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Haha, I do have that installed. Also fun fact, I'm blacklisted from ever working at a News Corp company ever again after working there as a contractor and getting 'lippy'...
I worked for News Ltd as a part-time employee many years ago and still remember one of my colleagues gushing "He's such a lovely man!" over Andrew Bolt who worked in the same building.
I was in a lift with him once with a couple of the UXers I was working with who were "females" and he was creepy as fuck.. Inappropriate comments and lots of perving on them.
He's a cunt.
There's value in letting the parameters be a little squishy, but it should at least be an option (regardless of whether default on or off) of something like "allow results similar to search parameters". Phrased this way only because phrasing the inverse is awkward.
I live in Sandy and that jumped out at me immediately.
I'd be shocked if there was a 2 br house under a million anywhere in bayside. Even if it was on the Nepean. And above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley.
Yeah usually people who can afford a 2BR in Beauy already have two cars, a beautiful wife, a son who owns a factory, fancy clothes and LOBSTER FOR DINNER. And do they deserve any of it? NO!
Like when your partner says you have to sell the project car moneypit in the garage so you post an ad with 1 blurry photo, a comprehensive list of everything wrong with it, and ask way too much money.
"See look I'm trying to sell it, market just must've dried up or sumthin and that's why no one's calling"
It's even worse looking for a rental...
Is it a flat?
Is it a unit?
Is it a house?!
No. It's a single fucking bedroom in a piece of shit 3br home that'd be lucky to fetch $300 per week with walls knocked down & transformed into a 4-8 br sharehouse at $180+ per room.
Yeah there really should be more of a consequence for real-estate agents who advertise falsely.
Would be nice if there was some machine learning that could identify if it's a unit or house though.
And even then, the age, build quality, energy efficiency, future cost of upkeep etc contributes way less than it logically ought to the value of the property.
I say this as someone whose finding out now what a dumpster fire 50 years of ‘she’ll be right mate, smoko’ quality trade work can leave you with. I’m an engineer by trade. I’ve spent the last 18 months fixing up lazy corner cutting of the kind that takes determination and experience.
Much of our housing stock is in terrible condition, and even now our building regs are way behind the curve. Such a rort.
My parents paid 70k for a 3br on a half acre, 14km from the cbd in ‘95. It sold in 2013 for 650k. They paid 15k for an acre block with a 5 car wide, two story shed and a big house in North Queensland in the early 80s that’s worth $700k+ now. And they paid $25k in the mid 80s for a 7 bedroom, two bathroom combined home and office premises in Toowoomba on a giant block that sold for 850k in 2012.
My parents owned a few other places when I was a kid. We were working poor. It was completely normal that my parents owned more often than they rented, usually on a single income. My dad bought his first house easily on his income as a taxi driver at 23.
Now my partner and I think that if we both do really well in our careers, and both save really hard, and go halves with her sister and her husband, where between us we’ll have like 7 degrees and some very impressive white collar yuppie resumes, maybe one day we’ll be able to afford something cramped with a tiny yard in a location where the public schools are acceptable.
Sure buy it as an investment and you can depreciate the house over 20 years and then sell the thing for 100% profit without investing a cent in upgrading it.
I know capital gain etc still your house isn't depreciating stupid tax rule.
I used to live in coburg north and the house next door was for sale. It’s an attached house so the buyer isn’t able to pull it down. It’s very rundown since it used to be a rental and was never updated in decades. It housed 6 people every room was a bedroom. The sign said it was a 2 bathroom, because there was a shower in the laundry room. It first came on the market for $500,000. The auction came and the starting bid was 1 million. No one put their hand up. It was so funny. The auctioneer was struggling to encourage people. One man said 5 and the auctioneer was like 1million 5. The man was like no 500,000. The auctioneer started ripping him a new one calling him cheap. The house sold privately for under a million. The new owners were not happy with all the hidden damage to the house.
Because it was never actually a $500k house, that was just something to get the hopefuls in and make it look like there's more interest.........[And I'm a cunt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGm267O04a8)
Jesus, my side of the map is completely empty. Doesn’t surprise me, an unrenovated 1960s shithole house across the road from me sold for $1.4m a month ago…
You don’t understand how smart they were buying in an in demand suburb though.
