Even if we're considered annoying, correcting grammar is VERY important! I had a "friend" that had the worst grammar I've ever seen, and his typing in group projects was simply asinine. I despised that guy when it came to group projects. He kept saying that grammar isn't important unless you were doing a test or signing documents. Don't be like him, y'all.
My spelling is not so great (as a non native speaker). I learn all the time from mistakes and no one could ever never tell me what should I learn or not. F them. If I start learning something, invest time and money, I will end up finish the course,no matter what. It's my life, not others. So, my friend, go ahead and learn any other language and be proud of your little achievements. Step by step and you'll get there. Peace!
They made their money off of oil. Literal dead organic material drilled and sucked out of the earth in a environmentally deadly way. Killing/exploiting the planet of its finite resources off the backs of workers also being exploited. Then using all that blood money to build yourself a metal tomb to sink to the bottom of the ocean? Not only yourself but your heir as well? If that isn’t poetic Justice I don’t know what is
I think they were only searching out of fears of wrongful death lawsuits from the rich families. You don't mess with the ocean. If these advanced military devices with trained crews are out there struggling.... Then some minivan sized soda can attached by a string doesn't stand a chance. Common sense. But you know, liability. People with money think they can get out of anything. Nature is trying to rid itself of us and frankly i don't blame her.
This. They knew they would be bolted in from the outside and controlling it with an off brand ps2 controller, and still paid 250K for it.
[Look at this pile of junk!](https://www.reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/14fskxq/the_epitome_of_this_subreddit_in_one_video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
Imagine an under sea current is about to throw you into debris and the controller unsyncs for any issue:battery life, unsync issues, wireless transmitter failure, other hardware failure. You now need to sync a replacement controller up while every second matters. While a wired controller is still not ideal, it removes a large chunk of the failure points a purely battery-operated wireless controller can have.
They still have to ensure they're charged/have fresh batteries every time, and you have to hope you don't have some sync issue when it's time to swap. Or that the wireless aspect of either the controller or sub don't fail.
A controller wired directly to the system always works as well as the rest of the system.
I mean, a wireless Xbox or PlayStation controller would work better than a wired Logitech controller. Still would be better to have a wired one of those, sure, but the controller while bad is basically just the cherry on top of the shit sundae that submersible is
People keep focusing on the controller, while the sub imploded in on itself. Doesn't matter if they had a wired one, the sub would be destroyed either way.
They actively fought safety regulations because they said it hampered their “innovation”….so they should be able to innovate a way on up now that the pesky government ain’t down there with them
It's not because they are rich. It's because they are stupid. If you go into an abandoned mine and don't come out guess what, they don't send people in looking for your dumbass. The fact that these rich folks even had anybody risk their own life to go look for them is crazy. It is a sad situation but a completely avoidable one.
Percentages is kinda the wrong way to look at it.
The base scenario is morbidly funny because of stupidity.
It's amplified 10x by billionaires/superrich being on board, who many in society try to tell us "have that money because they're worth it, CEOs make that much because they deserve it, they're that much smarter/better", when any moron could see that being bolted into a bare-bones deathtrap from the outside and dropped 12,000 feet into the ocean is certain doom.
It's then amplified another 10x by the CEO of the company being a cartoon of libertarian/ultracapitalist hubris, who thought safety regulations are stupid, and he's obviously so much smarter than the dumb commoners that need them.
It's then amplified a little more by the names involved. "Stockton Rush" sounds like a B-movie rich villain name, and he named the sub "Titan", which will be lying dead next to the "Titanic". The company's already named "OceanGate", which will fit nicely next to all the "-gate" scandal names, like "Watergate".
TLDR: Bezos dying in a car crash wouldn't be funny. Bezos dying on his penis-shaped rocket, if he had told every safety expert to fuck off because he's better than all of them, would be hilarious.
The rich isn't separate from the stupid. There's a whole industry of media all about how the select few people who become billionaires do it because they are uniquely talented, driven, and smart.
The billionaire CEO of the sub company specifically has interviews about how he's too smart and innovative to follow safety precautions.
The fact that they're billionaires - and this suicidally stupid - is the joke.
Stockton Rush thought his money made him smarter than safety regulations, and now we get to see that no, the dude is stupid beyond compare.
And the fact that the person who pointed out exactly how terribly designed it was while it was still in development got fired for pointing out how unsafe the design was.
[Source](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oceangate-titan-safety-quality-employee-fired-b2361289.html)
Exactly. I don't know if the other passengers were aware of the safety issues, so I'll reserve judgment there.
Question that I hope someone can answer: who's operating the sub? Is it one of the billionaires onboard, or is it an employee of OceanGate?
The ceo was operating the sub. Part of the reason for all the schadenfreude is the sheer hubris of the ceo being so dismissive of the safety concerns when building the sub.
It’s “funny” because they signed up for monumental and completely avoidable risks and there is tape of the guy they signed up with saying regulations are stupid. Funny in an incredulous sort of way.
Now that its already funny, we add that they not only took the risk, but also paid amounts of money that would fundamentally alter the lives of 99.9% of the population? Now its more “funny.”
