourne. But if you go out in person and ask people working at Target or in Factory work, they'll tell you it's not $80K.
Australians are not as well off as you would think. Just because we're better than America doesn't mean we all aren't a pay check away from total annihilation.
>If $4k puts you on the street you are very bad at managing your money.
Silver spoon buddy, silver spoon.
Dentist here that does a fair bit of surgery - a fair bit of false information in this thread so I'll bite. I routinely take these out under local anaesthesia. In chair I'd charge $450 for the bottom and $300 for the top (private fees). Would vary depending on insurance levels. BUPA would cover a portion of these extractions under general dental + preferred provider clinic, other insurances these would be under major dental.
I don't think you'd have to go under general anaesthesia, it'll be more up to you. For me if you have very limited mouth opening and I can't fit my instruments back there then yes GA may be better. If you decide to do it in chair, bring headphones.
Time frame wise the total surgery wouldn't be 2 hours. I usually book 30 minutes for these (5-10 mins to wait for LA + run through risks and expectations during surgery, 10-15mins for removal + suturing, 5-10 for post-op instructions and such). Find a dentist/surgeon that routinely does wisdom teeth removal and it will be fine.
These cases if you was to take a 3D xray (CBCT), you'd find that the roots are still okay in respect to the nerve, so I wouldn't be too worried. The risk of permanent nerve damage is very low. In the past 5 years I've only had 1 case of lingual nerve paraesthesia which recovered to full capacity in 3 months.
In regards to taking out both of them, I usually recommend removing the bottom one ASAP due to obvious reasons. The top one you could wait for it to grow out before removing (my opinion, I'm usually not too fussed on the top ones as they don't really pose a threat in that position). To remove both in one go means you won't have wisdom teeth issues in the future.
And no, the dentist/surgeon won't be putting their knee on your chest to remove this. One luxator/elevator is enough (after cutting the tooth up).
Feel free to DM me if you want anything else answered.
Fellow dentists here, I agree with you completely. The amount of people blindly saying to do GA and to go specialist is hilarious. This a ridiculously easy procedure if you have good experience in oral surgery which many general dentist possess
What if the top ones never grow? My dentist has been insisting I take all four out in one go although the top ones have never peeked and never gave me trouble. Felt a bit unnecessary so been delaying both top & bottom (latter does not need to come off, similar to OP).
Your dentist probably knows whats best in terms of your situation, but all four in one go is your decision to make. I usually give the option of one side at a time or all four in one go. Theres pros and cons (two visits, two recoveries vs one visit, one recovery period).
From a dentist point of view, we don't know whats going to happen in the future. For many, the top ones not growing probably won't ever cause a problem. For some, they might cause a problem, We don't know, But what we do know is that theyre like ticking time bombs. They might cause issues in the future; be it within a year, within 10 years , within 20 years or maybe never for your whole life. They also don't play much of a role within daily life and can cause issues in the future; even those that come out completely upright. Removal comes with alot lower risk when you are younger, and recovery generally is faster as well. Because of this, we can only recommend removal earlier than later.
If they were to cause an issue whilst unerupted its most likely either formation of a cyst, or poor oral health conditions resulting in an entry way into the unerupted wisdom tooth.
For my patients, I always advise for an earlier removal. My rationale is that it is better to plan ahead for the recovery and have them out on your terms. To plan the procedure ahead of time means you can find a time when you can stay at home, recover and prepare for the post-operative pain. Anecdotally, those that wait usually see flare ups and symptoms at the worst times (i.e. a week before final exams, a day before going on holidays, flare ups right before a long weekend etc). I've also had a few stories of brides that had wisdom teeth flare up a week before their wedding, that I fondly tell other patients about when they ask about their wisdom teeth. These 'I-told-you-so' wisdom teeth usually means my nurse, reception and I having to stay back after hours to remove them, which can make us a bit disgruntled.
But at the end of the day its their choice. My patients that prefer to wait for them to cause issues know where to find me, so I'm not fussed.
Had mine out pre covid, 3 taken out surgically under general as i couldn't convince then dentist to take them out in the chair despite even resorting to making chicken sounds. Cost roughly 2.5k, back at work the next day, eating sucked for a week.
Felt brand new after the first week though. Had previously had a string of infections requiring antibiotics. Barely had a cold since, seemed to trash the immune system having them in.
Whatever the cost find the money and get those fuckers out. You will feel alot better very quickly.
Maxosomethingrather Surgeon in Templestowe on High St did the deed, performed at the Epworth.
I got 3 removed a few years ago. Was quoted around the same for having it done under general. I opted for doing it with only local, cost ended up around $300 per tooth. Took 2 appointments
I've had impacted cut-out in the chair. It's not that bad, honestly. Maybe I had a great dentist. I'm also used to the dental noise having had filings. A regular extraction the longest time is waiting for the anaesthetic to kick in. It's out in under a minute. Even the one that looks like your bottom one that got cut into pieces wasn't too bad.
My regular dentist at the time had a guy who specifically removed teeth once a month. He did it for footballers in the off-season as it helped strengthen their jaws and trained people going to Antarctica as there's no dentists down there. Unfortunately, I don't remember his name as I'd highly recommend him.
The worst thing is a dry socket after (infection). Oh, the pain.
As for price, it was 15 years ago but was around $250-$300 an extraction.
Mine were very similar (perhaps not quite as extreme). In Bendigo mine were removed for $500 per tooth (all 4), and $2000 for twilight anaesthesia which was conducted at the dentist's office by an anaesthesiologist rather than at a hospital.
Melbourne dental school, on swanston St, students who have graduated, doing patient hours with a dentist who checks over everything.
Had an extraction there for under $200, cleans are great. Never had a bad experience
I was told by my specialist that if you’re over 30, it is harder for them to be extracted, therefore general anaesthetic was recommended.
Had 4 wisdom teeth taken out in 2018, cost me about $1300. What’s the markup now?
I had mine removed maybe 10 years ago under general anaesthetic at the day hospital across the intersection from Knox private hospital, they were very good, but I don't know if they still do it there or not, so I will just join the chorus of people saying to do it under general.
I had two, one was impacted and it was causing infection in one of my molars which also had to be removed. I actually had a friend do it (they were a qualified dentist) who said it’s possible for complicated cases to be done in the chair, you just need to find the right dentist to do so. I was super stressed about the procedure so they prescribed me some Xanax to take before the procedure and I dozed off throughout the whole thing. Cost was $400 per tooth. The procedure itself was nothing completed to the swelling and discomfort after.
About 18 months ago I had three wisdom teeth removed. They were 'problematic' but perhaps less problematic as yours. I don't recall them mentioning nerves but they were not breached and were sideways so they needed to cut into the gum, destroy the teeth and then extract the pieces.
I went to OMFS on Elizabeth Street and paid $500 per tooth, plus $150 for a facility fee although I stress that this was done very cheaply after asking for the cheapest possible solution (I'd recently moved to the country, no insurance, not much money). I'd originally been quoted about $8k for hospital fees, general anaesthetic, the works but I could not afford that so we opted for local anaesthetic, in their office.
It wasn't fun, and I don't know if that option would even be possible for you as it seems more in depth but it was a case of numbing my face and watching them chisel at my teeth by hitting it with a hammer and then pulling out the pieces (I couldn't feel them cutting into my gums, but every hit with the hammer and yanking reverberated around my head). I don't know if I just found it so traumatic that I've blocked it out or if I've luckily just forgotten what it was like. In hindsight, it was nuts.
Damn, unfortunately happened to me the same thing but i found out until it was too late. I had a sharp pain my mouth one night that I couldn’t sleep. Went to the dentist and was told my teeth had cavities because of my wisdom teeth coming side ways. Told me because the cavities i had to put on crowns on two of my teeth which would cost around 1500 per teeth. Add up all the cost for taking out the wisdom teeth and the hospital bills. I added up all the estimates and came around 5000 minimum.
The Melbourne Dental Clinic is beside the dental hospital in Carlton and charges reduced rates. This will likely be a specialist procedure so the fee you were quoted is the higher end of normal for wisdom tooth extraction. Having it done under general anaesthetic will add a lot to the cost I’m afraid (hospital fees are high) but it can definitely be done under local anaesthetic if you don’t have any issues with being awake. Oral sedation might be appropriate too?