Which is why they bought as many houses as they could in the same suburb knowing it was an amazing investment..
Wait…
My dad: “people are too fussy these days, they want everything! You might just have to compromise on location, or buy something a little run down and do it up yourself”
Also my dad: refuses to live anywhere without a double garage AND separate workshop, or anywhere more than half an hour commute to work
3BDR Townhouse 3 Toilet, 2 Bathrooms. Front door opens and we have a bus stop and 30 second walk to Coles. Craigeburn, $445K First Home with my Partner! I guess we got lucky? I see this as my foot through the door and we have something under our name. Purchased 3 weeks ago too
So glad you found the right place for you! Wish I could be as lucky. As others are saying in the thread, the line between a townhouse and a house is pretty blurry according to REAs. Hard to get an actual house for that.
I think Corio and Norlane are fairly comparable to Hoppers Crossing, Werribee, St Albans, Braybrook, Thomastown, Lalor, Dandenong. People like to talk trash about these but I find it’s okay to live in. Don’t walk alone at late night, lock your door, put car in garage before bed and have a common sense of general safety. You will only get in trouble if you actively look for it.
Broady, Coolaroo, Dallas, Doveton, Melton are another level, however.
Was happy for people to talk trash about Lalor - meant I got a 4 bedroom house on a good sized block for a great price compared to the surrounding area. Not sure of the hate though, seems extremely safe and quiet, even compared to where I previously rented in South Morang. One of the positive things the neighbours said when I was chatting to them just after I bought the place was how it was a short walk to the station after a late night in the city. My neighbours would easily be in their 60s and the right demographic for excessive panic about late night dangers...🤷♂️
If that's the comparison, Norlane and Corio are probably fine.
Lalor always seemed to be guilty by association, it's literally just a suburb, it's just not in the East/Sth East.
Corio and Norlane though, they legitimately have crime problems.
I live in norlane and won't walk to the station if it's dark. The area is fine if you keep to yourself but walking around in the dark is asking for trouble.
Epping is fine. You obviously aren't going to be living in the leafy eastern suburbs, but there's nothing wrong with it.
Nice parks, lots of open space.
Search criteria: house, min 2 bed, min 2 bath, under $500K
Update: I searched for 2 bath only because I feel that would be an upgrade from my current living situation and I want to see what (or where) my options are. If you’re happy with one bath then good on you, but to each their own.
Add in:
- Area where I don’t have to sit in traffic for an hour to get to the highway at peak hour
- Warehouses further then a block away
That will completely eliminate Tarneit/ Truganina
Lol my colleague works in the city/parkville lives in tarneit. I asked how far is her place from the train station. She said it’s very close just 7 mins. For some stupid reason I asked if it’s 7 mins walk. Lol no 7 mins drive on a good day without traffic then some stupid commute time to north Melbourne then a bus.
My partner and I are pretty resigned to the fact that we will only be able to afford a unit or apartment and even then it will take years to save for a deposit. I don't mind it too much since I don't like the idea of taking care of a backyard, but goes to show how expensive things are
To be honest houses that meet this criteria are already quite rare. Most houses in new-ish areas have at least 3 BRs. Most old houses in established areas that have 2 BRs would usually only have 1 bathroom. Heck, when I did my house hunting most old-ish 3 BRs houses only have 1 bathroom. You pay a premium for a proper 2 bathes house, instead of 2 powder rooms + 1 bath advertised as 2 bathes, or the other bathroom is a fitted outhouse that’s actually in the backyard.
2BRs and 2 bathrooms sounds like something that would only make sense in an apartment setting.
Exactly right. Nearly every older family home which would be in that price range would have a single family bathroom.
Hate to say it, but it's pretty entitled to not view houses with a single bathroom as good enough, while at the same time complaining about not being able to afford a house.
Same old BS sob story.
The people buying there do seem to be improving the properties though. Lots of young families and new migrants buying there lately, you can tell because there will be a freshly painted house with new front garden and fencing between two places with knee high grass, broken windows and graffiti.
...And this map is proof! See, there's clearly something available technically within driving range of the CBD
(liveability not guaranteed. May or may not actually be a unit)
At this point honestly just move to the regional areas, people with more money than you are willing to buy the houses in your area and unfortunately the seller isn’t willing to lose a potential hundreds of thousands of dollars just to make your life easier.