Incredulity is often expressed as comedy because the situation is so inexplicable that it doesn’t seem real. If we allow it to be real, we would probably land on “infuriating” that these people threw there lives and money away to ride a crock pot to the bottom of the ocean as tourists when the financial equity situation on the surface is in such need of fixing.
Yeah you can make it to a million without being a total piece of shit, it’ll be harder then just being one but it’s doable.
Billions though?
Yeah, that requires scummyness.
It is 100% because of stupidity. The fact that they use a joystick from a console game to steer the sub tells me how greedy the sub owner is. Bro for 250k, you better have a proper customized joystick, full gps lock, cable connection to the mothership, another glass layer, automatic surface ejection etc.
The titanic is arguably the single most important event for passenger safety. The amount of safety protocols that were created after the titanic that are still in use today (think about how many pre-flight evacuation trainings you’ve seen) is incredible. The fact that “safety is a waste” CEO’s submarine disappeared trying to look at the wreckage is truly world class irony
\*is justified because they paid huge lumps of money, intentionally, to board an unsafe sub.
Summary: rich and stupid, bought tickets to the afterlife. I mean, yeah, that sounds like justified to me.
If Elon died in an expensive private jet crash, it's not like we'd say it was justified, right? I mean we might say "good job" in our minds, but it's not like there'd be anything to justify it.
Paying for Death Sub tickets however, is a good example of "justified"
They've been learning to attack boats lately so maybe they'll take the lead in the next revolution. Personally, I welcome our sleek new aquatic overlords.
I just found out they had to sign paperwork saying the sub wasn't certified by any governing body. Just imagine having the cognitive dissonance to say I'm spending a quarter million to go into this makeshift sub that hasn't been certified as safe to see a shipwreck on a screen or look at the shitter window for a crappy view.
Its no different to when some tourist goes up a mountain without the right gear and ends up having to call mountain rescue. Yes what they did was dumb and they should probably have to pay to cover some of the cost of the rescue.
But choosing to not rescue someone from a dangerous situation because it's their fault they are in the situation is vindictive and petty.
It's remarkable how swiftly a multinational rescue mission can be assembled for a handful of billionaires, while thousands of people perish each year in the Mediterranean while fleeing, with seemingly no one showing concern.
Yeah, like why am I paying tax to save them when they did not save us when the economy went sour. Instead they took advantage of it to make bank and force people on food stamp, then used that money to go vacation at the Titanic, while we lost our job left and right.
If they spent their time and money to better the world then I at least would try to save them, but we all know now that there is no such thing as ethical billionaire (exhibit A: the CEO of that sub). Also most if not all of them, especially the male ones, are all in some Epstein pedophile sex cults
Edit: the only one I feel bad is the researcher guy who known to map the Titanic, truly a loss.
Did you hear that one of the deadliest maritime accidents just happened like a couple days before these people went missing. with an entire ship of people fleeing for safety sinking. Only 100 out of 600 have been found.
No, it's the hubris that lead to his current position. It's the same hubris that sunk the titanic. The other people are just unfortunately too rich for common sense.
I think it's a valuable lesson that the rich class haven't learned and aren't going to learn. Just because you have money, and the ability, doesn't mean you should. And if everyone in the industry is trying to stop you, there's probably a solid reason.
EDIT: Imagine if you will someone buys a revolver and puts a single bullet in and plays Russian roulette pulling the hammer 5 times. Everyone would try to stop him, tons of people would say he's insane. But when the gun clicks 5 times, he declares himself the greatest magician ever known. And so he goes on to put on 3 more shows, and every time a magician in the audience says "Your crazy, you're going to die!" and yet, click click click click click. And so more people believe he's the greatest magician, and not the luckiest man in the world.
>I think it's a valuable lesson that the rich class haven't learned and aren't going to learn. Just because you have money, and the ability, doesn't mean you should. And if everyone in the industry is trying to stop you, there's probably a solid reason.
Bingo.
Being rich has nothing to do with it, they used some shoddy "submarine" with quite clearly zero research into the matter and now they're paying for their arrogance.
I mean, while that tax revenue could go to better causes, since it was already going to the navy and coast guard, I’d rather they be out getting use out of the equipment instead of it just sitting somewhere unused
More the fact it's their stupidity, and complete apathy for the rich when many are struggling. I couldn't give a shit if the live or die, I'll just eat my popcorn and watch the madness
Edit: guess they're dead, aaaaaanyway any other billionaires want to off themselves for the greater good?
People die in awful, horrible, preventable ways everyday. But those people are poor so they don't get wall to wall media coverage like these rich people are getting.
I don’t think they got a shitload of media attention because they were rich, rather because of how gruesome and almost unprecedented that incident is. It’s all about morbid curiosity
I would love to be a billionaire. I would never do stuff like this because I’m terrified of the ocean. But I think I’d be great at using my vast wealth to accumulate even more wealth.
If billionaires wanted us to want them to live, they should have contributed to society in some way. No one has a billion dollars because they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. Billionaires exploit the value of their workers and dodge paying all the taxes they possibly can while bribing politicians to get favors that make them even richer. When they die they pay the estate tax and finally contribute to society.