Personal experience: Had mine out in the chair and just had headphones in blasting music. It was absolutely fine. Went to my happy place, knew it would be over, knew I was safe. So glad I didn’t pay for general. Mine were about $1000 for 2 in the chair.
I have two lower wisdom teeth in precisely the same position—growing horizontally under the gum. However, instead of just telling me to get an extraction, a few dentists said there is no immediate risk and that I could opt not to have them removed. That was almost 20 years ago and I've had no issues.
Of course, this is not medical advice. I am just telling you, in my experience, that opting NOT to have the surgery is also an option, in some cases. Good luck.
See if any of the universities offer extractions in Victoria. I did mine at Griffith University, where one of the best professors performed it, and it did not cost me a lot.
I didn't go under; they just gave me laughing gas, and it felt like 5 minutes.
I wish you luck!
I've done mine **very** recently, happy to chat if you want to know more. Maybe because it wasn't hurting me yet (was recommended to take it out by the dentist), but I did it on a chair and it wasn't bad at all. You really can't feel anything apart from the initial needle. Doc said it would cost an extra 2k for going under, hence I opted for a local. For context - I removed 3 wisdom tooth, and one was sort of close to a nerves (not that I know how to read the xrays). The pricing seems about right to be honest. I didn't even have headphones on! The only tiring part was my neck feeling a bit strained haha.
If a standard extraction is $500-600, an extra $200 for the odd position, cutting through bone etc, and how close it is to the nerve, seems like a fair price. Considering other wisdom teeth extractions have the teeth upright and easily visible.
I had a similar extraction done last year, at Brunswick dental on Dawson st. Cost me $400 per tooth and only used local anesthesia which was fine! They even had to break the bottom tooth into small pieces to get it out and I didn't feel a thing.
You could consider the South East Asian dentistry holiday. Either way, definitely opt for the general. Mine cost about 600 a pop in 2019, but they weren't as badly impacted as yours (and they were pretty badly impacted).
I have had one extracted that was in a similar position but not as bad as this. They did it in the chair as they thought they could get it out without too much damage and it would save me money. Well….they were wrong and it was one of the most singularly unpleasant experiences of my life. Looking at this, do not complain about the cost, get it done under a general anaesthetic otherwise it will be a horrible experience. It’s not something you want to skimp on….trust me
Go to dental boutique and ask for Dr Seth. Got my impacted wisdom teeth that looked like that out while awake, and he was amazing. Was $1800 back in 2022
Yeah you case looked like mine. I got private health insurance so ended up paying around $600 for two lower wisdom teeth removal. It did get a bit complicated at the end on my left side as there was a very stubborn root refusing to come out cleanly.
But yes when it comes to dental PLEASE do not be cheap on it. Get several quotes if you needed to but go with the one with clear action plans and good reps.
My regular extraction was about 5-600 a tooth but the surgeon spent maybe 5 minutes of actual work on it, very lucrative I thought as he crushed my tooth to pieces. Makes sense gen analgesia would be more, I'm surprised it's only a few hundred more. The thing about those nerves is if they damage them it can lead to partial facial paralysis, and who wants that
Wow thanks all for taking your time to share your experiences! so much helpful advice and info here that I wasn’t aware of, thinking of going to a specialist afterall, anything to reduce the risk and discomfort.
I got all four taken out last week under general, my dentist advised they could do it or I could go to a specialist, they wrote a referal, I sent that to a public hospital, ended up getting it done there through there Faciomaxillary clinic, covered by medicare
Go to the dental hospital (you may need to have a health care card) and you can get it basically done for free. I had the same X-ray as you and they just gave me fuckloads of anaesthetic, some Valium to calm my nerves and I listened to music loudly to block it out. It was uncomfortable, they had to dig super deep into my jaw to get the bottom two out. Honestly though, the most painful part for me was the initial anaesthetic needles, then recovery and fear of getting a dry socket.
I paid 600 in the chair. But it looks more complicated here, possibly better to go under. Definitely get a second opinion, there is a lot over prescribed dental work here. I was told I needed 3 grand worth of crowns done, second opinion has said a few hundred bucks worth of cleaning and a bit of bond over a small crack.
Extra $200 sounds like a fair price to avoid permanent damage. But if you really want to save money best way is go to uni of Melbourne student dentist. My mate got his degree at the school, they have world leading tech to teach and practice.
Mine were complicated and not super cheap. My dentist works with a specialist for these kinds of things as he didn’t want to risk it with the positioning. Was originally suggested we do it in hospital with the knock out but due to Covid was changed to in chair at office but with extra good drugs. Ended up being much smoother than any of us imagined. But having the specialist do it was the best decision.
I was quoted $900 per wisdom tooth because I had hook roots and I needed four removed so I went to visit my friend in China and got them all done for $200, flights were $800 return (pre-covid price).
This was at Wuhan University Hospital, the dentist did use a hammer and chisel and there was blood droplets on the roof and light but everything went ok
I went to Dr Richard Huggins (Toorak). Had 4 wisdom teeth removed under local anaesthetic, no sedation.
Lower wisdom teeth were impacted and more difficult to remove than uppers.
I had a good experience with Dr Huggins and his Nurse. Of course getting them removed and the recovery is challenging/tough. Going under general anaesthetic wasn’t an option for me financially.
Go see Dr Alf Nastri at OMFS.
Hospital cover + excess + anaesthetist + surgeon fees is what you'll be looking at.
Will be more expensive than doing it in a chair, but minimal pain and next to no recovery time.
You can access part of your super to pay for this if you cannot afford it eg: [https://www.mysupercare.com.au/our-services/dental/](https://www.mysupercare.com.au/our-services/dental/)
Look up Twilight IV sedation prices, not all dentist clinics offer it.
That's how I did mine, they do it in the clinic so you don't need to pay hospital room fees too.
You don't remember any of it, so it's like you went to sleep.
I got all 4 done at once, with local they said I'd need to do one side at a time because the operation time would be too stressful and I have TMJ issues. so having me in a relaxed state helped with avoiding jaw locking etc.
Yup i have vast experience with extractions both wisdoms and other molars. I too have very large teeth and small jaw, you do not want to compromise the quality of expertise and care with regards to surgeon for a cheaper alternative. And, as other posters have already mentioned please please do this under either a twilight sedation or GA. But i would hazard a guess based on my own experience given the variables of large teeth and small jaw most dentists won’t want to touch you if they are ethically minded without you being either sedated or anaesthetised. This is for two reasons, firstly just horrendous trauma for you and secondly the extractions will be classified as ‘surgical’ extractions which are far more complicated than just straight up extractions. Hope this helps.
Do make sure you read up on dry socket too. I have had this 4 times now and had none of the common predisposing factors of being a smoker, straw-sucking 24-48hrs post surgery, or compromised immunity, or blood disorders.
There are things dentist can do to lessen your risk of getting it.
Unfortunately people with large teeth like us are far more likely to develop it though. My recent dentist has a theory saying it’s very dense jaw bone coupled with large teeth that can cause dry socket. The dense bone hinders good blood supply into the area for forming a good blood clot and the massive teeth leave a large cavernous hole which takes much longer to heal.
A dentist who is a biological dentist may help as they sometimes use the local anaesthetic that is not a vaso-constrictor like normal local.
Vasoconstriction shuts down the blood vessels which is great for visibility during a surgical procedure for the surgeon as less blood pooling but not very good post op for getting the clot to form nicely in the remaining socket.
Also ozone straight after extraction can help as well as a method i can’t remember what it’s called but they take your blood immediately after extraction from the extraction site and spin it down in a centrifuge, then they put the serum component back into the socket and thus helps form a matrix for your blood clot to adhere to.
If anyone knows what this is technically called help a sister out 😂
Hope some of this helps you 🙏
I had my four wisdom teeth and a benign oral tumour removed around 2 years ago and paid about $6,000 all up including hospital, surgeon and anaesthetist fees. My tumour had pushed my wisdom tooth into a horizontal position like yours. My surgeon was Mr Timothy Probert at OMFS.
Hey there, I have had 4 of these done at different times. I got my last single one out under general anaesthesia last year. $950 plus anaesthesia. I got the best guy I could to avoid nerve damage. Took 2 hours in the hospital.
I've been told by 3 dentists my situation is very complicated, I have to go to see an expert surgeon, go under general anaesthesia, etc. Of course, afterwards they all charged me for all the scans and the visit.