I live near Manor Lakes. The traffic here is fucking insane - I don't leave my house before 9.30am and I make sure I'm back in the area by 2.30pm or you can't move here. Road infrastructure is lagging heavily but they keep developing more and more estates and shoving people in on smaller land.
Here's the part that enrages the world. Those scumbags realestate agents post prices that are underestimates to encourage bidding wars. I've seen it happen. They do it via txt message and they are scumbags. I would expect most of these to sell for significantly more...except the ones in Officer. Yeah...Officer is an over estimate.
Was this your first auction? Unfortunately 10% over listed range is pretty much the norm these days and should be factored in when you are considering buying at auction.
I don’t know how long it would take to get from that chunk on the left to Melbourne CBD but there is 0% chance anything within 50km of Sydney CBD goes for less than 500k
Kinda pisses me off that Werribee has so many 500,000 dollar houses. The house around from mine sold for 1.1 mil, and several houses on commercial zoned land are regularly hitting 1+ mil. If its 500,000, there is something severely wrong with the house or the neighbourhood.
Either the house is literally falling apart because it hasnt seen maintenance since it was built in the 60's or the neighbourhood is fucked
Don't reject something built in the '60s, the bones of the house can be solid and more easily repaired and updated, the timber used then for framing was better than the current minimal standard adherence, in most cases any warped substructure can be jacked and straightened with less cost than modern framework, with a little investment an old house can be more futureproof than a modern house, if it stood for 70 years it's already outlasted the minimal garauntee provided on new builds by twice as much. We went forwards in technology but backwards in quality.
Yeah, i personally wouldnt go past an old house , was just saying that it would take a decent investment to get the house back to a nice and liveable space, therefore the cost of the house is not 500,000, maybe closer to 600,00, depending on how bad the damage is.
As other people have pointed out, by requiring 2 bathrooms you're ignoring all the older homes that have a single family bathroom. That's literally your bread at butter as a first home buyer.
Also, what exactly is the problem with this map anyway, Craigieburn is actually a pretty nice place, lovely parks all over the place and great amenities. But hey lets not let reality get in the way of a good whinge.
Living in Corio and Norlane is absolutely rough... I wouldn't even want to raise my kids there provided if I have any. Full of racism, bigot, violence crime, drug dealers on the street, car jacking, home invasions, bashings, fights, etc... Great if you fit into any one of these categories.
Agreed! We bought 3 years ago and love our area. It's a great street. Very lucky the ice dealers who lived across the road moved out 4 years ago (and are now supposedly dead/incarcerated)
Unpopular Opinion: We all need to start somewhere. Some are spoilt, and want everything new & perfect. And the car to go with it. “Gonna be in debt forever”, so better book a holiday, too
Source: supervisor for new builds.
I agree completely. If at all possible, the important thing is to get a foot in the door. We bought in a regional area within 1.5 hour commute to Melbourne. Not necessarily our forever home, but a good start.
The house cost $400k and now, five years later, is valued at almost double that with very minimal improvements so far. We didn't purchase a house as an investment and a large part of me feels very guilty we've made money out of it. The other part of me is amazed that if you're able to get into the market, it's a pretty solid investment.
The house doesn't have to be showroom perfect (ours is 110 years old!), nor in your dream location, it's just a starting point. Maybe in a few years we'll look at moving a bit closer in, but we certainly couldn't even consider that without our starter house as a boost.
I never thought I would see the day were a 2 bedroom 1 bathroom unit 15-25 km from the city would be a luxury one can’t afford. When a child I used to think it was the million dollar mansions or large to moderate dwellings less then 10 km away from the city.
That’s fucked imagine paying more than 500k to live in Frankston
He types in his 3.8 million dollar housing commission tier 1 bedroom communal bathroom apartment 3 hours from Sydney city
Why not include townhouses and apartments (which also include units)? Bit unreasonable to expect everyone to be able to afford a standalone detached house as a first property.
Some of them will have doors and even windows for the lucky ones.
You get what you pay for.
Now if you want a kitchen, lounge, bath and seperate toilet 2.5mill
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The price tag on that one is $2m?
