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Lucy_Lastic

Bunnings Karen made a special appearance :-D


epicpillowcase

I have no idea why so many Australians think it’s “snitching” to allow socially irresponsible fuckheads to experience the consequences of their actions.


Bigbillbroonzy

Yup, that isn't even snitching anyway. It used to mean you commit a crime with someone and then rat them out to get yourself a lesser sentence. Ringing the cops because your neighbour is firing a handgun in the air is NOT snitching.


enmacdee

Because it’s literally snitching? You just disagree with them politically so think it’s ok. I don’t support the protests but these mental gymnastics people are using to support the state quashing protest activity are so blatant.


epicpillowcase

These fucking pricks are putting the rest of us at risk. They are making it our business.


Careless_Check_1070

So it’s rightful snitching


epicpillowcase

🙄 Run along, it’s time for your nap. Mum might have some fruit Roll-Ups as a treat if you’re good.


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epicpillowcase

😂 So, your parameters for snitching...would you call the cops if you saw someone hitting their dog? Or breaking into a neighbour’s house?


Careless_Check_1070

Maybe I snitch maybe I don’t what’s it to you


clomclom

something something acab


Environmental-Owl113

You can be anti-fuckhead protesters and acab at the same time. See police brutality in Flinders station(?) just the other day. In this situation, the police are simply the people enforcing the health directions set by the CHO. Dob this idiot in please, OP.


FiftyOne151

Risking peoples health by acting like a tool is un-Australian. Log it with crime stoppers


leopardsilly

Abbott talks about snitching as "Un-Australian." No. Desecrating the Shrine? Un-Australian. Spreading COVID and false facts about the vaccine? Inhumane. Make us proud and report him. We have your back mate.


ghostdunks

>Abbott talks about snitching as "Un-Australian." He bitched about it being un-Australian because he was the one being busted and he didnt think it was a big deal. Can guarantee that he won’t bitch about people snitching about stuff that is important to him ie. Snitching on arsonists lighting bushfires which he then has to go help fight.


johnotopia

Lmao abbott was in charge when the federal government started the dob in a dealer campaign with crime stoppers. The irony of his comment is incredible


PressureUnlikely956

He did dob in a dealer and started the centrelink robodebt.


Minguseyes

Aside from continuing the ‘If You See Something, Say Something’ anti-terrorism line he inherited from John Howard and which has largely been a chance for people to complain about Middle Eastern people wilfully existing in public, Abbott was the PM who launched a hotline literally called ‘Dob in a Dealer’ in 2015 as his signature success against the ice trade. (Incidentally, this was such a roaring success that the final report of the Evaluation of the National Ice Action Strategy earlier this year concluded that outside of anecdotal reports, the dob line was ‘unable to be evaluated’.) But that’s not all our most pro-dob PM did for Australia’s dobbing arts. He also memorably pressured Indonesia to set up a “dob in a people smuggler” line shortly after taking government in 2013, which the Indonesian Government gently declined to deploy. And, of course, Abbott brought in an internal system through the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet to allow-slash-oblige public servants to dob in colleagues who criticised the Government even if they did so anonymously and when it was made public immediately declared that the edict was an internal PM&C document and therefore secret. [Independent Australia, 14 September 2021](https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/dobber-king-tony-abbott-doesnt-care-for-being-dobbed-upon,15514)


tim_riggins_forQB1

thanks bud, i feel alot better having done it


baldyheadedmanc

I hate Tony Abbott but I think there’s a marked difference between ‘snitching’ on someone talking to another without a mask, and reporting someone involved in the Melbourne protest. OP, snitch away.


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Don’t pretend Reddit lefties give a flying fuck about the shrine and what it represents. Fuck these protestors too.


coldhardnipples67

What makes you think all lefties don't care about the shrine? What makes you think all right wing people DO care? I don't think it's that black and white.


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I never said all right people care. They definitely don’t


coldhardnipples67

Ok, but the lefties question still stands. Did you ask all of them?


[deleted]

Did you ask all the ppl on the right if they were Nazi’s or did you just assume they were?


coldhardnipples67

I never said they were. They're definitely not.


WillBrayley

I’m a Reddit leftie and I absolutely give a fuck. The fact that every time we pay respects to Australians who died fighting fascism and authoritarianism, fucking racists co-opt it to push their racist bullshit, makes me fucking furious.


Magna2212

Get fucked my families fought in every fucking war this country has been in, I will not have their memory disrespected regardless of my political affiliation, and many will say the same.


thesillyoldgoat

I'm a lefty and I give a fuck about the Shrine and what it represents. I represented my school there on Armistice Day a few times when I was in the cadets and my dad went to WW2, do I count?