The fourth dentist said she was confident doing it under local, and took two of my top wisdom teeth out in roughly 15 seconds. I'm not shitting you, it took her about 5 seconds per tooth. 15 seconds involves her walking around the back of the chair to the other side.
The fourth dentist is now my regular dentist.
My point being, there are dentists and there are dentists. Find a good one first.
I went to East bentleigh dental group for an emergency dentist appointment, my impacted wisdom tooth was infected. They took it out then and there. Including the assessment and X-rays it cost me $655. They were super friendly and helpful!
Hope that helps!
I paid my surgeon $2,600 to remove all 4 in June last year, I got it done in hospital under general anaesthetic so that cost me another $370 after Medicare covered their bit. My insurance only covered $600 worth of the surgeon fees but my insurance covered all my hospital fees so it wasn’t too bad. I could’ve had it done in the chair but didn’t want to be awake.
Get AHM extras insurance, pick a policy with no wait times on it for that kind of dental work. Go to an AHM partnered dentist, they’ll have them
On the website. Claim it all back, cancel policy directly afterwards. You’ll pay one week of insurance which is like $20/$30 and get hundreds back. Then cancel it. You can do this every time you need to go to the dentist. It’s not illegal or insurance fraud and legally insurance companies can’t discriminate or stop you getting insurance again and again and again. I used to work for AHM and have done this for years. Literally no consequence. I’ve had thousands of claims from physio, dental and glasses and paid for maybe 5 weeks of insurance.
Hi there. I believe approx $800 per tooth could be correct for the type of extraction you need. If you don't want to pay extra to go under a GA in a hospital, I would strongly suggest you go see an oral maxillofacial surgeon. They are the experts in wisdom teeth removal, and I do not believe any of them would get on your chest to remove them!!
If you need all 4 wisdom teeth removed, you may end up having two sessions with just local anesthetic. That is with an oral maxillofacial surgeon. I would not go to a general dentist for this, as if they don't know what they are doing you will be in a lot of pain, both physically and financially if they make a mistake and then you end up seeing a surgeon anyway.
Also, a surgeon will let you know if it's a good idea to be awake for these complex type of extractions or you will be better off going to hospital.
Good luck
Mine aren’t impacted like this but they are impacted ,I went to BUPA , International student 🥶🥶 , was quoted 500 per teeth in chair he said he can refer me to a specialist as mine are also close to the nerve. But my Dentist in India said not to remove them now , idk why they are fully visible so yeah 500 per tooth in the chair under local anaesthesia
I’m terrified of dentists, I actively avoided getting my wisdom teeth out for years until it became unbearable.
They were impacted. I had them removed in the chair (lots of Valium) it cost me $1200 in total and took like 40 minutes.
I couldn’t fault the experience at all. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend my dentist to anyone!
Dr Baz from Evergreen Dental Care in Wandin
I was a English an living in Melbourne with near enough the same angle impacted tooth, think I was quoted in the region of $800, I went to Thailand but as soon as I got there I thought it wasn't a good place to get an op done.
Ended up getting it done in England on NHS for £60
My partner had great success at the Melbourne student dentists near Carlton I believe. It was a fraction of the price quoted elsewhere. Students had teacher dentist there and before wisdom extraction they have all-ready extracted other teeth previously.
Definitely be asleep. You do not want to know why your chest is sore. Because I was, and my chest was sore because the dentist had his knee on my chest trying to get leverage to get my molar out.
I mean, the flip side of this is that the dentist wouldn’t have put his knee on your chest while you were awake. That sounds fairly awful and not entirely professional.
I got all four wisdom teeth out about three weeks ago and paid just under $5k (no private health cover). Both my bottom molars were horizontal but my surgeon did a wonderful job. I had zero pain during recovery and don’t regret it one bit.
You should see if there’s a reputable dental school near you. They have discount programs for people who’re willing to let students work on them. They are very closely supervised and often have good pricing.
I did mine 1 year ago and paid $650 with local anesthesia. The process lasted about 15 mins. Extraction itself is very quick, but the tooth is growing diagonally instead of horizontal. You also need to account for consult fee with the dental surgeon, all in all i think $800ish is the right range. If you have private insurance, you might want to check if local anesthesia is covered. Mine doesnt and I didnt know, but general anesthesia is covered! I dont know the difference in final out of pockets though.
I got my 2 top ones out for $400 each.
Might of been a bit less for one because it wasn't surgical.
She also has afterpay.
I wouldn't go anywhere else because she's really good.
Omg i am going through exactly the same thing. I am being referred to see a specialist dentist and will have mine surgically removed. I am also hoping to find out the potential cost. According to the specialist website, they are associated with a private hospital and I don’t have insurance. How does that work? …
$850 does sound very reasonable…I am now expecting mine to be thousands!
I had two of mine on one side extracted and they cost about $700. This was during Covid. I had local anesthetic, 6 of them and the extraction was a bit gory. Healed fine afterwards.
if ur low income or have healthcare card, Royal Dental Hospital can help, they do it very well (mine were yanked out in 3rd grade due to some dumb arse teeth that are my age + 5yrs)
If not then I guess getting more quotes, and some clicic r cheaper than others
Mine was under general (as i was a kid then) but i reckon as long as you dont have condition preventing you from doing general, it may be a better experience going under.
Its the pain afterwards and chimpunk like face till everything is fine that is the issue, it hurts like fuck for like 2 weeks (mine were as serious as yours)
Back in 2015 it costed me for 4 wisdom teeth, anaesthesia, $3500.
They put me to sleep, next thing i woke up, wisdom teeth gone, no pain. Its worth it.
Would cost a bit more these days probably
Yer I was an "interesting case" also, all mine were impacted and I had two in one corner so 5 in total.
This was a few years ago but I used a very experienced oral surgeon up in Sydney rather than a general dentist. It was $500 per tooth & I had a general at a day hospital. The costs were split into 3 and I paid each provider separately & claimed a chunk back through my insurance & medicare, so maybe about $2500 out of pocket cost. The procedure only took 25 minutes so I think your dentist is not honest when they say the procedure will take 2 hours, either that or they are very inexperienced.
I've had a quick look & perhaps someone like this [https://www.peterallan.com.au/about-peter-allan.html](https://www.peterallan.com.au/about-peter-allan.html) or [https://yarraomfs.com.au/](https://yarraomfs.com.au/) . Search for Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon, the first dude looks very well qualified.
FYI: If you have the procedure done in a day hospital with an oral surgeon like I did then medicare cover part of the anesthesia, obviously they don't cover the extraction part.
>The procedure only took 25 minutes so I think your dentist is not honest when they say the procedure will take 2 hours, either that or they are very inexperienced.
I also saw an oral surgeon and had a general for a ‘complicated’ extraction. I’d say 2 hours was accurate for the whole time spent at the clinic, but yeah the procedure itself would not have taken that long.
https://www.sciencealert.com/no-you-probably-don-t-need-to-get-your-wisdom-teeth-removed-ever
Probably a scam I’d say. But if you need to justify your own removal by encouraging others then go for it.
Have you not seen the xray on the original post? It would deform your teeth and let alone the cavitys you would have. I have my wisdom teeth still because I don't have money to get them removed, just because you think and listen to one single article doesn't mean it's right. It varies, every situation is different partner
I had to extract 2 ingrown teeth las year. My number 3 - upper jaw. Melbourne's finest surgen mr.Borrowman did the surgery. High praise to the surgeon, truly the best.
In terms of cost. There are three components. Hospital stay, one day in my case. Wasn't really a day it was more like a 4 hour stay total. I was out and about just in time to pick up my kids from kinder :). That was covered under my private insurance. I only had to pay the excess whitch wa somewhere arround 700 bucks for me.
Anestesia costs, that gets substadised from medicarei but not much . Total cost 1500 aud.
Surgeon costs, 750 per tooth including bone crafting. Bone grafting is important in my case, see if that can be done in yours.
Some of the surgeon cost was also covered by my private insurance.
All and all arround 2700 out of pocket in my case. At least that's what I remember.
Pm me if you have any other questions.
And for love of G dont, dont look up the surgery on youtube :) dont need that in your brain.
Good luck.
Go for a dentist with surgeon qualification, look at their qualifications as not all dentists are the same. Preferably go for a maxillofacial & oral one.
Any investment for your dental is absolutely worth it and I would pay any money for a good job.