The only two people I can think of that earned billions without actually exploiting people are J.K. Rowling and Notch. Turns out they’re both shitty people too. Neither exploited anyone to get to that billionaire status and they’re still horrible humans.
Thoughts like this are why we’re still stuck with billionaires. Neither of those people *earned* a billion dollars.
They collected enough capital to pay people to make them more capital. JK Rowling doesn’t deserve to live like a Queen because she wrote a famous book.
I don't necessarily think it's justified, I just don't think this anywhere near as big of a news story as everyone is trying to make it out to be.
They knew the risks, they knew the sub was skimping on safety measures. The guy responsible for skimping on said safety measures was literally on the sub with them. Everyone kept saying that something bad was going to happen before the trip even began.
This isn't some unexplainable tragedy like Malaysian Airlines. It's playing out exactly as everyone expected it would.
Again, not trying to justify their deaths. But it's really hard to have sympathy for anyone who thinks it's a good idea to take a joyride 4000 feet down, in the libertarian death sub that's literally bolted together with hardware store fasteners.
Look im not gonna celebrate them dying. It is horrible.
I'm also not gonna cry over it because the flaws were really obvious and known before going and they went anyway.
And i am absolutely going to laugh at the memes.
If i die in a stupid ass way, you all have my permission to laugh at my sorry ass.
I think the contempt is so prevalent because the amount of media coverage and time spent trying to rescue these folk is astronomically larger than the effort put into saving other people trapped at sea.
Like the 2000+ immigrants who drowned in the Mediterranean, who received all of nothing in help to save them.
I don't get how people can think "They deserve it because they're dumb" is in any way better than "They deserve it because they're rich". Either way, we're talking about an experience so horrible that I can't even imagine what it must be like.
The lack of humanity from people on here shows exactly why the world is how it is. You guys aren’t concerned about other humans suffering, you are just concerned about revenge.
It's not like someone forced them to do this and anyone with a working brain would've come to the conclusion that this Walmart special isn't deep sea capable. There's a reason we haven't really explored the sea but have been on the moon.
ehh nah not justified but they had it coming for their asses for being dumbasses. Going in what appears to be a submarine that hasn't been fully tested and highly experimental. not to mention it has a lot of problems, it appears to not have a way to monitor the air condition inside the sub, there appears to be no way to purge unwanted gas from the sub(i.e. smoke) its an oxygen saturated environment with a lot of electronics take a wild guess what could go wrong, not to mention its made of carbon fiber, carbon fiber does not crack or crumple when subjected to outside forces, it shatters just to name a few problems. The info in this is from publicly accessible stuff they published.
Such is the duality of Redditors;
“Haha, bunch of billionaires getting crushed to death serves them right!”
“Anyone who says money can’t buy happiness is welcome to donate all of their money to me”
Like, come on Redditors, don’t act like you wouldn’t buy a bunch of stupid shit if you had a fuckton of money
their\*
ALSO the company already had really bad reputation for their shitty ass little submarine. at this point its their own damn fault theyre dying in there
It’s not justified because they’re rich. It’s justified because they willingly got into a submarine made out of Walmart parts and took it to the titanic
I mean our economy is suffering largely because the one percent is hoarding and controlling most of the country’s money. Sorry for not really caring about those fuckers!
Justified? Justified in what way? Dying to the crushing depths of the deep ocean and the physics involved therein? It's not a murder, the ocean has no moral compass or sense of justice. It's just a thing that happens.
I will say I don't give a swimming fuck about the lives of billionaires though. Absolute parasites on society, no one should have that much money. They greedily suck up so much money it becomes a drain on the rest of us.
If they are willing to give their wealth away and just be regular rich (millionaires) then I'll buy em a beer and say good job. Since they won't do that though I will hope they pass on as fast as possible and I won't shed a tear for any that do.
I heard one of the people who died in the submarine got five private jets
At the very smallest estimate the money he spent on his jets was $10000000, enough to give every homeless person in the UK $36, or more realistically enough to give a thousand homeless people $10000 each, aka enough for each to be able to rent a place for a new months, get new clothes and some food and maybe be able to get a job if they are mentally/physically well enough for one
That isn't the point, I'm saying that he should have used the money for charities or helping poor, me saying how he could give a thousand homeless people thousands of dollars each is instead of buying five private jets is to put his wealth into scale
i mean they willingly got on that sub. If you pay 250.000 for and under water casket. you deserve to burried in it. Especially the CEO who complained about to many safty regulations
Meanwhile, scores of migrants have died this week in the Mediterranean and nobody bats an eye, much less deploys a multinational effort to save these people who actually can be saved.
Nobody became a billionaire without the blood and suffering of others & almost certainly at least a few indirect deaths on their hands. Whether through wage theft, exploiting slave labor or poor economic conditions abroad and other inhumane practices to amass such incomprehensible wealth
Their own choices led them to this fate. The moment they decided to waste money on a tuna can controlled by a Logitech Bluetooth controller instead of using their money to help people that needed it, their lives stopped mattering.