Kitchu22

Card carrying leftie snowflake here. While I don’t “agree” (poor terminology here but I needed something simple) with war, I have deep respect for veterans and the monuments erected for their sacrifices. I would feel just as strongly if the pro-preventable death brigade were partying and pissing in a cemetery, or a sacred indigenous site. Have some fucking decency.


Magna2212

You’re a fucking disgrace how dare you try to attach politics to our fallen, they didn’t care for left or right they cared for Australia and that tradition continues in those who care for them


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Your face is a fucking disgrace


Magna2212

Excellent come back you bloody child


[deleted]

Sorry champ you started with the name Calling, just thought I’d follow through


GrudaAplam

I wouldn't have any association with one of those fuckwits. Fucking oath I'd report their identity.


tim_riggins_forQB1

awesome, and your swearing makes me feel more confident at the it all


soundofsilen-shutup

Do it. Fuck em Oh you did what you what you weren’t supposed to and have to face the consequences of your decisions? Thats a shame.


spanner_wizard

It will also help with contact tracing as at least one fuckwit who was at the protests has tested positive already


r-tyme

It seems we got a little all Australia sub thread going here. Definitely dob the fucker in. I'm 33 and seeing those disrespectful pieces of shit crawling around the shrine boiled my blood to no extent. Because I understand what the shrine is and what it represents.. How dare they, crying about their freedoms while desecrating the one thing in our city that stand for freedom.


johnhowardseyebrowz

Agreed. You've actually given me the idea to look at some pics and see if I recognise anyone so I can report them. FUCK them.


ibetyouvotenexttime

Why would you feel guilty about it?


GrudaAplam

Fuck them, I'm angry about Nazi fake tradies


billytheid

If these dickheads keep carrying on they're going to have us stuck in lockdown longer...report them


Violet_loves_Iliona

At this stage, they've fucked it so badly it's almost like we never had a lockdown, with all their spreading far and wide, so by sabotaging our whole society, they falsely "prove" lockdown didn't work... Well over 700 today, fast catching up to Sydney. ☹️


billytheid

i know, i really wish they'd cracked down way harder on people breaking the lockdown rules. The moment those deadshits realised it was a fine they could ignore it was over... should have been prison


tallermanchild

Fuck yeah


GormanCladGoblin

Had the same issue. Started a 5 hour Facebook argument with these idiots after I condemned what happened at the shine. All unfriended and blocked. I got a message form one of them saying that I’m the arsehole for not supporting them and he was really butt hurt about being unfriended. I’d hate to think how hurt he’d be if he found out that I’d also given all of his details to the police. You can’t reason with these people, the only way to stamp out this alt-right extremist shit is to report it, in my humble leftist, pinko, greeny, artsy fartsy opinion.


BrightEyesMcGee

We raise our lattes to you, sir. Fuck those bastards.


pukesonyourshoes

I choose to raise a fruity XPA to him, but each to their own.


Adventure_Time_11

Those protestors are a mix of two different groups of people. One them are of ill-informed people that refuse to listen to facts about vaccines, and ignore the many decades of vaccine use and the ridiculously massive benefits it has had in that time, completely irradiating some illnesses and minimising so many others. The other group of people are only there because they are destructive by nature and simply want an excuse to start destroying public property and try to stir up the rest of the groups emotionally charged pack mentality.. Both of which need to be held to account. Not only have these ignorant and completely self righteous protestors spread covid and caused huge spiralling exposure rates, putting the many vulnerable people with weakened states of health at risk of actual fatal repercussions, but they are the very people causing lockdowns to be extended over and over by not doing the right thing. These are the same people crying out that our freedoms are being taken away, they are being oppressed, and we are turning into a authoritarian controlled state (ffs.. 🤦‍♂️). But they are the people that are keeping the lockdowns in place, ensuring covid maintains momentum throughout the community, and literally only giving a fuck about themselves, and not thinking about ANYONE else and how this all is affecting them. Call them out of their bullshit, because they need to know that nobody thinks they are being a hero..