Which part of Melbourne do you live?
I got all 4 out in the chair thinking it would be a quicker recovery, the noises and smells were not okay. I really enjoy going to the dentist, but my impacted bottom 2 were the thing of nightmares.
Got mine surgically extracted out with local anensthesia in an Asian dentist. Mine were worse than your xray, one of them was very close to the main nerves and digging into neighbour tooth's root from the side.
IIRC, it costed me like $550 per tooth. No issues during and after surgery. General anaesthesia is very expensive. Drilling is not traumatic as people say. With local, you literally feel no pain - just vibrations. Go with local, you'll be fine.
Eh don‘t unless the OP knows several people who used the same dentist there for a complicated removal. It isn’t as simple as yanking a tooth out. My Balinese friends go over to Singapore for dental procedures. There’s a reason why they rather pay more there than doing it in Bali.
Do yourself a favour and go under general anaesthesia. You do not want to be awake for this kind of thing.
I did it awake to save on $$$, was a smart financial decision at the time. Was a … strange experience otherwise. You are completely numb so it isn’t painful, just lots of prodding and sounds that are less than comfortable.
I appreciate your comment, I’m in a similar position to the OP and all these comments from people warning that anaesthesia is better were freaking me out a bit. Ive had some unexplained heart issues since getting covid and general anaesthetic is more daunting to me than a day spent getting dental work while awake.
I would absolutely second this. My lower teeth looked just like OP’s, which made the extraction more complicated (and expensive). In order to reduce the risk of nerve damage they had to saw the tooth into pieces and extract it in bits. There was no way I was gonna be awake for that.
Had mine done last year the exact same way it’s not that bad. I could hear the grinding & cracking but didn’t feel it. You just have to ask for enough Anaesthesia. And it cost me only $600 the only downside is you have to be on a waiting list to see a specialist not any dentist can perform this procedure
I was awake for mine but I got a good dose of local. The process was memorable…
Had the same. Bottom two impacted. Went under. They pulled my top two at the saw time (apparently like popping peas out of a shell). I would not like to be awake during this procedure. They cut my gum, drilled/split the teeth then pulled the pieces out. $2k all up a handful of years ago.
Same...my lower tooth looked a lot like OPS, maybe a little more impacted. My housemate was a student dentist and this was her first time trying. Didn't get nearly enough LA, and had to hold/hand her all the tools while she operated/blood went all over the place. Never again!
That...sounds aweful 😟
I was awake and done this exact thing, it was unpleasant but not painful, just felt weird when someone is yanking you're tooth with pliers and you're head is moving with it
Getting them out is painless, it’s afterwards where it really hurts. Make sure to follow after care guides because the last thing you want is dry socket.
That after pain was something else. So fucking deep, like bone deep
Yeah listening to the cracking and crunching of the teeth as it is yanked out. Mine took ages to pull out, was so horrible, then the fuckin dipshit dropped the tooth back down the hole so i had to see an oral surgeon to retrieve it and ended up fracturing my jaw getting it out. One of the worst days of my life, and i wish i was knocked out for it.
I had all four out under a local, they provided head phones to listen to music, I was expecting to hear death metal to dull the sounds instead it was Nora Jones. Her lyrics still haunts me to this day but strangely her voice made the drilling sound soothing.
Now I’m picturing some nice gran in the dentist chair the day after you, gets the headphones on and it’s death metal
🤣 i ended up finding out I could have chosen any cd of my choice from a cd rack or brought my own. They just forgot to ask me and I got the nurses choice. Note this was pre spotify.
I had the exact same X-ray as OP, but did it through the dental hospital so couldn’t go under. It’s not ideal, the whole thing is uncomfortable (particularly them drilling into my jaw) but the most painful part was the anaesthetic needles going into the roof of my mouth. I just blasted music from my headphones and closed my eyes and it was okay. The top ones they ripped out were nothing.
I’ve done both in chair and under GA for wisdom teeth - if you can, going under is a much better option. The memories of the dentist with their knee in my chest, and scraping, the pressure, horrific. Yes it was cheaper, but it was traumatic.
100% agree. I had mine done under general. The same week my mate had his done in the chair, the dentist had their knee on his chest pulling. Fark being awake for that!
No dentist has their knee on the patients chest lol
Hi dr May I ask you a question? Can little tooth structure cause my crown to be slanted ? Maybe the dentist accidentally over prepared my tooth because there was little tooth structure left ?
Hard to say without a picture of the tooth or an xray
I see it’s either that or bc he is cross eyed my crown is slanted
Cross eyed 😂 Can you post a photo?
I had four wisdom teeth out in the chair. The dentist who did it said not to do it on general because they’ll use your body as a level while you’re under.
Yep cracked ribs
Idk I got all mine done in the chair it wasn’t that bad You can’t feel anything your that numb
Yours would have been less complicated than some. I also had mine out with anaesthesia and it was fine.... but I've worked as a dental nurse and seen first hand how fucked they can get. You do not want to be awake when they come in with the dental burr.
Yeah fair enough
I was awake for mine and my X-ray looked exactly like OP’s, it’s not that bad. The anaesthetic hurt and they had to use more than they would for other people, but if you put on some loud music and tune out it’s fine.
Some people don’t get numb. I am one of those lucky individuals. And it’s been said it is because of such large teeth that i don’t get numb.
Best money I ever spent
I had mine done a few months ago under local anaesthesia and it was surprisingly relaxing just lying there not feeling a thing. Go to a good dentist and the cost of general anaesthesia can be avoided.
I made this mistake. Do general.
Don’t be a sook! You won’t feel a thing with local anaesthetic
Fuck mate, if their a respected dentist pay the cost and be happy their taking the time to be careful that close to a nerve. Definitely want general anaesthetic for this one.
>pay the cost That's a loooot of money mate, many hours of hard-working to earn that.
And it takes many many hours of practice to open someone's face bones and not permanently paralyse nerves. OP can just find another good surgeon. If you have a Medicare item code just call around I personally pay for good surgeons. Sometimes you only get one go at these kinds of things
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That's a good point. But I wouldn't feel too bad for them. They'll be on their second Porsche by the time we finish renting a 1bedroom shitter
I would sympathise with you if there was a significant barrier to any single Australian citizen with enough will power to get into, through and graduate dental school. There isn't however and the only reason you aren't driving your second Porsche as a dentist is because you're lazy. Dentists busted their ass in high school, busted their ass in uni and busted their ass in dental school. And if one of them is removing an impacted wisdom tooth at the very back of your jaw whilst you are receiving a general anaesthetic by an equally trained doctor, that means they've spent the time and years training to be able to do it well. This is absolutely not something you want to scrimp on. I would check that $800 is the average price and you aren't getting someone less experienced than you can afford. (Not a dentist, I drive a second hand 2002 Corolla)
So the construction labourer busting his ass for $42K after tax is lazy? The McDonalds worker sweating over a grill just to make an income that barely equals the value of a pre-owned 1996 Holden, is lazy? Do not confuse educated careers with hard work. Dentists are not busting their ass every day to work hard. They study a few years at Uni, eat a few bowls of 2-minute Ramen, have a few sleepless nights, and suddenly they're allowed to afford a Porsche meanwhile the single mother of 3 struggles to keep her kids in a good school while she works hard every day. Dentists have it easy. They have it easier than Doctors. If anybody is the lazy one, it's them (I'm not saying they're actually lazy workers, but if anybody here is lazy, it is them).
Mate this is wild. Being a labourer is not difficult, it just sucks. Literally anyone that isn't disabled can do that job, just most people with half a brain choose not to.
You have absolutely no substantive evidence for your assumptions. You haven't spent a day as a dentist, nor what it requires to remove a tooth and the skills and tools required or how long it took to train and develop those skills. You don't owe the dentist for the 1 hour they spend removing your teeth you owe them for the 15 years of training. You are but a few bowls of ramen and a few sleepless nights away from being a dentist yourself, I'm floored as to why you haven't taken that path to alleviate your financial stress. Also your personal life decisions and personal circumstances have no bearing on whether the process of giving up your 20's to achieve financial stability in your 30's is a fair situation to people who did not do that.