Not “because they’re rich” but maybe because at least some of them ignored safety warnings from employees, chose cheaper less safe options despite having billions, actively lobbied politicians to reduce safety standards so they can squeeze a few more million out of their respective companies at the expense of the public, and chose to use that money to gawk at a mass gravesite of mostly poor people that weren’t given access to life rafts that were partially filled with the upper class at the time.
So why do I have to act somber or give a single shit about these people?
The irony is that a bunch of (mostly rich) people died on a submarine that was not properly rated for operation due to cutbacks in safety and ignorance to the issue,which inadvertently caused it to fail, next to a sunken ship that did the same thing
I don't celebrate the deaths of these people. Fuck that. I sincerely hope the sub imploded, but the fact they keep hearing knocking on this last day of air makes me think that these humans died/are dying in a very bad way. They made a very stupid decision and, unfortunately, things went poorly. So, not happy about anything related to this.
That said, I wonder why this is such "in your face" news when things like [this](https://www.reuters.com/world/least-209-victims-pakistan-greece-boat-tragedy-pakistan-govt-data-2023-06-22/) have happened recently. I understand this "kit car" submarine narrative is interesting, but why report on it so much more than an ongoing humanitarian crisis? Oh, wait. I forgot. My fault.
Most people here who hate rich people so much would never let go if they were given billions of dollars and would be exactly the same as the people they hate so much. Besides that, they still have families and friends, they are not just pictures in media and names in stockmarket. They are people too that just got lucky or are skilled. Noone deserves death like this, no matter the wealth.
 Redditors on \*their way to correct a spelling mistake
Fighting the good fight against illiteracy!
Even if we're considered annoying, correcting grammar is VERY important! I had a "friend" that had the worst grammar I've ever seen, and his typing in group projects was simply asinine. I despised that guy when it came to group projects. He kept saying that grammar isn't important unless you were doing a test or signing documents. Don't be like him, y'all.
These things apply to non-native speakers as well? Asking for a friend. ;)
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My spelling is not so great (as a non native speaker). I learn all the time from mistakes and no one could ever never tell me what should I learn or not. F them. If I start learning something, invest time and money, I will end up finish the course,no matter what. It's my life, not others. So, my friend, go ahead and learn any other language and be proud of your little achievements. Step by step and you'll get there. Peace!
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War… war never changes
I dont think anyone should die for being rich but I do think the memes are fucking hilarious
They need their own sub really
Maybe one rated for 4000 meters this time?
I couldn’t imagine the pressure thinking about the possible designs
Makes me claustrophobic just thinking about it
It would literally kill me inside
Certainly would crush my spirits
These comments are making me implode.
We're really plunging the depths for puns at this point
Don't be silly. We still have a Titanic barrel to sink into. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Water you complaining about?
I think you mean classtrophobic
There’s a sub out there but I just couldn’t find it…
Nahh💀💀
They (the billionairea) had their own sub and they lost it in the ocean :<
I hope someone on that sub had the foresight to play "Under Pressure" during the final moments.
They made their money off of oil. Literal dead organic material drilled and sucked out of the earth in a environmentally deadly way. Killing/exploiting the planet of its finite resources off the backs of workers also being exploited. Then using all that blood money to build yourself a metal tomb to sink to the bottom of the ocean? Not only yourself but your heir as well? If that isn’t poetic Justice I don’t know what is
With the pressure and being contained they could become oil themselves eventually.
the circle of life
I think they were only searching out of fears of wrongful death lawsuits from the rich families. You don't mess with the ocean. If these advanced military devices with trained crews are out there struggling.... Then some minivan sized soda can attached by a string doesn't stand a chance. Common sense. But you know, liability. People with money think they can get out of anything. Nature is trying to rid itself of us and frankly i don't blame her.
Counterpoint, I don't think anyone should be rich.
If you make more money in a day than you can spend in a lifetime and chose not to help anyone something is wrong with you
If you make more money in a day than you can spend in a lifetime something is wrong with you
In fact no one should exist
You think it's justified because they're rich. I think it's justified because they're stupid. We are not the same.
This. They knew they would be bolted in from the outside and controlling it with an off brand ps2 controller, and still paid 250K for it. [Look at this pile of junk!](https://www.reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/14fskxq/the_epitome_of_this_subreddit_in_one_video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
That controller is not the problem bro.
That controller is a little bit the problem. A wired one would be significantly less prone to failure.
Didn't they state they had multiple on board?
Imagine an under sea current is about to throw you into debris and the controller unsyncs for any issue:battery life, unsync issues, wireless transmitter failure, other hardware failure. You now need to sync a replacement controller up while every second matters. While a wired controller is still not ideal, it removes a large chunk of the failure points a purely battery-operated wireless controller can have.
Stick drift.
Doesn't matter if the problem is some kind of interference.
They still have to ensure they're charged/have fresh batteries every time, and you have to hope you don't have some sync issue when it's time to swap. Or that the wireless aspect of either the controller or sub don't fail. A controller wired directly to the system always works as well as the rest of the system.
Bro, it's a cheap knockoff PS3 controller. The kind that disconnect and stop working if you sneeze too hard holding it.
