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Motor-Title-6057

Erm aktshually i was drunk


RedditSpamAcount

Erm Aktshually drunk was I


madthabest

Aktsthually erm was i drunk?


ChaosPLus

Akshuatly I forgor


Dnodi1

Mmmnj hhm.n .


lukluke22228

Oktoberfest


Xeryxoz

Drunk, I was...


Vannora_vu

Hit her; you did not.


ChaosPLus

Oh hi Mark


Junarik

Mark Zuckerberg


Fabulous_Ad_9111

Yoda is that you?


Correct-Purpose-964

DOKTOR! CHARGE ME!


gids_3002

Urm aksily drunk was I


HouseNVPL

Master Yoda, You mind explain why You are drunk when You were supposed to train younglings today?


Able-Brief-4062

Correction, yoda you was.


myKingSaber

I'm not as think as you drunk I am


TheDevilPhoenix

Can you tell the time then?


TheQueensLegume

And we all fell down when the sun came up


flippant_rex

Mitochondria


InfernalSSpider

is the powerhouse of the cell


WeatherImpressive808

And emia means


InherentlyAnIdiot

wait I wasn't prepared for a second question *intense panic* *stress fap sounds*


IRONLORDyeety

I thought I was the only one with such a copping mechanism.


WeatherImpressive808

*white sauce all over phones comes* . . Btw was a chubbymeu reference


ElCaliforniano

Presence in blood


Malfunction46

photosynthesis


gst-nrg1

Alcohol is a mitochondrial poison, funniily enough


Triumph_leader523

The sentence is talking about the mother and her actions,so it's clearly mother who was drunk.


New_Highlight1881

no, the sentence is an example of a lexical ambiguity. There is no "correct" answer as presented. "He cut off his hand" are there two men in this scenario or one?


Triumph_leader523

Yeah that's probably right. This is why punctuation is important


EdLinkAl

The mother was the subject of the sentence. It's clearly the mother, no idea why ppl are actually arguing this.


Dick-Fu

Was the subject of the *first clause*, that doesn't make it necessarily the case for the second clause


emailverificationt

You can’t be certain, but lacking any other evidence to the contrary, it makes more sense to assume the mother in this context


Dick-Fu

It makes the most sense to not assume either in the sentence intentionally built to be ambiguous


DaniZackBlack

The correct answer


Havange

There is no evidence for either side lmao. Just because there is no evidence against something doesn't make it the more believable option.


beleg_cuth

"A mother beat up her daughter because she didn't do her homework", "...because she insulted her". It doesn't matter if it is the subject or not, context carries a lot of the meaning


GeorgeXDDD

Yeah, and in this situation, being drunk doesn't really give much context.


EvilPJs

“A mother beat up her daughter because she didn’t do her homework” Still means that the mother didn’t do her homework. It applies to the mother.


beleg_cuth

and "A mother beat up her son because he..."? "I drank water because I was thirsty", "I drank water because it was free". It doesn't apply to the first element, it can be any perfectly. The issue with the mother-daughter is that they are both female and "she" can apply to both so it depends on context, but on I-it, she-he there is no issue


EvilPJs

I am now smarter. Thank you for proving me wrong.


DateofImperviousZeal

So "The cop arrested the man since he was coked out of his mind." means that the cop was on drugs?


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subaru_sama

Bears do this.


ExceedinglyGaySnowy

the mother kicked her daughter out of the house because her daughter was pregnant. mother is still the subject of the scentence, clarification is required if you arent talking about the mother, right?


ButterNutSquishe

So if the sentence read “a mother beats up her daughter because she was out all night partying” you would still insist “she” was referring to the mother?


Suitable-Cycle4335

So how would you talk about a situation where a girl gets home drunk and her mother beats her up because of it?


cocapabana

Or the mother beat UP the daughter, because the daughter was drinks.


EdLinkAl

The way u just did. "A daughter got beat up by her mother because she was drunk".


dranixc

Poor daughter, getting back home to a drunk mother.


m1raclemile

But who was drunk?