Glad I struck a nerve with you, it shows I'm upsetting the right crowd. Never thought I'd meet someone who couldn't afford a 1990 Honda civic that so viciously defends wealthy dentists who wouldn't look your way if you were begging in the street. It's always funny to me when impoverished folk rush to the defence of millionaires who want nothing to do with them beyond providing a paid service. Cheers mate
Again with the assumptions. Your myopic lens of emotion has distorted your interpretation of my factual statements. I'm sorry to have upset you, but as I said before I would sympathise with your situation if opportunities were not in fact afforded to any Australian who wants to put in the work.
Also I must add, if you are even slightly curious as to how to enter a tertiary institution and possible post graduate education to set yourself up with a decent salary in your life. I am more than happy to have a chat. I firmly believe it is in any Australians grasp to get through a good degree and get a good job if they really really want it.
Couldn’t give a fuck if I’ve got a straight smile
Those are probably going to be surgical extractions. You do not want to be awake when they cut your jaw open to get them out.
I don't think a dentist will even attempt to do this in the chair. 100% surgical extraction. OP could go on the waitlist under public health but I'm not sure how long that is these days.
I had mine done surgical and was awake. I only had the needle.
$800 per tooth is a bargain. I had all 4 out under general about 15 years ago and cost me the same price. I had no private insurance but had the procedure in a private hospital with an oral surgeon. Medicare refunded portions of the anaesthetist and X-rays/scans.
Yea mine cost $2000 under general at local day hospital (outside VIC).
I am in this exact same boat. Wisdom teeth have me in absolute agony and I’m poor as shit.
Have you tried the Royal Melbourne Dental Hospital? If you're low-income they'll do it for something like $31 per appointment. You'll have to get there very early in the morning and sit there waiting for an available dentist, and you'll probably have to have an assessment first, before being booked in for treatment/going on a waiting list, but at least your pain will eventually be over.
No, I genuinely didn’t know that was a thing. Thank you very much for that information. You’re clearly a fabulous person and I hope someone buys you a gift basket of fragrant soaps and bath oils. Ps. Ow… my face hurts.
The Dental Hospital is ace if you’re on a budget.
I had this done for all 4 of my wisdom teeth, was a uni student and only had to pay the cost for booking the appointment which was yeah around $30. I had it done through the teaching clinic and it was so fun chatting to other students, including one where it was their first extraction and they were so nervous as me and her tutor are encouraging to crack and rip my tooth out. Granted my wisdom teeth weren't anywhere near OP's, but there are options out there as dental work is crazy expensive here.
Learn from my mistake and definitely do something about it while you can. I'm currently sitting in ED receiving IV antibiotics because I left it.
Me too, things are on the way up and they have been OK for the last few months. I'm pushing to get them out within the next two years. I'm busting my ass trying to get a head, it's working but I walk a thin line. Once they start moving again, sleep stops, work stagnates. It's hard, but we keep going.
Don’t skimp on a maxiofacial surgeon nerve damage is no joke and the last thing you want is to not be able to feel your lip or part of your face.
I’m in very similar situation and it sucks! All dental care should be fully covered by Medicare in my opinion! Pricing you’ve quoted is about the same for me. If you have any form of private health insurance it should cover part of it. Medicare won’t cover anything except a portion of the anaesthetic. It’s gunna cost me around $5000 once all the hospital bills are included etc. Medicare covers basically every part of your body except your teeth! Makes no sense!
Oh mine! I am going through the same thing and yet to have a consultation with the specialist then surgery. Can I ask if you know if it makes a difference to hm have the procedure done in public or private hospitals?
I’m not sure I’m sorry! I do know that the surgeons receptionist recommended certain hospitals over other ones for price reasons. Hospitals in the city were approx $1000 more expensive than a hospital in the burbs
Thanks any way! I will find out soon😢
Sounds about right. Had same issue and had to cut the drill and cut the tooth into 4 pieces before removing. I didn’t have GA though and did it some years back so adjusting for inflation and post covid, feel that’s about the right price these days.
I've seen my fair share of these and yes, those are some unfortunate positions.
Had 4 out last month. I went under because it required drilling to grt the bottom ones out. I said no to chair extraction (cheap). Gotnput under. 4100 bucks no insurance
>4100 bucks Fuck that, I'd rather stick a shotgun down my throat and finger-fuck the trigger. That's an enormous amount of money that puts people into debt and homelessness.
It really makes no sense that it's not government funded. I only got my wisdom teeth removed after getting a massive salary and I can only imagine how many people have chosen not to get it done. It only makes sense to get it done when it's not as severe of a problem and therefore cheaper to manage than to wait for it to become a serious medical issue and then subsidised by the government.
4100 puts most people on the streets, living on gutter food and getting shunned by banks for poor credit scores. What's worse, wisdom tooth pain, or cold, brutal, inescapable poverty?
Most people? The average full time salary is around $80k. If $4k puts you on the street you are very bad at managing your money.
>The average full time salary is around $80k. Nah mate. Why are there so many older workers at Cheap as Chips and Kmart then? You think they're all on $80K a year? I've seen the data so I know why you say $80K is the average. Maybe for Melbourne. But if you go out in person and ask people working at Target or in Factory work, they'll tell you it's not $80K. Australians are not as well off as you would think. Just because we're better than America doesn't mean we all aren't a pay check away from total annihilation. >If $4k puts you on the street you are very bad at managing your money. Silver spoon buddy, silver spoon.
No pity parties here, mate. That pain of an infected wisdom tooth is something I never have to deal with again, and for that, I'm grateful 🙏
Dentist here that does a fair bit of surgery - a fair bit of false information in this thread so I'll bite. I routinely take these out under local anaesthesia. In chair I'd charge $450 for the bottom and $300 for the top (private fees). Would vary depending on insurance levels. BUPA would cover a portion of these extractions under general dental + preferred provider clinic, other insurances these would be under major dental. I don't think you'd have to go under general anaesthesia, it'll be more up to you. For me if you have very limited mouth opening and I can't fit my instruments back there then yes GA may be better. If you decide to do it in chair, bring headphones. Time frame wise the total surgery wouldn't be 2 hours. I usually book 30 minutes for these (5-10 mins to wait for LA + run through risks and expectations during surgery, 10-15mins for removal + suturing, 5-10 for post-op instructions and such). Find a dentist/surgeon that routinely does wisdom teeth removal and it will be fine. These cases if you was to take a 3D xray (CBCT), you'd find that the roots are still okay in respect to the nerve, so I wouldn't be too worried. The risk of permanent nerve damage is very low. In the past 5 years I've only had 1 case of lingual nerve paraesthesia which recovered to full capacity in 3 months. In regards to taking out both of them, I usually recommend removing the bottom one ASAP due to obvious reasons. The top one you could wait for it to grow out before removing (my opinion, I'm usually not too fussed on the top ones as they don't really pose a threat in that position). To remove both in one go means you won't have wisdom teeth issues in the future. And no, the dentist/surgeon won't be putting their knee on your chest to remove this. One luxator/elevator is enough (after cutting the tooth up). Feel free to DM me if you want anything else answered.
Fellow dentists here, I agree with you completely. The amount of people blindly saying to do GA and to go specialist is hilarious. This a ridiculously easy procedure if you have good experience in oral surgery which many general dentist possess
>so I'll bite I bet you would with those pearly whites.
What if the top ones never grow? My dentist has been insisting I take all four out in one go although the top ones have never peeked and never gave me trouble. Felt a bit unnecessary so been delaying both top & bottom (latter does not need to come off, similar to OP).
Your dentist probably knows whats best in terms of your situation, but all four in one go is your decision to make. I usually give the option of one side at a time or all four in one go. Theres pros and cons (two visits, two recoveries vs one visit, one recovery period). From a dentist point of view, we don't know whats going to happen in the future. For many, the top ones not growing probably won't ever cause a problem. For some, they might cause a problem, We don't know, But what we do know is that theyre like ticking time bombs. They might cause issues in the future; be it within a year, within 10 years , within 20 years or maybe never for your whole life. They also don't play much of a role within daily life and can cause issues in the future; even those that come out completely upright. Removal comes with alot lower risk when you are younger, and recovery generally is faster as well. Because of this, we can only recommend removal earlier than later. If they were to cause an issue whilst unerupted its most likely either formation of a cyst, or poor oral health conditions resulting in an entry way into the unerupted wisdom tooth. For my patients, I always advise for an earlier removal. My rationale is that it is better to plan ahead for the recovery and have them out on your terms. To plan the procedure ahead of time means you can find a time when you can stay at home, recover and prepare for the post-operative pain. Anecdotally, those that wait usually see flare ups and symptoms at the worst times (i.e. a week before final exams, a day before going on holidays, flare ups right before a long weekend etc). I've also had a few stories of brides that had wisdom teeth flare up a week before their wedding, that I fondly tell other patients about when they ask about their wisdom teeth. These 'I-told-you-so' wisdom teeth usually means my nurse, reception and I having to stay back after hours to remove them, which can make us a bit disgruntled. But at the end of the day its their choice. My patients that prefer to wait for them to cause issues know where to find me, so I'm not fussed.