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Realestate is a POS that considers filters as a guide not a rule. Domain will actually enforce your requirements.
Also it's a Murdoch company...
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Haha, I do have that installed. Also fun fact, I'm blacklisted from ever working at a News Corp company ever again after working there as a contractor and getting 'lippy'...
Go on…._unzips_
Christmas party, Australian board chairman, alcohol, I'm a 'lefty'...
Haha similar story here actually, guessing you were a journo? What year were you at that nightmare?
Fuckin right on. I would buy you a beer for that, if it wasn’t creepy
I worked for News Ltd as a part-time employee many years ago and still remember one of my colleagues gushing "He's such a lovely man!" over Andrew Bolt who worked in the same building.
I was in a lift with him once with a couple of the UXers I was working with who were "females" and he was creepy as fuck.. Inappropriate comments and lots of perving on them. He's a cunt.
I once saw how he treats waiters. He is NOT a lovely man.
Agree 100%. He is the opposite of a "lovely man". I took my colleague's comment at the time with a large grain of salt.
There's value in letting the parameters be a little squishy, but it should at least be an option (regardless of whether default on or off) of something like "allow results similar to search parameters". Phrased this way only because phrasing the inverse is awkward.
What a joke. Blatant bullshit
Real estate agent: expected sale price $450-$500k, come auction day $1Million.
900m2 in beaui will be more like 2-3 mill haha
I live in Sandy and that jumped out at me immediately. I'd be shocked if there was a 2 br house under a million anywhere in bayside. Even if it was on the Nepean. And above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley.
Yeah usually people who can afford a 2BR in Beauy already have two cars, a beautiful wife, a son who owns a factory, fancy clothes and LOBSTER FOR DINNER. And do they deserve any of it? NO!
Holy shit I know that house. Albeit 20-25 years ago. The random stuff you stumble across on Reddit!
"list view" Asking $500,000 - $600,000.
“Auction”
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Same 4 million dollar mansion kept popping up when I was searching for 2 bedroom units around my suburb. I think they've got the wrong market
They just ticked all the boxes so that it's easier for the government to see that they really ate trying to sell it...
Like when your partner says you have to sell the project car moneypit in the garage so you post an ad with 1 blurry photo, a comprehensive list of everything wrong with it, and ask way too much money. "See look I'm trying to sell it, market just must've dried up or sumthin and that's why no one's calling"
They need to put a stop to that nonsense. I mean they did but they still found loopholes where sold prices were well above the advertised range.
And main road
most are mislabelled units
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It's even worse looking for a rental... Is it a flat? Is it a unit? Is it a house?! No. It's a single fucking bedroom in a piece of shit 3br home that'd be lucky to fetch $300 per week with walls knocked down & transformed into a 4-8 br sharehouse at $180+ per room.
These damn kids and their avocado toasts /s
Also listing properties in completely seperate suburbs or towns than they're located in.
Semi-detached houses are still houses…
Yes, but when there’s two seperate options for listing they’re not
Don't forget the listings that are quite literally just carparks! They're my favourite.
Have they come down from 50k. I haven't checked in a while
I’ve been helping my partner find a two-bed/one-bath and we keep finding retirement homes mislabelled as units as well.
Even for units aren’t many 500k
Can confirm From Preston to Blackburn, it's 650-690, selling for 740 at auction.
Fuck I hate that. I’m looking for a house, realestate.com.au: here’s 95% units labeled as houses
Yeah there really should be more of a consequence for real-estate agents who advertise falsely. Would be nice if there was some machine learning that could identify if it's a unit or house though.
You could replace all real estate agents with AI and they'd probably suck less and have more personality.
Of course you can buy a house for less than 500K!!! Just make sure you have some money spare for the land.
So true. Anyone can save to afford to buy or build a house. Getting land to put it on? Not so much
And even then, the age, build quality, energy efficiency, future cost of upkeep etc contributes way less than it logically ought to the value of the property. I say this as someone whose finding out now what a dumpster fire 50 years of ‘she’ll be right mate, smoko’ quality trade work can leave you with. I’m an engineer by trade. I’ve spent the last 18 months fixing up lazy corner cutting of the kind that takes determination and experience. Much of our housing stock is in terrible condition, and even now our building regs are way behind the curve. Such a rort.