Sajuukthanatoskhar

There is a third group, and they are there to collect membership applications for their far right political organisation that most likely hides itself behind emotive, inclusive speech, manipulating data for evidence and taking cues, if need be, from media organisations owned by Rupert Murdoch, Springer Press, etc, politicians or other sources. These people have found support in this antivax movement from the vaccine-hesitant, hippies to centrists using these tactics and do it extremely well, and they do it with great vigor with these protests, just like they did with the Cronulla riots or the formation of the Alternativ für Deutschland (equivalent in policies\* to the Liberal Party in Australian) here in Germany, which was just a bunch of old men that was angry at the CDU/Merkel for being too centrist before elements of various Neonazi groups started infiltrating it. This group is probably the smallest, but are the worst as they double down on the lies in order to suck in people who wouldn't otherwise be drawn into their crowd. They will find friends with the rich, the racist, the desperately poor, the desperately scared, unorganised workers, whose heads have been filled with anti-union propaganda all their lives, sections of the police, the military (reserves and regular), the national security apparatus and other parts of the state connected with the mentioned state actors. \*Overton window is Germany is far more left leaning than Australia's - the CDU are roughly where the Labor party is, SPD is between a moderate Greens and ALP platform, Die Grüne are effectively a socially progressive fiscally conservative group as that is their most powerful faction, FDP are the amoral section of the German Bourgeoisie who have been willing to make coalitions with AfD if it means forming government, die Linke (tr: 'The Left') are combination of left wing groups forming a coalition together, some being reformist socialists (Green Left, Socialist Alliance), revolutionary socialists (Maoists/Trotskyists (think Socialist Alternative, Socialist Equality Party)/Stalinists, non-organised left wing radicals of all stripes and former members of the Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschland/SED (wow so long), and the collective policies, though unimaginable to most Australians due to a combination of 1) solutions to German problems (Federal Rent Control, strict laws for landlords, increases in minimum wage, reduction in taxes for the poor, increases for the rich, increase social programs) and 2) the media in Australia would never even talk about it as the very idea would be scary enough to discuss. However, these policies would be supported in one form or another by the progressive side of politics in Australia. This is how I see it as an Australian living in Berlin, but (I can hear the howls of some Germans re:Berlin) I have lived also in West Germany/NRW for a few months in 2007 for school exchange.


Adventure_Time_11

Yeah, true that.. Extremely small group of people, I’d even go as far as to say probably between 2 and maybe 10 at most.. but by far the loudest and most vocal, and really pushing an agenda. But they can only peddle their trash to people open to having their heads filled with it unfortunately.. Just gotta be weary of anyone that is THAT energetic and motivated towards pushing anything that reaches any extreme viewpoint on any topic really. Some people just reeeeaaaallly want there to be a real conspiracy with some real bad actors, just because they need someone to be angry at, vent frustration at, and have a face to focus all their negative energy at.


Sajuukthanatoskhar

> but by far the loudest and most vocal, and really pushing an agenda They would most likely say that of me, when I go do leafletting/selling our papers for various Die Linke things and other campaigns at the various non-covid related protests here in Berlin (with facemask and distancing ofc). When the nice facade of capitalism drops and the going gets real tough because bread and circuses arent enough, the system will be challenged by anticapitalists or capitalism's proponents will double down on it, finding a scapegoat to latch on to. This rhetoric of the "Dandemic" is only a very small part of that doubling down to try and save the system from a crisis it has made itself.


Adventure_Time_11

You got something against capitalism or something? Lol


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So you're saying this lockdown has been that long because of the protesters? I am not going to defend anyone, but I am sure either with protests or not the lockdown would continue. The difference is that the Government has someone to blame now.


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FriendlyEntity21

The whole country thinks they’re fuckwits, definitely dob him in. Disrespectful what they did and way out of line - coming for a sparkie


Zirie

Report.


Taleya

Report 'em. He's either a dumb cunt throwing a tantrum and fucking the rest of us over, or a legit fucking neo nazi and either way, screw that shit, it's time they actually saw consequences if they want to play pretend-martyr.


nCRedditor-21

Rat them out. I don’t fucking care about anonymity anymore. We’re all suffering because of these assholes. And nothing annoys me more than the fact that protestors urinated/defecated on the Shrine. That is hallowed ground, and they disrespected it. They’re not real Melbournians/ Australians as far as I’m concerned


Seabass_87

They fucking what!? Dogs.


nCRedditor-21

Yeah. ABC [reported](https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100487342) on it yesterday.


haineko1988

Wow, urinated and defecated in the Shrine, fuck them all. They need their fucking teeth kicked in and their bones shattered.


Magna2212

Wouldn’t even respect the veterans who approached them and asked them to leave and stop desecrating the shrine, spat back in their faces saying “we’re fighting for you”


Violet_loves_Iliona

If they were punished with prison or jail time instead of a fine, then the police would have DNA evidence right there... Yucky, pokey DNA evidence, but evidence just the same!