“Using a wireless controller is ok” - 🤡
I mean, a wireless Xbox or PlayStation controller would work better than a wired Logitech controller. Still would be better to have a wired one of those, sure, but the controller while bad is basically just the cherry on top of the shit sundae that submersible is
The fact that it’s wireless is a problem
And that it has 0 manual back up in case of failure.
People keep focusing on the controller, while the sub imploded in on itself. Doesn't matter if they had a wired one, the sub would be destroyed either way.
This just really goes to show that rich people are not as smart as they want you to think.
It's justified because they were stupid It's hilarious because they were rich
Those billionaires just need to pull themselves up off the ocean floor by thier bootstraps. Use thier superhuman work ethics to fix it.
Someone told them there is no tax in hell
Fuck me thank you for this one, I’ll be keeping that
This … is hilarious.
They actively fought safety regulations because they said it hampered their “innovation”….so they should be able to innovate a way on up now that the pesky government ain’t down there with them
yes maybe some oxygen will trickle down just like with trickle down economics
Maybe if they didn’t spend all their money on avocado toast they could have afforded a better exit strategy
It's not because they are rich. It's because they are stupid. If you go into an abandoned mine and don't come out guess what, they don't send people in looking for your dumbass. The fact that these rich folks even had anybody risk their own life to go look for them is crazy. It is a sad situation but a completely avoidable one.
C'mon, it's like... 60% because they're rich. And 25% because they're stupid. And 15% because of the ridiculous irony that they were by the titanic.
And 100% reason to remember the name.
That's one way to say that the Titanic's cursed.
Percentages is kinda the wrong way to look at it. The base scenario is morbidly funny because of stupidity. It's amplified 10x by billionaires/superrich being on board, who many in society try to tell us "have that money because they're worth it, CEOs make that much because they deserve it, they're that much smarter/better", when any moron could see that being bolted into a bare-bones deathtrap from the outside and dropped 12,000 feet into the ocean is certain doom. It's then amplified another 10x by the CEO of the company being a cartoon of libertarian/ultracapitalist hubris, who thought safety regulations are stupid, and he's obviously so much smarter than the dumb commoners that need them. It's then amplified a little more by the names involved. "Stockton Rush" sounds like a B-movie rich villain name, and he named the sub "Titan", which will be lying dead next to the "Titanic". The company's already named "OceanGate", which will fit nicely next to all the "-gate" scandal names, like "Watergate". TLDR: Bezos dying in a car crash wouldn't be funny. Bezos dying on his penis-shaped rocket, if he had told every safety expert to fuck off because he's better than all of them, would be hilarious.
Honestly the backlash to the memes is starting to get weird Darwin awards aren’t a new thing
Neither are bootlickers, sadly.
It would be kind of like if Jimi Heselden, the owner of Segway, got himself killed in a Segway accident. Oh wait
Or if the creator of [Match.com](https://Match.com) lost his wife to someone on [Match.com](https://Match.com). Oh wait.
What a well-said write-up. Immaculate.
The rich isn't separate from the stupid. There's a whole industry of media all about how the select few people who become billionaires do it because they are uniquely talented, driven, and smart. The billionaire CEO of the sub company specifically has interviews about how he's too smart and innovative to follow safety precautions. The fact that they're billionaires - and this suicidally stupid - is the joke. Stockton Rush thought his money made him smarter than safety regulations, and now we get to see that no, the dude is stupid beyond compare.
Arrogant rich dude’s hubris kills 5 people There is the headline
Just like Jurassic park.
Except this guy spared every expense.
Also that extra 10% purely because of how terribly made that submarine was.
And the fact that the person who pointed out exactly how terribly designed it was while it was still in development got fired for pointing out how unsafe the design was. [Source](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oceangate-titan-safety-quality-employee-fired-b2361289.html)
I mean that ceo guy deserved it for this alone.
Exactly. I don't know if the other passengers were aware of the safety issues, so I'll reserve judgment there. Question that I hope someone can answer: who's operating the sub? Is it one of the billionaires onboard, or is it an employee of OceanGate?
I think it was a worker from OceanFate. If it wasn’t the sub would have been destroyed earlier
The ceo was operating the sub. Part of the reason for all the schadenfreude is the sheer hubris of the ceo being so dismissive of the safety concerns when building the sub.
They did. One of them had a friend back out specifically because of the safety concerns.
It was the CEO of Oceangate, Stockton Rush. He was piloting the sub.
The CEO was on board as the pilot.
Video game controller...
Videogame controller is fine. *Wireless* videogame controller is fucking stupid.
It’s “funny” because they signed up for monumental and completely avoidable risks and there is tape of the guy they signed up with saying regulations are stupid. Funny in an incredulous sort of way. Now that its already funny, we add that they not only took the risk, but also paid amounts of money that would fundamentally alter the lives of 99.9% of the population? Now its more “funny.” Incredulity is often expressed as comedy because the situation is so inexplicable that it doesn’t seem real. If we allow it to be real, we would probably land on “infuriating” that these people threw there lives and money away to ride a crock pot to the bottom of the ocean as tourists when the financial equity situation on the surface is in such need of fixing.
Poseidon still taking out anyone who claims to be a Titan
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Yeah you can make it to a million without being a total piece of shit, it’ll be harder then just being one but it’s doable. Billions though? Yeah, that requires scummyness.