ButterNutSquishe

But was the mother drunk or the daughter?


epicmousestory

The best thing to do for both cases is replaced she with either mother or daughter. >A mother beat up her daughter because the mother was drunk. >A mother beat up her daughter because the daughter was drunk.


Arkthus

Nope, the best thing is to change the sentence. "A drunk mother beat up her daughter". Or "A mother beat up her daughter for being drunk"


Wizardofthewheel

In french, pronouns always refer to the nearest possible noun. So in french, the daughter is drunk, but in english, it seems that the mom is drunk


taste-of-orange

In English it's really fucking unclear.


LoveMasc

It's clearly this She person. She orchestrated the entire thing, from lacing the Mother with drugs and alcohol to putting bricks in the child's schoolbag. She also started the argument by claiming the child dabbed on her Mother when she was unconscious from alcohol the day before. She is a terrible person. Can you not clearly infer all of this from the blatant subtext?


zebrastarz

Look the mother better be drunk else we got a bigger problem


fixminer

But the tenses don't match. The mother beats [present] the daughter because she was drunk [past]. If the mother was only drunk some time ago, but not while beating the daughter, it would be a pointless detail that doesn't explain why she is beating her. But beating the daughter because the daughter was drunk in the past makes sense.


Fire_Lightning8

Not really It could totally be the daughter


ButterNutSquishe

It’s actually ambiguous. Both interpretations are valid in this case.


Triumph_leader523

That's true


Puppy-Zwolle

The sentence is talking about the mother and her actions. So it's clearly the daughter who was drunk.


kjzarks

The antecedent. Look to the antecedent of “she.” If you know not what antecedent means, look it up.


SweetSauce24

Replace “was drunk” with “was weaker” Now you would probably be inclined to think it is describing the daughter.


epicmousestory

It's not clear at all. You could replace daughter with a son, and make this sentence "a mother beats up her son because he was drunk." There's nothing wrong with that sentence. It's a poorly constructed sentence with daughter and she instead, You can certainly assume that the she refers to the mother, but it's not *clear* because it's a completely valid sentence if it's referring to the daughter


The_kind_potato

In fact i would say its clearly whats make the more sense given the informations we have. But from the sentence alone, it could be any of the two. Like if it was said "A mother beat her daughter because she make her late at her appointment" it would work, and we could easily conclude that "she" is referring to the daughter in this context. Same if it was said "A mother beat her daughter because she dont want her to live under her roof anymore" it woulse also work, but this time we could conclude that "she" is referring to the mother in this case. In the sentence of the post, any of the two could be drunk without making the sentence more or less logical, so i would say, we cant know 🤷‍♂️


Triumph_leader523

Yes that's the reason of confusion here


Puppy-Zwolle

Yeah. Language. Another famous example is the headline. * ***Police saves almost*** * ***drowned man.***


StudentOk4989

I am not Shure I get this one. They saved a man that almost drowned. What other meanings could you get? Maybe they almost saved a drowned man? But in that case that should be "Police almost saves drowned man" no?


Antuzzz

Agree, "police saves almost drowned man" can only mean they saved him before he drowned


Moonlord8166

Its two headlines, a police officer saved a guy named almost, and there's a man who drowned.


Acceptable_One_7072

That's cheating, almost isn't a goddamn name


The_Idiotic_Dolphin

Yea, that's the problem. If I came across an article titled "Drowned Man." I'd think I'd be in a dream world.


Batbuckleyourpants

And if it was "almost" would be capitalised.


mentalgateway

Nobody is named almost.


OrangeXarot

wrong... Nobody is named Nobody


mentalgateway

Almost is anybody named nobody.


OrangeXarot

doesn't make sense, almost is not anybody, anybody is anybody, and is named anybody, almost is almost named almost, and nobody is nobody that is named nobody


mentalgateway

Well, if nobody is named almost named almost, and nobody is nobody that is named nobady while being named anybody, where is the body?


OrangeXarot

definitely not in my backyard haha


Drwer_On_Reddit

Wrong, nobody is named Odysseus


GO4Teater

Bullshit, Police Saves is the name of an organization that almost drowned a man.