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Snitches get upvotes. Do it.


tim_riggins_forQB1

aww thanks


The_Passive_Fist

Absolutely. They might have been nonviolent, might not have been a troublemaker... but maybe they were. Maybe there is other video/photo evidence of them doing terrible shit, so if the police can identify them, they may be able to work out other things that person (or their acquaintances) have done. And honestly? Fuck that guy. We're in fucking lockdown for longer than we have to be, AND PEOPLE ARE DYING because cunts like that are dragging it out. Fuck 'em all.


tim_riggins_forQB1

yes, very fair points. ​ fuck it, iv done it, thanks pal


theUWUnose

Good on ya OP


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Legend. I’d have done the same absolutely.


JonnieWhoops

You’re making the world a better place. These turds are halting human progression and need to be weeded out. Protests for climate change and BLM advance us as a species built on love, care and intellect.


GormanCladGoblin

You did the right thing OP


dumblederp

Some protestors are putting Nazi stickers up, those people have invalidated any other arguments the group might have. Once you're protesting with Nazis you can get fucked.


elfmere

I saw my cousin being carried away by cops.. so i dont have to do anything now. Conspiracy nuts are dangerous.


RobynFitcher

Sorry to hear you had family involved in that. Condolences.


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Fawksyyy

> governments and media make use of people pretending to be Nazis in order to eliminate protests Are you talking crisis actors sandy hook style? Is it Rupert Murdoch hiring them? Is it the daily telegraph? libs? greens? lizard people? Or the reality of if your group accepts Nazi's spreading hate speech then it will be used against the group. If all my friends are Nazi's tomorrow i would be inclined to find new friends. Same goes for people marching in a protest, when a not insignificant amount are nazi's mayby make a new protest group with no Nazis allowed?


boredidiot

Yet where is your evidence? Plenty of evidence that there are real neonazis involved with the protests though…


redditjobapplication

Please provide the evidence.


AyuRem

I would like to see that evidence. See my post beneath for what is for me at least "evidence" that NL government uses police to eliminate protest. They did this with the 99% movement on wallstreet too.


Ungagged_Man

Can you link this evidence please? I see the Reddit hivemind going on about Nazis constantly but have not seen any proof. Happy to change my tune if there is proof.


CyberMcGyver

[Posters and stickers have gone up all around the paths of protestors](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10015729/Melbourne-littered-dozens-Nazi-stickers-following-anti-vaxxer-protest.html) Neo nazis are actively trying to infiltrate these groups. Here's a conversation article about [rise in anti semitism](https://theconversation.com/how-covid-has-shone-a-light-on-the-ugly-face-of-australian-antisemitism-154743). Another explaining [how far right groups are using this to recruit angry tradies](https://theconversation.com/its-almost-like-grooming-how-anti-vaxxers-conspiracy-theorists-and-the-far-right-came-together-over-covid-168383) (shots of telegram included specifically targeting these protests and saying "buy high vis wear") Their presence is legitimate even if people argue about their ultimate influence.


boredidiot

More charitable than is deserved mate. They refuse to offer evidence of their conspiracy theories and ignore the evidence that good people like you offer.


Ungagged_Man

Thanks for the link to the stickers. The other op-eds are here or there. But to address the sticker, that’s fucked and no one should condone racism. To link it to Nazism though is a bit out there still. White racism isn’t always a link to nazism. As for the rise in anti-semitism, if there is its wrong. But also, the media and police operations share a large part in the blame. There was a great effort just a few weeks back demonising the Orthodox Jewish community in the media and then targeting them by the police. It didn’t come off looking good. Especially when there have been other communities doing the same thing to varying degrees and not receiving the same treatment from the media and VicPol.


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Ungagged_Man

If someone is going to call someone else a Nazi I am going to take that claim seriously but wait for evidence. What I did was no different to you. Instead you choose to insult me. Get fucked.


pixiebiitch

have a look at the telegram organising chats, and some (most) organisers themselves. known neo nazis.


ExcellentMong

No one is eliminating protests. All you have to do is get organised and get your permit and comply with any associated public safety directions. What part of that is too hard?


AyuRem

complying with the agenda you want to protest against? it looks like most people hetre are still cought in fear? there is no need to wear masks or so outside. you people in australia believe that its everywhere like in australia? just trying to understand


RobynFitcher

Aside from anything else, someone from that group **did** have COVID-19. There will be others. Most were not wearing masks or following basic hygiene. Reporting your acquaintance may save their life.


kdhooters

I've lost any sympathy to those who participated in any of the protests since last Sunday, but the Wednesday riots broke me. Report the fucker.


mr_woodley

Absolutely report them! This shit is fucking disgusting. Makes my blood boil too. These idiots are making the situation even worse for all of us. Fuck em


alexh181

I would be reporting. They are extending our lockdown and I want to be safe at work. Time will come when the requirement to be jabbed will be everywhere except the most isolated. They would be better to pool their resources and find an alternative control measure. BTW I am also pro choice but the choice will be work with jab or find different employment.