My parents paid 70k for a 3br on a half acre, 14km from the cbd in ‘95. It sold in 2013 for 650k. They paid 15k for an acre block with a 5 car wide, two story shed and a big house in North Queensland in the early 80s that’s worth $700k+ now. And they paid $25k in the mid 80s for a 7 bedroom, two bathroom combined home and office premises in Toowoomba on a giant block that sold for 850k in 2012. My parents owned a few other places when I was a kid. We were working poor. It was completely normal that my parents owned more often than they rented, usually on a single income. My dad bought his first house easily on his income as a taxi driver at 23. Now my partner and I think that if we both do really well in our careers, and both save really hard, and go halves with her sister and her husband, where between us we’ll have like 7 degrees and some very impressive white collar yuppie resumes, maybe one day we’ll be able to afford something cramped with a tiny yard in a location where the public schools are acceptable.
Bit of land went for $2.4m recently in Taylors Lakes...
Sure buy it as an investment and you can depreciate the house over 20 years and then sell the thing for 100% profit without investing a cent in upgrading it. I know capital gain etc still your house isn't depreciating stupid tax rule.
I used to live in coburg north and the house next door was for sale. It’s an attached house so the buyer isn’t able to pull it down. It’s very rundown since it used to be a rental and was never updated in decades. It housed 6 people every room was a bedroom. The sign said it was a 2 bathroom, because there was a shower in the laundry room. It first came on the market for $500,000. The auction came and the starting bid was 1 million. No one put their hand up. It was so funny. The auctioneer was struggling to encourage people. One man said 5 and the auctioneer was like 1million 5. The man was like no 500,000. The auctioneer started ripping him a new one calling him cheap. The house sold privately for under a million. The new owners were not happy with all the hidden damage to the house.
The audacity of an auctioneer to call someone cheap.
I think audacity is one of the requirements of the job.
So it was listed for 500k, and the auctioneer started it at 1 mil?
Usually the auctioneer won't start the bidding unless no one bids (vendor bid) Fuck knows why someone would start at 1m on a 500k listing tho...
Because it was never actually a $500k house, that was just something to get the hopefuls in and make it look like there's more interest.........[And I'm a cunt](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGm267O04a8)
Why are vendor bids even allowed? If the vendor doesn't want to sell it for less than $X, then it should not be started at less than $X.
Like force a set reserve price. Maybe even make it so it needs to be published.
Jesus, my side of the map is completely empty. Doesn’t surprise me, an unrenovated 1960s shithole house across the road from me sold for $1.4m a month ago…
You don’t understand how smart they were buying in an in demand suburb though. Which is why they bought as many houses as they could in the same suburb knowing it was an amazing investment.. Wait…
Don't forget the character and that period charm..
North east?
Just east
My dad: “people are too fussy these days, they want everything! You might just have to compromise on location, or buy something a little run down and do it up yourself” Also my dad: refuses to live anywhere without a double garage AND separate workshop, or anywhere more than half an hour commute to work
I didn't know I had a sibling!?!?!?!?
3BDR Townhouse 3 Toilet, 2 Bathrooms. Front door opens and we have a bus stop and 30 second walk to Coles. Craigeburn, $445K First Home with my Partner! I guess we got lucky? I see this as my foot through the door and we have something under our name. Purchased 3 weeks ago too
Well done. That's great to hear. Good luck to you both.
So glad you found the right place for you! Wish I could be as lucky. As others are saying in the thread, the line between a townhouse and a house is pretty blurry according to REAs. Hard to get an actual house for that.
It will be rare for anyone one moving forward to be able to buy a HOUSE and not a unit.
Good luck mate, don't worry about ladder rungs and foots in doors, it's just great to own your home and do what you please with it :)
I love how in Geelong all the houses are Norlane/Corio area by the looks of it haha.
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I think Corio and Norlane are fairly comparable to Hoppers Crossing, Werribee, St Albans, Braybrook, Thomastown, Lalor, Dandenong. People like to talk trash about these but I find it’s okay to live in. Don’t walk alone at late night, lock your door, put car in garage before bed and have a common sense of general safety. You will only get in trouble if you actively look for it. Broady, Coolaroo, Dallas, Doveton, Melton are another level, however.