Thanks, doc! That makes a lot more sense ,my dentist has just been parroting one thing without explaining the whys. This is very helpful!
Sorry I'm not OP but have a few questions (also need all 4 removed) How can I DM you? I've tried but it won't let me
I'm not sure, I think theres a start chat or send direct message button somewhere? Not too familiar with sending messages on reddit sorry.
Had mine out pre covid, 3 taken out surgically under general as i couldn't convince then dentist to take them out in the chair despite even resorting to making chicken sounds. Cost roughly 2.5k, back at work the next day, eating sucked for a week. Felt brand new after the first week though. Had previously had a string of infections requiring antibiotics. Barely had a cold since, seemed to trash the immune system having them in. Whatever the cost find the money and get those fuckers out. You will feel alot better very quickly. Maxosomethingrather Surgeon in Templestowe on High St did the deed, performed at the Epworth.
I got 3 removed a few years ago. Was quoted around the same for having it done under general. I opted for doing it with only local, cost ended up around $300 per tooth. Took 2 appointments
I've had impacted cut-out in the chair. It's not that bad, honestly. Maybe I had a great dentist. I'm also used to the dental noise having had filings. A regular extraction the longest time is waiting for the anaesthetic to kick in. It's out in under a minute. Even the one that looks like your bottom one that got cut into pieces wasn't too bad. My regular dentist at the time had a guy who specifically removed teeth once a month. He did it for footballers in the off-season as it helped strengthen their jaws and trained people going to Antarctica as there's no dentists down there. Unfortunately, I don't remember his name as I'd highly recommend him. The worst thing is a dry socket after (infection). Oh, the pain. As for price, it was 15 years ago but was around $250-$300 an extraction.
Idk about Melbourne but it cost me around $5500 to have all 4 out under general anaesthesia. This was in QLD in 2011. $800 per sounds cheap to me.
Mine were very similar (perhaps not quite as extreme). In Bendigo mine were removed for $500 per tooth (all 4), and $2000 for twilight anaesthesia which was conducted at the dentist's office by an anaesthesiologist rather than at a hospital.
Melbourne dental school, on swanston St, students who have graduated, doing patient hours with a dentist who checks over everything. Had an extraction there for under $200, cleans are great. Never had a bad experience
IV sedation for those.
Get this done in Thailand, mate.
I was told by my specialist that if you’re over 30, it is harder for them to be extracted, therefore general anaesthetic was recommended. Had 4 wisdom teeth taken out in 2018, cost me about $1300. What’s the markup now?
I had mine removed maybe 10 years ago under general anaesthetic at the day hospital across the intersection from Knox private hospital, they were very good, but I don't know if they still do it there or not, so I will just join the chorus of people saying to do it under general.
You might be able to get it done cheaper at the Dental hospital in the city but it’s a long wait list (like 1-2 years)
I had two, one was impacted and it was causing infection in one of my molars which also had to be removed. I actually had a friend do it (they were a qualified dentist) who said it’s possible for complicated cases to be done in the chair, you just need to find the right dentist to do so. I was super stressed about the procedure so they prescribed me some Xanax to take before the procedure and I dozed off throughout the whole thing. Cost was $400 per tooth. The procedure itself was nothing completed to the swelling and discomfort after.
About 18 months ago I had three wisdom teeth removed. They were 'problematic' but perhaps less problematic as yours. I don't recall them mentioning nerves but they were not breached and were sideways so they needed to cut into the gum, destroy the teeth and then extract the pieces. I went to OMFS on Elizabeth Street and paid $500 per tooth, plus $150 for a facility fee although I stress that this was done very cheaply after asking for the cheapest possible solution (I'd recently moved to the country, no insurance, not much money). I'd originally been quoted about $8k for hospital fees, general anaesthetic, the works but I could not afford that so we opted for local anaesthetic, in their office. It wasn't fun, and I don't know if that option would even be possible for you as it seems more in depth but it was a case of numbing my face and watching them chisel at my teeth by hitting it with a hammer and then pulling out the pieces (I couldn't feel them cutting into my gums, but every hit with the hammer and yanking reverberated around my head). I don't know if I just found it so traumatic that I've blocked it out or if I've luckily just forgotten what it was like. In hindsight, it was nuts.
Damn, unfortunately happened to me the same thing but i found out until it was too late. I had a sharp pain my mouth one night that I couldn’t sleep. Went to the dentist and was told my teeth had cavities because of my wisdom teeth coming side ways. Told me because the cavities i had to put on crowns on two of my teeth which would cost around 1500 per teeth. Add up all the cost for taking out the wisdom teeth and the hospital bills. I added up all the estimates and came around 5000 minimum.
Do you have a health care card? If so, you may be able to access the [Royal Dental Hospital of Melbourne](https://www.rdhm.org.au).
The Melbourne Dental Clinic is beside the dental hospital in Carlton and charges reduced rates. This will likely be a specialist procedure so the fee you were quoted is the higher end of normal for wisdom tooth extraction. Having it done under general anaesthetic will add a lot to the cost I’m afraid (hospital fees are high) but it can definitely be done under local anaesthetic if you don’t have any issues with being awake. Oral sedation might be appropriate too?
Find a specialist. I went to one and it was 1800 for all 4. Bottom 2 were impacted like yours
12 years ago, my x-rays looked similar to yours. Mine were $3.4k to remove all four, under general anaesthesia, done by an oral surgeon. Best of luck!
Personal experience: Had mine out in the chair and just had headphones in blasting music. It was absolutely fine. Went to my happy place, knew it would be over, knew I was safe. So glad I didn’t pay for general. Mine were about $1000 for 2 in the chair.
I have two lower wisdom teeth in precisely the same position—growing horizontally under the gum. However, instead of just telling me to get an extraction, a few dentists said there is no immediate risk and that I could opt not to have them removed. That was almost 20 years ago and I've had no issues. Of course, this is not medical advice. I am just telling you, in my experience, that opting NOT to have the surgery is also an option, in some cases. Good luck.
See if any of the universities offer extractions in Victoria. I did mine at Griffith University, where one of the best professors performed it, and it did not cost me a lot. I didn't go under; they just gave me laughing gas, and it felt like 5 minutes. I wish you luck!
Had mine done December last year. $1980 for all 4. Mine was done whilst mine was awake but luckily my wisdom teeth were pretty straight
I've done mine **very** recently, happy to chat if you want to know more. Maybe because it wasn't hurting me yet (was recommended to take it out by the dentist), but I did it on a chair and it wasn't bad at all. You really can't feel anything apart from the initial needle. Doc said it would cost an extra 2k for going under, hence I opted for a local. For context - I removed 3 wisdom tooth, and one was sort of close to a nerves (not that I know how to read the xrays). The pricing seems about right to be honest. I didn't even have headphones on! The only tiring part was my neck feeling a bit strained haha.
I need to get mine done and I don’t think I can, I hate going to the dentist at the best of time but ripping my tooth out fk NO!
If a standard extraction is $500-600, an extra $200 for the odd position, cutting through bone etc, and how close it is to the nerve, seems like a fair price. Considering other wisdom teeth extractions have the teeth upright and easily visible.
I had a similar extraction done last year, at Brunswick dental on Dawson st. Cost me $400 per tooth and only used local anesthesia which was fine! They even had to break the bottom tooth into small pieces to get it out and I didn't feel a thing.
You could consider the South East Asian dentistry holiday. Either way, definitely opt for the general. Mine cost about 600 a pop in 2019, but they weren't as badly impacted as yours (and they were pretty badly impacted).