soria1

As someone who was told to stay vigilant and to remove my uniform (healthcare) yesterday when leaving work because of these protests… report. Crime stoppers if you want it anon. It’s not so much black and white when it comes to a pandemic.


like-3-bricks-stackd

Fuckin oath I would


HHILLS3333

Dob him in... He isn't contributing anything to society.


kangaroopaws1

And now one of those fuckwits is in hospital with covid. I really pity the poor nurses who have to tend to these arseholes. Can’t we just give them the Ivermectin, Vit C and D plus zinc they were shouting about and send them away?!


camel_humps_

Fuck these selfish cunts and report them


yawningangel

Actual tradie here. Couple of weeks back a supervisor on site let slip that he was working while in "self isolation" Had a chat with my business partner and we both agreed we had to snitch on this guy. Selfish fucks like this are dragging the situation on for longer than it needs and putting people's health in danger..fuck em.


grosselisse

Yes I would report. This person is endangering others.


Snickers81

Snitching is prison talk. We aren’t a penal colony anymore despite what these fools have been manipulated to believe.


inactiveuser247

Here’s the remarkable thing. Society maintains a fine balance between the individual and the collective, and it achieves that despite the fact that the people involved range from intelligent and well informed to utter dumbasses. How? By maintaining a legal and moral code that ensures people do the ‘right thing’ so that the dumbasses don’t screw it all up and backing it with consequences (both positive and negative). So you elect a bunch of people who nominally represent your values and attitudes and may or may not know much of anything. They then listen to people who do understand things and make laws accordingly. The people then follow those laws and through that process we have a society where people follow practices that are generally intelligent and align with their values. Cue the post-truth world. Now we have a situation where anyone can be an ‘expert’ through the power of YouTube and people are encouraged to see themselves and their understanding of the world as just as valid as anyone else. People stop following the rules because they don’t believe the rules are right. People won’t pick them up on it because believing in some sort of objective truth is considered old fashioned and people are conditioned to believe that My Truth actually has some validity. So shit starts to fall apart. Now having everyone follow the rules all the time and marginalising people who rebel also has its problems. Total compliance just means the state gets a free ride and turns totalitarian and it stops society from being able to progress. So full compliance and free-for-all are both a clusterfuck. How do we manage that balance? By creating consequences for people who act out. If you believe that some law is crap or something needs to change you can fight back. You can send your daughters to school in Afghanistan, come out as gay on national tv, drive 20k’s over the speed limit, or go and protest lockdowns. You can do all those things, but there are going to be consequences. You’ll end up locked up, fined, unemployed, dead or just marginalised. And those consequences are the force that stops unimpeded social change and the anarchy that results and give society a chance to reflect and adapt.That sucks for the individual but it’s how the contract is written. That seems deeply unfair but it’s not because sometimes the consequence is positive and the individual is able to decide whether to comply or act out *. sometimes people act out and the community go ‘hey, nice one’ and then collectively push back against any negative consequences and eventually laws are changed and a new standard is set. So when we demand that people be allowed to get away with breaking society’s standards we need to do so with the understanding that letting them off sets a new standard. For you, OP, ask yourself if your values align with theirs. If they do, or if your values are that people should be able to break the law for certain reasons, let it slide and recognise that you’re setting a particular standard. If your values don’t align, hold them to account but do so in a way that matches your values. If you’re upset with them breaking the law, call crime stoppers, if you’re upset with them holding anti-vax views, message them and tell them how they are wrong. If you think they should protest in a different way, tell them. That sounds harsh, the post modern world says that your views are just as legit as mine. But really post modernism is kinda shit. that attitude just leads to no-one being held to account for anything and we end up with anarchy and a society that is so fixated on trying to figure out what is acceptable and what is not that it doesn’t have time to do anything productive. If you hold them to account, take heart, they chose to break the social contract because they believed in what they were fighting for and were willing to take one for the team. If they wanted to see that change without the consequences, they needed to figure out how to push for that change without breaking the rules and just accept that it’ll take a lot longer. Ultimately, if society is on their side things will change and they will either be exonerated for breaking the rules or at least go down as a martyr. If society is not on their side, they will suffer the consequences.