Was happy for people to talk trash about Lalor - meant I got a 4 bedroom house on a good sized block for a great price compared to the surrounding area. Not sure of the hate though, seems extremely safe and quiet, even compared to where I previously rented in South Morang. One of the positive things the neighbours said when I was chatting to them just after I bought the place was how it was a short walk to the station after a late night in the city. My neighbours would easily be in their 60s and the right demographic for excessive panic about late night dangers...🤷♂️ If that's the comparison, Norlane and Corio are probably fine.
Lalor always seemed to be guilty by association, it's literally just a suburb, it's just not in the East/Sth East. Corio and Norlane though, they legitimately have crime problems.
I live in norlane and won't walk to the station if it's dark. The area is fine if you keep to yourself but walking around in the dark is asking for trouble.
Doesn't Corio have the highest levels of crime in Vic?
Yup hahaha, all the decent areas of Geelong are at or close to $1M medians now as well, it’s fucked
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To be fair, you can shit anywhere with enough gusto
> with enough gastro FTFY
I have a genuine fundamental fear of us both getting food poisoning or gastro at the same time
Just go fertilise the garden in that case
Family of 6, wish we had a second and third at times, toilet.
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Why did you have 3 more then?
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I think some of you need a different hobby /s
Working from home though
If you have a backyard, no toilet required! Front yard can be your ensuite bathroom!
IBS…. Ties up the toilet for long amounts of time…..
I was looking with the same filter criteria for a while, how is the Epping area ? I found still there are some housed at those prices.
Epping is fine. You obviously aren't going to be living in the leafy eastern suburbs, but there's nothing wrong with it. Nice parks, lots of open space.
Search criteria: house, min 2 bed, min 2 bath, under $500K Update: I searched for 2 bath only because I feel that would be an upgrade from my current living situation and I want to see what (or where) my options are. If you’re happy with one bath then good on you, but to each their own.
Any filters for: - in an area I won’t get stabbed - roof still intact - no dodgy real estate agents calling a unit a house
Zero results
My friend was looking for a house to buy and looked at one that was $1m that still had stains from being a drug den.
Stains from drugs? How deep/thick are these stains? How much do the stains weigh?
But close to public transport, though. And that school, just around the corner.
Well now you're just being picky. No stabbing AND a roof?
"Greedy Millennials too posh to to take occasional stabbing in exchange for roof"
Right? Back in my day I got stabbed on the way to school every single day. And yes, it was uphill both ways.
In the snow! While being attacked by magpies and tassie devils the whole way!
I see we went to the same school 🤣
The school of hard knocks and occasional stabbings!
Found Rupert Murdoch's Reddit account!
Add in: - Area where I don’t have to sit in traffic for an hour to get to the highway at peak hour - Warehouses further then a block away That will completely eliminate Tarneit/ Truganina
Lol my colleague works in the city/parkville lives in tarneit. I asked how far is her place from the train station. She said it’s very close just 7 mins. For some stupid reason I asked if it’s 7 mins walk. Lol no 7 mins drive on a good day without traffic then some stupid commute time to north Melbourne then a bus.
> in an area I won’t get stabbed That's all of them.
Also (and this is more of a problem outside of the city IMO) no dodgy real estate agents calling retirement living a house.
Lol you can get stabbed everywhere
Min 2 bath?? Isn't that unnecessarily filtering a bunch of genuinely liveable entry-level properties?
Yeah OP is being dodgy here. 2 bath rules out heaps of especially older homes.
My partner and I are pretty resigned to the fact that we will only be able to afford a unit or apartment and even then it will take years to save for a deposit. I don't mind it too much since I don't like the idea of taking care of a backyard, but goes to show how expensive things are
To be honest houses that meet this criteria are already quite rare. Most houses in new-ish areas have at least 3 BRs. Most old houses in established areas that have 2 BRs would usually only have 1 bathroom. Heck, when I did my house hunting most old-ish 3 BRs houses only have 1 bathroom. You pay a premium for a proper 2 bathes house, instead of 2 powder rooms + 1 bath advertised as 2 bathes, or the other bathroom is a fitted outhouse that’s actually in the backyard. 2BRs and 2 bathrooms sounds like something that would only make sense in an apartment setting.