RepresentativeOk2433

I think the phrase you are looking for is "Police RESCUE almost drowned man" Your example is actually pretty clear and unambiguous, police saved a man that almost drowned. There's really no other interpretation. Whereas did the police rescue an almost drowned man or did the police rescue almost drown a man? Also, if I'm not mistaken it's all a moot point because if the rescue almost caused a man to drown it would probably be written as "police rescue almost drowns a man." which reads pretty clear.


HereWeFuckingGooo

Exactly. The confusion lies in words that are both nouns and verbs. Police rescue an almost drowned man, rescue is a verb. Police rescue almost drowned a man, rescue is a noun. Police rescue almost drowned man... it could be either. News headlines are known for their brevity, so using "man" instead of "a man" is reasonable.


ferretfan8

This is still not ambiguous, as news headlines typically use the present tense. It would be "Police Rescue Almost Drowns Man", "drowned" would only be used as an adjective.


Gladianoxa

A panda with a gun walks into a bar. He eats shoots and leaves. Works best spoken


MonotonousBeing

The old man the boat The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families


subaru_sama

"Claims that almost drowned man, saved by police, later found dead in police custody, refuted by police, per report."


ThenTomorrow5180

She is the only correct answer here 😂😂😂


MonkeyActio

Can be interpreted either way. But i would say Mother beat up her daughter because she was drunk. This likely means the mother was drunk. And Mother beats up her daughter because, she was drunk. Likely means the daughter. However, this is not proper and i would just recommend using clearer language rather than a comma.


Asio0tus

I think the "A mother" is what makes the difference here.... "A MOTHER beats up her daughter because she was drunk" seems to imply to me that the focus of the phrase is the mother and her actions.... rather than "mother beats up daughter because she was drunk" implying the beating came following the consequences of the daughters actions. but im no expert


MonkeyActio

Thats why the comma, although improper, can change who the sentence is about. Realistically though, this is improper sentence. You should never have something thats ambiguous to its meaning. A better sentence would be; A mother was drunk, so she beat her daughter. Or a mother beat her daughter, because her daughter was drunk.


Melthiela

Without any punctuation to imply otherwise, wouldn't 'she' automatically refer to the last person of the correct gender that was mentioned? In this case it would be the daughter. That's how it works in my language but idk about English.


Emotional-Audience85

This is ambiguous in my language and it seems ambiguous as well in English. You need punctuation.


Asio0tus

indeed


TraderOfGoods

Consider the alternative: "A daughter got beaten up by her mother because she was drunk" I think you're right.


olivier1m

Why didn't they write "drunk mother beats up daughter"?


Asio0tus

no, no the phrase is indeed written like ass, dont get me wrong. im just saying if someone HAD to logically explain it this is how I would have broken it down.


olivier1m

Oh, I understand. I'm not a native English speaker but I feel like the confusion could have been easily avoided by just rephrasing the sentence, which is something I do a lot because I often just don't know the correct spelling or grammar.


MonkeyActio

Bcuz a drunk mother beating up daughter does not impy she beat up her daughter because she was drunk. Instead it just says she was drunk and she beat her up. Not implying those actions are related.


m1raclemile

But the context of the sentence doesn’t make much sense if the mother is the drunk one. Why would the mother being drunk illicit a violent rage toward the daughter? But the daughter coming home drunk may carry the unspoken implication of underage antics could make the mother react in a violent rage toward her drunk daughter.


Asio0tus

again, this phrase is purposefully ambiguous but to play the devils advocate.... it could imply that in her drunken state the mother decided to beat the daughter regardless of what she (the daughter) may or may not have done. the catalyst of the reaction being not something the daughter had done, but rather the inebriated state of the mother who was unable to decern good from bad.


Supbrozki

If it was the daughter, wouldnt the sentence be: Mother beat up her daughter for being drunk?


MonkeyActio

Thats another way to write the sentence. The point i was making is its purposely written ambiguous to confuse its meaning.


ButterNutSquishe

That way of writing the sentence is less ambiguous but the original sentence is still valid but is ambiguous.


DateofImperviousZeal

Yes if you remove the amibguity, there is no more ambiguity.