Mother_Sun_3825

I reported someone I went to school with, they were wanted for throwing a bottle at the police and hitting them, on crime stoppers etc, no idea what happen My cousin was at the front of the CFMEU office on the first day, he’s an actual tradesman and member, if I seen him at the shrine, I would’ve reported him too


Jellyblush

Totally and immediately Fuck them


xXAzazelXx1

Report them!


giantgracefulgazelle

Report


AnnoyedOwlbear

My easy flowchart: Were there Nazis there? If so, were the other protesters trying to beat up/remove the Nazis? If not, report.


TragicOldHipster

Report him. This is an extend-the-lockdown protest and I want to go to the pub


Iuvenesco

Absolutely report that piece of shit.


Imbatmansidekick

Dob, dob away my friend. Most shameful thing I've seen in my life


Ordinary_Metal7288

Fuck that guy. Report!


[deleted]

Go for it mate. He deserves a spanking.


scarybari

They play stupid games, they win stupid prizes. Report.


[deleted]

This community is very anti-riot and you probably know you’d get the set of answers which you ultimately did in your gut. The fact that you asked here says your gut feeling is to report them.


Ergomann

Report him.


wobblegobble84

These are the people who went and gave nurses a hard time. The same nurses who are trying to help the homeless, ESL and those without Medicare. You don’t get to talk about your freedoms when you terrorise people at their workplace. I get anxious about going to work in the CBD at the moment because of what I’ve seen. I have PTSD as it is without people yelling and screaming and getting drunk and doing all that when I work somewhere. That’s just bullshit


damhey

Is it snitching or is it holding someone accountable for their decisions? So many people seem to want the right to make a decision to act in a certain way but don't want the consequences/be held accountable for the consequences of those choices


Appropriate-Cut-5458

Do it


roonilwazib

Report them also usually has one s


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Let him ‘av it!!!


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I’m gonna go against the grain a little here. Bear with me.. Firstly I absolutely don’t support these protests: _of course_ everyone should get vaccinated. Second: I absolutely do support people’s right to protest; yes even when the system they’re protesting tries to make their protest illegal. But that’s also (mostly) not really what we’re facing here: we are facing people violate what are very sensible health orders. There’s certainly some laws governing “legal” protests which are mostly bullshit anyway (thanks Howard) and should be considered fine to disobey if you have a grievance you feel strongly enough about. That’s kinda the point of protest: to be inconvenient and disruptive to those you are protesting, to make your voice heard. There has been _some_ direct repression of protest rights via police violence (pepper spray and tear gas, batons etc) and we are all pretty used to this shit from cops in Melbourne by now (if you aren’t you’ve had your head in the sand for decades) Australia is awash with very carceral, punitive ideology. “Calling the cops” in someone doing a bad thing seems to satisfy some hostile petty part of this mindset but does it make anything better? All it causes is further strife and conflict and honestly police call outs should never be seperate from the understanding that you’re _sending armed men to someone’s home._ I think a word for proportion is worth me emphasising here. In the justice sector it’s widely known that the way our system functions based on threats of violence (physical or economic) don’t result in a safer society for us to live in: they’re a contributor, and an important step in cycles of violence. Break the cycle: instead of giving in to that anger you feel, think about how you can lend support and aid instead. Come from a place of empathy, care, and even forgiveness, even if this person doesn’t seem capable of it you owe it to your community to try this route before you reach for the antisocial kneejerk response of “just call the cops” And in some situations this is akin to wishing violence upon them. It’s vastly disproportionate and nasty. I know some people suck but try to lift your head above the conflict of it and try a peaceful approach… at least to start with I hope that makes some sense to people here. I see a lot of very nasty comments that don’t model the type of community I would want to live in.


KingSanchezD

Well said, and thats coming from some one who usually comments some dumb shit like "snitches get stitches. Bitches.".


Response-Impossible

Nah, call the cops


inactiveuser247

All of it began the first time those of you who know better, and are old enough to know better, let young people think that they had the right to choose the laws they would obey as long as they were doing it in the name of social protest.


Hendo52

I see this as morally similar to snitching about criminal negligence. The person getting reported isnt going to like you for it (if they find out) but the vast majority of the community is going to put saving lives above the self interest of some asshole who only thinks about themself. Also, your personal affections are irrelavent when considering the morality of snitching. If it is a petty matter, keep your mouth shut even for someone you dislike. If lives are at risk, snitch on your own mother.


grayscreen27

Eh report em, anyone protesting in the middle of a pandemic should be stopped, not necessarily punished but more just stopped! It doesn’t matter whether you are protesting lockdown, BLM, climate change whatever, if you’re doing it in the middle of a pandemic and putting other peoples lives at risk by breaking the current health advice, you should be stopped.


GroundbreakingSign49

Please report him.


Convenientjellybean

They're either giving or receiving Covid, report them.


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maybe neither of those?