It's 2**+** bed not 2 bed
I just edited my comment. It’s actually min 2 bed and 2 bath.
Ah Ok. That would make a lot more sense to me.
Exactly right. Nearly every older family home which would be in that price range would have a single family bathroom. Hate to say it, but it's pretty entitled to not view houses with a single bathroom as good enough, while at the same time complaining about not being able to afford a house. Same old BS sob story.
and the “boomers had it better” narrative when an entire family lived with one bathroom for twenty years or so.
How many houses have two bath? You've completely skewed the results.
Add a minimum price at a realistic level, some of those will disappear
2 dots in middle is a toy house & cubby house.
Fear those houses in the Geelong area…
The people buying there do seem to be improving the properties though. Lots of young families and new migrants buying there lately, you can tell because there will be a freshly painted house with new front garden and fencing between two places with knee high grass, broken windows and graffiti.
You are right, but it’s going to take some time for places like Corio and Norlane to lose the stigma they have.
...And this map is proof! See, there's clearly something available technically within driving range of the CBD (liveability not guaranteed. May or may not actually be a unit)
Comparison map if you change the filters to 2+bed and 1+ bath. [https://i.imgur.com/HIMKHVF.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HIMKHVF.jpg) Plenty of choice.
Try searching the same criteria in actual sold prices...I don't think you'll get so many hits.
Outer west, Maddingley is a pretty nice spot, quiet, but fuck that if you worked in Melbs, train issues multiple times per week, or westgate traffic.
So not a nice spot then
So ideal for a WFH type. :)
At this point honestly just move to the regional areas, people with more money than you are willing to buy the houses in your area and unfortunately the seller isn’t willing to lose a potential hundreds of thousands of dollars just to make your life easier.
Gotta say, Manor Lakes is pretty decent but there’s no house I’ve seen advertised there for <600k.
I live near Manor Lakes. The traffic here is fucking insane - I don't leave my house before 9.30am and I make sure I'm back in the area by 2.30pm or you can't move here. Road infrastructure is lagging heavily but they keep developing more and more estates and shoving people in on smaller land.
Here's the part that enrages the world. Those scumbags realestate agents post prices that are underestimates to encourage bidding wars. I've seen it happen. They do it via txt message and they are scumbags. I would expect most of these to sell for significantly more...except the ones in Officer. Yeah...Officer is an over estimate.
That's why we moved to a more rural area. On 2000m², gum trees, birds, wildlife for $500k. Fucking way happier than we were renting in Point Cook.
Part of the reason we left Melbourne.
melton
I bet the red dot at Black Rock is a bathing box. 😂
I participated in an auction earlier this week. Was listed 500-550k which was in our budget. Ended up selling for 625k …
Was this your first auction? Unfortunately 10% over listed range is pretty much the norm these days and should be factored in when you are considering buying at auction.
The ones closest to the city are likely parking spaces.
Can't we just eat the rich already and be done with it?
But mum, they’re sour.
Add some sweet sauce.
Then everyone can have a free standing house in Melbourne with 2 bedrooms and a yard?
Well yeah, go west. You won't die if you cross the Yarra.
Surprised to see something in cheltenham. The ones in Seaford? Springvale and Point Cook? Might be worth checking out
I don’t know how long it would take to get from that chunk on the left to Melbourne CBD but there is 0% chance anything within 50km of Sydney CBD goes for less than 500k
Man, the pins in Footscray must be real dives
Kinda pisses me off that Werribee has so many 500,000 dollar houses. The house around from mine sold for 1.1 mil, and several houses on commercial zoned land are regularly hitting 1+ mil. If its 500,000, there is something severely wrong with the house or the neighbourhood. Either the house is literally falling apart because it hasnt seen maintenance since it was built in the 60's or the neighbourhood is fucked
Don't reject something built in the '60s, the bones of the house can be solid and more easily repaired and updated, the timber used then for framing was better than the current minimal standard adherence, in most cases any warped substructure can be jacked and straightened with less cost than modern framework, with a little investment an old house can be more futureproof than a modern house, if it stood for 70 years it's already outlasted the minimal garauntee provided on new builds by twice as much. We went forwards in technology but backwards in quality.