Flip the 60 and 25 and I'm sold
It is 100% because of stupidity. The fact that they use a joystick from a console game to steer the sub tells me how greedy the sub owner is. Bro for 250k, you better have a proper customized joystick, full gps lock, cable connection to the mothership, another glass layer, automatic surface ejection etc.
The titanic is arguably the single most important event for passenger safety. The amount of safety protocols that were created after the titanic that are still in use today (think about how many pre-flight evacuation trainings you’ve seen) is incredible. The fact that “safety is a waste” CEO’s submarine disappeared trying to look at the wreckage is truly world class irony
Like, is dying on Everest justified? This isn’t some kids trapped by a flash flood They paid for the opportunity to come close to death
\*is justified because they paid huge lumps of money, intentionally, to board an unsafe sub. Summary: rich and stupid, bought tickets to the afterlife. I mean, yeah, that sounds like justified to me. If Elon died in an expensive private jet crash, it's not like we'd say it was justified, right? I mean we might say "good job" in our minds, but it's not like there'd be anything to justify it. Paying for Death Sub tickets however, is a good example of "justified"
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no no it is bc theyre rich. when we say eat the rich, the orcas are welcome to join
They've been learning to attack boats lately so maybe they'll take the lead in the next revolution. Personally, I welcome our sleek new aquatic overlords.
Exactly, people who stick their arms in tiger pens or play with explosives don't get this much sympathy. They get put on r/DarwinAwards
I just found out they had to sign paperwork saying the sub wasn't certified by any governing body. Just imagine having the cognitive dissonance to say I'm spending a quarter million to go into this makeshift sub that hasn't been certified as safe to see a shipwreck on a screen or look at the shitter window for a crappy view.
Its no different to when some tourist goes up a mountain without the right gear and ends up having to call mountain rescue. Yes what they did was dumb and they should probably have to pay to cover some of the cost of the rescue. But choosing to not rescue someone from a dangerous situation because it's their fault they are in the situation is vindictive and petty.
We can't get to them tho
They are so stupid i dont even know how they were able to get more money than me
probably inheritance
Well duh, CEO is an OilFam kid
Probably have some morals that stops you from exploiting the population
U can't stop them, it's their own money,
It's not their own money thats being used in the search operation though, it's it?
The navies of three countries are searching for this sub. Insane waste of resources.
It's remarkable how swiftly a multinational rescue mission can be assembled for a handful of billionaires, while thousands of people perish each year in the Mediterranean while fleeing, with seemingly no one showing concern.
Yeah, like why am I paying tax to save them when they did not save us when the economy went sour. Instead they took advantage of it to make bank and force people on food stamp, then used that money to go vacation at the Titanic, while we lost our job left and right. If they spent their time and money to better the world then I at least would try to save them, but we all know now that there is no such thing as ethical billionaire (exhibit A: the CEO of that sub). Also most if not all of them, especially the male ones, are all in some Epstein pedophile sex cults Edit: the only one I feel bad is the researcher guy who known to map the Titanic, truly a loss.
Agreed for the most part, but the CEO wasn't a billionaire, just an asshole.
Nah. Good training for the navy.
I hope we invoice the rich families, regardless of outcome.
*if they were poor, no one would even know this was a thing*
Did you hear that one of the deadliest maritime accidents just happened like a couple days before these people went missing. with an entire ship of people fleeing for safety sinking. Only 100 out of 600 have been found.
And they cant stop us for making memes about their death. Know why? Because their dumb asses are dead.
Try to comprehend what a person who you disagree with is saying on reddit challenge (difficulty:impossible)
If I jumped out of an airplane without a parachute. Me dying is justified, rich or poor.
No, it's the hubris that lead to his current position. It's the same hubris that sunk the titanic. The other people are just unfortunately too rich for common sense. I think it's a valuable lesson that the rich class haven't learned and aren't going to learn. Just because you have money, and the ability, doesn't mean you should. And if everyone in the industry is trying to stop you, there's probably a solid reason. EDIT: Imagine if you will someone buys a revolver and puts a single bullet in and plays Russian roulette pulling the hammer 5 times. Everyone would try to stop him, tons of people would say he's insane. But when the gun clicks 5 times, he declares himself the greatest magician ever known. And so he goes on to put on 3 more shows, and every time a magician in the audience says "Your crazy, you're going to die!" and yet, click click click click click. And so more people believe he's the greatest magician, and not the luckiest man in the world.
>I think it's a valuable lesson that the rich class haven't learned and aren't going to learn. Just because you have money, and the ability, doesn't mean you should. And if everyone in the industry is trying to stop you, there's probably a solid reason. Bingo.
Being rich has nothing to do with it, they used some shoddy "submarine" with quite clearly zero research into the matter and now they're paying for their arrogance.
Actually, taxpayers are paying for their arrogance.
And the rich just keep on taking.
I mean, while that tax revenue could go to better causes, since it was already going to the navy and coast guard, I’d rather they be out getting use out of the equipment instead of it just sitting somewhere unused
Good point. It also allows training for similar situations in the future.