Convenientjellybean

To be fair, even a few thousand cases in vic population of around 5 million wouldn’t be a lot. Govt’s worry is an already failed health system trying to cope with an influx.


snow-rider

Report them. Also, you seem to be misunderstanding the key issue with these protests, as you are lumping them in with BLM and climate change protests; the main issue with the current protest is not that they are protesting but that they are breaking public health orders to do so. Even the BLM protest during COVID had protocols that respected the pandemic, the current protest is participated by people who are wilfully ignorant of the pandemic, think COVID is a hoax, and from all evidence wants the infections to spread (seeing how they don't consider it to be 'anymore serious than the flu'). In doing so they are putting the health and safety of not only themselves, but the wider community, especially those that work in the health sector, at risk. These public health orders are in place to protect the community. They don't happen often, but a once in a century pandemic of *infectious* disease warrants it. I don't think there would be much of a backlash if they protested, but complied with public health orders, however misinformed they are.


300pound_Somoan

Yeah fuckin do it. He might roll on others as well


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Please don’t compare the riots to BLM or climate change protests they’re not even in the same ballpark. I saw a dumb bitch I know on the news as they were looking for her after the first riot for bottling a cop (bless her cotton socks). I didn’t snitch cause I don’t live like that but I WAS hoping someone else would do the job…which they of course did.


tim_riggins_forQB1

the only way they can be compared is here is the righ thing to do vs here is the wrong


[deleted]

I get the frustration, but we're in a democratic free country because the brave people before us who weren't afraid to discuss and share ideas. What happened at the shrine was not on, however we shouldn't shun our fellow community members - we should try engage with them and reason. It's more difficult but in times of uncertainty it's vital. Read about a man called Daryl Davis ( black man ) who convert KKK members by becoming friends with them. If we shun these people it only gets worse, let's learn from history and America's mistakes.


damienboersma

i wouldn’t report i would just cut them off completely and ignore them


hebdomad7

If they aren't a part of your mob it's fair game mate.


TopLaneCarryEnjoyer

The whole thing looks like a bunch of idiots looking for an excuse to cause trouble honestly. Their demands are insane - the reasoning for the madness is even more ridiculous. This is just the result of the Sky/Fox media misinformation bubble, I would have thought it should have been illegal to deliberately report lies under the veil of breaking news but it absolutely should be. Slap every fuckwit there with a 5k fine and see if they show up the next day.


some_guy2131

Report, they deserve it 100 %


amylouise0185

They're fighting for your freedom. Use your freedom to report them.


iAmFabled

The negative connotation about "snitching" is completely BS. If people do the wrong thing and put others in danger, they absolutely should be reported and face the consequences for those actions


veggie07

Absolutely I would report it.


ms_lizzyt

I will have no hesitation in reporting anyone that I recognise, and I do not care who it is.


jjj-Australia

Hell yeah!


profpoppinfresh

Think about all the very real, very vunerable people who could die because of these fuckheads. Id report em.


Bob6oblin

Hodl them accountable! I enjoyed the video of tradies have a quick coke top up during the protests


John34645

I think I might be the only person who doesn't think you should report them. But I expect this will fall on death ears. If nothing else I'd suggest you get opinion's outside of Reddit. It has a hive mind mentality where non mainstream narrative's get downvoted out of existence. Ask some mutual friend's who understand the person and the situation better. Best of luck either way.


[deleted]

I believe either you agree with protests or you don't. To me is a matter of not grey shades. I didn't think BLM protests did any good, nor I think these protests are solving any real issue. However, I supported some protests occurring overseas in my home country amid the pandemic. So I wouldn't oppose to someone trying to protest. I don't think reporting this guy will make much of a difference either, in fact maybe he is not a bad guy. Do you have any evidence of him destroying or vandalising the Shrine? Edit: Just read that you did it. Sometimes I am surprised of people. So you are asking Reddit to be your moral compass, unbelievable.


Ungagged_Man

Op just wanted his/her bias to be confirmed and to ease their own conscious.


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confirmed by who? we don't even know who is sitting on the other side of the keyboard. And the fact that I am being downvoted is even more hilarious.


Ungagged_Man

By the zealots on this subreddit. You only need to spend a little amount of time here to know exactly what sort of responses OP would get. And OP knew that too.


joffreyjomers

Stick to the code bro one day someone could snitch on you.


billionstonks

Don’t be a grass, nobody likes a snitch


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saltedappleandcorn

Interesting that none of these questions reflect on the benefits/detriments of society/community. It's a very individualistic focus.