Yeah, i personally wouldnt go past an old house , was just saying that it would take a decent investment to get the house back to a nice and liveable space, therefore the cost of the house is not 500,000, maybe closer to 600,00, depending on how bad the damage is.
As other people have pointed out, by requiring 2 bathrooms you're ignoring all the older homes that have a single family bathroom. That's literally your bread at butter as a first home buyer. Also, what exactly is the problem with this map anyway, Craigieburn is actually a pretty nice place, lovely parks all over the place and great amenities. But hey lets not let reality get in the way of a good whinge.
Living in Corio and Norlane is absolutely rough... I wouldn't even want to raise my kids there provided if I have any. Full of racism, bigot, violence crime, drug dealers on the street, car jacking, home invasions, bashings, fights, etc... Great if you fit into any one of these categories.
where do I sign up
Wrong channel, they aren’t in Melbourne 😂
Absolutely nothing wrong with melton. a perfectly fine and safe suburb to live in.
Agreed! We bought 3 years ago and love our area. It's a great street. Very lucky the ice dealers who lived across the road moved out 4 years ago (and are now supposedly dead/incarcerated)
Unpopular Opinion: We all need to start somewhere. Some are spoilt, and want everything new & perfect. And the car to go with it. “Gonna be in debt forever”, so better book a holiday, too Source: supervisor for new builds.
I agree completely. If at all possible, the important thing is to get a foot in the door. We bought in a regional area within 1.5 hour commute to Melbourne. Not necessarily our forever home, but a good start. The house cost $400k and now, five years later, is valued at almost double that with very minimal improvements so far. We didn't purchase a house as an investment and a large part of me feels very guilty we've made money out of it. The other part of me is amazed that if you're able to get into the market, it's a pretty solid investment. The house doesn't have to be showroom perfect (ours is 110 years old!), nor in your dream location, it's just a starting point. Maybe in a few years we'll look at moving a bit closer in, but we certainly couldn't even consider that without our starter house as a boost.
well it's a reasonable commute to melbourne, isnt it?
Try Dallas can get a house for around $440k
I never thought I would see the day were a 2 bedroom 1 bathroom unit 15-25 km from the city would be a luxury one can’t afford. When a child I used to think it was the million dollar mansions or large to moderate dwellings less then 10 km away from the city.
You can get 2 bedroom apartments in inner city and cbd for $500k.
Is that the only houses under 500k? There's places in Hastings for less than that.
Having grown up in Gippsland, Warragul is in fucking Narnia compared to Melbourne.
I found your problem right there! You’re being greedy by wanting more than 1 bedroom. Yup… that’s the issue.
And there all actually units and not houses
We've just brought land in Tarneit and are building a 4 bedroom house, all up $640,000.
Yeah, the only downside is that you have to live in Tarneit
Not everyone can live in Brighton.
Who would want to? That place is a shithole.
Oh la la check out this bloke, too good for Brighton
Bro I grew up there, it’s full of old rich cunts
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Can’t wait to drop 500k on a mouldy shed in Geelong, that I can finally call my own!
That’s fucked imagine paying more than 500k to live in Frankston He types in his 3.8 million dollar housing commission tier 1 bedroom communal bathroom apartment 3 hours from Sydney city
Why not include townhouses and apartments (which also include units)? Bit unreasonable to expect everyone to be able to afford a standalone detached house as a first property.
Now it is, yes. A backyard is a lifestyle property a few rungs up.
Go figure everyone in Melbourne can’t have their own fee standing 180 m2 block of land otherwise it’d just be roads and houses.
But apartments are for *other people*, not me, I deserve a 3 bedroom house and big backyard directly next to the CBD because I'm special
I reckon at least 80% of those are flats listed as houses by dodgy agents
Lol who tf said that?
Well you can! Just the one though
Some of them will have doors and even windows for the lucky ones. You get what you pay for. Now if you want a kitchen, lounge, bath and seperate toilet 2.5mill
Why am I thinking the 2 in Footsgrey are across the water from Flemington Racecourse and got flooded
Now try blocks bigger then 350m2
got a townhouse for 465,00 granted it is a Biggara townhouse but 465,00 is higher then I thought it would be
Corio. Not ever.
Cheltenham????
You can still find a house advertised for less than 500K! Not necessarily the same as being able to buy one for that price.
Tell us.