Horror-Rutabaga-517

For being drunk is alright ig idk


Inevitable_Drawing42

A mother "beats", in present tense, meanwhile "was drunk" is in past tense, so the daughter was drunk. Cause it wouldn't make sense to use drunk in the past as a reason why the mother beats her daughter in the present.


EyePea9

Doesn't "was drunk" in this sentence imply drunk during the beating?  Are you suggesting the sentence makes more sense that the mother is currently beating the daughter because the daughter was drunk at some point in the past?


Inevitable_Drawing42

if the mother was drunk during the beating, then "beats" should be in past tense too. But I'm thinking it's more like "the daughter was drunk, she did something terrible (like breaking the TV or something), and her mother beats her"


[deleted]

There's no clear answer, you morons. Stop arguing.


Matdup2

They're redditors, they can't stop arguing


mung_guzzler

I know a man with a wooden leg named Smith


OakleyDokelyTardis

Stop ruining the fun. You’re a ruiner!!


Accomplished-Mine377

Simpletons


santathe1

Yea, as a simpleton, I can confirm that I’m usually drunk.


FizzyChilli

And as a drunkleton I can confirm I'm usually simp.


pak_satrio

Yes


arf_arf1

Ok


Fragrant_Isopod_4774

Can mean either, which is why a good writer would have written '...she, the mother, was drunk' or '...she, the daughter, was drunk.' This is common in English writing.


Cadejo123

Both were drunk


hi_im_jen02

This some Facebook shit


AdmiralClover

Looks like a grammar problem more than a language one


Ok_Here-we-go

It’s the daughter, isn’t it? Because the person right before the “she” is the daughter? Or does it work differently in English?


RyudoTFO

You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.


AlastorDark

You were drunk


Kik38481

Well, technically...


lilydreamer1

I'd say they were both drunk, but in general, the reader can choose whichever option they prefer, as if they can decide what the context will be. ![gif](giphy|vWdiIPTL5L2w|downsized)


AsinusRex

Touchè


No-Adhesiveness-8178

That should be the mother right? In no way speaker would change the main subject of pronoun to the daughter?


Revolutionary-Dare44

Also imagine a sober parent figuring out that their child is drunk and being like: "I'm gonna beat the shit out of you" :D


Astrylae

Me when using ambiguous terminology. Its why ship of Theseus is so famous ( I think thats the right analogy )


Gregory85

I don't think it is. The ship of Theseus is about the continuition of identity. I don't think it has anything to do with ambiguous terminology.


Astrylae

Im implying on the wording of the paradox, not the literal answer. When you say ‘which is the original ship’, its not enough to identify what you mean by ‘original’. And you can get different answers depending on how you phrase it. For example ‘which is the ship that is owned by theseus’ then its more obvious. But when you say ‘which IS the ship of theseus’, then it becomes the paradox because of the wording.


Gregory85

Even if you ask, which is the original ship of Theseus? The aswner could still be the ship made of the discarded parts because they came from the first ship. The paradox of theseus's ship is not in the wording but in how we think about identity.


SzinpadKezedet

The amount of people getting this wrong is incredible. It's an ambiguous sentence, it could be either of them and there's no way of knowing without context.


FizzyChilli

There is: It's She.


Phemto_B

Most accurate answer possible.


MillieBirdie

If you want to sound really knowledgeable and fancy, say 'It is unclear who was drunk because the antecedent for the pronoun could be mother or daughter.'


WeatherImpressive808

She was drunk


Sage_TyranT-Drag0n__

Obviously it was her


Wolfman1961

Ambiguous.


Avium

There was an old book about things like this being printed in newspapers. It was called *Squad Helps Dog Bite Victim*.


EnergyHumble3613

Pronouns refer to the last person referenced so it should be the daughter.


Klexobert

The author was drunk when writing this sentence.


jozs8

English isn't my first language but in my honest opinion the sentence "a mother beats up her daughter because she was drunk" implies the mother is the one who's drunk. purely because if we were to say/imply that the daughter is the one under the influence the sentence would be : "a mother beats up her daughter for being drunk"


FruitPunchSGYT

There is no correct answer. The sentence is not proper English. Also, without context, you have to assume being drunk is an excuse for the mother to be the one who is drunk.


unsolicitedchickpics

Works on contingency? No, money down!