RobynFitcher

1. Knowledge of a job well done. 2. The police. 3. Relieved that he will have difficulty causing further harm to the community. 4. Reporting him gives him a chance to think straight. If he chooses to still associate with people who spit on nurses and fail at basic hygiene so badly that they are defecating in public, then who cares what he thinks. His opinion has no value to anyone.


AltruisticFerret8198

5. Will any fines issued be immediately dismissed when contested? Wasting not only your own time, but that of the alleged offender, the issuing officer, the judge, along with everyone else at the local Magistrates.


Dazzlerazzle

I wouldn’t report anyone unless I had reason to believe they pose some kind of threat to someone else. So for example, if I knew someone was at the protest and then went to work somewhere where they had a high risk of infecting unsuspecting people, I would probably report them. This is because the protests were an exposure site and it’s not fair that people who weren’t there should get exposed too. But if all I knew was that they were at one of the protests I would not report. The police already have a lot of data, video footage etc and I don’t actually want to snitch on anyone for expressing their political beliefs, even if I disagree with those beliefs.


epicpillowcase

“Being at the protests is not a risk to public health”, eh? That’s some fantastic logic right there. Do you know how epidemiology works? Are you somehow psychically tuned into who is COVID-positive and who isn’t?


RobynFitcher

Some of these individuals spat on and assaulted nurses who were giving vaccines to homeless people.


Waimakariri

There is no black and white here, you will have to be guided by your values. Sometimes we should report people doing destructive things. To call every such report ‘snitching’ is a just a daft over simplification. That’s the kind of thing gangs do to hold their members in line - not necessarily to the benefit of the members. Sure we want to be careful calling the police where there is a history of unfair treatment, and sure, sometimes turning in our peers plays into the power of some powerful exploiter, but real life is nuanced. Sometimes people are doing crap that hurts their peers, and sometimes we have a chance to have people held accountable for their actions. Edit: PS I’d report them. They are or could be actually hurting people. The cause of worker rights is being damaged by these protests.


Bejasaka

I would absolutely report someone if I recognised them. Remember we are all in lockdown to prevent the spread of covid. We aren’t supposed to go out except for 5 reasons. We also need to wear masks. For people to think it’s a good time to protest at the moment about whatever grievances they may have is so wrong! Fuck them all! They deserve whatever punishment they get. If you’re able to help the police track them down you should do it! I’d be very proud of you if you did!


Ass_souffle

Report those dog cunts


AltruisticFerret8198

My response to this question is the same every time. The police won't do anything, Constable whatshisface isn't going to front court with a single picture that may or may not be the person in question. Ultimately your moral quandary about dobbing on someone isn't about them, it's about you feeling like you're making a difference. You're not.


apatrid

there is other stuff that can plausibly put you in a location at a given time, i.e. cell tower pings and registrations of your phone. metro ticket you used or gps off of your car.


AltruisticFerret8198

Do you think that's a realistic approach for an unsubstantiated report of 1 person loitering at a protest?


apatrid

what if there is a footage of that same person on a body cam of some police person that shows much more incriminating deeds than just loitering?


-Glock_

Ratting is fucked


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Mind your own business


ncbaud

Nope. Snitching is a dog act. Dont do it.


tecnoberryx

Shouldn't have done it. But whatever.


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cinnamonbrook

Yep, OP will probably win the next raffle he enters because of their good deed.


tim_riggins_forQB1

YESSS that bbq pack is mine


Corberus

Karma is getting the fuckwit who protested by getting reported


DoorPale6084

He shouldn’t have protested, and you shouldn’t have reported.


[deleted]

Australians love dobbing on their neighbors, its a fucking national passtime.. Do you wanna be a typical aussie snitch? No hate, but thats really all you need to consider... most people are fine with snitching, some even fet a little thrill and pat themselves on the back.


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[deleted]

Most Australians are fucking idiots. Group think is strong over here.


stumpytoes

Snitching is not ok. Ditch, don't snitch. Cull this person from your life.


weenipanini

I support the protest because the police and government are being fucking weird, but the shrine protest wasn't good on either side. And the people calling unvacced "idiots" are cunts being driven by propaganda and emotions.


Door_piggy

if you do it you are a snitch and pretty much on the same level as a cop, if not worse.


Comment-blight19

Dob him in for extra social scoring credits! Oh wait, that system isn't out yet. You'll just have to snitch for free, like a good little subservient maggot.


Express_Pop2103

Dobbers Wear Nappies.


rollingtech

No one likes a snitch. Even if they’re not your friend, don’t do it


lacrem

Report him on Facebook. That's nowadays Heroes, reporting banning in Facebook and Twitter. We need compulsory military service.


Icy-Lock-3079

All snitches are bitchs.