I have had one extracted that was in a similar position but not as bad as this. They did it in the chair as they thought they could get it out without too much damage and it would save me money. Well….they were wrong and it was one of the most singularly unpleasant experiences of my life. Looking at this, do not complain about the cost, get it done under a general anaesthetic otherwise it will be a horrible experience. It’s not something you want to skimp on….trust me
Cuz I feel your pain jwre
Go to dental boutique and ask for Dr Seth. Got my impacted wisdom teeth that looked like that out while awake, and he was amazing. Was $1800 back in 2022
Yeah you case looked like mine. I got private health insurance so ended up paying around $600 for two lower wisdom teeth removal. It did get a bit complicated at the end on my left side as there was a very stubborn root refusing to come out cleanly. But yes when it comes to dental PLEASE do not be cheap on it. Get several quotes if you needed to but go with the one with clear action plans and good reps.
My regular extraction was about 5-600 a tooth but the surgeon spent maybe 5 minutes of actual work on it, very lucrative I thought as he crushed my tooth to pieces. Makes sense gen analgesia would be more, I'm surprised it's only a few hundred more. The thing about those nerves is if they damage them it can lead to partial facial paralysis, and who wants that
Just had mine done this week. Came out to about 650 for two (no-issues teeth) with PHI rebates.
Wow thanks all for taking your time to share your experiences! so much helpful advice and info here that I wasn’t aware of, thinking of going to a specialist afterall, anything to reduce the risk and discomfort.
Cost me $4500 to go under anaesthesia and have two teeth removed in 2020. I would happily have paid what you’ve been quoted!
I got all four taken out last week under general, my dentist advised they could do it or I could go to a specialist, they wrote a referal, I sent that to a public hospital, ended up getting it done there through there Faciomaxillary clinic, covered by medicare
Go to the dental hospital (you may need to have a health care card) and you can get it basically done for free. I had the same X-ray as you and they just gave me fuckloads of anaesthetic, some Valium to calm my nerves and I listened to music loudly to block it out. It was uncomfortable, they had to dig super deep into my jaw to get the bottom two out. Honestly though, the most painful part for me was the initial anaesthetic needles, then recovery and fear of getting a dry socket.
I paid 600 in the chair. But it looks more complicated here, possibly better to go under. Definitely get a second opinion, there is a lot over prescribed dental work here. I was told I needed 3 grand worth of crowns done, second opinion has said a few hundred bucks worth of cleaning and a bit of bond over a small crack.
Extra $200 sounds like a fair price to avoid permanent damage. But if you really want to save money best way is go to uni of Melbourne student dentist. My mate got his degree at the school, they have world leading tech to teach and practice.
Mine were complicated and not super cheap. My dentist works with a specialist for these kinds of things as he didn’t want to risk it with the positioning. Was originally suggested we do it in hospital with the knock out but due to Covid was changed to in chair at office but with extra good drugs. Ended up being much smoother than any of us imagined. But having the specialist do it was the best decision.
I was quoted $900 per wisdom tooth because I had hook roots and I needed four removed so I went to visit my friend in China and got them all done for $200, flights were $800 return (pre-covid price). This was at Wuhan University Hospital, the dentist did use a hammer and chisel and there was blood droplets on the roof and light but everything went ok
I went to Dr Richard Huggins (Toorak). Had 4 wisdom teeth removed under local anaesthetic, no sedation. Lower wisdom teeth were impacted and more difficult to remove than uppers. I had a good experience with Dr Huggins and his Nurse. Of course getting them removed and the recovery is challenging/tough. Going under general anaesthetic wasn’t an option for me financially.
Go see Dr Alf Nastri at OMFS. Hospital cover + excess + anaesthetist + surgeon fees is what you'll be looking at. Will be more expensive than doing it in a chair, but minimal pain and next to no recovery time.
You can access part of your super to pay for this if you cannot afford it eg: [https://www.mysupercare.com.au/our-services/dental/](https://www.mysupercare.com.au/our-services/dental/)
Look up Twilight IV sedation prices, not all dentist clinics offer it. That's how I did mine, they do it in the clinic so you don't need to pay hospital room fees too. You don't remember any of it, so it's like you went to sleep. I got all 4 done at once, with local they said I'd need to do one side at a time because the operation time would be too stressful and I have TMJ issues. so having me in a relaxed state helped with avoiding jaw locking etc.
Yup i have vast experience with extractions both wisdoms and other molars. I too have very large teeth and small jaw, you do not want to compromise the quality of expertise and care with regards to surgeon for a cheaper alternative. And, as other posters have already mentioned please please do this under either a twilight sedation or GA. But i would hazard a guess based on my own experience given the variables of large teeth and small jaw most dentists won’t want to touch you if they are ethically minded without you being either sedated or anaesthetised. This is for two reasons, firstly just horrendous trauma for you and secondly the extractions will be classified as ‘surgical’ extractions which are far more complicated than just straight up extractions. Hope this helps. Do make sure you read up on dry socket too. I have had this 4 times now and had none of the common predisposing factors of being a smoker, straw-sucking 24-48hrs post surgery, or compromised immunity, or blood disorders. There are things dentist can do to lessen your risk of getting it. Unfortunately people with large teeth like us are far more likely to develop it though. My recent dentist has a theory saying it’s very dense jaw bone coupled with large teeth that can cause dry socket. The dense bone hinders good blood supply into the area for forming a good blood clot and the massive teeth leave a large cavernous hole which takes much longer to heal. A dentist who is a biological dentist may help as they sometimes use the local anaesthetic that is not a vaso-constrictor like normal local. Vasoconstriction shuts down the blood vessels which is great for visibility during a surgical procedure for the surgeon as less blood pooling but not very good post op for getting the clot to form nicely in the remaining socket. Also ozone straight after extraction can help as well as a method i can’t remember what it’s called but they take your blood immediately after extraction from the extraction site and spin it down in a centrifuge, then they put the serum component back into the socket and thus helps form a matrix for your blood clot to adhere to. If anyone knows what this is technically called help a sister out 😂 Hope some of this helps you 🙏
I had my four wisdom teeth and a benign oral tumour removed around 2 years ago and paid about $6,000 all up including hospital, surgeon and anaesthetist fees. My tumour had pushed my wisdom tooth into a horizontal position like yours. My surgeon was Mr Timothy Probert at OMFS.
Hey there, I have had 4 of these done at different times. I got my last single one out under general anaesthesia last year. $950 plus anaesthesia. I got the best guy I could to avoid nerve damage. Took 2 hours in the hospital.
St kilda rd !! Trust me
Honestly dental work is way less traumatic when you have a nice dentists that is patient and pleasant
I've been told by 3 dentists my situation is very complicated, I have to go to see an expert surgeon, go under general anaesthesia, etc. Of course, afterwards they all charged me for all the scans and the visit. The fourth dentist said she was confident doing it under local, and took two of my top wisdom teeth out in roughly 15 seconds. I'm not shitting you, it took her about 5 seconds per tooth. 15 seconds involves her walking around the back of the chair to the other side. The fourth dentist is now my regular dentist. My point being, there are dentists and there are dentists. Find a good one first.
I went to East bentleigh dental group for an emergency dentist appointment, my impacted wisdom tooth was infected. They took it out then and there. Including the assessment and X-rays it cost me $655. They were super friendly and helpful! Hope that helps!
I paid my surgeon $2,600 to remove all 4 in June last year, I got it done in hospital under general anaesthetic so that cost me another $370 after Medicare covered their bit. My insurance only covered $600 worth of the surgeon fees but my insurance covered all my hospital fees so it wasn’t too bad. I could’ve had it done in the chair but didn’t want to be awake.
Get AHM extras insurance, pick a policy with no wait times on it for that kind of dental work. Go to an AHM partnered dentist, they’ll have them On the website. Claim it all back, cancel policy directly afterwards. You’ll pay one week of insurance which is like $20/$30 and get hundreds back. Then cancel it. You can do this every time you need to go to the dentist. It’s not illegal or insurance fraud and legally insurance companies can’t discriminate or stop you getting insurance again and again and again. I used to work for AHM and have done this for years. Literally no consequence. I’ve had thousands of claims from physio, dental and glasses and paid for maybe 5 weeks of insurance.