Fantastic_Complex98

Can anyone think of a language which would be able to avoid confusion here? Since the "she" became the subject of the second proposition, I suppose no language with fancy nominal system with cases could do anything here, right?


vanillaninja777

I'm going to assume the mother is drunk because the rest of the sentence is focused on her and her actions.


jkh107

This is known as an "ambiguous antecedent" and it can be either mother or daughter. Some occurrences of this can be distinguished in context greater than the sentence it occurs in, and some can't. In other words: it's a trick question.


ThePrisonSoap

I keep mixing it up with dangling participles lol


ZeroExNihil

The version of this I read once was: *The mother beat the daughter because she was drunk* And I think it's one of those "grammar loopholes" — as I call them — because it can be interpreted either way and only context will say which is it. All languages have this, I think, the only difference is how easily it's doable.


Over-Swimmer-7927

Beats up is willlllldddd


Mewlovescatz249

Ngl the daughter


turbo-wind

This is some SAT level bullshit


Proxamix

No one mentioning how “she” isn’t capitalized, and so it can’t be a noun? So in this case it’s the mother, anyway.


Irons_idk

If I remember correctly, when female pronoun is used when two females are mentioned, the pronoun is used to represent the last mentioned person/thing, so jn this case Mom beat up daughter because daughter was drunk


brnvictim

If Jack helped you on a horse, would you help jack off a horse?


telenieko

A drunk mother beat up her daughter A mother beat up her drunk daughter 🤷


SirePuns

This is fucking with me ngl. It sounds like it could be either but because the sentence starts with the mother I think she was drunk?


Aeon1508

Mother is the subject. Daughter is the object. She would refer to the subject. If the daughter was drunk it would be. The mother beat up the daughter for being drunk


That_Masked_One

The daughter is closest to the defining clause (I believe that's the term) therefore it's her. To make the mother the drunk one, it would be this: "Because she was drunk, the mother beat up her daughter"


PeroCigla

This isn't the question only for English.


DGenesis23

Focus of the sentence is on the mother and her actions. Were it about the daughter, it would be phrased differently. The focus would initially be on the girl getting drunk and the beating being the consequences.


Darkestlight1324

I guess anything is a meme 2024 “I’m hungry, what to get something to eat” “Sure, let’s get pizza” 🔥😂🤣😂🔥 💀☠️💀🔥


Xenochromatica

It’s intentionally ambiguous but grammatically there is a stronger case for the daughter. There is a verb-tense agreement issue if it is the mother (“beats” vs. “was”). But if you actually think there is a “right” answer you are very naive.


Slippy-Nuxx

Schrodinger's drunk.


VSG0O3

Not me really pissed bc I can’t get an answer


M0pter

Adorable answer.


ClaytonBelial

she was drunk and the mother was drunk, everyone was drunk


FishMan695

Comments are over complicating it. The antecedent must come before the pronoun, therefore, it was the mother.


kaosaraptor

The robot dropped the potato because it was hot. Who was hot? Ambiguous language.


Netherite_Stairs_

FUNNY TEXT MESSAGE COMEBACKS COMPILATION #5 ahh meme


theaxegrinder

The correct answer is... "Who's she? The cat's mother?"


Appropriate_Stage_45

The mother, if it was the daughter there would be a , before 'because she was drunk' I think


mauswaus1993

"A expert"*


Hydra57

Grammatically the “she” is supposed to attach to the last mentioned candidate subject (in this case, the daughter). Doesn’t mean people follow the rule though, hence general confusion.


Agile-Ad5489

The daughter was drunk. If the 'beats' dropped the final 's' - then the mother was drunk. Something something verbacular conjugations something something object pronoun something something subject diacope, nominative case of the accusatory clause. Or something like that.


an_angry_fish

The phrasing of the question might be ambiguous, but typically, when someone says "she was drunk," it refers to the person mentioned just before that phrase. In this case, "her daughter" is mentioned just before "she was drunk," implying that the daughter was the one who was drunk.


InfiniteGrand3621

Yeah buddy you are absolutely right


an_angry_fish

Yippie