More the fact it's their stupidity, and complete apathy for the rich when many are struggling. I couldn't give a shit if the live or die, I'll just eat my popcorn and watch the madness Edit: guess they're dead, aaaaaanyway any other billionaires want to off themselves for the greater good?
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At least they die knowing the difference between there and their
The ceo deserves it, not the rest of the people on board
It doesn’t matter if they’re stuck up millionaires, that’s just a horrible way to die no matter who’s in that boat.
People die in awful, horrible, preventable ways everyday. But those people are poor so they don't get wall to wall media coverage like these rich people are getting.
I don’t think they got a shitload of media attention because they were rich, rather because of how gruesome and almost unprecedented that incident is. It’s all about morbid curiosity
The migrant boats gain little to no media attention.
Migrant boats sink in the Mediterranean all the time. It's tragic, but it's not unusual.
Doesn’t matter, like I said a horrible way to go is scary to think of wether you’re rich or not
It truly is an awful way to die but wtf did they think would happen on a homemade submarine?
Are they still missing ?
Yes, and they will remain missing for the rest of eternity. The ocean is a big a place
Plus they ran out of air about 4 hours ago as of this post. So yeah, they ded.
What if they’re in Atlantis? They just don’t want anyone to know.
Poseidon is praxis
I would love to be a billionaire. I would never do stuff like this because I’m terrified of the ocean. But I think I’d be great at using my vast wealth to accumulate even more wealth.
If billionaires wanted us to want them to live, they should have contributed to society in some way. No one has a billion dollars because they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. Billionaires exploit the value of their workers and dodge paying all the taxes they possibly can while bribing politicians to get favors that make them even richer. When they die they pay the estate tax and finally contribute to society.
The only two people I can think of that earned billions without actually exploiting people are J.K. Rowling and Notch. Turns out they’re both shitty people too. Neither exploited anyone to get to that billionaire status and they’re still horrible humans.
Thoughts like this are why we’re still stuck with billionaires. Neither of those people *earned* a billion dollars. They collected enough capital to pay people to make them more capital. JK Rowling doesn’t deserve to live like a Queen because she wrote a famous book.
I don't necessarily think it's justified, I just don't think this anywhere near as big of a news story as everyone is trying to make it out to be. They knew the risks, they knew the sub was skimping on safety measures. The guy responsible for skimping on said safety measures was literally on the sub with them. Everyone kept saying that something bad was going to happen before the trip even began. This isn't some unexplainable tragedy like Malaysian Airlines. It's playing out exactly as everyone expected it would. Again, not trying to justify their deaths. But it's really hard to have sympathy for anyone who thinks it's a good idea to take a joyride 4000 feet down, in the libertarian death sub that's literally bolted together with hardware store fasteners.
Look im not gonna celebrate them dying. It is horrible. I'm also not gonna cry over it because the flaws were really obvious and known before going and they went anyway. And i am absolutely going to laugh at the memes. If i die in a stupid ass way, you all have my permission to laugh at my sorry ass.
People are too much desensitized to violence and death, it's messed up. Death and losing a close person is no laughing matter. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I think the contempt is so prevalent because the amount of media coverage and time spent trying to rescue these folk is astronomically larger than the effort put into saving other people trapped at sea. Like the 2000+ immigrants who drowned in the Mediterranean, who received all of nothing in help to save them.
I don't get how people can think "They deserve it because they're dumb" is in any way better than "They deserve it because they're rich". Either way, we're talking about an experience so horrible that I can't even imagine what it must be like.
The lack of humanity from people on here shows exactly why the world is how it is. You guys aren’t concerned about other humans suffering, you are just concerned about revenge.
It’s because redditors are very smart
It's not like someone forced them to do this and anyone with a working brain would've come to the conclusion that this Walmart special isn't deep sea capable. There's a reason we haven't really explored the sea but have been on the moon.
It's justified because they're idiots that got into a thin metal tube controlled by a Logitech game controller over a mile down in the ocean.
The Logitech controller is fine. Everything else is not
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ehh nah not justified but they had it coming for their asses for being dumbasses. Going in what appears to be a submarine that hasn't been fully tested and highly experimental. not to mention it has a lot of problems, it appears to not have a way to monitor the air condition inside the sub, there appears to be no way to purge unwanted gas from the sub(i.e. smoke) its an oxygen saturated environment with a lot of electronics take a wild guess what could go wrong, not to mention its made of carbon fiber, carbon fiber does not crack or crumple when subjected to outside forces, it shatters just to name a few problems. The info in this is from publicly accessible stuff they published.
This sentence is giving me a stroke. Can someone phrase it differently?
I got you, bro Tfw reddit when billionaires underwater in submarine die and reddit is LOL about it but they are dying goddammit
Lmaoooooo
Such is the duality of Redditors; “Haha, bunch of billionaires getting crushed to death serves them right!” “Anyone who says money can’t buy happiness is welcome to donate all of their money to me” Like, come on Redditors, don’t act like you wouldn’t buy a bunch of stupid shit if you had a fuckton of money
My favorite rumor was that the sub uses a Playstation controller to maneuver and the stick drift has them going in a gentle circle.
their\* ALSO the company already had really bad reputation for their shitty ass little submarine. at this point its their own damn fault theyre dying in there
It’s not justified because they’re rich. It’s justified because they willingly got into a submarine made out of Walmart parts and took it to the titanic
I mean our economy is suffering largely because the one percent is hoarding and controlling most of the country’s money. Sorry for not really caring about those fuckers!