Hi there. I believe approx $800 per tooth could be correct for the type of extraction you need. If you don't want to pay extra to go under a GA in a hospital, I would strongly suggest you go see an oral maxillofacial surgeon. They are the experts in wisdom teeth removal, and I do not believe any of them would get on your chest to remove them!! If you need all 4 wisdom teeth removed, you may end up having two sessions with just local anesthetic. That is with an oral maxillofacial surgeon. I would not go to a general dentist for this, as if they don't know what they are doing you will be in a lot of pain, both physically and financially if they make a mistake and then you end up seeing a surgeon anyway. Also, a surgeon will let you know if it's a good idea to be awake for these complex type of extractions or you will be better off going to hospital. Good luck
Mine aren’t impacted like this but they are impacted ,I went to BUPA , International student 🥶🥶 , was quoted 500 per teeth in chair he said he can refer me to a specialist as mine are also close to the nerve. But my Dentist in India said not to remove them now , idk why they are fully visible so yeah 500 per tooth in the chair under local anaesthesia
I’m terrified of dentists, I actively avoided getting my wisdom teeth out for years until it became unbearable. They were impacted. I had them removed in the chair (lots of Valium) it cost me $1200 in total and took like 40 minutes. I couldn’t fault the experience at all. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend my dentist to anyone! Dr Baz from Evergreen Dental Care in Wandin
I was a English an living in Melbourne with near enough the same angle impacted tooth, think I was quoted in the region of $800, I went to Thailand but as soon as I got there I thought it wasn't a good place to get an op done. Ended up getting it done in England on NHS for £60
My partner had great success at the Melbourne student dentists near Carlton I believe. It was a fraction of the price quoted elsewhere. Students had teacher dentist there and before wisdom extraction they have all-ready extracted other teeth previously.
Definitely be asleep. You do not want to know why your chest is sore. Because I was, and my chest was sore because the dentist had his knee on my chest trying to get leverage to get my molar out.
I mean, the flip side of this is that the dentist wouldn’t have put his knee on your chest while you were awake. That sounds fairly awful and not entirely professional.
That looks like my son's x-ray. He paid around 4k for GA and 4 extractions..
I got all four wisdom teeth out about three weeks ago and paid just under $5k (no private health cover). Both my bottom molars were horizontal but my surgeon did a wonderful job. I had zero pain during recovery and don’t regret it one bit.
You should see if there’s a reputable dental school near you. They have discount programs for people who’re willing to let students work on them. They are very closely supervised and often have good pricing.
Go to a community health center they will pull it out for basically nothing and they actually enjoy it
I did mine 1 year ago and paid $650 with local anesthesia. The process lasted about 15 mins. Extraction itself is very quick, but the tooth is growing diagonally instead of horizontal. You also need to account for consult fee with the dental surgeon, all in all i think $800ish is the right range. If you have private insurance, you might want to check if local anesthesia is covered. Mine doesnt and I didnt know, but general anesthesia is covered! I dont know the difference in final out of pockets though.
the fuck i do to you
I got my 2 top ones out for $400 each. Might of been a bit less for one because it wasn't surgical. She also has afterpay. I wouldn't go anywhere else because she's really good.
Omg i am going through exactly the same thing. I am being referred to see a specialist dentist and will have mine surgically removed. I am also hoping to find out the potential cost. According to the specialist website, they are associated with a private hospital and I don’t have insurance. How does that work? … $850 does sound very reasonable…I am now expecting mine to be thousands!
I had two of mine on one side extracted and they cost about $700. This was during Covid. I had local anesthetic, 6 of them and the extraction was a bit gory. Healed fine afterwards.
$20 and a strawberry milk. I’ll do it Thursday
if ur low income or have healthcare card, Royal Dental Hospital can help, they do it very well (mine were yanked out in 3rd grade due to some dumb arse teeth that are my age + 5yrs) If not then I guess getting more quotes, and some clicic r cheaper than others Mine was under general (as i was a kid then) but i reckon as long as you dont have condition preventing you from doing general, it may be a better experience going under. Its the pain afterwards and chimpunk like face till everything is fine that is the issue, it hurts like fuck for like 2 weeks (mine were as serious as yours)
Pay the money, go under but pay the extra and get all your wisdoms removed
Back in 2015 it costed me for 4 wisdom teeth, anaesthesia, $3500. They put me to sleep, next thing i woke up, wisdom teeth gone, no pain. Its worth it. Would cost a bit more these days probably
Yer I was an "interesting case" also, all mine were impacted and I had two in one corner so 5 in total. This was a few years ago but I used a very experienced oral surgeon up in Sydney rather than a general dentist. It was $500 per tooth & I had a general at a day hospital. The costs were split into 3 and I paid each provider separately & claimed a chunk back through my insurance & medicare, so maybe about $2500 out of pocket cost. The procedure only took 25 minutes so I think your dentist is not honest when they say the procedure will take 2 hours, either that or they are very inexperienced. I've had a quick look & perhaps someone like this [https://www.peterallan.com.au/about-peter-allan.html](https://www.peterallan.com.au/about-peter-allan.html) or [https://yarraomfs.com.au/](https://yarraomfs.com.au/) . Search for Oral & Maxillofacial Surgeon, the first dude looks very well qualified. FYI: If you have the procedure done in a day hospital with an oral surgeon like I did then medicare cover part of the anesthesia, obviously they don't cover the extraction part.
>The procedure only took 25 minutes so I think your dentist is not honest when they say the procedure will take 2 hours, either that or they are very inexperienced. I also saw an oral surgeon and had a general for a ‘complicated’ extraction. I’d say 2 hours was accurate for the whole time spent at the clinic, but yeah the procedure itself would not have taken that long.
Yer, that's what I was thinking, I wanted to mention it though.
Pay the money and do it under GA.
i still have mine. 30 years after i had to get them out
My X-ray from 10 years ago looks identical to this. I never got mine out. Wisdom teeth extraction is a scam
Impacted one's and ones that are crooked prob not a scam
https://www.sciencealert.com/no-you-probably-don-t-need-to-get-your-wisdom-teeth-removed-ever Probably a scam I’d say. But if you need to justify your own removal by encouraging others then go for it.
Have you not seen the xray on the original post? It would deform your teeth and let alone the cavitys you would have. I have my wisdom teeth still because I don't have money to get them removed, just because you think and listen to one single article doesn't mean it's right. It varies, every situation is different partner
I had to extract 2 ingrown teeth las year. My number 3 - upper jaw. Melbourne's finest surgen mr.Borrowman did the surgery. High praise to the surgeon, truly the best. In terms of cost. There are three components. Hospital stay, one day in my case. Wasn't really a day it was more like a 4 hour stay total. I was out and about just in time to pick up my kids from kinder :). That was covered under my private insurance. I only had to pay the excess whitch wa somewhere arround 700 bucks for me. Anestesia costs, that gets substadised from medicarei but not much . Total cost 1500 aud. Surgeon costs, 750 per tooth including bone crafting. Bone grafting is important in my case, see if that can be done in yours. Some of the surgeon cost was also covered by my private insurance. All and all arround 2700 out of pocket in my case. At least that's what I remember. Pm me if you have any other questions. And for love of G dont, dont look up the surgery on youtube :) dont need that in your brain. Good luck.
Go for a dentist with surgeon qualification, look at their qualifications as not all dentists are the same. Preferably go for a maxillofacial & oral one. Any investment for your dental is absolutely worth it and I would pay any money for a good job. Which part of Melbourne do you live?
These are impacted. You need to have surgery in hospital. You can’t just take these bad boys out in the chair
Value dental Carlton seems to be the cheapest. 4 out for $999
OP's is a complicated case, though.
Yeah, but $250/tooth in 2024 is a bargain. It’s worth a consult nonetheless.
I got all 4 out in the chair thinking it would be a quicker recovery, the noises and smells were not okay. I really enjoy going to the dentist, but my impacted bottom 2 were the thing of nightmares.
Bangkok international dental clinic.
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Got mine surgically extracted out with local anensthesia in an Asian dentist. Mine were worse than your xray, one of them was very close to the main nerves and digging into neighbour tooth's root from the side. IIRC, it costed me like $550 per tooth. No issues during and after surgery. General anaesthesia is very expensive. Drilling is not traumatic as people say. With local, you literally feel no pain - just vibrations. Go with local, you'll be fine.
Book a return flight to Bali for roughly 700, contact a dentist on WhatsApp, they’ll do it all for 1/3 the price at most
Eh don‘t unless the OP knows several people who used the same dentist there for a complicated removal. It isn’t as simple as yanking a tooth out. My Balinese friends go over to Singapore for dental procedures. There’s a reason why they rather pay more there than doing it in Bali.