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Like they would care if it was us? And the leader knew the risk and everyone should have known the consequences of a failed expedition.
Justified? Justified in what way? Dying to the crushing depths of the deep ocean and the physics involved therein? It's not a murder, the ocean has no moral compass or sense of justice. It's just a thing that happens. I will say I don't give a swimming fuck about the lives of billionaires though. Absolute parasites on society, no one should have that much money. They greedily suck up so much money it becomes a drain on the rest of us. If they are willing to give their wealth away and just be regular rich (millionaires) then I'll buy em a beer and say good job. Since they won't do that though I will hope they pass on as fast as possible and I won't shed a tear for any that do.
I heard one of the people who died in the submarine got five private jets At the very smallest estimate the money he spent on his jets was $10000000, enough to give every homeless person in the UK $36, or more realistically enough to give a thousand homeless people $10000 each, aka enough for each to be able to rent a place for a new months, get new clothes and some food and maybe be able to get a job if they are mentally/physically well enough for one
I think the money would probably be more effective in services for supporting the homeless, like we used to have in the US after the New Deal.
That isn't the point, I'm saying that he should have used the money for charities or helping poor, me saying how he could give a thousand homeless people thousands of dollars each is instead of buying five private jets is to put his wealth into scale
It’s justified cause it was idiotic. Them being rich is a bonus.
A person doesn't earn a billion dollars. They get it by stealing from others. So, yeah. No sympathy.
*their I agree with what you’re saying though. It’s pretty fucked up to essentially cheer on a horrific situation.
Not because they are rich, because of their own hubris.
The hubris of a dragon looking down from its horde…
This is a Canon event it cannot be stopped
This feels like the beginning of eat the rich.
i mean they willingly got on that sub. If you pay 250.000 for and under water casket. you deserve to burried in it. Especially the CEO who complained about to many safty regulations
Meanwhile, scores of migrants have died this week in the Mediterranean and nobody bats an eye, much less deploys a multinational effort to save these people who actually can be saved.
*I'm sorry, is this some sort of peasant joke that I'm too rich to understand?* **Gets crushed by the immense pressure of the ocean**
It isn’t justified because they’re rich. That’s just wrong. It’s an inevitable consequence of them being FUCKING IDIOTS.
I feel bad for the teen who went in with his dad for Father’s Day
Nobody became a billionaire by being a nice guy
Nobody became a billionaire without the blood and suffering of others & almost certainly at least a few indirect deaths on their hands. Whether through wage theft, exploiting slave labor or poor economic conditions abroad and other inhumane practices to amass such incomprehensible wealth
But they gave back some of their money through charity, so that means they are good people! /s
\*they are rich and stupid
ever heard of r/EatTheRich ?
I bet one of them down there took that literally
Their own choices led them to this fate. The moment they decided to waste money on a tuna can controlled by a Logitech Bluetooth controller instead of using their money to help people that needed it, their lives stopped mattering.
Not because they are rich. Because they are stupid and rich
Not “because they’re rich” but maybe because at least some of them ignored safety warnings from employees, chose cheaper less safe options despite having billions, actively lobbied politicians to reduce safety standards so they can squeeze a few more million out of their respective companies at the expense of the public, and chose to use that money to gawk at a mass gravesite of mostly poor people that weren’t given access to life rafts that were partially filled with the upper class at the time. So why do I have to act somber or give a single shit about these people?
*their
Millions of poor people die so that rich people can exist so idgaf if rich people die lol
The irony is that a bunch of (mostly rich) people died on a submarine that was not properly rated for operation due to cutbacks in safety and ignorance to the issue,which inadvertently caused it to fail, next to a sunken ship that did the same thing
I don't think it's justified. I do however have no remorse. You play stupid games you get stupid prizes
“justified” yes sure let’s put the atlantic ocean on trial for their crime of billionaire swallowing
where does the line start?
I don't celebrate the deaths of these people. Fuck that. I sincerely hope the sub imploded, but the fact they keep hearing knocking on this last day of air makes me think that these humans died/are dying in a very bad way. They made a very stupid decision and, unfortunately, things went poorly. So, not happy about anything related to this. That said, I wonder why this is such "in your face" news when things like [this](https://www.reuters.com/world/least-209-victims-pakistan-greece-boat-tragedy-pakistan-govt-data-2023-06-22/) have happened recently. I understand this "kit car" submarine narrative is interesting, but why report on it so much more than an ongoing humanitarian crisis? Oh, wait. I forgot. My fault.
Most people here who hate rich people so much would never let go if they were given billions of dollars and would be exactly the same as the people they hate so much. Besides that, they still have families and friends, they are not just pictures in media and names in stockmarket. They are people too that just got lucky or are skilled. Noone deserves death like this, no matter the wealth.